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The Neuroscience of Happiness

Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Julie Beck has an interesting read in the Atlantic about how our brains are naturally wired to focus on the negative because evolution has optimized our brains for survival, but not necessarily happiness, which means that we feel stressed and unhappy even though there are a lot of positive things in our lives. 'The problem is that the brain is very good at building brain structure from negative experiences,' says neuropsychologist Dr. Rick Hanson. 'We learn immediately from pain—you know, "once burned, twice shy." As our ancestors evolved, they needed to pass on their genes. And day-to-day threats like predators or natural hazards had more urgency and impact for survival. On the other hand, positive experiences like food, shelter, or mating opportunities, those are good, but if you fail to have one of those good experiences today, as an animal, you would have a chance at one tomorrow. But the brain is relatively poor at turning positive experiences into emotional learning neural structure. 'Positive thinking by definition is conceptual and generally verbal and most conceptual or verbal material doesn't have a lot of impact on how we actually feel or function over the course of the day. A lot of people have this kind of positive, look on the bright side yappity yap, but deep down they're very frightened, angry, sad, disappointed, hurt, or lonely.' Dr. Hanson proposes several ideas for helping 're-wire' our brains for happiness. One of them is that we need to learn how to move positive experiences from short-term buffers to long-term storage. 'But to move from a short-term buffer to long-term storage, an experience needs to be held in that short-term buffer long enough for it to transfer to long-term storage,' says Hanson. 'When people are having positive thinking or even most positive experiences, the person is not taking the extra 10, 20 seconds to heighten the installation into neural structure. So it's not just positive thinking that's wasted on the brain; it's most positive experiences that are wasted on the brain.'"

136 comments

  1. Prior research... by Rhacman · · Score: 1

    How to Build a Happier Brain:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0V4TZAyd8I

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  2. Ah, but what is the secret to happiness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it a first post?

  3. Rx Wine, women and song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some might add good food, fast cars, sports, a few other things.

    "Women" of course could be "men".

    That's about all there is to say about this subject.

    1. Re:Rx Wine, women and song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Women" of course could be "men".

      I hate when that happens.

    2. Re:Rx Wine, women and song by sandytaru · · Score: 1

      But those things won't necessarily make you happy. They're at best a means to an end, not an end in of themselves. Wine is delicious and makes me tipsy, but I'm only happy drinking it when I'm at the vineyard/winery and having a discussion with the vintner over how his farm evolved from a tobacco farm fifty years ago to its current state as a productive commercial vineyard, and how he's so happy to leave a wonderful legacy to his children.

      $Gender/sexualPreference only make you happy if they're emotionally attuned to you. Many a married person is totally depressed, even if they have other lovers on the side.

      Song? There's enough terrible music being put out today to make me miserable for the rest of my life. So I don't listen to the radio, but instead put on podcasts of things that are good to hear.

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  4. We have a cure by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's called Scotch Whisky. Just another gift from the Scots. That and logarithms and engineers. (Oh and haggis!)

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    1. Re:We have a cure by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

      And kilts! Don't forget the kilts. I'm Italian, and I love to wear my kilts, though I do tend to get a lot of dandruff on my shoes.

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    2. Re:We have a cure by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      I love to wear my kilts, though I do tend to get a lot of dandruff on my shoes.

      You're taking it to a new level, eh? :)

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    3. Re:We have a cure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus. How about a shower once in a while you filthy european.

    4. Re:We have a cure by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Shower? With water?

      You're one sick, sick dude.

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    5. Re:We have a cure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The kilt (at least, the type most of us are familiar with these days) is English.

    6. Re:We have a cure by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      The kilt (at least, the type most of us are familiar with these days) is English.

      Really? Then what was Mel Gibson doing sporting one in Braveheart?

      Are you trying to tell me Mel Gibson lied to me?

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    7. Re:We have a cure by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Jesus. How about a shower once in a while you filthy european.

      That's no joke. I've spoken to several people from a certain Eastern European country who absolutely believe that showering saps your strength. And these are educated people.

      My wife told me to expect that the first time I went with her to meet her family, some twenty-some years ago, but I thought she must be exaggerating. But no...

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  5. Other positive attributes by turning+in+circles · · Score: 5, Informative

    Research has shown that gratitude, admiration, elevation of others increases people's happiness more than remembering being happy. Not sure how it scores against Scotch whiskey.

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    1. Re:Other positive attributes by jaymzter · · Score: 1

      So does anyone have an evolutionary explanation for happiness or any of the other stuff you were talking about? I'd like to think my cat admires me, but Churchill is of the opinion she looks down on me. Yet we're both just animals?

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    2. Re:Other positive attributes by turning+in+circles · · Score: 2

      Quoting: Evolutionary theories propose that gratitude is an adaptation for reciprocal altruism (the sequential exchange of costly benefits between nonrelatives) and, perhaps, upstream reciprocity (a pay-it-forward style distribution of an unearned benefit to a third party after one has received a benefit from another benefactor). Gratitude therefore may have played a unique role in human social evolution. --McCullough et al, too lazy to give you a full quote, here's DOI: doi: 10.1111/j.1467-8721.2008.00590.x

      Doesn't sound like it applies to cats.

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    3. Re:Other positive attributes by khallow · · Score: 1

      Yet we're both just animals?

      You're the food delivery, door opening, and emergency heat source animal, so you have to be tolerated. But let's not get crazy with this "happiness" thing.

  6. Sometimes it's a matter of pain by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Once you've had enough pain in your life, you learn to appreciate the good things you have. If you wake up in the morning and the first thing you think is, "Oh yeah, carpet under my feet! I remember when I didn't have carpet, this is so much better." That sort of thing does wonders for your happiness levels.

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    1. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Carpet and potable water right from the tap. Those things are everyday wonders to those of us that have had to live with next to nothing. Toilets, air conditioning, warm food, cold beer, and electricity are nice, but at the top of the list of comforts is carpet and tap water.

    2. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by mattie_p · · Score: 1

      Once you've had enough pain in your life, you learn to appreciate the good things you have. If you wake up in the morning and the first thing you think is, "Oh yeah, carpet under my feet! I remember when I didn't have carpet, this is so much better." That sort of thing does wonders for your happiness levels.

      I like hardwood floors, you insensitive clod!

    3. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... enough pain in your life ... does wonders for your happiness levels.

