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Making Robots Mimic the Human Hand
RougeFemme writes "As part of a research project to develop low-cost artificial hands, DARPA has developed a two-hand robot that can almost change a tire. Research has mastered grasping objects with robotic hands; the next objective is to manipulate the objects once grasped. Research also continues on a neural interface, a direct link between a robotic arm and the human brain. The ultimate goal of the research project is to develop prostethics and robotic arms for wider use, by reducing cost and improving dexterity and machine vision."
$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski
* POOR SHOWING TROLLS, & most especially IF that's the "best you've got" - apparently, it is... lol!
Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.
Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?
Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.
If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.
I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.
Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.
Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.
I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.
If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!
You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusiv
Can the robot jerk off?
A corrupt slashdot luser has infiltrated the moderation system to downmod all my posts while impersonating me.
Nearly 180++ times that I know of @ this point for all of March 2013 so far, & others here have told you to stop - take the hint, lunatic (leave slashdot)...
Sorry folks - but whoever the nutjob is that's attempting to impersonate me, & upset the rest of you as well, has SERIOUS mental issues, no questions asked! I must've gotten the better of him + seriously "gotten his goat" in doing so in a technical debate & his "geek angst" @ losing to me has him doing the:
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A.) $10,000 challenges, ala (where the imposter actually TRACKED + LISTED the # of times he's done this no less, & where I get the 180 or so times I noted above) -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3585795&cid=43285307
&/or
B.) Reposting OLD + possibly altered models - (this I haven't checked on as to altering the veracity of the info. being changed) of posts of mine from the past here
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(Albeit massively repeatedly thru all threads on /. this March 2013 nearly in its entirety thusfar).
* Personally, I'm surprised the moderation staff here hasn't just "blocked out" his network range yet honestly!
(They know it's NOT the same as my own as well, especially after THIS post of mine, which they CAN see the IP range I am coming out of to compare with the ac spamming troll doing the above...).
APK
P.S.=> Again/Stressing it: NO guys - it is NOT me doing it, as I wouldn't waste that much time on such trivial b.s. like a kid might...
Plus, I only post where hosts file usage is on topic or appropriate for a solution & certainly NOT IN EVERY POST ON SLASHDOT (like the nutcase trying to "impersonate me" is doing for nearly all of March now, & 180++ times that I know of @ least)... apk
P.S.=> here is CORRECT host file information just to piss off the insane lunatic troll:
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21++ ADVANTAGES OF CUSTOM HOSTS FILES (how/what/when/where/why):
Over AdBlock & DNS Servers ALONE 4 Security, Speed, Reliability, & Anonymity (to an extent vs. DNSBL's + DNS request logs).
1.) HOSTS files are useable for all these purposes because they are present on all Operating Systems that have a BSD based IP stack (even ANDROID) and do adblocking for ANY webbrowser, email program, etc. (any webbound program). A truly "multi-platform" UNIVERSAL solution for added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs + DNSBL's you feel are unjust hosts get you past/around).
2.) Adblock blocks ads? Well, not anymore & certainly not as well by default, apparently, lol - see below:
Adblock Plus To Offer 'Acceptable Ads' Option
http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/12/12/2213233/adblock-plus-to-offer-acceptable-ads-option )
AND, in only browsers & their subprogram families (ala email like Thunderbird for FireFox/Mozilla products (use same gecko & xulrunner engines)), but not all, or, all independent email clients, like Outlook, Outlook Express, OR Window "LIVE" mail (for example(s)) - there's many more like EUDORA & others I've used over time that AdBlock just DOES NOT COVER... period.
Disclaimer: Opera now also has an AdBlock addon (now that Opera has addons above widgets), but I am not certain the same people make it as they do for FF or Chrome etc..
3.) Adblock doesn't protect email programs external to FF (non-mozilla/gecko engine based) family based wares, So AdBlock doesn't protect email programs like Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows "LIVE" mail & others like them (EUDORA etc./et al), Hosts files do. THIS IS GOOD VS. SPAM MAIL or MAILS THA
I would never let that thing near my car, look how it trashes the lug treads.
New signature coming soon.
