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US and Russia Set Up Cyber Cold War Hotline
judgecorp writes "In a move reminiscent of the 1960s Cold War days, Presidents Obama and Putin have set up a hotline between their respective cyber-security authorities, to defuse any possible crises and prevent them from escalating into an online equivalent of the Cuban Missile Crisis. 'We recognise that threats to or in the use of ICTs include political-military and criminal threats, as well as threats of a terrorist nature, and are some of the most serious national and international security challenges we face in the 21st Century,' a joint statement from the presidents read."
... hotline call YOU!
This sig is not paradoxical or ironic.
Don't pick up the phone!
The problem is China/West. China has been cracking the west for over a decade (though I blame W for forcing the gov to be on Windows). Things are heating up now, esp. with Snowden's BS.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Agent 99 jokes to 98 about your penis pump order.
If memory serves, a group of small Russian children presented one of our embassies a gift of a beautiful wooden state seal to hang on the wall. Unbeknown to anyone in the embassy at the time, it contained a small passive bug built within and that allowed the Russians to listen in to priviledged embassy conversations. The seal is now hanging up a the NSA museum in Columbia, Maryland. So the question is, who made the phones for this hotline?
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This is an onion article, right? Right? Please.... please.... please tell me this is an onion article...
yes in the land of free speech, you can say anything. Just dont expect to stay out of prison if you talk about communism.
I think Russia is responsible for network attacks recently. Here the damage caused to a French network hub : Cyber attack
joshua
How convenient, hot and cold running war...
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Russia should nuke D.C. and SAC AF Sites and down all U.S.A. satellites as statement of acceptance of the 'Cyber hot-line.'
Russia IS my ally.
Hello? ... Ah ... I can't hear too well. Do you suppose you could turn the music down just a little? ... Oh-ho, that's much better. ... yeah ... huh ... yes ... Fine, I can hear you now, Vladimir. ... Clear and plain and coming through fine....I'm coming through fine, too, eh? ... Good, then ... well, then, as you say, we're both coming through fine. ... Good. ... Well, it's good that you're fine and ... and I'm fine. ... I agree with you, it's great to be fine. ... a-ha-ha-ha-ha ... Now then, Vladimir, you know how we've always talked about the possibility of something going wrong with the Bomb. ...The *Bomb*, Vladimir.... The *hydrogen* bomb! ... Well now, what happened is ... ah ... one of our base commanders, he had a sort of ... well, he went a little funny in the head ... you know ... just a little ... funny. And, ah ... he went and did a silly thing. ... Well, I'll tell you what he did. He ordered his planes ... to attack your country... Ah... Well, let me finish, Vladimir. ... Let me finish, Vladimir. ... Well listen, how do you think I feel about it?! ...Can you *imagine* how I feel about it, Vladimir? ... Why do you think I'm calling you? Just to say hello? ... *Of course* I like to speak to you! ... *Of course* I like to say hello! ... Not now, but anytime, Vladimir. I'm just calling up to tell you something terrible has happened... It's a *friendly* call. Of course it's a friendly call. ... Listen, if it wasn't friendly ... you probably wouldn't have even got it. ... They will *not* reach their targets for at least another hour. ... I am ... I am positive, Vladimir. ... Listen, I've been all over this with your ambassador. It is not a trick. ... Well, I'll tell you. We'd like to give your air staff a complete run-down on the targets, the flight plans, and the defensive systems of the planes. ... Yes! I mean i-i-i-if we're unable to recall the planes, then ... I'd say that, ah ... well, ah ... we're just gonna have to help you destroy them, Vladimir. ... I know they're our boys. ... All right, well listen now. Who should we call? ...*Who* should we call, Vladimir? The ... wha-whe, the People... you, sorry, you faded away there.... The People's Central Air Defense Headquarters. ... Where is that, Vladimir? ... In Omsk. ... Right. ... Yes. ...Oh, you'll call them first, will you? ... Uh-hu ... Listen, do you happen to have the phone number on you, Vladimir? ... Whe-ah, what? I see, just ask for Omsk information. ...Ah-ah-eh-uhm-hm ... I'm sorry, too, Vladimir. ...I'm very sorry. ... *All right*, you're sorrier than I am, but I am as sorry as well. ... I am as sorry as you are, Vladimir! Don't say that you're more sorry than I am, because I'm capable of being just as sorry as you are. ... So we're both sorry, all right?! ... All right.
This only confirms an article by Bruce Schneir that I just read, he surmises if the U.S has started a secret cyberwar arms race putting all internet infrastructure at perils. http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/18/opinion/schneier-cyberwar-policy/index.html "... advance U.S. national objectives around the world with little or no warning to the adversary or target and with potential effects ranging from subtle to severely damaging" fuckers
Sure is distractionist bootlicker damage-control in here. The short answer is, " The people(outside of fat, lazy, stupid, America) will riot."
So, how's that greedy, corporatist American foreign policy working out in Afghanistan, or Brasil? Not very.
You can't, after all, Mossad the Assad :)
-- Ethanol-fueled
The only way to win is that no one plays it. But as there is a player (i.e. the elephant/donkey on the room that is US), everyone lose. And i don't mean government or citizens of some particular nation, i mean mankind as a whole.
It certainly is no accident that today is the 50th anniversary of the agreement to set up the original Hot Line.
...and your enemies closer.
"Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Let's move on and steal the Java language." - Visual J++ Product Manager
@putin, WTF is up with goddamn @assad?
@obama, you have no proof #WMD.
@putin, no proof, WTF were those #sarin loaded missles?
@obama, perhaps #israel fired them and put blame on #syria.