      Sometimes true and sometimes not: if the pain is likely to come back in a way that you can't control then fear may erode your happiness. If you're bullied or abused on a regular basis by someone in a position of power then the appreciation of not being abused at the moment may be eroded by the fear of what's to come.

    4. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm. Having had to live without electricity and running water I would put potable water at the top of the list. Carpet, really? Refrigeration easily beats carpet. Hot water is really nice also. Cold bucket baths suck. Having to cook every single meal with no leftovers is much worse than having to put on flip flops before stepping onto the cold concrete floor.

    5. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      I pity the fool

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    6. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Every morning, I turn on my shower and let potable water run down the drain while I wait for the it to heat up. The fact that I have hot running water, and can afford to let potable water go to waste like that without much thought places me not just in the wealthiest 10% of people currently alive, but in the wealthiest 1% of people who have ever lived. Spending a moment pondering that in the morning makes you feel very lucky to be born into a society that can take such things for granted.

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    7. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by wmac1 · · Score: 1

      Right now I am in trouble with cold water in the shared bathroom in the hostel university has provided to me. In 40s it is a bit hard to take it. For the past 15 months this has been the story (except the few days in between I went to different conferences and stayed at hotel).

      In general yes, I have enjoyed buying household equipment one by one with my ex-wife and building the life (that was eventually ruined after 10 years by a cheating wife). After my father died (I was 18) I left the home and did not have any support. So I have seen lots of difficulties in my life ... lots of them... I guess that's why I can appreciate and enjoy my life even in a piss poor hostel (at the age of 41).

    8. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      ... and not long later, that sense of happiness is replaced with pity and woe for the 99% of those who don't have them.

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    9. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      You must live close to the tropics, then.

      I certainly don't miss waking up and dancing across the bathroom floor not because I was happy or anything - but because anything longer than 1/4 of a second of contact with the freaking floor was so cold that it hurt!

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    10. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Well, on the plus side, 90% of them are already dead...

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    11. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by rock_climbing_guy · · Score: 1

      Where can I contact you in regards to the message in your .sig?

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    12. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wherever I have been without, at least had trees. Right there is a source of fuel and insulation. Refrigeration is nice, but it is easy enough to dry and can foods. Even a roof is a cheap commodity. What isn't is a dirt free, soft surface to walk on. No worries of injury or fear of infection to debris like sand or dirt getting into everything.

    13. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      andrewthompson10 at a gmail account should work

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    14. Re:Sometimes it's a matter of pain by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Sounds like you're having tons of fun traveling. That's great.

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  7. Re:"Neuroscience" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hey look everybody! Lafayette Ron Hubbard is posting from his volcano!

  8. Mating opportunities? by pipelayerification · · Score: 2

    I saw a donkey show in Tijuana many years ago but I'm still fuzzy on what I emotionally learned from it.

    1. Re:Mating opportunities? by zazenation · · Score: 1

      Was it similar to the donkey show in "Clerks 2"?

    2. Re: Mating opportunities? by pipelayerification · · Score: 1

      Possibly. But I dont remember it being Kinky Kelly. I was a little drunk though.

  9. Maybe it's that way for a reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We *could* invent soma to make us all happy. But I don't think that's a good idea. I'm more for the pursuit of balance than the pursuit of happiness. TFS itself states the reason why the brain is the way it is. Let's not ruin ours.

  10. "'re-wire' our brains for happiness" by lunacyq · · Score: 0

    "move positive experiences from short-term buffers to long-term storage. 'But to move from a short-term buffer to long-term storage, an experience needs to be held in that short-term buffer long enough for it to transfer to long-term storage." Sounds like addiction formation to me.

  11. Brain Hax by srwood · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Therapy based upon this has been available for years. No need for a physiological explanation: http://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ804035.pdf

    1. Re:Brain Hax by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 2

      But now that we have an explanation, it is no longer feel good hippy voodoo bullshit. This is how stuff becomes legitimised, insurance covered, not just fooling yourself therapy.
      Thanks, science!

  12. Old technology by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 2

    How to Build a Happier Brain:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0V4TZAyd8I

    That's older technology. You can view the new technology here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBCy-aY26zs#t=17.

    Same stuff, different interpretation. Enjoy!

    1. Re:Old technology by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 1
      I like this one

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jisK5gX8X_g

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  13. Classical conditioning works on humans, too. by ddt · · Score: 2

    That's why you want to save meals and sex for when you've been good.

    1. Re:Classical conditioning works on humans, too. by sociocapitalist · · Score: 1

      That's why you want to save meals and sex for when you've been good.

      I assume you're talking about the giving of rather than the receiving of :-)

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  14. Positive vs negative reinforcement by DeathGrippe · · Score: 1

    Animal trainers have demonstrated repeatedly that positive reinforcement is more effective at eliciting behavior than negative. In other words, the carrot works better than the stick.

    To me, this seems contradictory.

    1. Re:Positive vs negative reinforcement by xtronics · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Animal trainers have demonstrated repeatedly that positive reinforcement is more effective at eliciting behavior than negative. In other words, the carrot works better than the stick.

      To me, this seems contradictory.

      There is a lot of papers on the point you bring up. What makes something positive? Eating after not having food is positive or is it the end of a negative experience? If you have plenty to eat, is food still a reward? (animal trainers keep their animals a bit hungry ).

      So is a paycheck positive? Or is it preventing a negative. etc etc..

    2. Re:Positive vs negative reinforcement by venicebeach · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Reward is useful for shaping behavior, but it turns out not to be particularly effective at creating happiness. See: drug addiction.

    3. Re:Positive vs negative reinforcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm just reminded of something a teacher once taught me in class.

      "For every insult or put-down a person receives, it takes ten positive things to reverse the low self-esteem that as been inflicted."

    4. Re:Positive vs negative reinforcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Animal trainers have demonstrated repeatedly that positive reinforcement is more effective at eliciting behavior than negative. In other words, the carrot works better than the stick.

      To me, this seems contradictory.

      There is a lot of papers on the point you bring up. What makes something positive? Eating after not having food is positive or is it the end of a negative experience? If you have plenty to eat, is food still a reward? (animal trainers keep their animals a bit hungry ).

      So is a paycheck positive? Or is it preventing a negative. etc etc..

      To your way of thinking there is no such thing as positive. The point becomes moot. It is no longer possible to have a science of happiness...and so what the researchers claim is also meaningless.

    5. Re: Positive vs negative reinforcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I remember correctly I from Psych 1001, "positive" in positive reinforcement simply means adding something to the environment. Taking away a bad thing is negative reinforcement, and what we think of as punishment is usually 'positive punishment' or 'negative punishment' - taking away a good thing.

