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Invisibility Tech Demo Tomorrow In NYC

Velcroman1 writes "Invisibility cloaks and deflector shields, once a staple of popular science-fiction, are now the real deal, researchers say. But here on Earth, top researchers have been battling too, not over the fate of the empire but over whose tech will someday shield U.S. ships. Fractal Antenna Systems came out swinging Wednesday over a 'perfected' invisibility cloak by researchers at Duke and Imperial College. Company CEO and inventor Nathan Cohen issued a scathingly critical press release throwing very visible zingers — and claiming he invented it first. '[Their tech] makes you more, not less, visible,' Cohen said. The company says a patent-pending deflector shield built off a variant of the technology can divert electromagnetic radiation around an object — and they plan to show it off Friday in New York City, at the Radio Club of America."

86 comments

  1. Ok I'l say it. by 3seas · · Score: 5, Funny

    If it works you won't see it.

    1. Re:Ok I'l say it. by Cryacin · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I don't see a market for this.

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    2. Re:Ok I'l say it. by ackthpt · · Score: 1

      There will be nothing to see here and people will move along.

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    3. Re:Ok I'l say it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its very simuar to my time travel demonstration. I'll be one upping them with the demonstration of the miraculous device...
      Yesterday!

    4. Re:Ok I'l say it. by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Until they bump into it.

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    5. Re:Ok I'l say it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You could also go back in time and correct the typos in your post before you post it!

    6. Re:Ok I'l say it. by icebike · · Score: 3, Funny

      Pictures, or it didn't happen.

      Oh, wait...

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    7. Re:Ok I'l say it. by Nostromo21 · · Score: 1

      There are a lot of pics online of people wearing invisible suits - just Google it dude.

    8. Re:Ok I'l say it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And here is the cloak! http://www.nanowerk.com/news2/newsid=27480.php

  2. Pegasus by Russ1642 · · Score: 2

    Now we can finally catch up with Romulan technology.

    1. Re:Pegasus by ackthpt · · Score: 1

      Now we can finally catch up with Romulan technology.

      Yeah, the ivisibility cloak is awesome, but people will still spot you by the big generator you're pulling along behind you.

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    2. Re:Pegasus by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Also, to quote Family Guy, "It smells like Fred Flintstone's ass in here!"

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    3. Re:Pegasus by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Nope, we will be able to actually fire weapon while clocked.

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    4. Re:Pegasus by a_hanso · · Score: 1

      Or, on the eve of the demo, the lead scientist takes it to phase 2 human trials without authorization and ends up killing the entire team.

  3. Not worth it by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Funny

    I went to their last demo, and I didn't see anything!

  4. Picture of the device in action by darth_MALL · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here is a picture of the device in action:













    As you can see it is remarkably improved over previous versions.

    1. Re:Picture of the device in action by Cryacin · · Score: 1

      I must be seeing things.

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    2. Re:Picture of the device in action by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, I thought the same thing about Obama.

    3. Re:Picture of the device in action by Nostromo21 · · Score: 1

      No, no, guys, one is a whiteout (like the above pic), the other a blackout. But neither is invisible really, just depends on your background :).

  5. I won't believe it till I see it by Lord_of_the_nerf · · Score: 1

    Or don't.

  6. Obligatory by Bomazi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pics or it didn't happen.

    1. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      video or it doesn't work well.

    2. Re:Obligatory by zentigger · · Score: 1

      I didn't happen...yet.

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    3. Re:Obligatory by Nostromo21 · · Score: 1

      If you can include tactile AND olfactory feedback, that'd be grand!

    4. Re:Obligatory by drkim · · Score: 1

      Pics or it didn't happen.

      No pics or it didn't happen.

      FTFY

  7. Wrong location by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This demo is supposed to happen in Philadelphia.

    1. Re:Wrong location by ccanucs · · Score: 1

      How do you know that it didn't ? ;-)

  8. It isn't real until ..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can weave one into my superhero cloak.

    1. Re:It isn't real until ..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can. It's called a fucking Faraday cage.

    2. Re:It isn't real until ..... by Baloroth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can. It's called a fucking Faraday cage.

