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Crowdfunded Effort Could Build World's 10th Deepest Diving Submersible

An anonymous reader writes with an optimistic, present-tense summary of a crowdfunding project to explore Earth's deep ocean: "The Ictineu 3 will be the 10th deepest diving submersible in the world when it is launched later this year. Compared to its deep diving peers, including Russia's Mirs, Japan's Shinkai 6500, the U.S.'s Alvin,and Cameron's Deep Sea Challenger submersibles, the Ictineu 3 was developed on a shoestring budget. The management partners are self-taught, without formal engineering education. Instead of massive government grants, the project has been funded by a trickle of small grants, sponsorships, and private donors. Along with Karl Stanley, the Ictineu team are heroes to the DIY submariners of the world."

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  1. Alternative Headlines... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Crowd Funded Submarine Fails To Get Funding

    Crowd Funded Submarine Never Makes It Off Drawing Board

    Crowd Funded Submarine Implodes On First Descent, No Survivors

  2. Re:hi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    simply acting on the net

    so she is a cam whore

  3. Sounds like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a money sink

  4. The problem with deep submersible projects... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    When they get into deep water, telling yourself "no pressure" isn't really helpful at all.

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    Ezekiel 23:20
  5. 10th? by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

    If it hasn't been launched and tested how can they say it 'will be' the 10th deepest diving sub ever?

    1. Re:10th? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simply find a spot in the ocean that's deeper than all but 9 have gone, and let her go. They might have trouble getting it back up with anyone alive inside though, but tie enough rocks to it and it'll go to the bottom.

    2. Re:10th? by Endovior · · Score: 1

      Untrue. It's totally possible for something to break up and be carried off by the currents without reaching the bottom. It takes craftsmanship to make a sub sturdy enough to sink properly.

  6. Big deal by PPH · · Score: 2

    "How deep will it dive?"

    "All the way to the bottom if we don't stop it."

    The real trick is to make it surface again.

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    Have gnu, will travel.
    1. Re:Big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The real trick is to make it surface again.

      Nah, that's fairly easy too if you happen to design a tethered system. The real trick is to keep the stuff inside nice and dry while also not experiencing any major change in pressure compared to that on the surface.

    2. Re:Big deal by Razgorov+Prikazka · · Score: 1

      Yup! If you want a sub that can ONLY go to the bottom and never resurface, just hire a Spanish Engineer. Apparently they have some knowledge on that specific field.

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  7. Re:hi by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    240 hours/month! Gotta have callouses.

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  8. sinophobe much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An anonymous reader writes with an optimistic, present-tense summary of a crowdfunding project to explore Earth's deep ocean: ...Compared to its deep diving peers, including Russia's Mirs, Japan's Shinkai 6500, the U.S.'s Alvin,and Cameron's Deep Sea Challenger submersibles...

    There's a rumor a certain Chinese submarine is the current class world depth record holder.

    Not trying to out the submitter-editorial staff, but you're not making it difficult to gleam your politics when you leave out the current world record holder.

    1. Re:sinophobe much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      and how exactly did it take the "world record" away from the Trieste and Cameron's subs? Does it somehow include a time machine or burrowing device?
      how do you "beat" a team who made it to the deepest possible spot in the ocean 50 years ago?

    2. Re:sinophobe much? by 2fuf · · Score: 1

      I don't get the beef you have with them not mentioning Jiaolong.
      Trieste and Deepsea Challenger went 3 km and 4 km deeper, that's over 42% and 57% more than Jiaolong's deepest manned dive.
      The only reason they call it a record it because it can do manned research deeper than those two, not because it actually goes deeper.

      You don't need ulterior political motives to consider Jiaolong in a different class. It's apples and oranges.

    3. Re:sinophobe much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry about the late reply to my rhetorical self amusement monologue. I had not expected any response, but lo and behold two illiterate nerds with decided lack of reading comprehension skills surfaced from mom's basements.

      If you actually read and comprehend the wikipedia entry, Trieste and Cameron had no horizontal mobility.
      The remaining vehicles are in a different CLASS, with horizontal mobility.
      Which is where the Chinese sub currently holds the CLASS world record for depth capability.

      I don't have a beef with sinophobes.
      Just musing out a bit too loud that rattling off a rather restricted list of competitive vehicles but glaringly omitting the world's foremost offering might have exposed something the submitter might not have been too proud of (perhaps that's why the original submit was from an "anonymous reader").

      Hey, more musing for you guys:
      I find Cameron's claimed decent somewhat suspect.
      I mean who plows a few million into a submarine, and then use it all of ONCE?
      I have a beef with Hollywood types with ulterior motives claiming non-repeatable escapades.

  9. Sounds like a redneck project. by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 1

    ...without formal engineering education...

    What could possibly go wrong?

    1. Re:Sounds like a redneck project. by AlphaFreak · · Score: 1

      That (no engineering background) is not true. From TFA:

      "All the design work, the calculations and engineering systems have been done entirely in Catalonia, in collaboration with engineering companies that have shown a great capacity for innovation, research, and the ability to meet new challenges".

      Two of the four "leaders" have engineering background. One of them has experience in marine design. Engineering companies and students have cooperated in the project.

  10. Real engineers to design it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope they have some real engineers designing the thing. Materials behave very differently when under thousands of pounds per square inch pressure - often in counter-intuitive ways.

  11. Bold claim by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 1

    From what I understand, the submersible hasn't been under water in any significant depth. Already claiming it will be the 10th deepest diving (known) submersible if you don't have the 9th and/or the 11th or something similar already on your resume, is rather bold. For all we know, they might have goofed up and will not reach over 1/3 of their estimated depth due to some oversight. I wish them the best of luck, but design specs are hard to meet when a tiny mistake will turn your whole project into a crumpled ball of matter, filled with water in less than a second.

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    I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
    1. Re:Bold claim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All the more reason to build hype now, so if your dire prediction comes true they already are in the public eye. Then, they can talk about coming back stronger as they ask for more funding.

  12. MIR submarines were made in Finland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those "Russian" Mir submarines were actually built in Finland, at Rauma-Repola’s Lokomo workshop in Tampere.
    Actually the delivery was entangled in Cold War politics. Initially, USA did not think that Finland would not have the skill to complete this kind of design and delivery project, but after the initial delivery of two subs, pressure was applied by the CIA and the Pentagon, further production of the MIR had to cease while Cold War nearing its end in the 1980s.

    1. Re:MIR submarines were made in Finland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You Finns sure have do an inferiority complex. Always so desperate to prove yourself. Why? Is it the long dark winters? The clandestine vodka? The decline of Nokia?

    2. Re: MIR submarines were made in Finland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not an inferior complex. They just want to make sure you understand they will never forget this kind of shit which CIA did.

      And now, with Nokia being destroyed by the same people... tsk, tsk. Finns would like to be on the US side but those guys just spit on them with these antics, thinking the whole nation is some kind of retard cousin from the countryside.

  13. They are still missing the main point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We can send very good cameras down there, and see anything we want to see. Sending people down there -- we have learned -- is horribly more expensive as well as dangerous. Same goes true for Manned Space Flight. but the people continue to think it is very cool. Walking on the moon was a marvelous feat, politically and in engineering. They were lucky.
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