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NASA Cancels "Sunjammer" Solar Sail Demonstration Mission

An anonymous reader writes "Space News reports that NASA has cancelled its solar sail demonstration mission (also known as Sunjammer) citing "a lack of confidence in its contractor's ability to deliver." "Company president Nathan] Barnes said that in 2011 he reached out to several NASA centers and companies that he believed could build the spacecraft and leave L'Garde free to focus on the solar sail. None of those he approached — he only identified NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California — took him up on the offer. Rather than give up on the opportunity to land a NASA contract, L'Garde decided to bring the spacecraft development in house. It did not work out, and as of Oct. 17, the company had taken delivery of about $2 million worth of spacecraft hardware including a hydrazine tank from ATK Space Systems of Commerce, California, and four mono-propellant thrusters from Aerojet Rocketdyne of Sacramento, California."

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  1. The Wind from the Sun by rossdee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And in related news, an earthquake was reported in Sri Lanka

    (A.C. Clarke turning in his grave)

    1. Re:The Wind from the Sun by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      In the mean time, you can still listen to this.

      (Yes, Mike Oldfield is an Arthur C. Clarke fan in case you hadn't guessed.)

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  2. Ouch by mbone · · Score: 1

    A vote of no confidence. I remember when NASA canceled the USNO FAME satellite - they said it was over the budget, but really it was over the management team. I expect that there is something similar here - fortunately, there is still NASA Marshall's Solar Scout, which is much smaller and cheaper than the Sunjammer.

    1. Re:Ouch by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      while that was an absolutely stupid thing to do, its not really relevant to the topic at hand here now is it??

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    2. Re:Ouch by mbone · · Score: 2, Informative

      while that was an absolutely stupid thing to do, its not really relevant to the topic at hand here now is it??

      It's not even really true; it's just bamboozlement for people who want to be bamboozled. If you listen to the actual fracking interview, he says that his goals, on this particular trip to the Middle East include outreach to the Muslim world, including reminding them in their role in the development of science. That is a non-surprising goal for an official trip to a particular region. I have a news flash - at the recent IAC meeting, he congratulated the Indians on the initial success of their MOM Mars mission. I suppose the Telegraph will take offense of that too.

      I have met Mr. Bolden several times, and had the opportunity to see him in action. He is an excellent NASA administrator who is seriously focused on "boots on Mars," not self-esteem initiatives.

    3. Re:Ouch by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      NASA is tasked for Muslim outreach to make them feel better after putting infidel footprints all over their moon god.

      you don't know much about islam do you?

    4. Re:Ouch by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      First of all: in all cultures where the moon is a deity (hint, get that noun I used) it is a 'Goddess' and not a God.
      And muslims (so are the believers in the religion called Islam are called) believe in the same god as Jews and Christians.
      Shocked? Then get a damn education. Idiot!

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    5. Re:Ouch by cusco · · Score: 2

      Uh, no. On one trip by one administrator to the Middle East in one interview he mentioned that was one of several goals of that one trip. I realize that's not quite the spin that Fox News put on it for you, but that's the truth. Sorry.

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    6. Re:Ouch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then why did they need to invent a whole new religion?

    7. Re:Ouch by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 0

      That sounds about as useful as "knowing much about astrology". :-p I'm also quite sure there are people who have comic book stories memorized. It must be fun, hiding from the real world, judging from how many people do that.

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    8. Re:Ouch by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Why did the Christians?

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    9. Re:Ouch by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Yeah, this is a hilarious non-sequitur reaction that you're guaranteed to get from most Muslims...

      X: "This Allah guy sure is a major douchebag."

      A Muslim: "Actually, it's the same as your Christian god, so shut up, you ignorant moron."

      ...they usually don't realize the major fallacies involved in that response.

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    10. Re: Ouch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because they were fed up with having their foreskin sliced off and all that crap about kosher shit and stuff. Basically Christians are Jews 2.0 with far less legacy code.

    11. Re:Ouch by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      They profess to believe in the same God as Jews and Christians, but they don't believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God, they believe he was another prophet like Mohammed - that means that they don't actually believe in the same God as Christians, they believe in a much earlier Judeo God, which is essentially the Jewish God.

      In essence, the Muslim faith is a branch off of Judaism rather than Christianity, as they flat out reject the basic tenant of Christianity. This is important because the Christian faith believes that the Jews have essentially rejected the new covenant, and won't make it into heaven through their current path, so Christianity views Islam in the same way - they might indeed worship the same God, but they worship him under an older set of rules which no longer apply - Christianity has its path to salvation well defined as being through Jesus, which both the Jewish and Islamic faiths have rejected.

