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Disney Engineers Develop Touch Screens That Mimic Tactile Sensations

Lucas123 writes "Engineers at Disney Research in Pittsburgh have developed an algorithm that creates the illusion of a 3D surface on touch screens. Using electrical impulses, the touch screen technology offers the sensation of ridges, edges, protrusions and bumps and any combination of those textures. While Disney is not alone in developing tactile response touchscreens, its researchers said the traditional approach has been to use a library of 'canned effects,' that are played back when someone touches a screen. Disney's algorithm doesn't just playback one or two responses, but it offers a set of controls that make it possible to tune tactile effects to a specific visual artifact on the fly. 'Our algorithm is concise, light and easily applicable on static images and video streams,' the researchers stated." This summer Disney unveiled AIREAL, a system designed to give tactile sensations to people using motion control devices.

53 comments

  1. BlackBerry tried this already by isdnip · · Score: 1

    They did a touch-screen phone that vibrated when you crossed between virtual keys, and required harder pressure to register than just touching. It sounded like a good idea, but it was a flop in practice. Touchie-feelie phones are bad enough. Touchie-feelie fluffy pix? Eeewww.

    1. Re:BlackBerry tried this already by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      What makes you think this is for phones...?

    2. Re:BlackBerry tried this already by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      But think of the porn!

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    3. Re:BlackBerry tried this already by fatphil · · Score: 1

      This is not vibration, I presume, it actually causes *drag* on your finger. Something to do with coulomb's something, IIRC - saw a demo from a local company a while back, it's not unique to Disney certainly.

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  2. Engineers by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    Disney calls them "imagineers". These guys were making androids decades ago.

    1. Re:Engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I went to Disneyland recently* (within the last couple months), and on the Star Tours Ride, they have an android that actually responds to people moving near it with gestures and words...and if you get too close to it and stare, the bot says, literally, "*BLEEP you, buddy!" no fucking joke.

      After having not been there for fifteen years, man, it sucked, even though both of us were high as kites from eating the pot-chocolate I had made us the night before. It's like when you get embarrased watching a stupid part of a movie, or during that part in Pink Floyds' Sheep with that queer synthesizer that goes, "Weeeeeooooo." Piped out of speakers everywhere is a banal, insipid "Doot-doot-doot" that even the Teletubbies would find cloying. We had the most fun at autopia, because the driver of the gas-powered car had some autonomy to bash the car back and forth wildly against the barrier with an invitation to sue the place for whiplash. Do you all know why I was a fucking idiot? I had taken a vagina for her birthday, but I was a fucking idiot because I got us tickets to Disneyland rather than Disneyland's California Adventure! What a homo I am!

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    2. Re:Engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I went to Disneyland recently* (within the last couple months), and on the Star Tours Ride, they have an android that actually responds to people moving near it with gestures and words...and if you get too close to it and stare, the bot says, literally, "*BLEEP you, buddy!" no fucking joke.

      After having not been there for fifteen years, man, it sucked, even though both of us were high as kites from eating the pot-chocolate I had made us the night before. It's like when you get embarrased watching a stupid part of a movie, or during that part in Pink Floyds' Sheep with that queer synthesizer that goes, "Weeeeeooooo." Piped out of speakers everywhere is a banal, insipid "Doot-doot-doot" that even the Teletubbies would find cloying. We had the most fun at autopia, because the driver of the gas-powered car had some autonomy to bash the car back and forth wildly against the barrier with an invitation to sue the place for whiplash. Do you all know why I was a fucking idiot? I had taken a vagina for her birthday, but I was a fucking idiot because I got us tickets to Disneyland rather than Disneyland's California Adventure! What a homo I am!

      -- Ethanol-fueled

      Sounds like you may have eaten some pot-chocolate tonight

    3. Re:Engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These people are not really the Imagineers. Imagineers focus on the theme park stuff, and they're not all engineers, but include architects, graphic designers, illustrators, lighting designers, and many many other disciplines. Disney Research sounds like a bunch of postdocs doing research for the sake of academic advancement. That part of CMU's campus has a lot of big companies, like Intel and Google and the US Military, doing a lot of what sounds like really interesting stuff, but you'd never know it... its a bunch of superstar academics doing really esoteric research.

    4. Re:Engineers by GeorgeDealba · · Score: 1

      I remember the term back then and wanted to work in Disney as a kid.

    5. Re:Engineers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you get too close to it and stare, the bot says, literally, "*BLEEP you, buddy!" no fucking joke.