    6. Re:Positive vs negative reinforcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Negative reinforcement refers to reinforcing a behavior by removing an aversive stimulus once the desired behavior is observed. The proverbial stick is actually punishment (an aversive stimulus applied after observing an undesired behavior), which is not quite the same thing.

    7. Re:Positive vs negative reinforcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are really only two species on the planet that are able to learn effectively via negative reinforcement, humans and dogs. Which I find to be pretty cool.

    8. Re:Positive vs negative reinforcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Animal trainers have demonstrated repeatedly that positive reinforcement is more effective at eliciting behavior than negative. In other words, the carrot works better than the stick.

      To me, this seems contradictory.

      There is a lot of papers on the point you bring up. What makes something positive? Eating after not having food is positive or is it the end of a negative experience? If you have plenty to eat, is food still a reward? (animal trainers keep their animals a bit hungry ).

      So is a paycheck positive? Or is it preventing a negative. etc etc..

      I'm a doctoral candidate in clinical psychology. Here are some basic definitions in behaviorism:

      Positive Reinforcement - Increasing the likelihood of a behavior by adding something. (Here's a cookie!)
      Negative Reinforcement - Increasing the likelihood of a behavior by taking something away. (You don't have to mow the lawn this week!)
      Positive Punishment - Decreasing the likelihood of a behavior by adding something. (Do 10 laps around the field!)
      Negative Punishment - Decreasing the likelihood of a behavior by taking something away. (No more internet this week!)

      So basically, whenever you add something, whether it's a happy thing or a sad thing, it's called "positive". Whenever you take something away, it's called "negative". If it's intended to increase the target behavior, it's reinforcement. If it's intended to decrease the target behavior, it's a punishment. To simplify, in behaviorism you usually take only what is directly observable. Thus, you frame it as simply as possible, and a paycheck would be seen as a positive reinforcement for working.

    9. Re:Positive vs negative reinforcement by xtronics · · Score: 1

      I think you should hesitate and think for yourself about the definition (there are way to many that parrot and preach int the world). Not all rewards are physical items. And a physical item can remove a different feedback - both positive and negative. It isn't that difficult to analyze the vocabulary and realize the arbitrary nature of the issue. In the end, we have to ask if it has helped of hurt our true understanding of what is going on.

      The reality of psychology is that people coining new poorly defined terms can publish books and papers - get grant money and profit. There are others of us that want to truly understand the world we live in. This requires a consistent, objective epistemology and the type of science described perhaps best by Richard Feynman.

      Food reward is the most studied feedback - and is the food positive or the hunger a negative?

      The way out of this is to realize that we evolved to survive - and the feedback impacts our survival. How psychologists classify feedback does not really matter.

  15. Re:"Neuroscience" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Psychology under a new branding, yeah that pseudo science quackery.

    I love how she explicitly ignores the centuries old knowledge that you can train an animal more successfully in the long run by giving rewards. How do you think a mouse can learn to chase down that Oreo in the maze and prefer it over the bland cracker if they can't make long term memories out of feeling good? How do you train a dog to do tricks?

    This "research" is just rubbish.

  16. Re:"Neuroscience" by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    nonsense, see trained horses in action? they were trained with pain

  17. Irrevelant. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Happiness does not matter to the human race.

    The PURSUIT of happiness drives us. But obtaining it... The goal is met. We are done.

    So that can't happen very often or we fail as a species.

    1. Re:Irrevelant. by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      The PURSUIT of the car drives us. But obtaining it... The goal is met. We are done.

      So that can't happen very often or we fail as a species.

      - Fido

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  18. There shall be no happiness!!! by Macchendra · · Score: 1

    We shall disapprove! This is our purpose!

  19. Re:"Neuroscience" by Macchendra · · Score: 1

    Among psychology, all theories are technology. Dismiss it if you must, but it is all technology. In the '70s so much was discovered, but it is not provable...

  20. It's called ecstasy by jlb.think · · Score: 2

    Your brain isn't wired for happiness. Case in point, I experienced true happiness twice; once while on ecstasy, and life as a child.

    1. Re:It's called ecstasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      After doing yoga for 10 years, I can provoke ecstacy / bliss by pure will at any time!

      It's just relaxation of a "muscle" (I don't know exactly what it is, but it's very simple once you've got familiar with it).

      I find people trying to remember "happy times", often seem desperate and full of unreleased negative feelings. To choke it down with "frantic partying", "happy times" and "remember the glories past", only makes it stronger over time.

      Feelings need to be felt and recognized. With the right practice, they will release themselves.

    2. Re:It's called ecstasy by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      ok, hope your life get better

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    3. Re:It's called ecstasy by OdinOdin_ · · Score: 1

      The "muscle" maybe called ego. It is usually this that tries to hold onto the nonsense it thinks is important.

      Without the ego there is only the present and the only thing to do in the present is process all feelings without attachment (it is the ego trying to do that 'attaching'). The relaxing you are taking about is the non-attachment.

  21. Stop and Smell the Roses by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    n/t

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  22. Eliminate the outdated identity by Laxori666 · · Score: 1
    The soul too, not just the ego. Then you will be happy.

    It is now practicable for any human being to be totally free from malice and sorrow, the two fundamental elements which prevent one from being happy and harmless. Gone now are the days of having to assiduously practice humility and pacifism in an ultimately futile attempt to become free by transcending the opposites ... the traditional and narrow path of denial and fantasy, negation and hallucination. A wide and wondrous path of blitheness and gaiety is now available for one who wishes to live the freedom of the actual.

    Actual freedom is a tried and tested way of being happy and harmless in the world as it actually is ... stripped of the veneer of normal reality or Greater Reality which is super-imposed by the psychological and/or psychic entity within the body. This entity is that feeling of identity which inhibits any freedom and sabotages every well-meant endeavour. Thus far one has had only two choices: being normal or being spiritual. Now there is a third alternative ... and it supersedes any humanistic philosophical worldview and/or any mystical Altered State Of Consciousness.

    1. Re:Eliminate the outdated identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was the most un-approachable site I've ever seen. Interested in what Laxori666 was saying? Don't waste your time following the link. Even the FAQ at that appalling eyesore of a website splits off into hundreds of bullshit non-answers - there's simply no way of knowing what on earth these people are on about.

