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SteadyServ Helps Keep the Draft Beer Flowing (Video)

"With iKeg's Technology We Guarantee You Will Never Run Out of Beer," boasts the SteadyServ website. As you listen to interviewee Mike Flockenhaus, though, you'll realize almost immediately that SteadyServ isn't making equipment for home use, but for bars and taverns that serve draft beer. Here's another good line from their site: "With the new iKeg® system, we aim to ensure that you get your beer, in the right place, at the right time. We also want to simplify the lives of all the hard-working people in the beer industry. After all, wanting and having your beer are not the same thing." Even better, it looks like they're hiring. Wouldn't it be wonderful to help keep America from running out of draft beer? (Alternate Video Link)

48 comments

  1. I was getting ready to complain this was an ad by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Then I saw it was a roblimo video, and I realized that was a redudant statement.

    Seriously guy, can you stop with videos loaded with effusive praise for uninteresting products?

    1. Re:I was getting ready to complain this was an ad by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      And put controls back in the video player. WTF is this facebook?

  2. I think you should put a "this is an ad" type icon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    or disclaimer on these things.

  3. Paid advertisement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder how much SteadyServ had to pay for this. Put the keg on a scale, truly a technological marvel.

    1. Re:Paid advertisement by pspahn · · Score: 3, Funny

      With iKeg's Technology We Guarantee You Will Never Run Out of Beer

      The only time I run out of beer, I've likely already had enough. I don't see this as a problem inherent to beer.

      you'll realize almost immediately that SteadyServ isn't making equipment for home use, but for bars and taverns that serve draft beer.

      If you told me someone was selling draft beer supplies (or whatever this crap is), my first assumption would be that it was for bars and taverns, not for home use. Thanks for taking time to point out the obvious.

      With the new iKeg® system, we aim to ensure that you get your beer, in the right place, at the right time.

      This sounds like the way I already get my beer. I can't say I ever get a beer in the wrong place, at the wrong time. Can you also make the beer a liquid?

      We also want to simplify the lives of all the hard-working people in the beer industry.

      Not to trash on bartenders or anything, but grabbing a class, putting it under a tap, and pulling the lever for about 8-10 seconds already sounds quite simple. I actually can't think of too many jobs that pay as well as bartending that are much simpler. Yes, it's hectic on a Friday night, but you're still just pouring beer.

      Wouldn't it be wonderful to help keep America from running out of draft beer?

      I already addressed this, but it is clear that you're not getting it. There is plenty of draft beer available. If you live in a place where there are only three available choices on tap, I feel for you, but I can already go across the street and order a pint from a selection of about 15 local beers, along with the standard selection of decent beers available at any proper bar. I have yet to go to the bar and have them tell me, "Sorry, we don't have any beer today."

      From the summary, I get the impression that the marketing drone that wrote this doesn't actually have an idea of what beer is.

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    2. Re:Paid advertisement by ncc74656 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If you told me someone was selling draft beer supplies (or whatever this crap is), my first assumption would be that it was for bars and taverns, not for home use. Thanks for taking time to point out the obvious.

      I take it you don't know any homebrewers, then. Kegging is a hell of a lot easier than bottling. That said, the usual insurance against a keg running out is...wait for it...having a second keg on tap. Cheap and low-tech.

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    3. Re:Paid advertisement by pspahn · · Score: 1

      Actually, I know a lot of home brewers. Why are you assuming this and what does this have to do with my previous statement?

      What you are saying amounts to, "because you believe that more draft beer supplies are sold to bars/taverns than home brewers, you must not know any home brewers." If my statement was reversed, would you assume I'd never been to a bar?

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    4. Re:Paid advertisement by John3 · · Score: 1

      This system is for regular kegs, but home brewers almost always use soda kegs which are far smaller. The video mentions as small as 30 liter kegs, but the soda kegs used by home brewers are 5 gallon which is about 19 liters. The OP was probably being overly snarky without knowing the details of keg sizes. Note that there are people that have keg systems at home for personal use, but that is for commercial kegs. I doubt those home users would want to spend the money to support this system.

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    5. Re: Paid advertisement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you missed the point. This isn't about having beer, it's about having the beer that the customers want, when they want it. Although I trend to agree that putting a scale under the beer keg isn't earth shattering, it's clever enough when coupled with the other technology to enable bar owners and staff to keep a real-time eye on the status of their beer kegs. I've been to plenty of bars that have just run out of the particular beer that I happened to want and it is annoying when I have to go to a second choice or go to another bar/tavern to get the beer I want. In any case, despite your obvious criticisms, it appears that this product would actually help streamline the tracking/ordering/inventory process and provide better customer service by having the most profitable beers always available.

  4. News for nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  5. Failing to give a shit. by Chas · · Score: 0

    I dunno.