    12. Re:Ouch by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      I have met Mr. Bolden several times, and had the opportunity to see him in action. He is an excellent NASA administrator who is seriously focused on "boots on Mars," not self-esteem initiatives.

      Thank you for your insight. I am really pleased to hear that

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    13. Re:Ouch by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      That is only true for the "catholic" wing of Christianity.

      The protestants reject the "holy trinity" ... there is only god, and ofc Jesus as his son, but Jesus simply was a mortal like the muslims see it.

      On the other hand, who am I to care? I'm an atheist ... and as far as I can tell: if you follow the ten commandments and Jesus Idea for god it won't matter if you really worship him or simply live a good life.

      So regardless how it turns out in the end, I certainly will be either simply dead ... or in heaven.

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    14. Re:Ouch by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      You need to retake religious studies :) Seriously, your entire understanding of Christianity is wrong.

      Catholicism is Christianity in entirety - it has essentially two main branches, Roman Catholic, and Protestant (or Church of England based Christianity, and also includes most other non-Roman Catholic Christian branches such as Baptists, Methodist etc, which are all offshoots of the CoE branch). But both sit under the label of Catholicism.

      Protestants most certainly believe in the Holy Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Ghost, and while they believe Jesus was mortal, that forms the basis of being able to rise from the dead - his divinity after crucifixion comes from him conquering death and rising again. Oh, and they most definitely believe he is the Son of God.

      Your idea of how salvation occurs is also completely broken for both branches of Catholicism - simply leading a good life won't get you any brownie points, you have to believe in Jesus Christ and the fundamental tenet that he died for humanities sins on the cross.

    15. Re:Ouch by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      I'm raised protestantian, as Martin Luther defined it.
      Certainly there is no trinity.

      And you should perhaps check your definition of protestants, they are not a subbranch of catholicism ;D

      Oh, and they most definitely believe he is the Son of God.
      Ofc he is, I said so in my previous post. But the main difference versus catholicism is: he is not god like, but a mere mortal. That is exactly the point about Jesus!!

      Your idea of how salvation occurs is also completely broken for both branches of Catholicism - simply leading a good life won't get you any brownie points, you have to believe in Jesus Christ and the fundamental tenet that he died for humanities sins on the cross.
      Rofl: that is what the CHURCH says! That is certainly not what god said when he gave Moses the 10 commandments (yes that was a jewish thing!) and it is certainly not what Jesus ever preached!

      And again: Baptists, Menonites, Methodist etc. are not a brach of catholicism :D they are branches of protestantism!

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    16. Re:Ouch by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      Ok, so you know jack shit then.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

      I also suggest, as a starting point, reading the Church of England article as well.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

      And being a protestant myself, we definitely believe in the Holy Trinity.

    17. Re:Ouch by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Rofl, the european "protestantism" started with Martin Luther and has nothing to do with the UK Anglicanic church.

      However it makes sense to proclaim the anglicanic church a branch of catholicism. After all they did not change much except switching from latin to "english" in their masses.

      Anyway ... no real need to discuss, as I'm not much interested in this stuff.

      I learned in school that "my face" (which I'm supposed to have, if I had not left "my church" with age of 14) does not believe in the trinity. And for your interest:I read that up on german wikipedia a few hours ago and got confirmed.

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    18. Re:Ouch by mbone · · Score: 1

      I'm raised protestantian, as Martin Luther defined it.
      Certainly there is no trinity.

      Uh, my understanding is that Lutherans subscribe to the Nicene Creed. So do the Baptists (Southern and otherwise), Methodists, Presbyterians, the Catholics and the Orthodox, and in fact every Christian church I have ever been in*.

      The Trinity, and the divinity of Christ (that "true God from true God" part), is built into the Nicene Creed. It is a feature, not a bug. You may not believe in it, but don't go saying all those churches don't know what they are doing when they recite it.

      * You will get bonus points here by intelligently bringing up the Filioque.

    19. Re:Ouch by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Catholicism is Christianity in entirety - it has essentially two main branches, Roman Catholic, and Protestant (or Church of England based Christianity, and also includes most other non-Roman Catholic Christian branches such as Baptists, Methodist etc, which are all offshoots of the CoE branch). But both sit under the label of Catholicism.