@putin, you are a pussy.
an online equivalent of the Cuban Missile Crisis
How does that work exactly? Will I have to duck and cover under my desk when I use a web browser? Should I be build a Faraday cage in the back yard and stock it with enough batteries to power my laptop for several weeks?
CIA Head: We Will Spy On Americans Through Electrical Appliances
Global information surveillance grid being constructed; willing Americans embrace gadgets used to spy on them
Steve Watson | Prisonplanet.com | March 16, 2012
http://www.prisonplanet.com/cia-head-we-will-spy-on-americans-through-electrical-appliances.html
"CIA director David Petraeus has said that the rise of new "smart" gadgets means that Americans are effectively bugging their own homes, saving US spy agencies a job when it identifies any "persons of interest".
Speaking at a summit for In-Q-Tel, the CIA's technology investment operation, Petraeus made the comments when discussing new technologies which aim to add processors and web connections to previously 'dumb' home appliances such as fridges, ovens and lighting systems.
Wired reports the details via its Danger Room Blog[1]:
"'Transformational' is an overused word, but I do believe it properly applies to these technologies," Petraeus enthused, "particularly to their effect on clandestine tradecraft."
"Items of interest will be located, identified, monitored, and remotely controlled through technologies such as radio-frequency identification, sensor networks, tiny embedded servers, and energy harvesters - all connected to the next-generation internet using abundant, low-cost, and high-power computing," Petraeus said.
"the latter now going to cloud computing, in many areas greater and greater supercomputing, and, ultimately, heading to quantum computing." the CIA head added.
Petraeus also stated that such devices within the home "change our notions of secrecy".
Petraeus' comments come in the same week that one of the biggest microchip companies in the world, ARM, unveiled new processors that are designed to give practically every household appliance an internet connection[2], in order that they can be remote controlled and operate in tandem with applications.
ARM describes the concept as an "internet of things".
Where will all the information from such devices be sent and analyzed? It can be no coincidence that the NSA is currently building a monolithic heavily fortified $2 billion facility[3] deep in the Utah desert and surrounded by mountains. The facility is set to go fully live in September 2013.
"The Utah data center is the centerpiece of the Global Information Grid, a military project that will handle yottabytes of data, an amount so huge that there is no other data unit after it." reports Gizmodo.
"This center-with every listening post, spy satellite and NSA datacenter connected to it, will make the NSA the most powerful spy agency in the world."
Wired reports[4] that the incoming data is being mined by plugging into telecommunications companies' switches, essentially the same method the NSA infamously uses for warrantless wiretapping of domestic communications[5], as exposed six years ago.
Former intelligence analyst turned best selling author James Bamford, has penned a lengthy piece[6] on the NSA facility and warns "It is, in some measure, the realization of the 'total information awareness' program created during the first term of the Bush administration-an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans' privacy."
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Steve Watson is the London based writer and editor for Alex Jones' Infowars.net[7], and Prisonplanet.com[8]. He has a Masters Degree in International Relations from the School of Politics at The University of Nottingham in England.
(C) 2012 PrisonPlanet.com is a Free Speech Systems, LLC company. All rights reserved.
[1] http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/
[2] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17345934
[3]
FTFA:
Emphasis mine.
WTF?
This hotline reminds me of my first explorations into sex when I was 8 or 9, "Show me yours and I'll show you mine".
In this analogous case, the US and Russia are probably showing each other their user data which the NSA captures with PRISM and the Russian equivalent on the other side. I guess the hotline is so that Obama and Putin can giggle at their respective subservient sheeple.
Of course the reality isn't *exactly* like this. But I bet it's similar in spirit.
Because it's not like the US and Russia are the ones consistently at each others' throats over alleged cyber attacks.
just set up a facebook group?
The Internet (as a whole) could be attacked by those who are being disclosed. This is something that they really dislike, being in the open, and that everybody knows about what they did, are doing and what are they planning. So, it is of not surprise to me that governments are coming together to protect this vital resource. The magic of the Internet is that everybody can have a voice, a permanent one, and acts as a continuum connecting us to a different (and more factual) reality. It is our duty to protect the Internet, it belongs to us, the people.
Are they going to read each other bedtime stories now?
Shhhhh! dont talk about the leak from Dimona!
There was an interesting vid on eavesdropping called "Big Ears", on RT, but it was not pro/anti american.
It was the first time a smaller country has been shown to have tech on par with usa/China. a bunch of fancy huge satellite dishes, and then a black one pointing at Rome!?!
Duqu? It seems they have penetrated the terrestrial-power-grid, and corrupted mosts scada-controllers.
How do we keep phone phreaks from hacking the cyber hotline?
I can see it mainly being used to request information on citizens than aren't allowed to be spied on by their own government. I'm sure Downing Street will be getting involved in this too.
Every time I read about setting up hotlines between governments on various things, I think of this classic episode from Yes, Prime Minister, "The Grand Design."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=diuQiXt5qE4#t=45s
Prime Minister: So in an emergency I can get straight through to the Soviet president?
General: Theoretically, yes.
PM: Theoretically?
General: It's what we tell journalists. Ha Ha Ha. In fact we did once get through to the Kremlin, but only to a switchboard operator.
PM: Couldn't the operator put you through?
General: We never found out. Didn't seem to speak much English.
PM: How often is it tested?
Sir Humphreys: Well they try not to test it too often. It tends to create unnecessary panic at the other end and panic is always a good thing to avoid where nuclear weapons are concerned, don't you think?
On a tour of the Joint Intelligence facilities in the Pentagon many (15) years ago, we got to walk past the room with the actual hotline (it's not in the White House, or even some buried secret Pentagon sub-basement.) It's a closet with a door with a bored-looking officer in there, along with a teletype. It has a phone, but it was connected to the DoD phone system, not Russia.