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Snowden Docs Show UK's Digital Spies Using Viruses, Honey Traps

An anonymous reader writes "At the start of this week, documents released by whistleblower Edward Snowden detailed DDOS attacks on chatrooms by a British online intelligence unit dubbed the Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group (JTRIG). Now he has released a new trove showing that JTRIG is about much more than purely online annoyances. According to the documents, released to NBC News, JTRIG's role is to "deny, disrupt, degrade and deceive" by any means possible. These techniques include destroying an individual's computer with a custom virus dubbed "Ambassador's Reception", setting up social media honey traps to harvest embarrassing information, actively attacking companies online and off, and planting data on people's systems."

92 comments

  1. Re:Running out of mod points by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, I won't make them money because I am allowed "to have ads disabled"...

    Even with ads disabled, you make them money by writing posts that others come to see. If the contributors cease to contribute, there will be no ad-viewing audience either.

    What upper management need to realize, is that without the contributors and deep discussions they have, Slashdot is nothing.

  2. reasonable doubt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "planting data on people's systems."

    I don't know what the laws are in the UK. I would imagine that could get many "cyber crimes" tossed. How can it be proven that any evidence wasn't planted now?

    1. Re:reasonable doubt? by richlv · · Score: 2

      so actually... slashdot media is not responsible for beta, it's JTRIG/GCHQ !

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      Rich
    2. Re:reasonable doubt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the Lord Protector's..Soviet..Nazi..Beta..Queen's England, all doubt is unreasonable.

    3. Re:reasonable doubt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Good question, all police forces are told to never plant evidence as this will invalidate all their cases that involve computer crimes, secret services evidence isn't allowed to be shown in courts though so they probably don't get to even challenge it, this smacks of a kangaroo court and people should stop burying their heads in sands and start paying attention to what Mr Snowden has to say..

    4. Re:reasonable doubt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point of planting data isn't to get individual thrown in jail (unless it's by confusing some other country's legal system). It sees they're planing information for other cyperintelligence people to find, in order to mislead them.

    5. Re: reasonable doubt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think u mean in "open court"

  3. Hilarious thought! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seeing a small group of plebs who actively troll 4chan. Then seeing that same small group all in a dimly lit room with a rinky-dink paper banner overhead entitled "JTRIG". Oh man, my sides!

  4. Homework Assignment For This Story by djupedal · · Score: 1

    The more people that repeatedly search on 'Ambassador's Reception', the more fun the security wonks will have trying to figure out why the spike and which ambassador :)

    1. Re:Homework Assignment For This Story by fridaynightsmoke · · Score: 1

      The more people that repeatedly search on 'Ambassador's Reception', the more fun the security wonks will have trying to figure out why the spike and which ambassador :)

      Of course they all want to watch this 'classic' tv ad... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

      Maybe the 'honeytrap' involved bribing people with offers of aspirational confectionary?

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  5. Re:Spy on me, AND give me a virus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It all makes perfecy sense once you realize who the beneficiaries and enemies really are.

  6. Planting Data? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Like say, Child Pornography?

    How the hell is planting data legal? When did we start seeing that framing people for prosecution and incarceration was acceptable in ANY way?

    1. Re:Planting Data? by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      When did we start seeing that framing people for prosecution and incarceration was acceptable in ANY way?

      The afternoon of 11th of September, 2001. Except now, we skip the incarceration and legal prosecution part and cut straight to the execution.

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    2. Re:Planting Data? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't. This is outside GCHQ's remit. They are a SIGINT agency.

  7. BETA FAIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    I too dislike BETA. However. has it occurred to no-one that regular Slashdot could probably be made to look like BETA in about 5 minutes in CSS (Minus the fail) thus proving that a re-write is completely unnecessary. There surely must be people frequenting this site that could do the job in 5 minutes? They need to fire the people that took as long as it has taken to write something as poor as has been produced AND fire everyone who thought it would be acceptable for BETA to be rolled out to production in it's current state.

    1. Re:BETA FAIL by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 0

      They want to make the site attractive to non-technical artsy folk, since we've been doing it wrong this whole time.

    2. Re:BETA FAIL by wjwlsn · · Score: 0

      They want to make the site attractive to non-technical artsy folk, since we've been doing it wrong this whole time.

      You don't know how right you are...

      http://slashdotmedia.com/under...

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    3. Re: BETA FAIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's such a cutesy, naive version of the internet. I see no snapchat, kik, youporn, redtube, etc.

      The only "product" that I share is my glorious genitals.