      Haha, right, because a Faraday cage won't show up like a blinding spotlight on radar or anything. That's like saying a building makes you invisible because you can't see someone inside. Sure, I guess in a sense that's correct, but you can still see the damned building.

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    3. Re:It isn't real until ..... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Captain, I can't find the enemy destroyer anywhere! There's nothing but a big faraday cage moving at approximately the speed of a destroyer in the middle of the ocean!"

      "Damnit! Where could they be?!"

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    4. Re:It isn't real until ..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How this might work:

      If you have a big, relatively unmanouverable platform with lots of power available (e.g. a destroyer) being sought by a small manouverable platform with relatively little power available (e.g. a sea-skimming missile), then your smart strategy is to take advantage of your extra power to drive the problem to the point where the smaller platform literally 'can't compute'. If this technique allows you to do that, it will be worthwhile, even if you won't really be invisible to another platform of equivalent size and power. It's a much better strategy than last-ditch defence using short-ranged missiles and guns.

    5. Re:It isn't real until ..... by Reverand+Dave · · Score: 1

      I lol'd at this Kudos to you sir.

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    6. Re:It isn't real until ..... by Bomazi · · Score: 2

      But if you put a camera behind the building looking away from it and connect it to a large screen in front of the building then someone located in front of the screen won't see the building.

      My understanding is that these devices work similarly. They don't block radiation, but bend it.

    7. Re:It isn't real until ..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh, so that must be what those Borg cubes actually are!

    8. Re:It isn't real until ..... by drkim · · Score: 2

      You can. It's called a fucking Faraday cage.

      No, actually, it's a PMC surface formed out of a dielectric slab.

      Tech details here:
      http://www.nature.com/nmat/journal/vaop/ncurrent/extref/nmat3476-s1.pdf

  9. Inevitably, it had to be said by Crypto+Gnome · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll believe it when I don't see it.

    Move along, move along, nothing to see here.

    Seeing is NOT believing.

    Pay No Attention to The Man behind The Invisibility Cloak.

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    1. Re:Inevitably, it had to be said by sconeu · · Score: 0

      No, it's "*NOT* seeing is believing"

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    2. Re:Inevitably, it had to be said by forkazoo · · Score: 0

      Well, whatever happens, I think we can be confident that we won't see anything all that interesting at t the demo.

    3. Re:Inevitably, it had to be said by mrbester · · Score: 2

      That's the cornerstone of faith.

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  10. Invisibility cloak or ninja? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's hardly a cloak if you're using a ninja as your subject.

    1. Re:Invisibility cloak or ninja? by Nostromo21 · · Score: 1

      Kudos to beating me & being first to mention ninjas dude! ;)

  11. From TFWS by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are a couple of videos on the Fractal Antennas website Fractal Antenna: Whats New. Looks like they have something for microwaves. But when they start talking about how this could be scaled up from microwaves to visible light I start to get a bit skeptical.

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    1. Re:From TFWS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL at the video of the kid hiding in the big paper tube! OMG WHERE DID HE GO??!?

    2. Re:From TFWS by Hentes · · Score: 1

      As far as I understand it these metamaterials are built out of circuits that have to be about 1/10 of the target wavelength. We already have 32nm semiconductors so it shouldn't be that hard. Getting it to work in 3D, on the other hand, isn't going to be easy.

    3. Re:From TFWS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cohen is a jerk who spends most of his time suing his competition - look into what has happened between him and Fractus....

  12. Sorry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'll be in New York that day, but I'm not going to see this.

  13. I was going to get a frosty, but my keys were invi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  14. FYI... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This thread is getting a lot more responses & comments than you can see.

    1. Re:FYI... by Nostromo21 · · Score: 1

      Hey, even if they can pull the wool over everyone's eyes & the emperor does in fact have some clothes...I can't see a market for this. Except maybe invisiporn.

  15. Hardly new technolgy... by KrazyDave · · Score: 1

    Wonder Woman has had her invisible jet for 50 years... the only shame is that her outfit wasn't also invisible.

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    1. Re:Hardly new technolgy... by ackthpt · · Score: 1

      Wonder Woman has had her invisible jet for 50 years... the only shame is that her outfit wasn't also invisible.

