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LG Seeks Sales Ban of Samsung Galaxy Tablet In Korea
Dupple writes "According to the Dow Jones News Wires, LG has filed an injunction in its home territory of South Korea, seeking to ban the sale of the Galaxy Note 10.1, alleging the panels inside the tablet infringe LG patents. The injunction follows a lawsuit filed by Samsung on 7 December, which alleged that LG infringed seven of Samsung's liquid crystal display patents. LG, which filed the injunction with the Seoul District Court on Wednesday, is aiming to block the sales of the Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet computer."
I think this will be the end of civilization. Lawyers don't produce anything useful, so when production stops, the civilization will collapse.
Patents Drive Free Software as Hurricanes Drive Construction Industry
the year of the patent wars.
this shit is getting old.
Re. patents, we reached as point in which it needs to get worse in order to get better.
Questions raise, answers kill. Raise questions to stay alive.
Will Slashdot now encourage people to boycott LG for suing Samsung, or does LG get a pass for making Android phones?
If someone drew a map of who sues who in the tech industry, what would it look like? Solid color? Blasphemous word?
With all those companies suing and countersuing each other, what we really need is a judge that says "now all of you go sit around the table and settle your patent disputes, and let me know the result when you're done. And until you're finished, none of you is allowed to sell any of your tablets or smart phones in this jurisdiction.
"Patent claimants that do not have products on the market at this moment may join the negotiations, and will anyway be bound to the final agreement of all parties."
That should settle it once and for all. And the rest of the world can go on with their lives. The most likely outcome of those negotiations is an agreement between all those parties to not sue each other over current or future patents any more - it's basically the only option in such a situation.
The net result of all this idiocy in court is that prices will go up, because someone has to pay those legal bills. It would be nice if companies would just stick to innovation and actually putting some security in place that means they don't *have* to sue the crap out of each other.
If someone else's "invention" is not based on espionage, well, maybe that innovation was too obvious to deserve a patent anyway..
The Galaxy Note 10.1 has a Plane-Line Switching (PLS) panel. This panel type was designed by Samsung specifically to not have to pay royalties to LG for their In-Plane Switching (IPS) patents.
These two display technologies have found their place in pretty much any screen with wide viewing areas (nearly all high end smartphones, tablets, and high end computer displays). I'll be interested to see what the outcome of this lawsuit may have on Samsung's display manufacturing business as all their high-end displays have PLS panels. With any luck it'll kill it off and they can start pushing for AMOLED panels in desktop displays.
I think this is different anyway, consider that this claim is apparently about copying a technical solution, not a superficial design like a case shape. I personally think it reads like this is a legitimate patent dispute as there are people from samsung accused of stealing technical specs and giving them to the competition.
End the nonesense! The drug companies sat on their patents paying dividends and doing no research so when the patents ran out, OOOOOOOPS! Nothing to sell! Patents were supposed to promote research but instead they encourage rent seeking. Lawyers and judges created the mess we have now and we can cure it by taking all their power away.
I mean, they love their corporations in general, but for Samsung it's another level of affection.
You might want to look up where LG is based...
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The recent patent lawsuits among the various smartphone companies are both high dollar enough and frequent enough to attract the attention of enough people (that matter) to push for changes hopefully as patent reform. Or if evil prevails then all of the big companies could just get together behind closed doors shake eachothers hands and agree on unilateral raising of prices and claiming its due to patents. Within a few years the price of mobile devices could double (at the same hardware level) for no reason all.
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At least that has been my feelings for a while, until I thought about what they might have done a hundred years ago or so. Back then, I guess they would have jumped on ships, sailed over and fought to the bitter end. The one with the most people standing would then claim the others territory and resources. So why not encourage a bit of reenactment? Get all the patent lawyers in boats, equip them with suitable weapons, canons and so on, and get them to fight it out?
And that is where they are inimical to society.
They really do not produce anything useful. You may disagree, but the fact is the rule of law doesn't require lawyers and indeed the lawyer is mostly now operating against the court not to see justice done but to see the lawyer win.
99% of people are law abiding. THAT is what gives us the overall well regulated society we live in.
The hypothetical ethical lawyer would ensure this, but we don't have many of them and the harm the majority do is far greater than the good the small minority do.
Remember too, most lawyers work in creating contracts and are not working to uphold the laws.
Software companies have copyright, whilst hardware companies don't.
Or are you saying that copyright is worthless? In which case we should drop it, right?
Software source code is the blueprint. Copyright protects that but if you want a patent on it, you must drop the copyright and put the source code in the patent. And whether a competing implementation is infringing would be decided upon the same diferences that bluprint differences are assessed.