A nanobot swarm could become any shape you want it to be.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
when it's rusted to the hub.
This was solved almost 40 years ago.
Fuck off DARPA.
Almost change a tire? Incredible! What's next? A medical robot that can almost save a person's life?
In Soviet Russia, dot slashes YOU!
Wor\ld-spanning website. Mr. de and exciting; from the OpenBSDO the reaper BSD's this is consistent
Give them a small unique trait or feature, a camera, a mirror
and lots of competition.
Almost drive a car like autopilot can almost fly on it's own.
we will all need some kind of basic income and health care before the bots take most of the jobs
Our healthcare system will change to become one where all health problems are treated by replacing the faulty biological "part" with a robotic implant, until we all eventually become the robots that replaced us.
But the porn industry is always at the forefront of all stuff tech, so they will more than likely be the first one to have an advanced robot model capable of handjobs.....
and his fake alter-ego as well
Just the thing I need when I almost need a tire changed.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I mean, even I can ALMOST change a tyre.
You should take a lesson from this guy. Short, sweet, and it actually makes sense!
I can almost watch the video. Come on ny times is an mp4 really that hard? 30% of all Internet traffic is on a mobile device.
A fool throws a stone into a well and a thousand sages can not remove it.
"Jazz hands!"
DARPA has had some of those two-handed robots for a few years now, and has researchers working with them. So far, the results have been disappointing. They can pick up a screwdriver, but not use it. Robots manipulating a powered socket wrench in a well-defined environment aren't a big deal; auto assembly lines have had those for years. Putting a key in a lock, slowly, is about the upper limit of that project.
Part of the problem is that simulators for manipulation aren't very good. Willow Garage is funded to take the current version of the Gazebo simulator and make it work for manipulation. But I doubt they'll be able to make it good enough to do manipulation using force feedback. The physics engines they're using are for game physics; they cheat on frictional contacts. You need a really good simulator to debug control software for putting a nut on a bolt by feel.
Howard: CAN YOU PLEASE, just, help me?!
Althea: Alright, alright, hang on, stay calm. I need an orderly with a wheelchair, I got a robot hand grasping a man's penis out here.
Howard: You think you could be a little more discrete?!
Althea: I'm sorry, we don't have a code for a robot hand grasping a man's penis.
"You'll get nothing, and you'll like it!"
The main reason we still don't have all this stuff is because humans try to invent them.
Just copy nature.
We now have a robot that can remove our tires.
What hath we wrought!?
What when this thing escapes the lab and goes feral on city streets?
We puny humans may be able to guard our cars against this menace. But what of the self-driving Googlecars? They will be helpless against its stealth attacks.
We invented the wheel, we should not just give that up to the robots or it'll be Judgement Day all over again.
We could all go to trade school full time and be each other's apprentices.
Rather surprised you didn't suggest that.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
ISTM that changing an offside tyre on a busy motorway is probably more dangerous than defusing a bomb.
I do a lot of actual work these days (as opposed to key-punching) and you might say I am highly in touch with the amazing abilities of the human hand. Sex life aside, the sheer sensitivity and flexibility of the hand is awesome to consider. There's no robot yet that can pick arbitrary parts out of a bin (or, say, out of some gravel) and hold them in one part of its gripper while another part feels for the part's mounting location, then advance the parts into place (rotating them into the proper position as they go) and finally be able to push, twist, etc. in such a broad variety of fashions in order to install it... and then follow that trick up by picking up a tool to finish the job.
We're a long, long way from a good mimic of the human hand. It's not clear that anything in between a good one and what we have now is particularly useful as compared to purpose-made manipulators. Robots aren't that great at navigating varied terrain anyway, so using purpose-built robots isn't a big problem. We have to deliver them, regardless.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Finally - A stranger without having to sit on my arm for 20 minutes!
see: http://www.hizook.com/blog/2009/08/03/high-speed-robot-hand-demonstrates-dexterity-and-skillful-manipulation
I agree the human hand is a marvel, along with hand-eye coordination. But these sorts of technologies are rapid displacing the value of much paid human labor in different areas of the economy. Creating factories generally means re-engineering most tasks so they fit what machines can do. Service industries will also do that more and more (like the US post-office automates, fast-food places automate, hospitals automate, people get household vacuuming robots or buy prepared food, etc..) This means our economic social contract is breaking down where an adult's right to consume was linked to selling his or her labor in the market -- as predicted decades ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triple_Revolution
A basic income is one way to address this, but there are a mix of others.
