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Mesa 10.2 Will Feature Better Adreno Driver, OpenMAX, Cherryview Support

Via Phoronix comes news that Mesa 10.2 will be released in a few days with several interesting new features. Highlights include OpenGL 2.1 support for Freedreno (the driver for the Qualcomm graphics chips), video encoding and decoding on GCN Radeons using the new OpenMAX state tracker, and initial support for Intel's upcoming Cherryview Atom SoC. Progress is being made toward OpenGL 4 support, and the llvmpipe software rasterizer finally supports OpenGL 3.2. The release won't feature a few things: the Intel Sandybridge driver still does not support OpenGL 3.3, the R9 290 Radeons are still not working (despite claims by AMD a couple of years ago that cards starting with the Radeon 8000 series would be supported by the Free Software driver at hardware release time), and OpenCL support is still experimental.

21 comments

  1. nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > The release won't feature a few things: the Intel Sandybridge driver still does not support OpenGL 3.3

    $ lspci | grep VGA
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
    $ glxinfo | grep "shading language"
    OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 1.40
    OpenGL shading language version string: 1.30

    So, 3 year old laptop's gfx driver won't support Shader Model 4.1 available on Windows's driver since day-1?
    Well, perhaps next year :-)

    1. Re:nice by Kjella · · Score: 3, Informative

      So, 3 year old laptop's gfx driver won't support Shader Model 4.1 available on Windows's driver since day-1?
      Well, perhaps next year :-)

      Their OpenGL support on Windows is the same, so I guess your complaint is Linux doesn't have DirectX...

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    2. Re:nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > 3 year old laptop
      > Well, perhaps next year :-)

      Dude, just buy a new laptop already. $300 every 3 years is $8.33/mo or 27 cents/day. You probably spend more than that on other electronics that you don't use 8+ hours/day.

    3. Re:nice by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Even the new laptops containing Intel HD Graphics hardware would not provide anything higher than what he currently gets (GLSL 1.40 and OpenGL 3.1). His only option would be to get a machine with AMD or NVIDIA hardware, but that would break the $300 budget.

    4. Re:nice by DrXym · · Score: 1

      For all the praise Intel gets for supporting open source, their end user support for older graphics chipsets really sucks.

    5. Re:nice by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      For all the praise Intel gets for supporting open source, their end user support for older graphics chipsets really sucks.

      They don't own all of their older graphics chipsets. They are not legally permitted to support some of them properly.

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    6. Re:nice by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      They don't own all of their older graphics chipsets. They are not legally permitted to support some of them properly.

      That's still their fault for signing a deal mandating terrible customer service.

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    7. Re:nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just don't buy the Intel crap if you intend to run any 3D in it. If and when the OpenGL is used more in games, the Intel will have hard time selling their inferior GPUs to gamers. It is just unbelievable that a company at Intel size is not able to add support for OpenGL 3.3 introduced five years ago.

    8. Re:nice by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      That's still their fault for signing a deal mandating terrible customer service.

      And the buyers' for not finding out if that was the case before spending their money.

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    9. Re:nice by loufoque · · Score: 1

      A decent laptop costs $3,000, not $300, especially if you intend to use it 8+ hours/day.

    10. Re:nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's mostly a case of missing hardware that has to be emulated to get something compliant with GL3.3.
      See http://lists.freedesktop.org/a...

    11. Re:nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Err, what?
      Ivy Bridge and Haswell got GL3.3 support with mesa 10.0.
      It's just Sandy Bridge that's lagging behind because the GPU hardware is *broken*.

    12. Re:nice by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      And the buyers' for not finding out if that was the case before spending their money.

      No not really. Intel had a good rep for well supported drivers. Them they shat out the GMA500. There was no way to know they'd break with tradition until after support ceased about 3 minutes after it was released.

      Buyers neve have 100% information. That's why civilised countries have customer protection laws.

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    13. Re:nice by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Oh, thanks for the correction. How is the Sandy Bridge hardware broken?

  2. What is Mesa? by balaband · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:What is Mesa? by CurryCamel · · Score: 1

      http://xkcd.com/1053/
      Slipping into elitism is so easy. :(

    2. Re:What is Mesa? by Eunuchswear · · Score: 2

      Mesa

      What, you mean this isn't about Black Mesa?

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  3. Building or precompiled binaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems that whenever a new build comes out I re-attempt to build Mesa from scratch. I always run into dependency/compiler problems.
    libexpat-dev, x11proto-present-dev, x11-proto-dri3-dev dri3, llvm, libxml2-dev.

    I keep searching for pre-built libaries/dlls on Windows/Linux/Mac, but they seem elusive. Sometimes I need a stable software graphics driver that will run OGL 3+ on older hardware (just for dev sake).

    but hey, I'm sorta lazy, I'll wait for the debian stable release :)

    hmm CAPTCHA: deterred

  4. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Progress is being made toward OpenGL 4 support,

    *golf clap* How it must feel to be worse than even Apple at supporting OpenGL 4.x versions.

  5. Pretty Good by tuppe666 · · Score: 2

    *golf clap* How it must feel to be worse than even Apple at supporting OpenGL 4.x versions.

    To be fair, blissfully ignorant, as I am incredibly happy with Intel graphics on linux. I would care if I was interested in the BSD License, with Apple failing to follow the spirit of the license...but then here is the real truth.

    Here is back last year when Linux outperformed Apple http://www.phoronix.com/scan.p...

    Here it is this year still performing faster on Apple hardware http://www.phoronix.com/scan.p... ,,,in the case of one 10year old engine 20 times faster.

    Your troll comment only serves to exposes weak software...and its "short arms...deep pockets" open source mentality on its overpriced hardware...it is pretty though.