      So, there's no Coptic church? No Orthodox church? And they're just the ones that there is no doubt about them being Christian. You could have a slightly longer discussion about whether Mormons are Christian or not - only a thin condom rubber between the two from where I sit.

      You need to retake religious studies

      Someone needs to re-take their RS exam, but I think you're in that remedial class too.

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    20. Re:Ouch by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      The "Trinity" stuff emerged around 200 CE.
      It got challenged quite often.
      In the catholic church it remained doctrine.
      With Martin Luther it got more or less dropped in the "protestantic" church, as he an later philosophers that it contradicts the "there is only one god" doctrine.

      And no, you realized precise: I don't believe in a monotheistic god who is a split personality. (The trinity was stolen from several pagan religions anyway and never was a christian core believe before 200/400 CE)

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  3. Oh no!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Species! One basket! This rock! Shriek! Asteroid of Doom! 3D printing! Space Nutter poetry and emotional arguments!

  4. Payment by TWX · · Score: 1

    I wonder how much they've been paid or are being paid.

    PerkinElmer is still in business, by the way.

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  5. To me, this is good news by QilessQi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whenever NASA (or any other agency) cancels a contract because they lack confidence in the contractor, it probably means that someone in the government is paying attention to what's going on, and is holding the responsible party's feet to the fire.

    Compare this to situations where billions of dollars of money are tossed away in the pursuit of unworking (and possibly unworkable) missle defense systems.

    1. Re:To me, this is good news by mbone · · Score: 1

      Oh, yes. FAME (to pick my previous example) absolutely deserved to be canceled. It hurt some people I have real respect for, but there it is. I am sure the current situation is pretty similar. (This is analogous to firing a contractor when they are halfway finished building an addition to your house - it is so messy and represents such a real loss of money, and also such a loss of face, that it is almost never done without some real provocation.)

    2. Re:To me, this is good news by QilessQi · · Score: 1

      And yet, as with your house analogy, it's better to bring in a competent contractor to set things right, than to soldier on and live in a house that threatens to collapse in the first strong wind.

    3. Re:To me, this is good news by Dereck1701 · · Score: 1

      I see you're new to the US, Welcome! Things here rarely are canceled because they're "holding the responsible party's feet to the fire". Projects can go orders of magnitude over their budgets, with less capabilities then promised and and still continue unquestioned (F-35, Big Dig, Bridge to Nowhere, Afghan command center, Solyndra). The only thing that really stops a project is if it doesn't have enough political clout and the money is wanted by those who do or it is proven beyond all doubt that it will never come to fruition.

    4. Re:To me, this is good news by mbone · · Score: 1

      Well, it's an analogy. Generally, in the spacecraft case, the plug is just pulled, for a bunch of different reasons (which is why it doesn't happen all that often). In this case, L'Garde was trying to reuse a bunch of technology they developed for previous inflatable structures in space. This led to the sail inflation mechanism weighing more than the Sunjammer itself, which is not desirable, and likely not what you would do if you started from scratch. No new contractor would want to come in and try and make the L'Garde proprietary technology work, and NASA is well aware of that. So, there will be sails flown relatively soon, but they won't look like L'Garde's Sunjammer.

    5. Re:To me, this is good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whenever NASA (or any other agency) cancels a contract because they lack confidence in the contractor, it probably means that someone in the government is paying attention to what's going on, and is holding the responsible party's feet to the fire.

      Or it means the contractor is no longer jumping to respond to every little whim of the contracting agency.

    6. Re:To me, this is good news by QilessQi · · Score: 4

      Actually, I've been a private IT contractor supporting various government branches for about 25 years now. :-) I've actually seen projects -- not mine, thankfully -- cancelled for precisely the reason stated in this article: the contractor was screwing up royally, and the Federal managers did not want a flaming disaster on their hands.

    7. Re:To me, this is good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whenever NASA (or any other agency) cancels a contract because they lack confidence in the contractor,

      Was there a contractor? Sounds like they never found one. In total agreement with you, however, as this would not stop military development from moving forward with spending on vaporware to pad the pockets of all involved. GP is dumb. UR smart.

    8. Re:To me, this is good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Lockheed or Boeing get a contract cancelled, then I'll agree.

      When a tiny competitor to a Lockheed or Boeing gravy train gets its contract cancelled, it's often less clear. ANY government contract has reasons to cancel it for cause - everybody screws up _something_ all the time. The defenders of the MIC will usually say, "well, they did X, so what did they expect?" but the big boys do X, Y and Z, and keep on porkin'.