  23. Then Explain Las Vegas by grumling · · Score: 1

    This doesn’t make sense. If the brain spent more time dwelling on the negative, why do people gamble? It seems to me that’s the exact opposite: the brain focuses on past good fortune (I put money in this machine and got a little more back), not the bad (I put money in this machine and nothing happened). Clearly the bad result will happen far more often than the good result, yet many otherwise average people waste millions of dolars and hours of their lives in front of slot machines.

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    1. Re:Then Explain Las Vegas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The lights and sound of these machines are engineered to produce dopamine and cause addiction in a mammalian brain. Happy, bright colors make us forget the dusty and dull colors of Nevada.

    2. Re:Then Explain Las Vegas by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      And baseball? The best fail 70% of the time, yet millions seem to love the game.

      Similarly, beating a high score in a video game. We try a hundred, or a thousand, times, to get that one moment. [I still remember getting 10billion on the ST:TNG pinball game, and this happened at least 20 years ago. One of the hardest, and most enjoyable, pins I've ever played.]

      There must be something different at work with these two examples because they are, I think, the opposite of the "Jackpot!" Vegas thing. They seem "healthier".

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    3. Re:Then Explain Las Vegas by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      Part of that is that it's engineered to not be as much of a negative when you lose. Each spin is a small enough amount of money that you won't freak out and when you lose, nothing happens. When you win, even a fairly small amount of money there's flashing lights and sounds and all sorts of excitement. Compare to the number of people who enjoy public speaking. The actual negative result wasn't that bad, but being embarrassed in front of a large crowd made such a big impact on them mentally that they avoid the negative more than they try to reach the positive.

  24. If we aren't optimized for happiness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    then why do we want it? Wouldn't the desire be gone too?

  25. Idleness by Dripdry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One thing I'd like to be sure isn't lost here is the clearly stated difficulty: Keeping a positive moment in mind long enough for it to go to long term storage.
    If we don't have enough time to stop and appreciate positive moments they are lost, obviously.

    There is a body of literature on idleness and over the last few years I've begun to amass a collection of it. The more I follow idleness as an art, as a way of being, the happier I've become. It hasn't gotten rid of too many negatives, per se, but I find myself happier in general (though that might be due to any number of other factors, correlation/causation etc). It has even contributed to a little delinquency, for sure (hooray fun!), but seems on the whole a good habit.

    It's been said many times, but this article bears it out: If we don't stop to smell the roses and really appreciate them, appreciate others and the gifts we bring each other every day, we are rushing blindly and headlong toward just physical death, but the death of the spirit too.

    So you, yes you, the person with 4 monitors, a tablet, and an iPhone buzzing with facebook while the TV is blaring in the background, who feels all high off gadgetry (and maybe cheetos)... I dare you to try the hardest thing you'll ever do: Stop and do nothing for a day. Just sit, stare out a window, make a pot of tea. Just stop. and. be. idle.

    Though if you do get antsy I can recommend reading "How to Be Idle", a fun read and an antidote of sorts.

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    1. Re:Idleness by Dripdry · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Have you ever noticed how being idle REALLY pisses off the masters and drivers of our economy? People like Edison HATED idlers (though he himself took naps ALL the time) If we were idle, what then would we consume? Not nearly as much, I wager. We might think, might eventually interact with each other in the real world, and might accomplish more than moving a few pixels about a screen or some metal and plastic from one place to another. Forfend!

      And now... I'm going to go take a long, delightful snooze.

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    2. Re:Idleness by ledow · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's also, if you are one, one of the best things about being introvert.

      Most people associate introversion with shyness / being pathetic / being socially inadequate. Though I'm sure that's true of a lot of people (and probably even myself), it's not the sole cause.

      The cause is that sitting quietly and thinking and just enjoying the "idleness" is MORE attractive to the introvert than being thrown into a social situation where they are forced to discuss, at length, things like the weather, or how shit their job is, or what that idiot on reality TV is doing at the moment, etc.

      I find that being in a party (even a dinner party situation, as I've gotten older) is really one of the most stressful things I can find. Having to make small-talk (yuck). Having to be nice to people I don't particularly know well. Having to be doing SOMETHING all the time. Not being left alone ("come and dance", "don't sit there, come meet my friend", etc.).

      You can spot this by putting an introvert near another. They will get on. They will get on by being able to talk about only things they find interesting (and if there's a common ground, they'll find it) and not have to worry about saying "something" all the time, no matter how inane the conversation. They'll still chat and discuss their lives but only the bits they are interested in, the positive notes of their lives, and strenuously try to find something interesting in the other person.

      Put them in a room with a guy who just wants to talk about himself, gets pent up being quiet in a room, etc. and you'll see that both hate the situation.

      It's enjoying the peace, the quiet, the lazily wandering around the house that allows people like myself to relax and enjoy life. No, I don't find rushing out to every friend's house relaxing. I'd invite them over, one-to-one, to watch a movie, or play some board games or read a book, or even just sit out in the garden chatting.

      The problem comes from people who don't understand this: "How can you just sit there?" Easy. Watch.
      "Why don't you get out more and do lots of things?" Because I'm happy here. Doing little.

      Is it laziness as in lack-of-effort-when-it's-required? No. It's a choice to NOT do some things when they aren't necessary at all. That feeling that most only get when they get home from a strenuous day at work and get to sit down for five minutes before they then rush off to do other things? I feel that a lot. Because those other things aren't as important as me relaxing and enjoying life.

      We are blessed to live in a modern age where you don't have to work from the second you wake to the second you sleep, not get enough sleep anyway, and have to fight through the day against everything from nature to other people. Enjoy life while you have it. Because waiting for retirement to sit down and have even ten minutes to yourself is STUPENDOUSLY unhealthy and dangerous.

      My weekend is coming up. I plan to do little. And that which I do plan to do, I've chosen to do, and it's quite non-strenuous (Jupiter is visible tomorrow night if I'm lucky with the weather - I'll go outside in the evening, set up a scope, and sit in the garden looking at stars... a really physically taxing hobby that I've discovered recently to be wonderfully engaging for my brain without being strenuous at all).

      I'm sure there are people who would hate the idea of the whole concept and who don't even understand it. But, for some, it's the perfect way to live.

    3. Re:Idleness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool, thanks for sharing your point of view, even if it not mine, it is good hear and think about! Well put.

    4. Re:Idleness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sincerely, thank you for this!

    5. Re:Idleness by awg090 · · Score: 1

      Thank you. I learned something about myself from this; I learned that I already do a lot of it.