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
THIS is why he's doing it & proof of it, here -> http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3585927&cid=43295193 when others pointed out Jeremiah Cornelius forgot to submit one of the "first post spams" masquerading as myself as AC, & mistakenly submitted one of the impersonations of myself as his registered 'luser' name here on /. forums.
Pretty pitiful actually, but like every up to no good idiot does? He screwed up & submitted it under his registered 'luser' name here.
* Jeremiah Cornelius: DO YOURSELF, and the rest of us, A GIANT FAVOR MAN: Seek professional psychiatric help!
(Since Jeremiah Cornelius obviously can't get over the fact he made a spelling error on what it is HE ALLEGEDLY DID FOR A LIVING? That's not MY fault... it's HIS!)
APK
P.S.=> I seriously must have dusted JC (in his mind @ least) for his BAD spelling error & it "got his goat"...
I.E.-> Catching what he claimed to do as a job, for YEARS he left "PENETRATION" (correct) spelled as "PENTRATION" (incorrect) on his resume on LinkedIn & I pointed it out as he & his friends trolled me as usual (webmistressrachel, gmhowell, & crew (probably ALL JC no doubt using alterate emails or TOR to do it as a possible - I've caught "them & theirs" doing it before, ala Barbara, not Barbie = TomHudson (same person))).
So THAT is what has gotten his goat in a technical debate & his "geek angst" could only come up with *trying* to "impersonate me" in every news thread on /. for the month of March 2013 so far!
(Just to attempt to 'discredit me' as a spammer here obviously)
Doing so, by posting that "$10,000 challenge" &/or reposts of my old posts on hosts file value to end users into EVERY SINGLE NEWS ARTICLE POSTED on /. ...
It's all I can think of that *might* cause such a mentally troubled 'reaction' like the Jeremiah Cornelius is doing & there's NO QUESTION he's the one doing this spamming of nearly every posted article masquerading as myself...!
... apk
Yes, and we should be planning for that now! Our path out of any technological singularity may have a lot to do with our path into it, and that path includes our politics and socio-economics. Are we going to wait twenty years until most human labor has little value even in most service industries?
http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p14bAe6AzhA
http://pdfernhout.net/beyond-a-jobless-recovery-knol.html
Other thing we can do beyond a basic income include expanding our gift economy, improving democratic participatory planning at all levels of government, and improving tools for local subsistence (like gardening robots and cheap solar panels).
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_credit
"In the United Federation of Planets, Replicators and other advanced technologies provide for virtually all basic material wants and needs equally and sufficiently to all. Every citizen of the Federation has plenty of food of virtually any type they want, clothes, shelter, recreational and luxury items, and has all their basic material needs easily met. A society based around self-improvement and collectively improving the human race instead of cutthroat competition, combined with heavy automation, means labor is essentially free, menial tasks are automated, and goods are made freely available to all citizens due to superabundance. As seen in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episodes featuring Jake and Joseph Sisko, people are apparently not paid in credits for their work."
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
it would impress much more if the movement was done by some sort of muscle contracting mechanism instead of step or dc motors. why no one is developing it?
Amazon has warehouses without lights or people and there exists a $100,000 machine that can make hamburgers (pitched to unemploy parts of McDonalds).
For industry - this technology will work to unemploy more people. FOXCOMs answer to charges of labor abuses is to move to robotic assembly lines. MasterLock used to employ 1000's - and moved production back to the US of A once robots could replace most of thoes workers.
For DARPA - the farther a human is from the killing another human, the "eaiser" war is to wage.
This is changing a wheel; that's removing a few nuts from some studs and doing an orientation for refit. Changing a tyre is something entirely different.
If you are an European citizen, then please sign this.
This is a citizen's initiative to explore basic income guarantee - if it gets 1M+ signatures before January 2014, budget will be allocated to this.