TreeSheets (Cross-Platform Data Organizer) Now Open Source

Aardappel writes "TreeSheets has been available as freeware for Windows / Linux / OS X since 2008, but is now also Open Source (ZLIB license). TreeSheets is a cross between a spreadsheet (you can create grids) and an outliner (you can create grids inside grids) allowing you to create almost any structure to organize your data in."

Comments

I'm Treesheets to the wind

[ozduo]

Must be the grid

Progect

[rwa2]

Looks awesome, but what I really want to know is if there's a good Android alternative to Progect for Palm/Linux/Win32 yet.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/progect/

I've played with Organizer, but it's pretty clunky... I think I'd rather try to run emacs org-mode.

Anyway, I've found nothing that was as simple and intuitive and useful as Progect. Makes me want to drop money on a PalmOS emulator so I can have that and HandyShopper back.

Re:Progect

[Anonymous Coward]

It's open source. Port it yourself, bum.

Re:Progect

[camperdave]

I've just been playing with Treesheet. I don't think it would make for a good tablet app, at least for me. I can picture myself using the keyboard with it moreso than a mouse. I think I'd feel hindered on a tablet, much like I would with entering text using an onscreen keyboard. A note or message here or there is fine, but for anything larger...

Of course I could be wrong, and I look forward to seeing an android version soon.

Phil: Well, what if there is no tomorrow?

[Anonymous Coward]

There wasn't one today.

Screenshots

[Anonymous Coward]

Treat yourself and have a look at their screenshots, if you haven't already. They are rather snarky...

Pen input?

[AmiMoJo]

Whenever I use any kind of note taking app I always wish that there was a really good pen input system. Recently I tried out a Samsung tablet and was really impressed - it recognized by scrappy joined up handwriting and translated my scribbed diagrams into something nice and neat. Unfortunately nothing like that seems to exist for the desktop.

Apologies for being off-topic, but does anyone know of anything like this?

Re:Pen input?

[WillAdams]

Ritepen, since bought by EverNote is quite good. Older versions seem to work in Wine:

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=4444

Re:Pen input?

[EmperorArthur]

As much as I hate to say it, Microsoft One Note is probably the best there is.

I ended up mainly using it as a tabbed graphics program. Since it remembers individual pen strokes, it's possible to copy a circuit diagram, remove the part the professor changed, and then draw the new changes.* Combine that with engineering paper grids, handwriting conversion, drag and drop picture embedding for annotations, and an intuitive navigation system for changing between courses and it's a necessity.

If you're talking Linux, then you're, sadly, out of luck. I haven't found anything that even comes close. One Note doesn't run in wine, and the license file is a pita to fix if something goes wrong in Windows. For all those faults, it's an amazing piece of software, and I can't find anything better. I'm currently trying to get it to work in an XP VM on Kubuntu.

*Note to professors: When you modify a circuit, give your students time to copy it from scratch, instead of immediately going on. I bought a tablet PC just for this reason.

PS: Ehh, who needs mod points.

Re:Pen input?

[AmiMoJo]

Thanks, I will take a look.

Re:Pen input?

[AmiMoJo]

I currently use OneNote too. It's terrible that OneNote is the best available app at the moment, despite sucking in so many ways.

Re:Pen input?

[stephanruby]

Apologies for being off-topic, but does anyone know of anything like this?

Technically, Samsung Note and some of the Windows 8 devices are using the same underlying Wacom digitizer technology, so they both should be just as good.

Wacom is freaking awesome! It can tell the difference between your fingers and the pen. It has pressure sensitivity and can even detect if the pen is just hovering over the glass.

Re:Pen input?

[hb253]

When oh when will someone write an updated version of Lotus Agenda?

Re:Pen input?

[camperdave]

OneNote is the only thing keeping me from ditching windows on my current laptop.

It is also tempting me to get a Windows tablet so that I can use OneNote for handwriting and drawing. Pity it doesn't work in Wine.

Re:Pen input?

[chipschap]

When oh when will someone write an updated version of Lotus Agenda?