    6. Re:Idleness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck making the payments on your wife's new Honda, I imagine the screaming you will hear as the bill collectors come after you will neutralize the peace you had.

    7. Re:Idleness by ledow · · Score: 1

      What does that have to do with anything? Can you not read? This isn't about "lazy" people who don't get off their bum and work to earn money (hint: Never been unemployed in nearly 20 years of working life, not even for a second), this is about those who CHOOSE to be lazy when they don't need to do something (i.e. outside work, etc.).

      Good luck with your heart attacks, stress-related disorders and working yourself to an early grave for no reward. Because, trust me, your pension won't be adequate whatever you do and on balance of all probability you'll die before you can enjoy retirement (that's what retirement and pensions basically are - a gamble on whether you'll live that long, funded by those of us who didn't but still paid in).

      Go stress over your own payments. This is precisely what we're talking about here - living a stress-free life about things that don't matter and not buying into unnecessary "things" (like having more than one car, one of them a new Honda.... every car I've ever owned put together would cost me less than the laptop I'm writing this on - a work laptop - and yet I drive 30,000 miles a year just to work and back).

      Stress yourself out worrying how to pay for expensive crap that you don't need and how you'll work to pay it. Or go sit in the garden and listen to the birds while doing without. That's what this post is about. I'm the latter.

    8. Re:Idleness by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      The more I follow idleness as an art, as a way of being, the happier I've become. It hasn't gotten rid of too many negatives, per se, but I find myself happier in general

      This is the most insightful thing I've read here, since it gets at the heart of the many things wrong with TFA.

      As I understand TFA, it's trying to blame the high rate of depression, anxiety "disorders," etc. in our modern culture on an evolutionary preference to emphasize bad experiences and memories.

      I think that's a load of BS. It's a typical attempt by psychology to connect to evolution, where we don't actually think through the implications and logic of the argument.

      If TFA were actually true, think about what would follow. The societies with the most stress caused by things relevant to survival should have the highest depression, highest anxiety disorders, highest numbers of suicides, etc. In other words, if we go find hunter-gatherer societies, where ensuring food sources, etc. can be a daily struggle, we should find loads of them committing suicide randomly or something.

      That's, of course, nonsense. And it doesn't make any sense from an evolutionary perspective. It wouldn't make any sense for evolution to cause depression or chronic anxiety that results in continuous unhappiness.

      In fact, I can't recall any studies showing that less technologically sophisticated societies have higher rates of these mental disorders. They should if this were really driven by evolution, since chances of food scarcity, disease, etc. are much higher. On the other hand, I can recall a few studies showing how the introduction of a modern commercial culture to global societies would cause depression, anxiety disorders, etc. where they didn't exist before. Also, these disorders begin to appear in parts of the population that don't make sense from an evolutionary perspective. Why should teenagers, for example, have one of the highest rates of depression and suicidal thoughts in developed societies? Evolution shouldn't kill off people before they have a chance to reproduce. It makes no sense. By the logic in TFA, the people who should be most depressed should be people in pain or who live in conditions where fundamental necessities of life are undependable -- instead, we see a lot of depression among healthy young folks in societies where they have all basic needs fulfilled.

      Moreover, although TFA points out an evolutionary advantage to learning from negative experiences (like "fire is hot -- don't touch it again or it will cause pain"), there are also significant rewards for positive experiences with evolutionary pressure.

      For example, sex and food. Most people have very strong memories about these, particularly when they are first encountered (first kiss, first sexual experience, etc.). How many people get a psychological boost when they encounter something that "tastes like Mom's cooking" again?

      Also, particularly for women, there are all sorts of reinforcing and filtering mechanisms that make reproduction seem like a "positive" experience, even though it involves great pain, great sacrifices in time and energy, many sleepless nights, etc. I can't tell you how many fathers I've talked with who have made a comment like: "If women actually remembered how crazy the birth and raising of an infant was, the human race would have died out long ago." Instead, we get loads of hormones that make new mothers remember these as mostly positive experiences (despite the yelling and screaming and stressful days and nights that the dads remember). When the child is a little older, rather than saying, "gosh that was crazy, I can't imagine going through that again!" many people just look at a baby they see somewhere and say, "Isn't that cute? Let's have another!"

      In general, in fact, I'd say that TFA is completely wrong when it comes to long-term memories. Yes, we learn from painful and negative experiences. But humans also seem to have a natural

    9. Re:Idleness by deathcloset · · Score: 1

      Stress yourself out worrying how to pay for expensive crap that you don't need and how you'll work to pay it. Or go sit in the garden and listen to the birds while doing without. That's what this post is about. I'm the latter.

      Alrighty, you are inarguably an awesome person and so I feel no problem waxing abstract with (or at, if you do not reply) you. Here's my question for you: Is homosapien speciating?

      You see, I was watching a survival show and the host said that expending little energy was the key to survival. This is true for obvious reasons, and yet if this were a general rule of the universe then there would be only the most efficient plants as lifeforms - things like mammals could not have evolved unless there is a counter argument to this. This thinking worries me at times because of the apparent contradiction of the human being in regards to this. My reasoning or thoughts go somewhat like this.

      Every person I've met that I would call "intellectual" (not schooled, mind you, just intellectual) has an affinity for exactly your mode of activity: the introvert modus operandi. This makes sense because how else could one study, read, learn, imagine or think if every moment of their life is occupied with physical and social activity? Obviously one can't. However, most of the socially 'successful' do occupy their lives with physical and social activity (business leaders, politicians, celebrities). Yet the MOST successful people seem to be exceptions - Bill Gates is well known to have a love for introverted activities (going to cabin for weeks and months to just read). This post is becoming a bit of an outlet for me and a brainstorm so bear with me.

      So then, let us assume that there are 2 types of success: 1) Social or societal success, and 2) Individual success. The result of type 1 success I think is money and fame. The result of type 2 success is confidence and well, well-being I guess. But honestly I don't think type 1 or 2 in general is more or less energy consuming or conserving than the other...I guess I haven't thought about this as much as I thought I had.

      I'll just end this now and submit it for the record, but before I do I must mention Asimov's view of the future speciation of humanity. Asimov framed a future of Earthlings and Spacers. Those Earthlings crammed together living in gargantuan enclosed cities on an overcrowded planet with diminishing resources. The Spacers living on vast, unoccupied planets, living for centuries in relative peace and quiet.

