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Robots Put To Work On E-Waste

aesoteric writes: Australian researchers have programmed industrial robots to tackle the vast array of e-waste thrown out every year. The research shows robots can learn and memorize how various electronic products — such as LCD screens — are designed, enabling those products to be disassembled for recycling faster and faster. The end goal is less than five minutes to dismantle a product.

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  1. Let me guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's called Wall-E.

    1. Re: Let me guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me guess, you were the top of your class.

    2. Re:Let me guess by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      EVA!

    3. Re:Let me guess by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      As a bonus, if the robots wear out, they can be easily disassembled.

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  2. 5 minutes by Dunbal · · Score: 2

    Give me a crusher and a big enough centrifuge and I'll separate stuff for you much faster than that!

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    1. Re:5 minutes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps.... But it would be a sight to behold watching a machine 'dissemble' something like say a laptop in under 5 mins. That would actually be pretty cool.

    2. Re:5 minutes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give me a crusher and a big enough centrifuge and I'll separate stuff for you much faster than that!

      This is actually the currently preferred method, at least for litium car batteries. The problem arises when you try to reuse rather than just recycle parts of whatever product you are separating. Shredders are just not good at preserving individual components.

  3. Better mouse trap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sooo, why not use the robots that put them together in the first place in reverse order?

    1. Re:Better mouse trap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For retooling reasons. You can't keep the building machines around for long enough until each and every buyer decides to throw away their thing (add eBay and nostalgia into the mix and that may as well be "forever"). But if you have these machines that you _can_ keep around for dismantling purposes, regardless of the age of the product that is being dismantled, I think you got yourself a pretty good deal.

      The deal could get even better if the manufacturers were to provide dismantling instructions to these robots as part of the product design process. That is unless these robots can identify what they're dismantling all on their own.

    2. Re:Better mouse trap by Ichijo · · Score: 1

      They've already been dismantled.

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    3. Re:Better mouse trap by Minwee · · Score: 1

      Because most of them will have grown up and found other jobs by then.

  4. This Is And Out Rage! by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    What are third and fourth world economies going to do when they have to learn how read to earn a living?! There's a little boy, "Ashowkar Gupta" and his only dream is to wade into the Ganges when it becomes a gray and bubbling gue. Now his dreams are shattered by a Sky Net T-1000 "cannibalizing" e-waste. How will Ashowkar's future be now? Tragic, just tragic.

    1. Re:This Is And Out Rage! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There is no point in learning if your job is outsourced anyway.

      Just learn a craft they can't send to China/India (yet).

      Once the Chinese/Indians become too expensive, will be sent to the next shithole anyway.

    2. Re:This Is And Out Rage! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is "and out rage"? WTF?

  5. Just Saying... by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 1

    The end goal is less than five minutes to dismantle a product.

    And industrial shredder can dismantle a product in a second or two.

    1. Re:Just Saying... by slew · · Score: 1

      The end goal is less than five minutes to dismantle a product.

      And industrial shredder can dismantle a product in a second or two.

      But of course an industrial shredder won't be able to collect and sort 80's memorabilia as efficiently as a Waste Allocation Load Lifter - Earth-class...

    2. Re:Just Saying... by NotInHere · · Score: 1

      ... and save humanity from an evil autopilot.

    3. Re:Just Saying... by slew · · Score: 2

      ... and save humanity from an evil autopilot.

      Auto wasn't evil, he was just doing what he was programmed for directive A113...
      As often is the case, it's likely that PEBKAC at fault. Usually, nobody ever thinks about spec-ing out the error cases enough...

  6. Wouldn't that be a good job for unemployed people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I always think... what are the people who were doing it going to do?

    We soon have a surplus of H-Waste.... what are all these people going to do? In fact in The Netherlands an MP has brought up the topic an era in which there may not be paid work for everyone anymore. What will it mean for those who just can't find work?

    What do you all think? If I could hit a button and it would wipe out 50% of the population including myself/loved ones, I would press it without any hesitation. It would be a nice reset of what is much overlooked, namely that we are with too many! And we can't all 7B live lives like most Westerners do. The species will survive easily, so that's not at risk, just individuals will be impacted.

