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Opera Releases a New Version For Linux
motang (1266566) writes "Opera released Opera 24 for Linux. Currently it is in testing (developer) mode, and only for 64-bit Ubuntu, but hey it's a start since everyone thought Linux support was abandoned. In my test it is pretty rough around the edges, only has ambiance theme as it has been hard coded, and all the window controls are on the right and not on the left like what Unity has. But it is a start."
Instead of having firefox which wants to be chrome, or running chrome directly... I can now run a wrapper around chrome!
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I wonder which Opera Execs received the goodies from google for them to fold their companies uniqueness/any reason to exist.
Still using Older versions of Opera until web incompatibility forces a full time change(google and ebay is good at that, making simple buttons and forum functions not work without proprietary/newer crap.
Those developers have to keep themselves busy. I mean there are only so many times you can masturbate in one day, you know? Gotta fill the rest of the time somehow.
Instead of having firefox which wants to be chrome, or running chrome directly... I can now run a wrapper around chrome!
I'm still running Opera 12 for Mac OS for precisely this reason. I had no clue about this retarded Opera gambit until I auto-upgraded to Opera 15 one day and suddenly found that all the Opera features I knew and loved were missing with no plans to port them.
What's with the state of the browser market? It seems to go through great cycles... there was a early burst of diversity in the mid 90's, but that zenith was supplanted by the nadir of the IE monoculture (we are still feeling the effects of IE 6). Early versions of Firefox represented a bloom of reinvigorated innovation (such a variety of add-ons!) but firefox was eventually slowed by bloat and the demons of its single-process paradigm. Chrome then seized the mantle of stability via its multi-process approach.
Now, "do-no-evil" Google has established another monoculture. I almost ragequit using Chrome last Friday when I learned it is now impossible to install any Chrome extensions on Windows Chrome without using a Google account. WTF?
These are bad times for browser users. I await the beginning of the next great cycle. I hope to be inspired by the next innovator. "Disruptive" is a cliched term, but god damn it, this monoculture needs to die.
Point well made.
On Linux, it also seems to be impossible to install chrome extensions without a Google account. At least open-source firefox doesn't require registration just to make use of its open-source extension code. Mozilla also works to protect users against extensions that aren't kept up-to-date..
You can't be ahead of the curve, if you're stuck in a loop.
I mean there are only so many times you can masturbate in one day, you know?.
There are?
Just yesterday I decided to abandom Opera after about 15 years of exclusively using it (trying out Firefox for now). Been using opera 12 up until now, but can't stay on an unmaintained platform forever. And Opera's google-based versions after that smell badly. They've completely lost their reason to exist when they just clone the other browsers and remove all the features that made them the most user-friendly browser out there.
So long Opera, and thanks for all the fish.
Share with us your lubricating secrets, Fap King.
"like what Unity has"
And... I stopped reading.
Honestly, as a life-long Opera user and supporter, Opera is dead on all platforms. They refuse to make it work like it used to (or are incapable of that), and there hasn't been an update since the 15 series that actually did anything, and most of those updates broke stuff.
They are trying to play catch-up from an unnecessary code-base change to what they used to have. The coding team has changed. The company has changed. There is no interest in preserving users any more. Bug reports get answered with "We haven't got around to that yet" or "We never intend to put that functionality back in.
I was there in the pay-for days. I was there in the ad-supported days. I was there right up until last year, when the company that I defended against others changed and the software I used everyday became unusable. They removed every major feature that did something useful, so it's now a very, very poor Chrome clone.
Opera supporters will tell you to stay on the old codebase. We hoped the company would see sense and start re-using that codebase after they realised their catastrophic mistake. It never happened. The only patches they ever put out to the "real" Opera codebase broke it along the way, presumably because they just don't understand the code at all.
Save yourself the effort - find another browser. There's even a "Let's rebuild Opera as it was" open-source effort doing what Opera SHOULD have done if they wanted a Chrome renderer in there. But, sorry, despite my best attempts to resuscitate it and even exhume it, it's dead.
The new Opera is even worse in this regard. They have made it impossible to get rid of google search or to set your own search engine as default. They force google search upon you. Even Chrome doesn't do that.
Firefox has had a sessions plugin for years already, that I couldn't live without. The closest thing I found to use in Chrome can't hold a candle to it:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-...
Another extremely useful FF extension is called Scrapbook, which I use to collect and prioritize web pages, sometimes ads I am interested in, saving only the precise HTML part I want to my disk, note-like. It also saves a link to the original source, which may or may not disappear as time passes.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-...
Not to mention Adblock Plus, FireBug, bla bla bla.
You can't be ahead of the curve, if you're stuck in a loop.
Who cares. You wouldn't understand the extremely complex code of a modern web browser anyway.
Fleshlight.
You're welcome.
Like every cool app there, themes are at the top of the list. Fuck the rest of the functionality. Fuck that I want to use the app for its core function. Themes is what I _need_ man... Without themes, I'll give your app a rating of one, and moan about it.
Fuck the themes. Make the app do what I need, and let me run a bare metal version of it if I want. I don't want any fucking bells and whistles!
Why wont they just give up and do something else ?
The upside is that Opera is developed by a Norwegian company and is closed source, so NSA cannot inject any backdoors in it.
awesome! but does it have bookmarks? I.E. a bookmark menu. not a bookmark bar.
It's a pity that I completely uninstalled Opera some months ago, after waiting several months with vague promises and excuses about a coming release. It was mostly a secondary browser for me, so I didn't lose much sleep purging it. It also has lost a lot of the features that enticed me in the first place.
Now that it's finally here, I'm not sure I can muster up the effort to install it. Maybe I'll wait a year... or maybe longer.
With more than 300 million active users and counting I'd say there are about 300+ million uses for it.
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There are old Opera users who agree with your opinion. From what I can see, most don't. Then there's the vast majority of the potential market who don't.
You won't agree with this but with the limited resources from Opera Software and the web again diverging from WWW standards, there was no real alternative.
What all the moaning is about is the slow pace of development. Time lacking features (O15+) goes slower than time where those features were introduced (O10-O12).
What I greatly regret is the end of work on the Presto version of Opera Mobile. Having a tabbed browser that would run in 128MB is a great boon on mobile devices.