      The spacers sound ideal, but Asimov is keen to point out the negatives - the spacers do not drink or intake any drugs, they rarely come into contact with one another and because they live so long they have little motivation to progress. Asimov framed the two polarities of the human future as the two types of stability, dynamic Earth and static spacers and in doing so he showed that both were paths to ultimate extinction. The answer in Asimov's mind was some middle-ground, where humans left their coddled cities to explore and colonize the galaxy, but never fully settled on any one of them...at least for about 20k years which is when the foundation books kick in to tackle another form of social stagnation and decay.

      Of course, Asimov had robots to help - and one beloved, fair-skinned android in particular. His humans remained a single species (solarians and mutants like the mule aside). I wonder, though, if that is realistic? I think we must speciate. I wonder if it is trying to happen as we speak. Thanks for reading!

  26. This is sorta why Learn To Play, Noob! exists... by seebs · · Score: 1

    Learn to play, noob! was written partially to address some of the things that make people gratuitiously unhappy.

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  27. Happiness | secret by ElitistWhiner · · Score: 2

    Having what you want
    over
    Wanting what you have

  28. Pile of shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm happy! Author and all who agree need to evolve!

  29. optimize for happiness if you like by stenvar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you prefer to optimize for happiness, there are lots of drugs to help you with that.

    Unfortunately, optimizing for happiness has serious disadvantages even in modern society. Preferentially learning from painful experiences has its benefits even today.

    1. Re:optimize for happiness if you like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been taking Vitamin C tablets before breakfast, 1x 500mg tablet and the neatest trick is that I get all of the housework done, I thought I had depression, at least thats what the doctors have been telling me for the last 15 years.

      Then I tried Noopept. now that I'm taking it on a 2-3 times a week basis I feel like I can actually feel comfortable in my own skin again and no longer "sad".

      Come to think of it, every single thing that the doctors have been shoving down my throat has been all wrong, I just needed good nutrition and a super little pill like Noopept.

    2. Re:optimize for happiness if you like by slew · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As someone who optimizes for happiness and doesn't indulge in mind altering substances (unless you count the occasional good prime NY strip cooked medium rare), I haven't noticed any disadvantages you seem to be alluding to. Would you care to elaborate?

      Not saying optimizing for happiness is what everyone should do (to each his own), but I don't even understand what it is like to go through life mostly motivated by attempting to avoid unhappiness (or pain, or whatever the opposite of what I'm doing is).

      It's not to say I'm happy all the time (I think people would be delusional if they were), but if I had to figuratively walk across coals to get some literal happiness, I probably would consider it. I'm guessing a person with the opposite temperament would avoid this simply to avoid the temporary unhappiness of the figurative coals. No pain, no gain?

      The /. summary doesn't do the article justice (okay that's not a revelation). They didn't say a lot people have some sort of happiness faÃade, the author said "I know a lot of people..." that means something totally different. Maybe (I'm guessing) that person knows a bunch of sad, angry, lonely, hurt or frightened people that could benefit from his advice (or perhaps could sell a self help book to?). He is a therapist after all (and no doubt sees a bunch of folks with serious psychological problems).

      As to feigned happiness somehow being a cover up for some feelings of sadness, angry, lonely, hurt, or frightened feelings, I think that might be mostly restricted to people that need external validation. For example, I'm asking myself, if I was angry or lonely, why hide it by attempting to feign happiness to someone who could give a rats ass about what I felt? (since most folks give a rats ass about the affairs of total strangers or even casual acquaintances).

      As many people will attest, when you stop caring what other people think about you, your happiness level will increase greatly... Perhaps this is the "clear" (not necessarily happy) thinking the author is alluding to that is necessary to be happy?

    3. Re:optimize for happiness if you like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely, as someone suffering from anxiety (for example I couldn't go into crowded public places) I have been prescribed Pregabalin (Lyrica) by my doctor.

      Pregabalin is a GABA agonist and apart from eliminating anxiety it makes you feel 'fine'. For the first time in my life I feel not happy or sad but 'fine'. Its perfect.

      I feel like Pete at the end of James L Halperin's The Truth Machine; I feel slightly dulled and no longer like a magnesium flare burning through my allotment of life, but the reward is so well worth the sacrifice.

         

    4. Re:optimize for happiness if you like by sociocapitalist · · Score: 1

      If you prefer to optimize for happiness, there are lots of drugs to help you with that.

      Unfortunately, optimizing for happiness has serious disadvantages even in modern society. Preferentially learning from painful experiences has its benefits even today.

      I find, I believe largely due to the way our lives have gone so far, that I am a worrier and my partner is a happy, happy non-worrier. It can be really fucking annoying when I'm focused on serious things and she starts talking about cookies or some shit but overall I guess it balances out - helps me stop focusing only on bad things. Presumably better for the kids too, to have a balance.

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    5. Re:optimize for happiness if you like by stenvar · · Score: 1

      In the context of the article, we've been talking about evolution optimizing your brain for achieving more happiness than it currently can achieve. You can mimic that with drugs, and it's a bad thing.

      You are trying to optimize your happiness through your choices and that's what you're supposed to do. In fact, the reason evolution doesn't optimize the brain for achieving more happiness more easily is precisely so that you have lots of room to optimize your happiness through behavior.

    6. Re:optimize for happiness if you like by slew · · Score: 1

      I don't think you read the same article (aka self help book infomercial) I did.

      1. The article does really talk about "evolution optimizing your brain for achieving more happiness that it currenty can achieve". It posits that "the brain is relatively poor at turning positive experiences into emotional learning neural structure." I don't see how these are related.

      2. The article doesn't really talk about behavior at all. It talks about learning and how survival learning has priority.

      3. It also talks alot about internal satisfaction, or more specifically "repeatedly internalize the sense of having our three core needs met: safety, satisfaction, and connection ."

      It's really a self help book written by people that think happy people must be jerks (probably because they don't need his help). Here's a classic quote from this self professed self-help guru...

      Think of all the people who tell you why the world is a good place, but they’re still jerks.

      Not sure why anyone would take advice from someone with that attitude...

    7. Re:optimize for happiness if you like by stenvar · · Score: 1

      It posits that "the brain is relatively poor at turning positive experiences into emotional learning neural structure." I don't see how these are related.

      It is "poor" at this because that's what motivates you to actually do things day to day.

      2. The article doesn't really talk about behavior at all. It talks about learning and how survival learning has priority.

      Yes, and that's its problem. Your brain evolved certain levels of happiness and satisfaction for the purpose of modifying your behavior.