      Those amazons, what astounding science and industry they must possess. If they ever reveal their hidden location they'd absolutely clobber Apple in the phone market.

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    2. Re:Hardly new technolgy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can clearly see the location of their amazonian island on apple maps.

    3. Re:Hardly new technolgy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Science, ya. Plus I'll bet she has giant, dark areolae like Marion Cotillard and Merideth Baxter Birney!

  16. Invisibility... by ackthpt · · Score: 0

    I just can't see that.

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  17. That's not so impressive. I'm invisible too. I know this because people always ignore me.

  18. Oxymoron by srussia · · Score: 1

    FTFS:They plan to show it off

    LIke an auction of priceless artifacts.

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  19. I had a demonstration yesterday by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 1

    and sure enough, they /were/ under the couch all the time.

  20. BS, BS, BS... by Paracelcus · · Score: 2

    When you can bend light in vacant 3 dimensional space with EM fields so as to conceal large moving objects you can bet your ass that we'll
    never hear a thing about it
     

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    1. Re:BS, BS, BS... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      of course we will, don't be stupid.

      I mean you are being mind numbingly short sighted and stupid. IQ 70 Stupid.
      What good is such a device if you don't tell people you have it?
      Seriously, the 'We might have a warship off you coast..and maybe we don't.
      maybe there is a platoon of soldiers walking up to your base of operations right now, or..maybe not.

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    2. Re:BS, BS, BS... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, yes. . . This is correct, but doesn't prove the OP wrong. If they had this tech, you wouldn't hear about it. They DON'T have this tech, which is why they WANT people to think they do. If they did, there's NO WAY it would be unclassified/public, so any other country could just copy it.

  21. Yes but... by kellybc · · Score: 2

    Isn't it simpler to just generate an SEP field instead?

  22. Um, sorry guys by fustakrakich · · Score: 1
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  23. Takes a Star Trek approach to detect as well. by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 2

    Changing the resonance frequency of the scanners (radar) will detect it.

    quote:
    “If you move half a degree in angle, it stops working.
    If you move half a percent in bandwidth, it stops working.
    http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/11/14/deflector-shield-and-invisibility-cloak-wars/

    1. Re:Takes a Star Trek approach to detect as well. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Sensitive doppler testing should detect a deviation in wave peaks and valleys due to the additional physical distance traveled.

      In fact, I'll bet that tech already exists and could be readily adapted.

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    2. Re:Takes a Star Trek approach to detect as well. by mrbester · · Score: 2

      Not if they rotate the shield harmonics.

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  24. Warning Ladies! by Rixel · · Score: 1

    It would be a good idea to avoid using the bathrooms....for obvious reasons.

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    1. Re:Warning Ladies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Invisible toilets?

  25. I'm sceptical by ocean_soul · · Score: 1

    I am very skeptical to any such announcements. I would like it better if every one would keep the exited reporting for after the demo. Especially /., which considers itself to be well educated on scientific and technological matters.
    As a physicist (PhD) working on radio science in relation to astrophysics I have seen a lot of people proposing a lot of awesome inventions, that never worked...

  26. Predator Alien, or Predator Drone??? by IonOtter · · Score: 2

    I went through the website, and it is not really for the lay-person of the Internet.

    From what I read and watched, we have not gotten to the point where we can make a human being "invisible" to the point where the visible light spectrum is affected.

    However, with regards to electromagnetic spectrum, such as radar, microwave and other methods of scanning, searching or detection? Wow. The shielded objects simply are not there. Not a "hole in the air" sort of not there, I'm talking "does not exist in that portion of space/time" kind of there.

    This will move the whole radar detection game into obsolescence, and we'll be back to using human observers, or using different spectrum devices to detect the air turbulence from the cloaked object's passing.

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  27. Revoke somebody's science writing license by jfengel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's not "perfect". It has the nifty property that it doesn't reflect anything. But it only works from one angle, and for one frequency (and a microwave frequency at that). It's not even "perfect" at eliminating reflection, just much better than previous ones.

    It's a clever but minor advance blown entirely out of proportion because some jackass attached the word "perfect" to it. Everybody who repeated it needs to have their science writing license revoked.

