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Researchers Discover Ancient Massive Landslide

sciencehabit writes For decades, geologists have noted the signs of ancient landslides in southwestern Utah. Although many parts of the landscape don't look that odd at first glance, certain layers include jumbled masses of fractured rock sandwiched among thick veins of lava, ash, and mud. Now, new fieldwork suggests that many of those ancient debris flows are the result of one of Earth's largest known landslides, which covered an area nearly 39 times the size of Manhattan.

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  1. UOM conversion help, please by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anybody know what "39 times the size of Manhattan" is in football fields?

    1. Re:UOM conversion help, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      American or Metric football?

    2. Re:UOM conversion help, please by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Neither. Canadian.

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    3. Re:UOM conversion help, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:UOM conversion help, please by daniel23 · · Score: 3, Funny

      For European readers: it is about 5% of the area of Bavaria

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    5. Re:UOM conversion help, please by SJHillman · · Score: 1

      Wolfram Alpha and Google equate 39 Manhattans to the following:

      - 1,310 square miles
      - 3,393 square kilometers
      - 634,079.63 American football fields
      - 475,193.28 Association football fields
      - 0.85 Rhode Islands
      - 1.7 Area Flattened By The Tunguska Event(s)
      - 1.0 Acres Designated and Managed As Wilderness In The Sequoia and Kings Canyon National Parks
      - 1.0 Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus
      - 1.0 Non-tidal watershed below Waterville on the Kennebec River, ME

    6. Re:UOM conversion help, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anybody know what "39 times the size of Manhattan" is in football fields?

      3400 sqare kilometers / 39 = 87.179487179487179487179487179487 square kilometers for Manhattan.
      Football field is 0.005351215104 square kilometers so 635369.71209744888625579720295243 football fields (American).

    7. Re:UOM conversion help, please by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      Holy shit! That's some really impressive natural language processing! Now I have a new toy for the afternoon. Thanks!

    8. Re:UOM conversion help, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, km^2, please. All nations in the world, except for Burma, Liberia and the United States, use the metric system. Thank you.

    9. Re:UOM conversion help, please by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

      You beat me to it.

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    10. Re:UOM conversion help, please by geantvert · · Score: 1

      And in Library of Congress?

    11. Re:UOM conversion help, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More accurately, that's 0.857 Rhode Island.

    12. Re: UOM conversion help, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      American football field? Canadian football field? European football field? Australian rules football field?

    13. Re:UOM conversion help, please by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 4, Funny

      For European readers: it is about 5% of the area of Bavaria

      How many Liechtenstein is that?

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    14. Re:UOM conversion help, please by Macdude · · Score: 1

      Anybody know what "39 times the size of Manhattan" is in football fields?

      One Manhattan is:
      12,292.12 Football Fields
      16,344.68 US Football Fields
      10,728.82 Canadian Football Fields

      So 39 Manhattans are:
      479,392.68 Football Fields
      637,442.52 US Football Fields
      418,423.98 Canadian Football Fields

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    15. Re:UOM conversion help, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better yet, can we get the measurement in Philae sized comets?

    16. Re:UOM conversion help, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anybody know what "39 times the size of Manhattan" is in football fields?

      It's about the same number of football fields as there are pixels in a Bennett Haselton article.

    17. Re: UOM conversion help, please by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Neither, arena football field size..

    18. Re:UOM conversion help, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which Bavaria? The Duchy of Bavaria, the Kingdom of Bavaria or the Free State of Bavaria?

    19. Re:UOM conversion help, please by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      That uses a broom, ice, and liberal quantities of Molson, right?

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    20. Re:UOM conversion help, please by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Trick question - you cannot divide by zero!

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    21. Re:UOM conversion help, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, except for the part where it doesn't specify the unit of measurement in the answer. 634100 what? Kilometres? Yards? Feet? Acres?

      Captcha: vaguest

    22. Re:UOM conversion help, please by geoskd · · Score: 1

      Yeah, except for the part where it doesn't specify the unit of measurement in the answer. 634100 what? Kilometres? Yards? Feet? Acres?