      3. It also talks alot about internal satisfaction, or more specifically "repeatedly internalize the sense of having our three core needs met: safety, satisfaction, and connection ."

      Who cares? You didn't evolve to be satisfied and connected, you evolved to survive and f*ck.

      Think of all the people who tell you why the world is a good place, but they’re still jerks.

      Not sure why anyone would take advice from someone with that attitude...

      I don't know either, and I didn't write that. Maybe you should pay more attention to your quoting.

    8. Re:optimize for happiness if you like by slew · · Score: 1

      FWIW the statement "Think of all the people who tell you why the world is a good place, but theyâ(TM)re still jerks." was a direct quote from the interview with the author in the article.

      My response "Not sure why anyone would take advice from someone with that attitude..." was a comment on the potential validity of their points given this attitude...

    9. Re:optimize for happiness if you like by stenvar · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes. I compared to all the other crap in the article, that just paled. Point is: you're pre-wired not to be too happy for a reason.

      The real problem isn't that people are irrationally unhappy or stressed out, the point is that they are stressed out over the wrong things. There are plenty of things to be scared of and that people could do something about: lack of exercise, bad nutrition, lack of savings and retirement, lack of networking, financial fraud, untrustworthy partners, etc. Yet, what people actually stress out about doesn't actually make a difference in their lives: banking, global warming, health care, "the 1%", etc. It's a cognitive problem, not a problem of insufficient happiness.

  30. Re:"Neuroscience" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not all of them.

    I don't train my dogs with pain, either.

  31. "once burned, twice shy." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to note that the "once burned, twice shy." bit isn't actually true with every individual ;)

  32. Neuroscience? C'mon by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    We all know how to get happy. Pump enough SRAs into a person and he IS happy, whether he wants to or not.

    Strangely, though, I have that suspicion that our governments don't want us to be happy. That list reads a bit like a schedule 1 who is who...

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    1. Re:Neuroscience? C'mon by jergantic · · Score: 1

      But this only works for a short period until the person's body gets accustomed, leaving them unhappier than before and now addicted to an expensive drug, right? I haven't heard that anyone's invented Soma from Brave New World yet.

    2. Re:Neuroscience? C'mon by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Hardly, the problem is rather that some of those substances are rather taxing on the rest of your physiology (especially cardiac troubles are far from impossible). What matters is dosage and responsible use.

      Of course you can go overboard and blow yourself into an orbit, but you can do that with SRIs quite easily, too, though these are fairly trivial to get, some even without seeing a doc first. Of course, they don't really work as well at the "get happy" front, they're rather making you fairly UNhappy when overdosed.

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  33. Re:"Neuroscience" by stjobe · · Score: 1

    Unless I completely misremember my Psychology classes, you get the best results by a combination of punishment (for wrong behaviour) and reward (for right behaviour). Doing just one or the other doesn't get you the result you want as quickly.

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  34. A terrible idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having too many positive experiences in a "long-term storage" would be a terrible idea. Yeah, it sounds nice to be able to remember clearly the happiest moments in your life, but I doubt they will make you feel happier when compared to the dullness of day-to-day life.

    Instead I prefer to be constantly remembered that my life is usually much better than my darkest memories.

  35. Treat happiness like learning by TristanPalmer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I struggled with depression for many years and eventually came up with a simple exercise to increase happiness: At the end of the day I write down as many good things that happened that day as I can; they can be as simple as having a nice sandwich or the enjoyment I got from listening to music. I aim to write at least five a day. I then read back over the last couple of weeks entries too. The way I figure it, the problem was that when I felt bad about something I couldn't remember the good things in life clearly enough for those memories to combat the feelings of sadness (ie. my brain hadn't burnt the good memories in clearly enough). I took the simple and proven techniques that I use when learning a new subject (write good notes, read over those notes several times) and applied them to emotional memories instead of facts. Works very well, only takes up 5 minutes a day.

    1. Re:Treat happiness like learning by jones_supa · · Score: 2

      How about writing them to Twitter instead? That could be an interesting combination. Those small snippets of enjoyment would make great tweets.

    2. Re:Treat happiness like learning by beaverdownunder · · Score: 1

      Just to note here that we shouldn't confuse emotional depression with physical depression.

      People who suffer from so-called 'atypical' physical depression can't 'cure' themselves with happiness -- although granted it sure helps with coping, coping is all people with atypical depression can realistically do.

      Being happy won't solve your fatigue, anxiety etc. But it'l make it a bit more tolerable to be sure.

    3. Re:Treat happiness like learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about writing them to Twitter instead? That could be an interesting combination. Those small snippets of enjoyment would make great tweets.

      Nice try, Twitter.

    4. Re:Treat happiness like learning by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Apparently mentioning any company gives quite easily a shill accusation in Slashdot.

  36. Hang on a minute... by headfirstonly · · Score: 1

    A couple of years ago we were told that the brain was hard wired to be significantly over-optimistic (see this TIME article or Google "optimism bias" for more examples). Now we're told that the opposite is true? What gives?

  37. Isn't the answer obvious and given in TFA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whenever you recognize that you feel happiness, inflict yourself a really painful experience to bookmark it.

    Pain is a sort of "Enter" key.

    Now we just need something very painful, yet totally harmless. Capsaicin?

    1. Re:Isn't the answer obvious and given in TFA? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      That kind of makes sense, but wouldn't it also teach the body to avoid things that lead to happiness, because it has detected that those moments cause pain?

    2. Re:Isn't the answer obvious and given in TFA? by OdinOdin_ · · Score: 1

      Your comment makes sense, you have to anchor the moment to something not in the same axis as the target system pleasure/pain.

      Plus is the article makes sense you want to keep that happiness around a little longer to help push a few more items into long-term-storage, not sidetrack the brain into dealing with pain from peppers.

  38. Happiness & Pleasure by eulernet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The author is unable to differentiate happiness and pleasure !

    Pleasure comes when I have a good experience. Pain comes when I have a bad experience.

    Happiness is totally different !
    Happiness appears mostly after pleasure.
    For example, if I make love with my beloved partner, and I have an orgasm, I'll experience pleasure.
    After the orgasm, I feel happy, because I feel at peace with my partner.

    Happiness is simply a state of mind: I become happy when I'm in peace.
    Pleasure is external (or related to external stimuli), and happiness is internal.
    For example, when I meditate (=when I stop all my thoughts), I experience happiness.
    Happiness is so easy to reach that in fact nobody really wants happiness, because it's so boring: nothing happens.