    4. Re:BETA FAIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's a sincere suggestion. If the PHBs are soooo sure that Beta is The Answer (not that anyone asked a question in the first place), then do the following:

      1. Make Beta the default interface for /.

      2. Leave the old interface in place at classic.slashdot.org.

      And see where the traffic goes. All the longtime users, like me, will go with classic, obviously, but how well will Beta catch on with newcomers?

      Let's see a little courage from the decision makers. Place your bet, and let's see how it plays out in the real world.

  8. What did shills say about "conspiracy nutters"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    How many times in the last twenty years did people try to warn you about the extent of operations by the establishment in the West? And how many times did the usual vile shills warn you to ignore the "tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nutters"? Indeed, how hard did the mainstream media work to discredit anti-government types in the dramas presented to the sheeple?

    Snowden has revealed that the forces of Obama and Blair go infinitely further than you might have imagined in your worst nightmares, and yet Snowden has not been allowed to even scratch the true surface of current projects that target the entire populations of nations.

    -You'll hear nothing from Snowden about the inBloom project set up by Bill Gates and Rupert "Fox News" Murdoch in the USA.
    -You'll hear nothing from Snowden about the creation and deployment of the NSA Kinect II spy platform in Microsoft's Xbox One console.
    -You'll hear nothing from Snowden about the intimate connection between Google and the NSA.
    -You'll hear nothing from Snowden about how all the 'self-driving car' nonsense is simply designed to groom the general populace to accept autonomous robotic war-machines.

    Snowden is an unwilling dupe- everything he leaks was carefully vetted, and represents what is known as an "INOCULATION PLOY". Citizens of previous authoritarian regimes, like East Germany, could explain. You see, in a ruthless police state, there is no point lying to the sheeple about the nature of the world they live in. Instead, you use propaganda to remind them that everything in their life is subject to police-state interference, and they better get used to the fact.

    In other words, you use aspects of the truth to inoculate them against dangerous 'concerns' about the nature of state abuses.

    "Yes, of course Obama spies on us, and of course I don't like it. But what are you going to do? Computers keep getting better, and the government is always going to use the toys available to it. Our kids will be so used to it, it won't even bother them."

    GET A CLUE, YOU CRETINOUS SHEEPLE. There is NOTHING to prevent the US Constitution from being amended to add fundamental Rights to Privacy that take precedence over all forms of potential pre-emptive full surveillance spying by the US government. And for the dirty dirty shills who will reply that such an amendment would hamstring the ability of the government to fight 'terrorism', let me ask you this.

    DOES THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION AGAINST HUMAN SLAVERY PREVENT THE GOVERNMENT FROM BEING ABLE TO SEND CONVICTED PEOPLE TO PRISON?

    The shills you see flooding forums like these at Slashdot would not bother if their actions were not effective to some degree. You sheeple, no matter how highly you regard your independence of thought, hold opinions 99.9% of which match those given to you by the mainstream media outlets you so cretinously trust.

    Let me ask you another question- if you are American with kids at school, what have YOU done to fight the inBloom spying operation on your children crafted by Gates and Murdoch? Have you visited your school to inform the management there that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES may they enter data about your children into Rupert "Fox News" Murdoch's database? Of course not. They win, and will always win, because the things you CAN do as a citizen, you find every excuse under the sun to NOT do.

    1. Re:What did shills say about "conspiracy nutters"? by Megol · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Go get medical treatment. You'll feel better and we don't have to read paranoid bullshit.

    2. Re:What did shills say about "conspiracy nutters"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The way things are going, frankly the GP is going to be conservative

    3. Re:What did shills say about "conspiracy nutters"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their not "conspiracy nutters" they are people who perceive themselves smarter than the normal person. They are the only ones capable of understanding the world. Facts become opinions and opinions become facts. Any facts contrary to supporting their point of view is immediately dismissed as lies and anyone brave enough to challenge their "facts" are immediately called shills. The most common way to promote their conspiracy theories is to provide multiple links to web sites that contain only content that supports their reasoning. But the sites linked to are just as devoid of facts as they are. To many people have come to the conclusion that the number of "likes" on their idiotic conspiracy theories means the bullshit they spew is factual and correct.

    4. Re:What did shills say about "conspiracy nutters"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go get medical treatment. You'll feel better and we don't have to read paranoid bullshit.

      Governments always trend towards tyranny. That is why the constitution is written the way it is. You are operating outside of reality if you think your particular government in your particular time and place is any different on this matter. Power corrupts.