    As a teetotaler, I simply don't give a damn.

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    1. Re:Failing to give a shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I drink once in awhile and I still don't give a damn.
      "Them geeks and their beer sure are inseparable am I right? Hey where's the arduino in this thing? How could it possibly work without an arduino?"

  6. I don't get it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clearly not an ad because /. doesn't hold a target market, and the production is terrible.
    While technology related, I wouldn't call putting a scale under a keg to be earth shattering.
    Additionally, given how many buzzwords the guy uses it's really lite on content (every time he says Cloud take a drink!)

    Makes me wonder what the editors are drinking...

    1. Re:I don't get it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Makes me wonder what the editors are drinking...

      Why, they're drinking only the finest: Endless Fresh Beer, from the revolutionary iKeg® by SteadyServ®!

  7. I do my part by bobdehnhardt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One 5-gallon batch at a time. And so far, I too have never run out.

    1. Re:I do my part by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

      ++ Would read again.

      I've got a porter and an ale bubbling away at home, as we speak. Bonus: Don't throw away the spent grains! Make bread instead!

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    2. Re:I do my part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it does make great bread, but as I brew every 2-3 weeks, and use 10lbs of dry grain each time, I dont eat that much bread. Most of it goes to the chickens.
      side note, I havent ran out either since building a new kezzer, 2 taps but holds 3 corny kegs.

    3. Re:I do my part by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      But does your process scale? While everyone's requirements may be different, here's another technology so beer drinkers can stress less about ever running out of beer. These were the best images I could easily search for to cite my point. We already *have* the technology people!

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    4. Re:I do my part by bobdehnhardt · · Score: 1

      It will scale up to 100 gallons/year, which is the legal limit in the US for homebrewing. That's 20 batches, or 1.6667 per month. Put it another way, it's 960 bottles of beer on the wall. That's more than enough scaling for me.

    5. Re:I do my part by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      I don't know how they do it now, and I never fully understood how the cook went as it was above my pay grade and housing, but I recall super-clean 32 gallon (or so) plastic trash cans w/lids in Saudi Arabia full of beer stuff & yeast as part of the process which I'll abbreviate. Mind you all of that stuff you might have heard about 'compounds for expats' did *not* apply in this place. When/if a room air conditioner conked out, a *serious* condition exists. Since a passer-by walking past the residence would hopefully notice the non-working A/C unit where a window might otherwise be if no one was home, certain folks knew to make calls discretely and illicit an immediate response. Yes, failures and exploding, smelly beer bottles did happen. Oh those were wild and sometimes, too many times, they were stressful times. To my knowledge, none of us from back then have taken up the hobby at home since. Don't think anyone wants to recall the stress, let alone the labor. But I do appreciate it when someone takes such care to cook, along with their skill and techniques. I also like the easily availability of good, cold beer in civilized countries. Wine too! (Don't get me started on how we made wine either, I really, really like store bought wine now!)

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  8. You know it's coming: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The lawsuit from Apple for selling anything as "i-anything"

  9. Trademark suit incoming.... by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 1

    iKeg system, huh? Apple trademark suit starting in 3......2.......1....

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  11. Why is this on /.? by msauve · · Score: 2

    It's not even free, as in beer.

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  12. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the fuck is this story? Why is it here?

  13. SLASHVERTISMENT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a fucking joke of a SLASHVERTISMENT!!!! The editors have reached a fucking new low in the "give a fuck" department. and FUCK BETA!!!!

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    Another Slashvertisement brought to you by Dice.

  15. Beer drinker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was skeptical at first but now I am quite interested. It is much more than an inventory system. The information that comes from the sensor is the weight/remaining volume of the keg and the name of the beer in the keg. One of the trends in pubs is to have different beers on any any one time. Here are a few things that the sensor and associated infrastructure can facilitate.
    1. Up to the minute beer menu for the pub.
    2. Notification when a new beer comes on line.
    3. Able to search pubs for specific beer on tap.
    4. Ability to link keg contents with more information about the beer so I can better decide what to drink.

    I live in Victoria BC and there are four pubs within blocks of each other that have an average of about 30 taps each. Most of them are different. Between them I would say there are probably 60 different beers and changing all the time. If these pubs subscribed to this service it would be quite helpful to me. People should get out and drink better beer.

    1. Re:Beer drinker by TC+(WC) · · Score: 1

      All of those can be done with a guy spending two seconds typing in the name of new beers when they come in.

      Also, St Augustine's in Vancouver does the whole live update menu thing and has for years. They have it over the bar and on screens over the urinals in the bathroom. I'm assuming they have flow meters or some other type of instrumentation set up.

      http://staugustinesvancouver.c...

      Looks like they turned over a hell of a lot of kegs recently for whatever reason.