    Everybody seeks pleasure, and pleasure always comes with pain.

    1. Re:Happiness & Pleasure by Zan+Zu+from+Eridu · · Score: 2

      The author is unable to differentiate happiness and pleasure !

      No, the author is very well able to differentiate happiness and pleasure. The brain is clearly wired for pleasure, it has an extensive reward system that can even be tricked into working overtime (leading to addiction).

      His point is that our brains have a natural bias towards storing and recalling negative experiences over positive experiences. We have evolved to immediately learn from physical and emotional pain because learning to avoid pain is a better survival strategy than learning to seek pleasure.

    2. Re:Happiness & Pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I become happy when I conquer fools like you by giving them a big wedgie and try to be all "happy" with their underwear all the way on their heads.

      My pleasure, your pain. Hey, now I'm happy! Thanks!!

    3. Re:Happiness & Pleasure by eulernet · · Score: 1

      I totally agree with your point, because we learn a lot more from failure (pain) than from success (pleasure).
      I'm still baffled why people avoid failure, when failure provides so much lessons (of course, small failures are preferred to big failures).

      But my point was about happiness, not about pain/pleasure.
      Why talking about happiness, when in reality the author talks about pleasure ?

      From the article:
      >And yet on the other hand, many people today would report that they have a fundamental sense of feeling stressed and pressured and disconnected from other people, longing for closeness that they don’t have, frustrated, driven, etc. Why is that? I think one reason is that we’re simply wasting the positive experiences that we’re having, in part due to modernity, because we’re not taking into account that design bug in the Stone Age brain that it doesn’t learn very well.

      And this is wrong !
      Positive experiences leave less traces than negative experiences in the brain, learning has nothing to do here, it's just memorization (and our brains are so buggy that some event may trigger some new fear or some superstition).

      Stress is simply a mental state, where the brain gets very agitated.
      Stress is the opposite of happiness.

      This is why so much people take drugs or drink, it artificially stops the brain's agitation.
      In modern society, we praise mental agitation: you never have to let your brain take a rest.
      Do you think that watching TV rests your brain ?

      >For me, by repeatedly taking in the good to grow inner strength, you become much more able to deal with the bad. For me, taking in the good is motivated by the recognition that there’s a lot about life is hard.

      And this won't work !
      Why ? Simply because you are still categorizing "good" and "bad".
      What happens when everything is bad, no matter how you see it ?
      How can you see some good when your whole family dies before your eyes ?
      The psychopath will say: I'll inherit !

      Also, the most miserable people are the ones who try to force themselves to be joyful, by smiling.

      How could you force yourself to be something that you are not ?

    4. Re:Happiness & Pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > For example, if I make love with my beloved partner, and I have an orgasm, I'll experience pleasure.
      > After the orgasm, I feel happy, because I feel at peace with my partner.

      If you only feel 'at peace with your partner' (and I imagine you're not talking about your inferior member) I'm not sure you're the best authority to define 'happiness' in this case, no? Since you apparently don't know what love is?

    5. Re:Happiness & Pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh, I was happy when I conquered your dad's butthole last night. Talk about pain!

    6. Re:Happiness & Pleasure by Guest316 · · Score: 1

      >pleasure always comes with pain.
      We have all eternity to know your flesh.

    7. Re:Happiness & Pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are clueless and so are 99% of commenters here and everywhere I find. Pretty sad.

  39. The Hedonistic Imperative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.hedweb.com

    Probably too scary for most Slashdotters to consider- a world with no more suffering, and no more unhappiness...

    1. Re:The Hedonistic Imperative by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      Sounds horrible.

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    2. Re:The Hedonistic Imperative by neminem · · Score: 1

      Oh, look, it's Pax. I vote no.

      "Sure as I know anything I know this, they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten, they'll swing back to the belief that they can make peopleâ¦better. And I do not hold to that."

  40. Choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Happiness is a matter of choice, not destiny.

    You can chose to be happy if you want to.

  41. Evolutionary advantage by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    I suspect that the difference here isn't just something trivial, but in fact something deeper and more hard-wired.

    The fact is that we learn far, far more in a basic survival sense from losing than winning. We learn more about what's dangerous, what to avoid, and what can hurt us from negative experiences than from positive....ergo, what are the experiences that need to go into deep-storage? Negative ones.

    We're programmed to remember bad stuff.

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    1. Re:Evolutionary advantage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there anything at all that can't be explained by evolutionary psychology? Personally, I'm starting to put these "explanations" in the same category as "God did it."

    2. Re:Evolutionary advantage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      programmed simply because dangers are more important for survival than pleasures. Pleasure is never a priority, danger is.

  42. Re:"Neuroscience" by justthinkit · · Score: 1

    Accentuate the positive,
    eliminate the negative,
    latch on to the affirmative,
    don't mess with Mr. In-Between.

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  43. Physical Punishment by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

    So basically this author just proved that spanking, caning, and wiping are the best learning techniques, and positive reinforcement is a baseless pseudo-science.

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  44. Is nicotine nootropic? by bjs555 · · Score: 1

    I'm happiest when I can think clearly. I'm also a cigarette smoker. I've noticed that I tend to reach for cigarettes when I'm reading or thinking about something complicated. Is there a connection? Is this true for anyone else? Does anyone with a pharmacological background know if nicotine is nootropic?

  45. Exceptional by justthinkit · · Score: 1

    An exceptional post (on an exceptional thread). Thank you.

    You might enjoy something I wrote about a father-son activity of my youth. Dad was a man of sparse words, who enjoyed his alone time for sure.

    I never would have thought so until now but, by your post's "definition", I am an introvert. [I thought I was just a "thinker", or someone trying to be. Maybe they are the same, or similar?]

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  46. Suck it, hippies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like a good argument for corporal punishment in children.

  47. Positive Reinforcement by pubwvj · · Score: 1

    This would seem to go against the very well supported and proven theory that positive reinforcement is more powerful than negative reinforcement in training.

  48. This is why happiness is so fleeting.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is why happiness is so fleeting: since survival is the optimized variable, happiness is only the force that achieve it so it is a quantity that is d/dt of any real variable. This is the only way to effect a proper, self-correcting differential equation. Because it's merely d/dt of something else, it MUST be fleeting and temporary - you must always have "motion" of the original variable to have any value of happiness itself. This pretty much agrees with empirical reality.