      It is fact.

  9. Online state terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean the so called "good guys" are the ones engaging in the very acts they supposedly say they want to stop?

    Blackmail, vigilantism, "collateral damage". It's just awesome how free our society is these days when attacks on your infrastructure are perpetuated by individuals deemed above the law. And all they can do is say "it's red Chinese!" and now we know where the real damage is coming from. Or is it Chinese that are DDOSing FreeNode?

  10. Re:came here for the funny comments by richlv · · Score: 0

    so anti-beta movement is successful in showing the level of disappointment :)

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    Rich
  11. Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GCHQ are fucking deplorable.

    1. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GCHQ are fucking deplorable.

      Not deplorable, criminals with a capital C.
      Maybe France should lob a couple of nukes on that wretched island and do the world a favor.

  12. Re:Spy on me, AND give me a virus? by davester666 · · Score: 1

    you are wasting valuable computing resources, with your pointless surfing the internets, watching the porn, playing the games, when those resources could be used by your country to ferret out the enemy and bring him/her/it to justice.

    And fuck beta.

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  13. Re:Interesting read by roman_mir · · Score: 0

    Brits are behind everything, Beta included. In fact look over your shoulder right now, look over, chances are, there is a Brit there now. Now look at beta.slash...... the proof is in the pudding, brittish pudding.

  14. Typical Slashdot reader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, the typical Slashdot reader... Fat guy, not too young, ugly, insecure, spending too much time in front of a computer, no/little social life, low self-esteem but at the same time a false sense of superiority, completely awkward with girls, probably virgin, never leaves the basement, has used Linux since before Linus Torvalds...

    That's really a Beta guy!

  15. Re:Running out of mod points by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    SLASHDOT AS YOU KNEW IT IS FINISHED.....IT IS OVER.....One look at the slashdotmedia.com webpage will confirm that for you.
    If you cannot stomach the BETA redesign, if you really love the classic site layout so much, YOU MUST fork the site code and start another site such as what "AltSlashdot" are attempting to do....no if's or but's about this anymore !!!!! Personally speaking, I think it may be a good idea if Joel Spolsky (co-founder of StackOverflow) got involved.

  16. Re:Interesting read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eh, I blame Canada. In fact, lets ALL blame Canada! Blame Canada! Blame Canada...

  17. Holy shit beta. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the first time ive seen the beta (direct link from rss now even?) and i thought i ended up on some blogspam site. wtf is this shit???

    I feel sorry for registered users, and thats saying a lot... im just an AC and i allways will be, or maybe not if this shit doesnt die in a fire.

  18. Re:Running out of mod points by mikael · · Score: 2

    I am sure it would be possible for someone to create an Opera or Firefox plugin that filters downloads of slashdot beta articles and converts them back to slashdot classic.

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  19. Re: NSA Beta attack on /. community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "...and planting BETA on peoples systems.".

    FTFY ...Oh, and FUCK da /. BETA.

  20. Snowden should be given by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 3

    a ticker tape parade and $10 million dollars. His revelations are critically important to our time. It is imperative the US Govt heed him and his supporters, on both the left and the right. Because if they continuing pulling this evil bullshit, eventually, there will be another Snowden. Only, the next Snowden might not be so nice or thoughtful.

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  21. There goes ANY child porn conviction! by jraff2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Government now will be the goto excuse for anyone with any type of computer hackery, virus, trojan, malwear, etc. including ilicit images and pornography. I am not to blame, the Gov.; NSA, FBI, CIA, other TLAs used "Ambassador's Reception" (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/02/08/1438242/snowden-docs-show-uks-digital-spies-using-viruses-honey-traps) to put it on my compuer. Prove me wrong! The Gov. reply will be some form of "we can neither confirm nor deny"... End of case,

    1. Re:There goes ANY child porn conviction! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Government now will be the goto excuse for anyone with any type of computer hackery, virus, trojan, malwear, etc. including ilicit images and pornography. I am not to blame, the Gov.; NSA, FBI, CIA, other TLAs used "Ambassador's Reception" (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/02/08/1438242/snowden-docs-show-uks-digital-spies-using-viruses-honey-traps) to put it on my compuer. Prove me wrong! The Gov. reply will be some form of "we can neither confirm nor deny"... End of case,

      Wow, the shocking, _SHOCKING_ revelation that intelligence agency A plants false information when it knows intelligence agency B is looking, leads right into CP convictions being tossed.

      Are you guys really _that_ stupid?