      Bullshit, I worked at Disney World and they would never do that. One guy I know was dressed as Pluto, they fired him for acting like he was pissing on a fire hydrant. Also, few know this, but things there that look real are usually fake, and things that look fake are usually real. They had a bunch of their famous shaped bushes die, and replaced them with plastic ones. The plastic ones looked real, the real ones were too perfect.

      Have you considered that what you saw might not have actually been an android, but a person wearing a costume?

  3. Was it the same technology? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are we really comparing large displays to cell displays?

    "Don't try [great visual effects movie], it was shit on my iPhone..."

  4. Bendable screens with tactile feedback? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Eventually the two technologies will combine into something. Toss in the magic of a fleshlight and why not this?

    Does this remind anyone else of Futurama? Blank sexbots. Download any likeness. (Lucy Liu beware!)

    A whole black market of illegal likenesses. Just think, fresh goat ass for you.

    1. Re:Bendable screens with tactile feedback? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      virtual blowjob!

  5. Cars need this by Causemos · · Score: 1

    Touch screen systems in cars need something like this. Then they'll need a system to determine when you stop feeling for a button and actually press it.

    1. Re:Cars need this by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      I'd rather they take those stupid damned touchscreens out of cars completely. Give me physical knobs and buttons that stay in one place that I know where they are and I can make an adjustment without taking my eyes off of the road.

      Touchscreens in cars are dangerous.

  6. The REALLY amazing thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... is that Disney actually an engineering research department in the first place.

    1. Re: The REALLY amazing thing... by Adriax · · Score: 1

      Disney pours quite a lot of money into R&D, always has.
      They're always looking to increase the immersion factor of the park attractions with things like interactive displays. Helps the guests believe it really is magic that runs the Magic Kingdom.

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  7. Neat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Too bad Disney is making it. It will be consigned to letting 5 year olds feel pinochio's nose grow, instead of letting old perverts fondle virtual hoes.

    (I joke.)

    In the real world, this would have considerable applications for interactive kiosks in malls, since it would enable interactive braille and other tactile display technologies to be combined seamlessly with media intended for sighted people, among many other useful applications. Of course, slashdot won't be happy unless they can feel the hot grits. ;)

  8. Re:Oh Yes! by binarylarry · · Score: 2

    It's a whole new world.

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  9. Not new? by djupedal · · Score: 1

    "but it offers a set of controls that make it possible to tune tactile effects to a specific visual artifact on the fly. "

    Now if they can incorporate this with eye-tracking, we can finally have that genie-in-a-bottle we've always wanted.

  10. Latency first please by Twinbee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Tactile feedback sounds like a decent idea. But I wish they'd work on the latency first. You get a much better 'physical' connection with the device when the latency is less than 50 or even 5 milliseconds.

    The latest iPhone adds all sorts of scrolling gimmicks, and that'll unfortunately also have the effect of increased latency.

    It's worth posting Microsoft's research on this again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvQCPLkPt4

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    1. Re:Latency first please by LongearedBat · · Score: 1

      Interesting. (I have no mod points.)

    2. Re:Latency first please by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Tactile feedback sounds like a decent idea. But I wish they'd work on the latency first. You get a much better 'physical' connection with the device when the latency is less than 50 or even 5 milliseconds.

        The latest iPhone adds all sorts of scrolling gimmicks, and that'll unfortunately also have the effect of increased latency.

      Actually, someone has gone about to measure latency on phones and found that iOS scores consistently better than Android or Windows Phone - an iPhone 5 around 75ms, a 4 at 92ms. They also retested the 4 with iOS7 (it was 6.1.3 before) and found no difference in latency.

      They also test tablets and again, iOS generally came in first with around 75ms (iPad Mini) to 81ms (iPad 4th gen) latency. NVidia's SHIELD came in next, but had a huge amount of variance (92ms), showing what one can do if one optimizes their software stack (but the variance is worrying - silky smooth one moment, stuttery jerkiness the next?).

      Microsoft's Surface RT comes in at around 95ms, Kindle Fire HD (2013) at 114. The 2013 Nexus 7 at 135 and the Galaxy Tab 8 at a whopping 168ms.

      It goes to show that Android can do well in the latency department (see Kindle Fire, NVidia SHIELD), but that optimizations are seriously needed by hardware vendors.

      Of course, none of it anywhere near the sub-10ms latency in the video they get, but the latencies are marching downwards.