  16. Endless beer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "you'll realize almost immediately that SteadyServ isn't making equipment for home use"

    Speak for yourself lightweight.

  17. They've invented WiFi scales by Whiternoise · · Score: 2

    It's a nice idea for a product, but there's the usual marketing fluff covering what it really is: Bathroom scales hooked up to the internet to weigh kegs.

    I'm not entirely sure what the point is. If you buy a keg, it's in your inventory (hopefully) and you know how many pints are in it. Surely you set up your system so that once you've sold X pints of Y beer, the POS system says "Hey buddy, we're about to run out!" and can either order a new keg for you or indicate that you should get a new one. You replace the keg and hit a button that says 'new keg', enter the capacity and you start again. All of this data can be logged to an internal database.

    For a start a POS system is cheaper, it can be done offline and the data is quite literally down to the second because you can log when someone buys it. You don't need to record how heavy the keg is at 5 minute intervals when you have ~500ml precision down to the second.

    Now if you're a brewery then point is that this updates to the cloud and you can see when your beer is being sold - cool - but why can't this be done with a simple 'smart POS' system? And again, you'd have exact sales figures down to the minute or daily (really, do you care about figures that fine grained? on the time scale of brewing that's nothing). The big bummer I see here is that you're relying on the establishment to do the leg work for you. They have to install this system so you get your data.

    "Especially with the microbrewer, they need to make checks to measure frequently because they canÃ(TM)t rely on how many millions of units they are shipping.''

    Was that sarcasm? Surely you know that you sold X kegs to Y town and they're chomping at the bit for more...

    1. Re:They've invented WiFi scales by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to watch the POS activity closer. You will usually see a combination of things that make tracking real consumption difficult. Many are setup generically to handle about 4 beers, e.g. bottle, import, draft, and import draft which means you can't distinguish Bud Lite from MGD or Shiner from Guinness. Even if there are specific settings, staff will often select the easiest one at the correct price and don't always ring in comps. This system should help quantify sales and identify areas to audit.

  18. This looks great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This looks like a great product. Desgined to hold a keg over a drain, wirelessly sends weight to the desk of the person who orders refills. Would work great in a hotel, where the server never touches the keg, the restaurant manager never has to go to the kegs to see if they need replacing, and the delivery guy knows the keg he is to replace is empty or empty enough. Have it timestamp its messages and you can also display how long ago the keg was installed (when the measurement when back up to 45 lbs)

    If I ran a restaurant or hotel I would use these.

  19. Astroturf much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too obvious.

  20. In unrelated news... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

    With the new iKeg system, ...

    Seriously not to be confused with the iKegel system.

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  21. I'm a brewer by MyNicknameSucks · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm a brewer. I go to lots of bars, speak to lots of bar managers and owners, and poke around lots of beer fridges.

    First, high volume bars, if they want metrics, install flow meters on draft lines. The sophisticated ones communicate with the PoS and report when the beer is flowing and how much. If the server's pouring freebies, the system will know and rat on the bartender. The system also knows if a brewer is shorting their kegs or is making foamy (over-carbonated) kegs that lead to spillage. Managers love that. Second, the meters are integrated into the lines so there's no ****ing around with flying saucers; you will always get the right data for your taps. Always. Third, most beer fridges are wet, dank pits. No one likes spending time in them. Telling bar staff to pick up a keg that weighs upwards of 150lbs and place it on a disk is ... hopeful. Telling bar staff to perform the same maneuver on a disk stuck in a keg fridge? That's borderline stupid. Those saucers are going to get punished.

    Also, it's not rocket science to keep a few extra kegs around if you're managing 30 taps; you, by definition, have lots of storage. And if 4 or 5 lines blow without replacement? That is not a big deal. In fact, some bars won't replace blown kegs after dark because it makes them look busier (no, seriously, I've seen this in action) and helps to push people to less popular brands.

    Seriously? Has this guy worked in a brewery ... or a bar ... recently?

    1. Re:I'm a brewer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Okay, I'm a bar owner. In broad terms, you are correct, no one is likely to sign onto this system.

      A few things you are not correct about, though:

      No keg (in the US) weighs more than 110 lbs.

      There's no such thing as 'overcarbonated' kegs. Bar kegs require an external CO2 tank. There's nothing but beer in a bar keg. When it's running too foamy, it's a problem with the CO2 tank regulator (mostly; other factors are in play too).

      Consumer kegs ARE sold pressurized/carbonated. That is probably the confusion here. So frat-boy kegs and watering-hole kegs are different animals. Which has caused hilarity over the years. I hope the frat boys / thugs that stole 2 of my kegs a few years were thoroughly flustered when it came time to try and drink them.