      Captcha: 'tantrum' ... awesome.

  22. Re:Interesting read by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

    Beta = British extra-territorial attack?

    But I can assure you: The proof is not in the pudding. Just try to eat it.

    --
    The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  23. Fuck BETA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BETA sucks! I read the answer and it's like slashdot has been taken over by politicians.

  24. Re:Interesting read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The whole BETA site is a quantum insert attack as described already:

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/11/uk-spies-continue-quantum-insert-attack-via-linkedin-slashdot-pages/
    Der Spiegel suggests that the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), the British sister agency to the NSA, used spoofed versions of LinkedIn and Slashdot pages to serve malware to targets. This type of attack was also used to target “nine salaried employees” of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), the global oil cartel.

  25. Stop the redirect to "beta", easily by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Stop /. redirecting you to it @ least, by adding THIS to your hosts file:

    216.34.181.45 slashdot.org
    216.34.181.45 beta.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.46 images.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 it.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 developers.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 yro.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 mobile.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 news.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 ask.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 tech.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 apple.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 books.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 games.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 hardware.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 interviews.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 linux.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 science.slashdot.org
    216.34.181.48 idle.slashdot.org

    * :)

    THAT will block out their ability to redirect you to it whatsoever - Especially the 2nd line item from the top/BOLDED entry line above...

    (You're welcome)

    APK

    P.S.=> To import, sort, deduplication, create & manage a custom hosts file easily that does not only THAT (secures you vs. redirects @ the DNS or even site level), but also gives you more speed, security, reliablity, & even anonymity, use this (shameless plug, details of what custom hosts give you in FULL are listed here) -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ... apk

    1. Re:Stop the redirect to "beta", easily by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The beta does seem to be trash at the moment.
      Dearest admins, please please please, fix the fucker, before you decide
      to foist it upon your readership.

  26. Re:Oh, really? At least I give folks options by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's WHY I call "your kind" in this life, "not men".

    Check your privilege cis scum. Why are you so transphobic?

  27. Place CP on ones computer and by ralphaostrander · · Score: 1

    Say goodbye to them forever any means possible.

  28. Not In Custody == Didn't Happen by sethstorm · · Score: 0

    Until he and/or his accomplices(including Greenwald, who may face additional charges if he attempts to sneak in under a false identity) are facing charges in a US court, none of can be taken as truth.

    Taking the NSA's word is more reliable, especially when they've been more open than Snowden has been about the entire matter. The only mistake that has been made is the lack of aggressive pursuit to clean up loose ends.

    Modding this down the memory hole makes it no less true.

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    1. Re:Not In Custody == Didn't Happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Until he and/or his accomplices(including Greenwald, who may face additional charges if he attempts to sneak in under a false identity) are facing charges in a US court, none of can be taken as truth.

      Until they are silenced, they are lying? Not only that, why is a US court the deciding factor?

      Somehow facing charges is going to change the truth?

      You've sure got a nice thick pair of blinders on, makes you look ridiculous.

      The truth is what it is whether people are brought to justice or not. You might as well say until the NSA is dismantled they cannot be trusted. Why the double standard?

      Taking the NSA's word is more reliable, especially when they've been more open than Snowden has been about the entire matter

      Snowden gave us the NSA's word precisely because their word was not open. If it was not for Snowden, we would not have the NSA's word at all. Everything you have said has been a lie.

  29. "Rinse, Lather, Repeat" troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    * :)

    APK

    P.S.=> That's all I have to say to you & it certainly got a "rise" out of you, now didn't it? TRUTH always does - i.e.: You're just a useless troll, nothing more (& you KNOW it), "not man" (lol)...

    ... apk

    1. Re:"Rinse, Lather, Repeat" troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a worthless bigot.

    2. Re:"Rinse, Lather, Repeat" troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he's a worthless bigot (yet he supplies a useful free tool) then what does that make you, troll? Less than a worthless bigot is what. You/re a useless troll.

  30. I still see classic, no redirect to beta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's how: I don't have to accept it after this http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

  31. Err. Today is Feb 9th. I though you lot were boyco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Err. Today is Feb 9th. I though you lot were boycotting.

  32. "Now he has released a new trove"? by mtthwbrnd · · Score: 0

    I thought that he had handed it all over to the Guardian and that the Guardian had destroyed it all. How is "new" stuff being released by him?

  33. No, they will deny it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They plant it. Something goes wrong. You end up in court. They deny planting it, obviously! Sorry you are in jail, but it's for the greater good.