    9. Re:To me, this is good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, what's clear from the article - but not explicitly stated - is that NASA knew about the problems, and ignored them for a couple years. NASA's Space Technology Mission Directorate is chronically underfunded, so they decided to pick on a vulnerable program and justify it based on a year-old review, which the project has had a year to respond to and make corrections. Every program goes through this. Big programs waste billions and decades. Rep. Rohrabracher's point is well taken.

  6. Units hurt the brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As designed, Sunjammer’s solar sail — measuring only about 0.005 millimeters thick — would generate about 0.002 pounds of thrust

    This just hurts the brain. First they make a very nice attempt to be international by using the metric system. Then it mentions a number in 'pounds'.

    Being a European i have no clue how much a pound is, and probably British and US pounds differ too. Ok, i could guess a pound is about half a kilogram. Still makes no sense to mix them up in a scientific article.

    1. Re:Units hurt the brain by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Being a European i have no clue how much a pound is, and probably British and US pounds differ too. Ok, i could guess a pound is about half a kilogram. Still makes no sense to mix them up in a scientific article.

      Wrong guess, minus five.

      Hint: the pound is a unit of FORCE, the kilogram is a unit of MASS. It makes no more sense to measure thrust in kilograms than it does to measure distance in square meters.

      If you really want to have consistency, they should have measured the thrust in newtons, NOT in kilograms.

      The fact that Europeans (at least one of them) don't know their own measurement system any better than that is appalling....

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    2. Re:Units hurt the brain by mbone · · Score: 1

      It's worse than that. There are slugs, pounds and poundals, and (IMHO) anyone who doesn't immediately convert these units to MKS is just being silly.

      Sunjammer was to have a total surface area of ~ 1,200 square metres, so its thrust at 1 AU would have been 2 x 1361 W / m^2 x 1200 / c ~ 0.01 Newtons (assuming the sail had a near perfect reflectivity). On the surface of the Earth, that thrust would be generated by a weight of 0.01 / 9.8 ~ 1 gm, or ~ 0.002 pounds.

    3. Re:Units hurt the brain by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      for what it's worth for GP and anyone else who's interested, 1 lb thrust = 4.45 Newtons. I like this analogy I found online: If you were floating in space with a bag of baseballs and you threw one baseball per second away from you at 21 mph, your baseballs would be generating the equivalent of 1 pound of thrust. If you were to throw the baseballs instead at 42 mph, then you would be generating 2 pounds of thrust. If you throw them at 2,100 mph (perhaps by shooting them out of some sort of baseball gun), then you are generating 100 pounds of thrust, and so on.

    4. Re:Units hurt the brain by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Pounds are units of both mass and force, which is a problem with the "standard" system of weights and measurements. Usually there is a distinction made if it is ambiguous and matters (lb_f or lb_m). It's my understanding that this is because the unit was named before the concepts of mass and weight were observed to be different, but that may be apocryphal.

      The tragedy is that Europeans are apparently determined to screw up a perfectly good unit system by adding back the ambiguity in the creation of the kilograms-force unit (kg_f).

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    5. Re: Units hurt the brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Europeans don't play baseball, you insensitive clod. Try expressing that in terms of footballs (or, what the Americans would call pentahexasocialistsissy balls).

    6. Re:Units hurt the brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      <Barbie>Science is hard!</Barbie>

      Hint: the pound is a unit of FORCE, the kilogram is a unit of MASS.

      Allow me to introduce you to a common colloquialism: "ninety-five pound weakling".

      So, is that 95 pounds of gravitational force on a bathroom scale? If we spaced (defenestrated; tossed him out an airlock) the guy, what would his weight be then (prior to all his blood boiling away, that is)?

      Or might pound also be a unit of mass?

      Serious question, btw. We have a lot of unit systems, many of which conflict, many of which are usually only understood by specialists who use those measurement systems. Eg. Imperial gallons vs. US gallons, leagues, rods, chains, pints, fifths, swallows (cf. Monty Python's "Holy Grail"), US dollars vs. Canadian dollars vs. New Zealand (I think?) dollars, "Absolute zero" vs. "Zero degrees Kelvin", etc.

      Let's not even bother getting into hard disk manufacturers' lies about Megabytes, nor the news media's misunderstanding of what "KB" (kilobyte) means.