      The result is a unitless number. It is the proportion of two areas, and so the units cancel leaving just a raw proportion.

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    23. Re:UOM conversion help, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The unit of measure is FOOTBALL FIELDS. Sheesh.

    24. Re:UOM conversion help, please by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Yeah, except for the part where it doesn't specify the unit of measurement in the answer. 634100 what? Kilometres? Yards? Feet? Acres?

      Gee, I don't know, maybe ... football fields ?

      Anybody know what "39 times the size of Manhattan" is in football fields?

      As in, 39 times the size of Manhattan is equal to 634100 football fields.

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    25. Re: UOM conversion help, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's for the bedroom after the match.

    26. Re: UOM conversion help, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I measure everything in Turkish Republic of Northern Cypruses, you insensitive clod.

  2. Geology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The past is the key to the present. This is the kind of analysis that points to current and future risks. Rock, weathered rock and soil are relatively static on the scale of our lifetime or memory, but are dynamic on geologic timescales. 20-30 Million years ago (Miocene - Oligocene) is less than half of the time back to the dinosaurs. Lots of things have happened since the dinosaurs flew away and many of them are hidden beneath newer rock and weathering products. Tying all the small pieces (landslides) together into one event is a great piece of detective work. Well Done.

    1. Re:Geology by istartedi · · Score: 1

      Knowing the geology is good; but I'd like to see us work on effective ways to use that knowledge.

      It always comes down to money, especially when the area is already built.

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    2. Re:Geology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut up! We're trying to make jokes here. This is no place to actually discuss science, nerd.

    3. Re:Geology by sensei+moreh · · Score: 1

      Knowing the geology is good; but I'd like to see us work on effective ways to use that knowledge.

      In this case, it's easy. Don't build (or buy a building) on or immediately beneath a slippery slope.

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  4. I hope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there isn't another landslide into Beaver, if you know what I mean.

    1. Re: I hope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do I know if I know what you mean?

    2. Re: I hope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just know. Know what I mean?

  5. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess they didn't rig election back then, they way they do now.

  6. A landslide that size is a LOT of Amaretto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  7. Gave us the bird. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    Lots of things have happened since the dinosaurs flew away

    I love that formulation.

    (And just coined a related one: "... since the dinosaurs gave us the bird" B-) )

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  8. 20-30 Million years ago? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't look a day over 18,000,000, 18,250,001 old. Tops.
    How long ago is that is dog years?
    Oh, while I'm at it, speaking of quasi-quantity based analogies that humans can only think about in terms of 'that's a lot,' (my point is is that can we really think of the difference between 100,000 or 100,000,000? How many peanuts can fit in a shipping container? Inside the Statue of Liberty?), where was I? Oh, is we lined up everyone who ever made such an analogy it would be 812 to the 12th power longer than the line at Comicon.

  9. Even google fails by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google usually converts anything, so I tried:

    39 manhattans in km2

    but this time, even Google couldn't convert it. You Americans really need to start using metric instead of measuring stuff in manhattans.

  10. Massive Ancient Landslides In California by rlh100 · · Score: 1

    Many years ago I took a geomorphology class in college. Geomorphology is the study of the landscape and the geologic processes that shape the contours of the land. We had a lab where we identified landslides using aerial photos and a stereoscope. I already had some experience looking through a stereoscope and identifying landslides so I was finding lots of them. The professor walked by and noticed. He said "OK Robert, now look for larger landslides." They were harder to see because they were older. But they could be identified by their surface mottling and shape. So I start to see them and there are lots of them. The professor was impressed and he said "OK, now step back and look at the entire hill side." When I did this I realized that the entire hillside was one massive landslide. Ridge to valley bottom. Probably on the order of a square mile. He suggested that at some time in the past the entire hillside slid. Probably the result of a 1906 type earthquake in the middle of a very wet winter when all the soil on the hillside was saturated with water. It blew my mind.

    RLH