But your statement that software would be at a disadvantage to hardware companies if you dropped software patents is either idiocy of the highest order or ignorance of the existence of copyright.
As to where to draw the line on design patents, this had already been working absolutely fine but Apple made a patent claim that was incomplete and the design therefore generic.
Apple's patent said that there were products that were similar but not invalidating prior art BUT DID NOT say *why* these things didn't cover the same patent. Basically, if you couldn't tell that the Samsung product was "derived" from that other "non infringing" prior art or from Apple's product, then the infringement is nonexistent.
Doubling the smart device doesn't help, because every patent holder wants 5% of the sale.
Lawyers (and judges) do what they are supposed to do: they make sure that the law is implemented as written. If politicians make stupid laws, then lawyers implement stupid laws. Do you really want to live in a world where lawyers, who are unaccountable to anybody, actually decide which laws to follow and which to ignore?
I doubt people would much notice a doubling of smart device costs. Prices have come down so dramatically that that would just take us back to the situation of a few years ago.
So you want clear but short laws. That isn't possible, to make things clear legally so laws are not open to interpretation they need to be detailed and takes a lot of text.
Thou shalt not kill. That is easy. No exceptions, no moderation, thou shalt not kill, so if you do, you break the law and must be fully punished. Anything from euthanisia, to drink driver killing to murder spree, the same thing. Simple.
oh, you want degrees of homicide. Sorry, that is extra pages of text.
You want all the laws reduced to a hundred pages? Sharia law is nice and short, why don't you go life in a Sharia country.
On the whole, the larger the law books the more pleasant a place is to live in as shown by migration routes. Nobody wants to live in lawless places. Proof me wrong, EMIGRATE.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Seen those adverts for "Have you had an accident that wasn't your fault?"?
If you have, how can you say what you did?
We've reached the point where no one can do anything without violating someone elses patents. At the multinational corporations this has produced a ridiculous deadlock where no one can sell anything. I propose we (i) dismantle the patent system, (ii) throw out any congressman who stands in our way and (iii) finally turn the USPTO staff and patent laywers into soylnet green.
They feel a lot of affection for "Lucky Goldstar" too.
Hell that's a company name that only a Korean could love.
We know where this all started. We know what company and which figurehead got things moving in this direction. No need to mention that any further.
What we are seeing here is that this mentality cannot be justified because it does not only affect only the parties directly involved in any given case. It affects case law and lots and lots of jurisdictions. Worse, it seems to have put a trend into place which has created a standard of behavior which previously would have been found unacceptable. It is still unacceptable but somehow the courts are unable or unwilling to put a stop to it.
Hell that's a company name that only a Korean could love.
And I read somewhere that "Samsung" translates as "Three Star". Go figure.
"Oh... to eat pizza again..." by erroneus (253617) on Saturday December 22, @05:20PM (#42371769) from http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3335159&cid=42371769
A story on slashdot about a hardware patent? How can this be?
Who ever told you that BS .... is a bad liar.
The gook government has pumped a ton of cash into them to help them crush Sony and the rest of the electronics world. They certainly do love them.
LG licenses most (if not all) of their flat screen technology from Samsung, so are they really trying to ban Samsung based on Samsung's own patents?
Think we are seeing a new level of patent trolling.
... to get a new washer & dryer. Guess what? Samsung blindly copied pretty much everything from LG. Except for the extra cheap plastic, Samsung's brand new models are a clone of LGs top models. While everybody else (including Kenmore modes who are build by LG) had front loaders with significant differences to be different. Samsung's?? Even the detergent dispenser (an item that was significantly different on all other brands) was an almost exact copy to the one in LG washers.
Even the "Forced Drain System", a feature that until now was exclusive to LG washers was not only copied by Samsung, but they even put it in the exact same location as the LG machines.
So yes. Samsung is COPYING from everybody. Even other Korean companies.
...but when Samsung sue somebody (which this LG counter measure is retaliation for) they are not evil? Personally I would just love it if everything but copycat patents/lawsuits disappeared. In otherwords, don't make a blatant rip off of counterfeit where you are really just trying to deceive the consumer, and everything else is fine. (awaits they inevitable down mod).
LG is actually two companies merged between lucky and goldstar around in 80's. And since then they are not L.G. but just LG.
You ask if *Apple* were to sue a competitor it is evil.
Well right there is your problem.
You think it is the "Apple" part that is evil.
Ever considered that is like saying people calling out Hitler for being evil is hypocritical because when *Germany* invades France, it's evil, but if the USA invades France, it isn't.
The difference is in what was done, not who did it.
But you won't see that, will you. You're too busy trying to defend Apple.
Who comes up with the LAWS then?