    7. Re:Units hurt the brain by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Pound as well as kg are measures of mass.
      In both cases the measurement is done by 'looking at' the force such a weight exercises in the earth gravity field on 0 above sea level.
      It is a no brainer that mass and force excersiced by that mass is completely equivalent for any daily ordinary men usage.
      So what was the point you wanted to make with your wrong reasoning?

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    8. Re:Units hurt the brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pounds are units of force only. The canonical unit of mass in the imperial system is the slug. Just because there are metrics given in "lb-mass" does not make them canonical. That would be like asserting KWh is the SI unit for energy instead of the joule simply because the former is used so frequently.

    9. Re: Units hurt the brain by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      true, nor do Europeans measure speed in miles per hour. the equivalence would be relating one Newton to the thrust imparted on you when you kick a football away from you at XX km/hr. presumably it's a balance-of-kinetic-energy equation. I challenge Slashdot to solve this eqn!

    10. Re:Units hurt the brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, pound is both unit of force and mass. And neither is well suited for scientific article.

    11. Re: Units hurt the brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, a Euronazi. Tell us, Aryan superman: how many Jews, Gypsies and disabled did you round up for extermination today?

    12. Re:Units hurt the brain by bitterblackale · · Score: 1

      A British pound is the unit of force with which the upper class "pound" the working classes to submit to voting for the same lackeys time and time again. A US pound is very similar but may also relate to the amount of pressure exerted on one's hind quarters whilst consuming a triple big mac with a large fry and 42 oz fountain drink that contains enough sugar to give a hippo diabetes.

    13. Re: Units hurt the brain by Keruo · · Score: 1

      Ahem.. Baseball is pretty much the national sport next to ice hockey in Finland. Although it's the local version of the game. Pitching is vertical instead of horizontal(US baseball) and the field is shaped like a upside down triangle with a rectangle on top rather than diamond(US)

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  7. Planetary Society by SpammersAreScum · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Planetary Society's LightSail project is apparently still on track, so Clarke (and we) shouldn't despair just yet.

  8. Sunjammer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a scary name. When I put anything else in front of the word "jammer" (radiojammer; satellitejammer; wifijammer...) it sounds bad.

    But imagine the possibilities of power one could hold, if one could jam sun-input of a portion of the Earth.

    1. Re:Sunjammer by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      a windjammer* is a vessel designed to take full advantage of every bit of wind energy it can capture and put it into forward motion using the largest sail area it can possibly handle. Hence the name "Sunjammer", being designed along the same line: the largest sail the payload can practically handle using the lightest material available with just one aim: to maximise the conversion of the solar wind thus captured into forward motion.

      *oceangoing windjammers were steel hulled and designed to carry cargo on intercontinental voyages following the prevailing winds. Maximising sail areas (usually by adding more masts and square riggings, as opposed to racing boats which used one to three large sheets and were designed for speed rather than capacity) allowed cargo capacities to be increased for sailing ships until they hit an average 2,000 tons, with the largest being just over 11,000 tons full displacement (the Preussen), while being able to maintain high cruising speeds (sometimes in excess of 18kt)

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    2. Re:Sunjammer by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure in the UK a wind jammer would be known as a clipper.

    3. Re:Sunjammer by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      nope. Clippers are wooden hulled. Windjammers are at least four times more massive and steel hulled.

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  9. Blame these Space News websites by Traf-O-Data-Hater · · Score: 1

    They all seem to do it - Space.com, Spaceflightnow.com, Spacefellowship, Nasaspaceflight. They know their audience is educated yet they persist in writing articles with both metric or imperial units. Or worse, they mix them as in this instance. They also take the let-me-convert-everythgin-for-you approach and put the complementary units in parentheses. Why they don't just stick to one measurement system - SI makes the most sense - I do not know. However I do believe spaceflight enthusiasts are NOT idiots.

    1. Re:Blame these Space News websites by mbone · · Score: 1

      Well, big chunks of the US aerospace industry (i.e., their audience) still use English units. You don't see this in formal publications as much as you used to, but it's still fairly common.

  10. Sunjammer was the orignal title by calidoscope · · Score: 1

    I remember one of my brother's first issues (Apr? 1964) of Boy's Life having "Sunjammer" as the cover story. AC Clarke later expanded the story under the name "Wind from the Sun". FWIW, Boy's Life is one of the magazines digitized by Google Books and you can look up the issue in question.

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  11. Intergalactic travel solved? by AlanDenny · · Score: 0

    Couldn't we get a spaceship to resonate at the same frequency as the background noise of the Big Bang (probably another demension) and tune it to where we want to go in the universe?