    2. Re:I'm a brewer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > And if 4 or 5 lines blow without replacement?

      If they're exploding you've got the CO2 pressure too high. Way too high.

    3. Re:I'm a brewer by beernutmark · · Score: 2

      Umm... AC bar owner. You are 100% wrong. The kegs you buy ARE pressurized/carbonated. Kegs of beer are not like bag in a box soda. The kegs come fully carbonated. There is no difference between consumer and commercial kegs. The external CO2 tank (and hopefully you are really using either brew gas or a blender with separate co2 and nitro tanks) is used to push the beer out and keep the keg under pressure and thus carbonated as it is dispensed.

    4. Re:I'm a brewer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A bar that cant be arsed to replace kegs when it is not busy is a bar that I cant be arsed to go into.

    5. Re:I'm a brewer by MyNicknameSucks · · Score: 1

      The standard Beer Store keg in Ontario is 58l (half barrel). That's 58 (give or take) kilograms of beer + the weight of the keg. That's closing in on 150 pounds.

      If you think your kegs aren't carbonated, I have a quick test for you. Give the keg a few shakes, or roll it on the floor for a couple minutes. Take your coupler, shut off the gas to it. Attach to it a new keg. Most Sanke D couplers (at least the good ones) have blow-off valves (it's a safety feature so that the keg doesn't go BOOM! if things reach over 100PSI or so). It usually looks like a ring. Pull it open -- I will personally guarantee that you will first hear the gas leak. And then see foam. Gushing. Beer can only hold about 1 volume of CO2 (per volume of beer) -- the other 1.5 volumes typical for a beer keg will energetically fly out, taking some beer with it.

      Less entertaining, you can simply hook up the coupler to the keg and open up the tap. Depending on the length of your draft run (this will work on a short run, where your line pressure is about 8 PSI), you'll be able to slowly pour beer as, again, the CO2 comes out of solution and pulls some beer with it. Warning: if you do this, the rest of the keg will be flat unless you crank up the PSI to 20 with a CO2 (not beer gas) tank or so for a few hours to force CO2 back into solution in the beer.

      There are "beer in a box" systems that carbonate flat beer on the fly, but they're exceptionally rare.

      FWIW, a huge part of pulling the perfect pint is to control the pour so that you get enough CO2 coming out of the beer to form a decent head. Too hard / too fast, too much foam. Too gentle / too slow, not enough; the bubbles will come out with time (or gentle shaking), however.

    6. Re:I'm a brewer by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2

      Ok, "bar owner", you must not also be the bartender or manager. There is no difference between "consumer" and "bar" kegs. All kegs come pressurized AND require an external CO2 tank. (Though some people use air pumps since they do not have CO2 equipment. Anyone doing this looks like a amateur frat-boy, just use bottles and cans for crap's sake.)

      If the beer contained no head-space, there would be no way to get it pressurized. And if there was oxygen in the head-space it would cause the beer to go bad...fast. (see frat-boy example above) And if it contained CO2 in the head-space but was no under pressure it would take forever to get it pressurized when a keg is exchanged.

      Lastly, kegs with different styles of beers have different weights. And if you do overcarbonate it, it will weigh more. If you really do own a bar, you must only serve shit light beers.

      Seriously, have you ever actually picked up a keg or swapped out a sankey? Do you notice there is no giant inrush of gas when the connector is hooked up? Have you ever accidentally not had the CO2 turned on when the sankey hooks up and notice that pressure rushes FROM the keg back into the line? (And if the beer was foamy from being jostled, foam goes up into your CO2 line, which is a serious pain in the ass.)

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  22. Draft Beer?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's draught beer, you fucking spelling reformists!!

    1. Re:Draft Beer?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is America so get with it.
      Most mass produced liquid that is called 'Beer' is really far from the case (when compared to German Beer Laws)
      The only accurate thing about 'Draft Beer' is the chill you get from drinking the far too cold crap.

  23. I worked in bars by houghi · · Score: 2

    This is a product that solves a problem that isn't there. When you are drafting, you will imediatly notice when the keg is almost empty. You then either have a second keg already available or just switch the keg.

    This is done even in high-volume places like music festivals all over Europe.

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    1. Re:I worked in bars by swb · · Score: 1

      For some reason, I would have expected some kind of automatic valve system that would allow multiple kegs to be connected at once, switching over to the next keg when one went empty.

      There are a lot of high-volume bars with few taps, I can't imagine the nuisance of constantly switching over to new individual kegs.

    2. Re:I worked in bars by beernutmark · · Score: 1

      That system can easily be implemented using a series hookup with existing equipment. The downside is that all the kegs need to remain hooked to the system to get flow (you can't simply hook up one coupler). As you say it is really only helpful for very high volume locations with few taps. Here is an example of how to hook it up. http://www.bbssystems.com/kegs...