Don't some of us wish ... but I still use the original Lotus Agenda (ironically enough with DOSBox on Linux!). See my Agenda site, agenda.bobnewell.net, where I have the program, some add-ons, and complete docs, for what it's worth. Text-only is a big limitation these days, but Agenda was indeed unique.

Re:Pen input?

[hb253]

Cool, I am very familiar with your site! I've used Agenda under XP and Win7 and also under Linux, but it's limited in some ways as you know. Treesheets seems pretty cool, I'll try it out, but I suspect it's still not Agenda-like.

I was feeling guilty

[Anonymous Coward]

This is wonderful news. I was feeling guilty about using this awesome tool, since I try to only use free/open software. But I haven't found anything like it; allowing you to add a whole grid within any grid box means you can keep as much detail as you want within any item (I use it for tasks in a can-ban structure).

Looks very promising

[JanneM]

The site says it's in the Ubuntu repos, but it's not there when I look. Is it submitted and just not propagated yet, or is there a PPA I need to enable?

Gridception

[hendrikboom]

says my son.

Sigh. Linux

[rueger]

Gee whiz, looks good. I WANT IT. But my limit for mucking about trying to make something work in Linux is 60 minutes.

Seriously, I'm using Mint, the bastard son of Ubuntu, so it should be easy.

.... error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 indeed....

Re:Sigh. Linux

[Tailhook]

The Linux binaries are 32 bit. You don't have the 32 bit GTK libraries installed.

Use ldd <executable-name> to figure out what else is needs to be installed or clone the github project and build a 64 bit version. Or just wait till Wouter distributes a 64 bit version. It's day #1 of public exposure for this project and you're expected to deal.

Re:Sigh. Linux

[rueger]

Ah! Never even considered the 32/64 bit question. In my defense, the site just says "Linux (Ubuntu)" so I assumed it would just work.

interesting

[Tom]

It's a pretty interesting new take at things.

Downloaded and installed yesterday and played around with it a little. Quite nifty.

What bugs me is that on OS X, a lot of the keys it uses are assigned elsewhere and thus don't work. I'll have to figure out how to redefine the keyboard shortcuts, and the preferences dialog doesn't work. It's a beta, ok. I'm not complaining, just saying what I noticed.

The other thing is that right now I don't know what to use it for. But that might just be because I'm not a heavy spreadsheet user and if I use Numbers, the (missing in TreeSheets) calculation functions are exactly what I'm using it for.

Re:interesting

[WillAdams]

I was a little disappointed that it's so keyboard-centric --- give it some interesting interface elements like Codea or Autodesk Sketchbook and it could be the replacement for Lotus Improv I've been looking for.

Again, useless, without automatibility.

[Anonymous Coward]

- The file format is not even remotely easily accessible with shell scripts. (No, exporting doesn't suffice. The XML doesn't even contain everything!)
- It doesn’t offer a DBus interface.
- It forces constant mouse-keyboard switching and even completely lacks keyboard support for important things.

Then what the hell is the damn point of even using it??

Each single one of those alone is a show-stopping deal breaker. Only a Wintard or iTard could ever consider this "normal" or acceptable.
Everyone who actually uses his computer, instead of playing with fixed-function appliances that happen to be implemented on a computer, would never put up with that shit. Not even when paid equitable remedy.

Am I the only one

[Jahta]

Am I the only one who initially read this as Three Sheets which is something different entirely?

direct download for ubuntu ?

[Anonymous Coward]

where is it ? I'm using debian, but I can't find the package !

Re:direct download for ubuntu ?

[Aardappel]

The packages currently available for ubuntu are the old 32bit binaries, which you can't see if you're on 64bit. You can either use the 32bit version (you'll also need a 32bit gtk installed) or wait for ubuntu to supply the new version for both.

Slashdot claims another victim

[darkfeline]

Looks like the TreeSheets website is down. The term slashdotted is still relevant, it seems.

So, while I wait for the site to resuscitate, anyone care to enlighten me on how TreeSheets is different from any old spreadsheet program down the street?