    1. Re:Intergalactic travel solved? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Couldn't we get a spaceship to resonate at the same frequency as the background noise of the Big Bang (probably another demension) and tune it to where we want to go in the universe?

      Where's my '-1 moron' mod when I need it?

    2. Re: Intergalactic travel solved? by AlanDenny · · Score: 0

      Why's that. Why just discredit an idea no ones thought of. Got news ladies and gents, no faster than light travel which means probably gonna have to use another dimension.

    3. Re: Intergalactic travel solved? by AlanDenny · · Score: 0

      Every spot in the universe should have a distinct frequency in correlation to the Big Bang giving us pin point navigation. Just tune the ship.

  12. You would think....but no. by Chirs · · Score: 1

    When doing physics the pound is most often used as force, but it's not quite as simple as you make it out to be.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...

    Also, consider the system of measurement with pounds-as-mass, where the unit of force is the "poundal".

  13. Sunjammer was the orignal title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah we could look it up, but in future that's what the <a> tag is for

  14. You've got it backwards. by Chirs · · Score: 1

    The fundamental property is mass, and the "weight" is defined by the force generated due to "standard" gravity.

    The kg is a measure of mass. The pound can be mass or force, depending on the system of measurement involved. Most technical people would consider pounds to be units of force, where the corresponding mass is the slug. (Though honestly SI units are more convenient for doing physics with.)

    1. Re:You've got it backwards. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Sorry, you are simply wrong.

      Like the pound a kg can be a unit of mass or force.

      A pound is just a "smaller kg" something around 450g ... there is no difference in usage. Neither for laymen nor for scientists.

      Oh: scientists neither use kg nor pound for force, but only as mass.

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  15. Fame deserved it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FAME was over budget, and was way behind on detectors, having burned through 24 wafers with no device that met specs. And yes, I worked on the FAME mission.

    1. Re: Fame deserved it by smaddox · · Score: 1

      What was the detector? 24 wafers isn't as absured as it may sound, for a one off prototype. Developeding a high yield process takes a lot of time and money, especially if it's a relatively new material system.

    2. Re: Fame deserved it by mbone · · Score: 1

      FAME deserved it. Let' s just leave it at that and walk away from the wreckage.

    3. Re: Fame deserved it by GHennessy · · Score: 1

      The detector was CCD. It wasn't supposed to be a advance the state of the art, it was supposed to be we want a functional 2kx4k detector.

  16. From Spacenews.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I worked for L’Garde and was part of the recent lay-off. L’Garde does not have the capability to execute a project one-twentieth the size of Sunjammer. L’Garde does not have the ability the procure materials and adhesives and many times I was forced to used expired product. L’Garde’s Engineers, Program Managers and Directors have not demonstrated the ability to track a project’s status with respect to deadlines or critical path. The Director’s, Program Manager’s and the Project Engineers are never held accountable for inconclusive, contradictory or incorrect documentation. The assembly personnel and production supervisors have been told fix the issues on the production floor or have the ultimatum of being terminated. L’Garde is currently executing a program to provide targets for a USA ally. This project is currently at a company loss approaching $300,000. The Program Manager and the Project Engineer were never held accountable for the ‘Botched’ execution of this project. L’Garde performed and internal audit called ‘Lessons Learned’ to identify the exorbitant costs. The finding concluded that there were too many ‘Non-Conformity Reports’ (NCR’s). The corrective action was for the QA Department to minimize the NCR’s because too much time went into writing the documentation causing an inference in production flow which resulted in what was considered unnecessary overtime. The Directors or the Program Manager did not wish to discuss the reasons for the NCR’s. L’Garde is a very reactive, not a proactive company. L’Garde recently obtained a contact from Northrop Grumman to fabricate the Thermal Protection System for the James Webb Telescope. When the customer was due to arrive on a Monday to view the fabricated prototype; L’Garde started the build the Thursday before the customer was to arrive. The production floor needed to make tooling and practically executed an around-the-clock effort to make the prototype. The production floor is an amazing team (and L’Garde’s greatest asset) but only got 80% of the build accomplished. I was told by a Mid-Level Manager that any company that has been in business for 40 years should be running like a Swiss Watch. He also told me that he has never worked for a company as disorganized as L’Garde.

  17. Spelljammer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They forgot the helm.

  18. But there's one thing I do know by drainbramage · · Score: 1

    There's a lot of ruins in Mesopotamia.

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    No brain, no pain.