    1. Re:Revoke somebody's science writing license by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Perfect is correct.
      It perfectly invisible to that frequency and that position. Previously it wasn't perfectly invisible under the parameters.

      You need to understand science and accurate speech before trying to pull peoples science cards.

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    2. Re:Revoke somebody's science writing license by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... it only works from one angle, and for one frequency (and a microwave frequency at that)...

      Does this mean that you'll have to wear your microwave glasses in order not to see the jelly bean they intend to hide from the former employees of MCI?

      Even if it did work perfectly, from all angles and completely suppressed reflections, it would still require an inordinately large power source to hide a single macadamia nut from your pet chimpanzee who could find it by smell alone, anyway.

      And if they scale it up, the only people who will want it are the multimillionaire geeks who cling the fantasy of invisible stalking the cute girls they can't figure out how to talk to.

    3. Re:Revoke somebody's science writing license by jfengel · · Score: 1

      The headline doesn't say "perfect under these parameters". It says "perfect". And we're getting a followup article about a demonstration, so that everybody can go see the "perfect" invisibility cloak, in which nobody outside of a few materials scientists would be interested if it weren't for that misleading application of the word "perfect".

      And I was talking about pulling "science writing cards", not "science" cards. The scientists are doing admirable work here. It's some science writers pushing fluff who are not.

  28. Been there, done that by CapOblivious2010 · · Score: 1

    They already did this demo in Atlanta. It was absolutely amazing, you couldn't see a thing - not the machine, or the scientists, or the wires, or anything! It's like they weren't even there!

  29. Now you see me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would be hilarious if they pull this off by blinding everyone in the room

  30. EMR holes can be seen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they create an EMR shield to make something invisible then I forsee the following issues:
    - how does said thing communicate with something outside that zone or is it "invisibility" and a cone of silence?
    - if they scatter all EMR then you can scan for the "hole" by having a sender and receiver on either side of it as a shadow would effectively be created

    Scattering EMR is not the same as invisibility - that requires the thing to become transparent.

  31. that's nothing by ffflala · · Score: 1

    I've been holding an invisibility demo in the downtown area of a major city for over a week straight now, and nobody's noticed yet. It's going great!

  32. EZ mode..detection by fonitrus · · Score: 1

    every anti stealth detector ship should have an aviary full of seaguls and release them for detection.
    just follow the seagulls and you will find the stealth ship. if you build it with chips they will come :) :)

  33. Nathan Cohen is killing Wikipedia by evilviper · · Score: 2

    Nathan Cohen and Fractal Antenna Systems have been on a crusade to corrupt Wikipedia. They have been paying multiple editors who have been systematically making advertising edits to multiple Wikipedia articles, all coming from IPs that map to the vicinity of Fractal Antenna Systems' headquarters in MA. They remove any reference to competitors (eg. Fractus) and any references that disagree that fractal antennas are the be-all end-all. The bulk of the corruption is on the fractal antenna article, but Nathan Cohen's name has been tossed in to several other pages... Notable people from XYZ, notable graduates from university XYZ, etc,

    See the talk page on Fractal Antennas for all the details:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fractal_antenna#Obvious_bias_in_article

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  34. ewww by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    someone really posted a link from Fox news?

  35. Not that hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of all they physics, can't you just plant a set of TV's on the side of whatever you are trying to hide, with cameras embedded in them. Cameras from one side of whatever display on the tv's on the other side (and vice versa). (Repeat for top/bottom and front/rear). Its not exactly perfect, but you get closely matching colors and motion, and 'seeing it' is a bitch.

  36. Hello Ninjas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With a working invisibility cloak I can see the whole nature of warfare changing dramatically.

    All you need is a small force of "ninjas" using this technology who will assasinate (and keep assasinating) the other sides leaders. All they'd need to do is something like getting into the targets food preparation area to administer a bit of Polonium 210. Job done.

    Of course you'd still need an army just in case the other side want to reenact the Somme etc. but on the whole this should make it a lot safer for us disinterested civilians (one "leader" is pretty much as bad any other with the notable exception of the Idi Amins, Saddam Husseins, Stalins etc. of the world ;)

  37. So... did the demo ever happen? by buanzo · · Score: 1

    So, what happened with this?

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