  11. I have to ask... by mishehu · · Score: 3

    But is pr0n going to be one of the first industries to make use of this technology?

    1. Re:I have to ask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pron is the first to make use of most technologies :P

    2. Re:I have to ask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you mean "I hate to ask" because the use of "but" as a conjunction makes little sense here. Food for thought.

    3. Re:I have to ask... by martin-boundary · · Score: 2

      Hill out man, it's a typo. He meant to write "butt"

  12. Patented till 500 years after the second life of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This technology is patented till 500 years after the second life of Walt Disney. (First they thaw him, then re-animate him, then he lives for 200 more years, then finally dies again (or nearly so, they re-freeze him), and this patent is set to expire 500 years after that. Go develop something else. I really wish these guys don't develop anything. They lock it up for thousands of years. How incredibly screwed up the patents system is.

  13. Re: Oh Yes! by mark-t · · Score: 1

    But to Snow White's credit, Ginnifer Goodwin is really really really cute.

  14. Can it do boobs? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    If so, their fortune is made.

    Otherwise they'll have to get buy on what they can make off of engineering and gaming products.

    seriously- I'd like to see this inside a set of gloves--- or a full suit.

    Brings "ready player one" to mind.

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  15. "There's a Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This what I'm reminded of when you say that. So I hope to get it stuck in your head, drive you mad and read tomorrow about another "/.er having gone insane and killed everyone".

    I'll compare you to a body part when commenting on the article.

    * On a serious note, some of Disney's efforts are downright amazing.

  16. Re:Patented till 500 years after the second life o by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

    Patents last 20 years. Not 500+.

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  17. Re: Patented till 500 years after the second life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're thinking of copyright,
    http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20020305_sprigman.html

    What everyone is missing is that this is the logical extension for Disney. Now when they bend us all over and fuck us, we can feel it with extra realism.

    Disney is most probably the WORST company in the planet.

  18. Steam Controller by jimshatt · · Score: 1

    So how does this compare to the haptic feedback of the Steam Controller. Same idea? Completely different?

  19. Re:Patented till 500 years after the second life o by peragrin · · Score: 1

    you don't understand patent law then.

    in 17 years Disney can move a screw,redo the wiring layout, claim it is a new product and re patent it.

    when there exists patent for manually collating papers by placing them them on a table and walking around said table to grab a paper from each stack(IBM). every patent needs to be questioned.

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  20. Re:'Disney's algorithm doesn't just playback' by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

    Making a verb out of a noun made from the original meaning of the work fucking annoyhells me.

    Verbing nouns and nouning verbs is how the language evolves ;)

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  21. Accessibility improvement? by FunPika · · Score: 1

    Could this be useful for stuff like allowing the blind to use tablets (since I imagine that being able to make bumps could lead to usable braille)?

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  22. Anyone notice the project name? by areusche · · Score: 1

    Look at this screen, isn't it neat! Wouldn't you think my LCD collection's complete!

  23. i predict by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    ...that once again, porn will lead the way in the application of this technology to the internet.

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  24. Damn you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that song is in my head.

  25. Re: Oh Yes! by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

    No, she's not. She's that borderline cute depending on how her hair is cut and whatever dastardly makeup is forced on her.

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  26. Re:Patented till 500 years after the second life o by sjames · · Score: 1

    Look up evergreening, patent thicket, and patent minefield.

  27. Re:'Disney's algorithm doesn't just playback' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me google that...

  28. Re:Patented till 500 years after the second life o by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    you don't understand patent law then.

    I don't think you do. My ex-brother in law was supervisor at a factory that made mechanical things. His boss would bring him something their competitor had come up with and ask him "can we make these?" He'd look at it and say "sure, but what about the patent?" His boss answered "that's why we employ lawyers."

    Sometimes getting around a patent is as simple as making the exact same part out of a different material. There are usually many ways to do or make a thing, and the patent will only cover one way of doing it.

    in 17 years Disney can move a screw,redo the wiring layout, claim it is a new product and re patent it.

    And anyone else can study the design and innovate their own improvements and patent those improvements. Other people can make different innovations and patent them. But if someone wants to use this tech in 17 years and follows the original patent, they're in the clear. You can't repatent a patent after it's expired.

  29. Important question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When will I be able to touch the princesses?

  30. Important Correction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Disney IMAGINEers Develop Touch Screens That Mimic Tactile Sensations"

    FTFY