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Mouse Cloned From Drop of Blood
Ogi_UnixNut writes "Scientists in Japan have succeeded in cloning a mouse from a drop of blood. From the BBC: 'Circulating blood cells collected from the tail of a donor mouse were used to produce the clone, a team at the Riken BioResource Center reports in the journal Biology of Reproduction.' The female mouse managed to live a normal lifespan and could reproduce, according to the researchers."
Hideki!
try to explain that in your pedigree.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Have gnu, will travel.
Why don't you just come out of the fucking closet get a real life and stop bothering us with your inane rantings? You can even get married now!
Rich people cloning pets will be a mild controversy but mostly due to the money wasted. Some ego maniac cloning themselves will make the news. Then some people will clone lost loved ones causing a certain creepy factor news bite. But the cloning that will really make the news is when some company will claim (initially fraudulently) that they have the DNA of a variety of stars so you too can not only have Brad Pitt's baby but that the baby will be Brad Pitt. That is when the creepy factor will completely cross into the public discussion with all the legal, ethical, moral water cooler philosophizing that the news-people and their pundits can then do.
Basically this will bring a 1,000 sci-fi books to life (but in a sad and pathetic kind of way).
I'll start by asking: what do you with the kid if Hitler is cloned? Does Mr. Pitt owe child support to any of his clones? Or does Brad Pitt's father owe child support to the clones?
...we can clone Hitler now?
im pretty sure this is that same jeremiah guy who was spamming that hosts shit a coiuple months back
We destroyed the government
We're destroying time
No more problems on the way
I'm through doctor
We don't need your kind
The other ones
Ugly ones
Stupid boys
Wrong ones
I'm all alone, so are we all
We're all clones
All are one and one are all
All are one and one are all
because we have Buckley's chance of doing it the traditional way.
I got to the chocolate box before you, that's why the hard ones have teeth marks.
I want my clone started NOW. That would be just amazingly awesome to have. Of course, we would keep this clone from ever awakening. We'd need some nice form of stimulating muscle, heart, and lung exercise, etc. But when I develop heart disease or need a kidney or liver - there is my clone, just waiting to give me that perfect match. Heck with those immunosuppresant drugs used to prevent rejection. I won't need them because I will have my clone's tissue. If I lose a leg in an accident - hey clone? I need a leg here. I am accident prone and eat a lot of red meat. Better start two clones for me...
Aeon has heard about Trevor's new method for creating human duplicates.
When you would constantly curse... BLOODY MOUSE!
Cloning smart people or beautiful people or athletic people is NOT the problem. The problem is when they decide to clone stupid people as servants & laborers. when the creation of slave classes of low-intelligence clones becomes economically viable, it will become a commercial, not social activity.
Now, let's figure out how to take our full memories, experiences and ego and let's start making mind transfers! :)
You think they can bring back my old dog, Smokey? I've still got one of his paws in my sock drawer.
He was the best. And I learned about how babies were made from watching Smokey with my family members' shins.
You are welcome on my lawn.
"Normal-looking offspring were obtained from all four strains tested."
Link from article http://www.biolreprod.org/content/early/2013/06/25/biolreprod.113.110098.abstract)
One scary a$$ line, indicates a 100% success rate.
The ramifications of what's implied are numerous and cover every aspect of our future.
Governments can now take a drop of the blood of any high IQ genius and clone them. Expect it.
This is a very interesting development since blood cells themselves contain no DNA (the are anucleate when mature). It must be another cell which contains DNA that was used other than a eurythocyte.
There were some genetic abnormalities that predisposed a certain behavior... Thus you just cloned that too..
Red blood cells do not. White blood cells do.
im pretty sure this is that same jeremiah guy who was spamming that hosts shit a coiuple months back
Oh? It seemed to me that Jeremiah's hosts file stuff was an exasperated response to get that fuckwit APK to tone down his host file silver-bullet bullshit. Perhaps it worked, because I've seen little by way of APK idiocy since that time.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, just curious.
..Mullah or Pope, Preacher or Poet, who was it wrote: "Give any one species too much rope and they'll fuck it up"?
The ramifications of what's implied are numerous and cover every aspect of our future.
Only if your understanding of cloning is based entirely on sci-fi movies and TV shows.
sic transit gloria mundi
Now we just need to clone a keyboard too.
"Normal-looking offspring were obtained from all four strains tested."
Link from article http://www.biolreprod.org/content/early/2013/06/25/biolreprod.113.110098.abstract)
One scary a$$ line, indicates a 100% success rate.
You should re-read the abstract to see what it is really saying.
The end result is that they were able to get normal-looking offspring from all four strains tested. However, there was an excessive number of failures in the process in order to get that process. The important line over-looked indicating what it took to get those end results: "cloned offspring were born at a 2.8% birth rate". If you check table 1 of the full article it shows there were a total of 651 embryos cultured in order to get their end results.
This is very far from a 100% success rate.
The aim of the experiment was to see if a clone could be produced from more commonly available cell types. This was a desirable aim due to the fact that it would be less harmful (and/or painful) to the donor than other methods of harvesting material for cloning (which may result in permanent damage or death to the donor).
The viability rate for this method of cloning is still no greater than any other method of cloning in use. It's simply a more humane/ethical method of cloning, nothing greater.
"Normal-looking offspring were obtained from all four strains tested."
Link from article http://www.biolreprod.org/content/early/2013/06/25/biolreprod.113.110098.abstract)
One scary a$$ line, indicates a 100% success rate.
The ramifications of what's implied are numerous and cover every aspect of our future.
Really? Who, other than a slashdotter, would be excited to be set up with a "normal-looking" date?
Hopefully these guys are the next target. I LOVE their sashimi. Easily my favorite food ever. Eat at least once every week. Too bad according to some projections, they are supposed to go extinct in the next 10 years. Hopefully this tech also helps with the whaling problem as well. I don't like whale meat(and even living in Japan I'm yet to meet a single person who eats whale other than public school lunch) but for some reason Japan loves to kill them.
No, it is not a coincidence that the bulk of ethically questionable experimental work comes out of Asia.
Sigh. What can we do? If we attempt to teach them ethics, we get labelled as arrogant. If we do nothing, we get dragged down a slippery slope with very little to show for it. Indeed, it's not really science when the outcome is entirely predictable. Physicists don't keep testing and re-testing relativity with slightly different experimental setups. So why do biologists keep testing and re-testing what are essentially the same techniques on slightly different creatures?
It's a bit sad, really.
great, now go for the keyboard and make yourself a nice cloned kit
of japanese mice?
"Normal-looking offspring were obtained from all four strains tested."
Link from article http://www.biolreprod.org/content/early/2013/06/25/biolreprod.113.110098.abstract)
One scary a$$ line, indicates a 100% success rate.
You should re-read the abstract to see what it is really saying.
The end result is that they were able to get normal-looking offspring from all four strains tested. However, there was an excessive number of failures in the process in order to get that process. The important line over-looked indicating what it took to get those end results: "cloned offspring were born at a 2.8% birth rate". If you check table 1 of the full article it shows there were a total of 651 embryos cultured in order to get their end results.
This is very far from a 100% success rate.
We have a different view of what constitutes 100%. Yes they started with randomly selected leukocyte nuclei but through the sorting and discarding
those known to give poor results, they ended with four strains which normal-looking offspring were obtained from all four strains tested.
I didn't count the ones discarded, as it's part of the cleansing process.
Assuming it wasn't all the same jackass...
For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...