    If not that, what else? Camps where non workers will be put. You don't think that a non-worker will be allowed to live in the nicest real estate in town do you? Do we get human feeding lots where they get guaranteed food/care but are not allowed to reproduce?

    Thoughts?

  7. Re: Wouldn't that be a good job for unemployed peo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My thought is you should go fuck yourself

  8. Isn't that creepy for them? by linear+a · · Score: 2

    Robots dealing with a bunch of electronic innards? Seems like working in a morgue.

    1. Re:Isn't that creepy for them? by camperdave · · Score: 4, Funny

      Imagine a picture of a robot holding up a motherboard, captioned with the words "Alas, poor Yorick..."

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  9. My uncle dismantled a Chevy Nova in 4 seconds. by onkelonkel · · Score: 4, Funny

    My uncle dismantled a Chevy Nova in 4 seconds. He did have some help from a train.

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    1. Re:My uncle dismantled a Chevy Nova in 4 seconds. by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      My uncle dismantled a Chevy Nova in 4 seconds. He did have some help from a train.

      How'd he get one of those to actually, uh, go?

  10. But what happens when you need by TheDarkener · · Score: 1

    a robot to disassemble the robots that disassembled stuff?

    And what about the robots to disassemble the robots that disassembled robots that disassembled stuff?

    And what about the robots to dis..........AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH MY BRAIN!

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    1. Re:But what happens when you need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coastguard?

  11. Oh the Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let robots learn to disassemble electronic waste, is same as let human workers cut up and cremate human bodies. I wonder if they need psychology doctors for their work...

  12. Robot murder! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would that make the robots murderers? Cannibals?

    1. Re:Robot murder! by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      It's not murder if the devices aren't active anymore.

  13. Recycle by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    Are they actually able to recycle electronic components? The industrial cutter can takes apart a LCD screen, but they do not mention un-soldering.

    1. Re:Recycle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'd be glad to have a robot that could desolder for me. Heck, just heat the damn board up until the solder melts and pull everything off.

      I spent 3 hours the other night desoldering most of an old CRT's boards for components (side of road, and I'm a cheap bastard. Loads of free power components). Solder wick and a manual solder sucker, because I don't have a nice desoldering station or a hot air rework station. But a robot that could use an IR laser and a vacuum picker/other grabber would be awesome. It sucks to sit around doing this shit by hand. Let the robots do it.

    2. Re:Recycle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be nice. Only/mostly us hobbyists reuse components though. I suspect it wouldn't pay in a manufacturing setting, with no history of the (ab)use the component in question has taken. Through-hole is going out of fashon for most components anyway, and reuse of anything but chips form an SMD board would probably be pointless.
      The point in this case is just to remove the PCB and panel, so that the metal and plastic can be easily recycled.

  14. I think I saw it at disney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WALL-E

  15. Re: Wouldn't that be a good job for unemployed peo by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

    That's a good non-reproducting activity that will keep him happy and busy at a very low cost, good thinking!

  16. poor robots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    How would you feel if robots made you work on human bodyparts and corpses?

  17. Re:Wouldn't that be a good job for unemployed peop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Inspire people to follow you. Start small. With yourself.

  18. Our esteemed PM wants to know by zennling · · Score: 1

    ..if they can dismantle coal from the ground as quickly? Coal is good for humanity, you know!

  19. This feasible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take your ewaste. Have it seperated out by type. displays vs. pc's vs phones vs. other...
    Send each down their own conveyor belt, where robotic stations remove casing, and desolder and remove surface mount and through-hole components.Included in this, is 3 degrees of freedom for every piece being dismantled.
    Once most, if not all, non wafter board pieces are off, send the bare boards into a vat, where they are dipped, sprayed, doused in lquid Nitrogen, or extremely cold fluid of your choice.
    In same vat, drain all liquid, and then shatter with a high decibel acoustic wave.
    What you have left, is very small bits of wafer mulch, ready to be centrifuged and seperated.

    This sound feasible?

  20. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    now we're giving the robots the parts they need to make more robots.

    Doesn't anyone watch Terminator any more?