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OpenSUSE Factory To Merge With Tumbleweed

Posted by samzenpus on from the two-in-one dept.

sfcrazy writes Factory and Tumbleweed will merge to become a single release. The release will follow the development cycle of Factory but take the more appealing name, Tumbleweed. Commenting on the new development Greg Kroah-Hartman said, “The changes to the Factory release model have changed it from being an unstable development codebase into the type of rolling release I set out to create when starting openSUSE Tumbleweed. I’m very happy to see these two rolling releases coming together under the name Tumbleweed, and am looking forward to watching how it develops in the future.” Factory won't disappear; It will become a "development project" for creating the "user-ready" Tumbleweed."

24 comments

  1. Tumblewhat? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Tumblewhat?

    How will SUSE keep users from thinking "Tumbleweed" means "nobody here to maintain it"?

    1. Re:Tumblewhat? by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Tumbleweed is an incredibly appropriate name for a SUSE release, as no one uses SUSE anymore and the dev community is like a ghost town.

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    2. Re:Tumblewhat? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've been using SuSE/openSUSE since 2005. It's always mostly worked quite well for me, and when I have had issues, in almost every case it was a problem that originated upstream (I'm looking at you, Nouveau).

      I know plenty of people who use it (including 3/4 of my team at work). Most of them are in the German-speaking countries, Benelux, or Scandinavia.

      I've not had much trouble with it lagging behind, although I have had the opposite problem on a couple of occasions, like when they've moved up to a newer version of gcc than our dev/QA people were testing against at the time. I've filed several bug reports against our products that were closed as !BUG and then re-opened after Fedora/RH/Debian/whatever caught up.

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    3. Re:Tumblewhat? by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 2

      Are you sure about that? openSUSE user here... runs great on my laptop.

    4. Re:Tumblewhat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tumbleweed is an incredibly appropriate name for a SUSE release, as no one uses SUSE anymore and the dev community is like a ghost town.

      Tumbleweed is an incredibly appropriate name for a SUSE release, as almost no one uses SUSE anymore and the dev community is like a ghost town. Still, you gotta wonder about what is wrong with most open source folks, especially the Linux crowd, that comes up with the stupidest, non relevant names for their software which sucks so bad they have to give it away.
      FTFY

    5. Re:Tumblewhat? by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 2

      Still, you gotta wonder about what is wrong with most open source folks, especially the Linux crowd, that comes up with the stupidest, non relevant names for their software which sucks so bad they have to give it away. FTFY

      Right, because closed-source companies like Microsoft never use irrelevant code names for products, like versions of Windows known as Snowball, Chicago, Mantis, Whistler, and other code names like Metro. Oh, wait...

      And, BTW, giving software away is a part of the business model of most open source companies, not a result of producing junk as you say.

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    6. Re:Tumblewhat? by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      And Google isn't exactly hemorrhaging money because they use idiotic names for Android versions, or because it is open source.

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  2. Would it hurt the article author.. by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    .. to spend a sentence explaining what the hell factory and tubleweed are?

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    1. Re: Would it hurt the article author.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Tumbleweed was openSUSEs original rolling release, started by GregKH, which added rolling package updates to the regular openSUSE versions.

      Factory was originally openSUSEs unstable development branch (like Fedoras rawhide) but due to changes to our development process and heavy amounts of automated testing using openQA, Factory became a 'true' rolling release, with every package moving as fast as our contributors can move them, with QA preventing instability creeping in.

      This merger takes Factory's process & technology and gives its Tumbleweeds name, hopefully bringing both userbases onto a single rolling release of openSUSE

    2. Re: Would it hurt the article author.. by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      You have mistaken OP's comment as a specific request for information about Tumbleweed and Factory when it is in fact a general request for BETTER SUMMARIES.

  3. Factory Shutdown... by The+New+Guy+2.0 · · Score: 1

    Where's the number of layoffs that go with this Factory changeover?

    1. Re: Factory Shutdown... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Zero - all openSUSE contributors (including those paid by SUSE) aren't changing anything as part of this merger - the difference from their point of view is that the 'finished product' from the Factory, the rolling release which was named after the Factory it came from, is now going to be called Tumbleweed.

  4. Bennett, what's your position on this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I'm unsure what to think about this merger until frequent contributor bennett haselton has posted his thoughts on this. I'm now convinced that his style of long comments is the new style of journalism. But I guess Bennett is busy curing ebola and solving mathematical millenia problems.

    1. Re:Bennett, what's your position on this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have ebola? You're welcome.

    2. Re:Bennett, what's your position on this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bennett? Is that you? Commenting about yourself on every topic in 3rd person? What a ploy!

    3. Re:Bennett, what's your position on this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I'm pretty sure *you're* Bennett Haselton, attempting to indirectly cash in on your new-found fame.

    4. Re:Bennett, what's your position on this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fame? Who the hell is bennett haselton?

  5. Tumblewhat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're investigating showing the opening scene of The Big Lebowski or having https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjg8LL5iUrc as a startup sound in Tumbleweed

    Source: thedude@opensuse.org

  6. hmmm by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

    I dunno about this. I think I'll move along to the next article now.

  7. Explain: Why do we care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A story like this with two random things most people have never heard of is only interesting if there is some reason to care, and the summary needs to make us care in a sentence.

    "Factory, a design pattern that replaces traditional object-oriented constructors, is merging with Tumbleweed, the dependency-injection framework, to block a move by Microsoft and IBM to patent object-oriented design patterns."

    See, I just made that up, but my fake explanation makes more sense than the summary.

  8. indeed by raymorris · · Score: 1

    True

  9. Tumbleweed User Here by davidshenba · · Score: 1

    I am a Tumbleweed user for past 2 years. It is a hassle free experience. Just "zypper update" can handle everything! Latest Kernel (as of now, I am running 3.17) with stability is what I want, which Tumbleweed delivers constantly! Switching to Tumbleweed is very simple. Just need to set those repos and do an update.