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Fuel Rod Removal Operation Begins At Tsunami-hit Fukushima
rtoz writes "TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company) has started removing fuel rods from a storage pond at the Unit 4 reactor building of Tsunami-hit Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear power station in Japan. The first of the fuel-rod assemblies at the plant's No. 4 reactor building was transferred from an underwater rack on the fifth floor to a portable cask. This step is an early milestone in decommissioning the facility amid doubts about whether the rods had been damaged and posed a radiation risk. 22 unused fuels will be moved to the cask a task which is planned to be completed by November 19. After being filled with fuel, the cask will be closed with a lid, and following decontamination, will be taken down to ground level and transported to the common spent fuel pool on a trailer. It is planned to take approximately one week from placing the fuel into the cask at the spent fuel pool to storing it in the common pool. The entire removal of all fuel inside the Unit 4 spent fuel pool is planned to take until the end of 2014."
Good. It's about time to get those fuel rods out of there.
The US needs Yucca Mountain. It's not perfect, but it's a lot better to have fuel rods inside a mountain than at reactor sites. After all, Yucca Mountain is in an area so isolated that it used to be used for above-ground testing of nuclear weapons.
Anyone else feels that any mistake would be like playing a giant underwater Mikado?
They keep saying "first we'll do this and then we'll do that" with the spent fuel.
But the one question no one seems able to answer is what you ultimately will do with all that toxic spent fuel. Simply speaking there is no answer, no plan for what to do with nuclear waste from any plant damaged or otherwise.
I realize this is hindsight but maybe the Ring of Fire isn't the best place to build nuclear reactors? Not that the Japanese have much option there if they want nuclear power.
...1512 to go. Watching this from my armchair on the west coast of North America, I can't help but feel extremely nervous about all this.
Nuclear reprocessing. Perfectly feasible, routinely performed in other countries, disallowed in the United States for purely political reasons.
Another great legacy of Jimmy Carter, one that's particularly ironic given his qualification in nuclear submarines, and the fact that he regarded Hyman Rickover as one of the people that most shaped his life.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
I keep seeing headlines that this is an extremely dangerous operation. As far as I can tell, the only thing dangerous about it is TEPCO is doing it. Those guys could fuck up a urine test.
They are just starting to move fuel assemblies which where removed from their reactors prior to the earthquake. Where it will be a good thing to get these things out of the leaky cooling pools the real work has still not started. It's not really going to be possible to start working on the reactors which melted down for a few more years. Even then, it won't be possible for humans to approach so the work will require invention of remotely operated tools that can deal with the unique situation, and tasks necessary to clean up this mess.
It took 14 years to decommission Three Mile Island after the accident there which was exceedingly less complicated because the containment structures where not blown open and there was only one reactor involved. We are decades away from being done here with multiple reactors at least partially melted down, sea water being used for coolant and the extensive damage to the containment structures.
This is a great start, but until they get all of the high level material into an inherently stable condition and/or offsite we won't be able to breath easy. Keep it going TEPCO."
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I didn't see the expected statement that these idiots will parade the hot rods through downtown Tokyo to reassure everybody they have the situation well under control.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
pls ignore
Boom!
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Hang on a moment, unused rods are non-radiating. They're *ready* to start working, but they won't start radiating until they're brought together in a core. That's called "criticality", or "going critical", which is a self-sustaining reaction.
Prior to core insertion, unused rods are handled in open air, without any shielding, and can even be touched without a problem. You definitely don't want to bring them close to another fuel bundle, nor do you want them anywhere near a neutron reflector.
That would be a Bad Thing.
The only way this would be a threat, is if any of the debris in the storage pool damages the fuel bundles. Such as bending them and bringing the rods within criticality range of each other. Or if some stray metal got down inside the storage slots, acting as a neutron reflector and creating a hot-spot.
Outside of that, unless I'm wrong about unused fuel not being hot, then this is just a scare story.
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The "common pool" at fukuhima is huge. like two story levels under water. ... else it itself could turn into a "reactor 4 fuel pool" problem only a magnitude larger?
no word yet on how much is already inside the "common spent fuel pool", but i'm guessing
it's a five digit number in tones (it's been there since the 70s?)
good thing this quickly moving dangerous stuff that can be reasonably safely moved from
30+ meters up to ground level, but the "common spent fuel pool" is not the end all solution at all.
i hope it is really solid