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South Korea Says Nuclear Reactors Safe After Cyberattacks
wiredmikey writes South Korea on Thursday ruled out the possibility that recent cyber-attacks on nuclear power operator Korea Hydro and Nuclear Power Co (KHNP) could cause a malfunction at any of the country's 23 atomic reactors. Earlier this week, South Korea heightened security in the wake of the leaks, with the defense ministry's cyber warfare unit increasing its watch-level against attacks from North Korean and other hackers. On Monday, KHNP launched a two-day drill, testing its ability to thwart a cyber attack.
Then any hacker that sets one off will have to wonder if they're next.
A simple plan, fiendish in its intricacies.
I'm pretty sure you don't understand what the Republican platform really is. I don't think you'd find too many Republicans advocating an invasion of North Korea. It would be pointless and stupid. The more direct threat to America is within - people on food stamps who refuse to look for work, government meddling in healthcare and attempting to determine who gets treatment and who doesn't, and a thousand other big brother type programs that expect you to conform and shut up and do what your told. North Korea is a new headline - that's it. The real issues you don't hear nearly as much about because they are not in a recently release movie.
Yeah
Flatten NK - they're way outa their box!
Lets just air-gap those systems -- unless someone can explain why we need to make a nuclear reactor accessible from the Internet.
Haven't you heard? We've always been at war with East Asia.
I don't get why these critical assets are hooked to the internet. Surely that isn't possibly true? You'd think any sane system would have them on their own network sealed off from any possible outside connection. Why do they need internet access? To browse facebook? Porn?
Or we could just make sure the reactors we have are not connected to the Internet.
Lets be real. Seoul has more conventional weaponry pointed at it than any city in the world. DPRK doesn't need nukes to turn their southern neighbor's most famous and most important city into a crater.
Realistically, no US President will overtly do a thing about North Korea. It has served China as a distraction and a buffer zone, and China ultimately will step in and claim NK as under their protection, sending in PLA troops like the USSR sent in Russian tanks if one of their puppets ran into trouble.
However, this doesn't mean surrender to them. Let them make all the threats they want to, and ignore them, just like you do the Goatse troll on Slashdot.
I am one of those people on welfare who refuses to look for work you insensitive clod.
I'm pretty sure you don't understand what the Republican platform really is.
1. Find out what the Democrats want to do.
2. Denounce and oppose it.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
That won't save us, the internet is going to be everywhere.
Lets be real. Seoul has more conventional weaponry pointed at it than any city in the world. DPRK doesn't need nukes to turn their southern neighbor's most famous and most important city into a crater.
While not quite a scientific article, I think they get the idea better than you do.
Realistically, no US President will overtly do a thing about North Korea. It has served China as a distraction and a buffer zone, and China ultimately will step in and claim NK as under their protection, sending in PLA troops like the USSR sent in Russian tanks if one of their puppets ran into trouble.
DPRK is as much a headache for China as they are useful; they are as apt to embarrass China as to be their puppet to tweak the RoK and the US.
However, this doesn't mean surrender to them. Let them make all the threats they want to, and ignore them, just like you do the Goatse troll on Slashdot.
Ignore them if you want, cave to them when you get tired of their bluster, but understand that they are actively trying to subvert and attack the US. Just because they are incompetent now, I for one, do not suppose that they will always remain so. Just as Bin Laden got a lucky shot in, so too might the DPRK
there is always a next time for hackers, and they learn each time they get in. moral: disconnect from the web. VT102 terminals would make a dandy airgap, but they won't run the manglement crap.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
That didn't help Iran with Suxnet any. Their reactor WAS walled off, but a USB stick made the whole thing fall down.
Coming after the Stuxnet experience and the recent hack of a steel mill in Germany, which forced an emergency shutdown of the furnace, with 'heavy damage', the complacent assertion that no cyber attack could cause a reactor malfunction just seems witless. Of course these reactors are susceptible to getting hacked, the main obstacle is the relative obscurity of the control systems and the reality that there are multiple different designs in service, so that a wide ranging attack is very complicated. By the same token, the diversity of targets makes the defense much more difficult, no 'one size fits all' protocol is likely to be effective.
The hope may be that hacking a nuclear plant might be seen as an act of war, so not something most states would pursue, but the proliferation of devices makes it easier to create a hard to attribute hack. There is plenty of ill will around as well, so this is likely to be just the first such attack post Stuxnet.
It wasn't a reactor. It was a fuel production plant. It's likely that their reactors are walled off to a greater extent.
It took two days to unplug an ethernet cable?! WTF are nuke plants doing on the internet anyway.
What, why? A covert, secret, illegal, sneaky atomic weapon material facility is exactly the one thing you want to keep on the down-low. There is nothing that it needs to know about the outside world. It doesn't have to coordinate squat with other plants for its operations, it doesn't have to update its Facebook tweets. A power plant is less clandestine, and needs to know more about what's going on outside. They have to adjust to the grid, and having a little warning about big up or down events helps to keep the giant generators from turning into shrapnel.
First the pentagon declares computer hacking (meaning cracking) "an act of war". Then leaks by Snowden reveal the NSA committed such acts against other countries. Now, someone has undertaken massive industrial espionage and laughable threats of terrorism causing the US government to respond. Chest-thumping politicians demand a counter-attack on North Korea. Since North Korea is already isolated from the international community, financial or industrial espionage will do little damage to the country. Worse, a counter-attack may affect other countries, such as China.
Correction
1: Find out what the Democrats want to do
2: Do the same
Correction
1: Find out what the Democrats want to do
2: Do the same
Well, yeah, but not before denouncing it.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
ah so. ... 'twas the internet, sure : )
lost the vietnam war. 'twas the internet.
plane crashed. 'twas the internet.
somebody got shot. 'twas the internet.
nuclear reactor (nearly) blew up (again). 'twas the internet.
got a flat tire. 'twas the internet.
wife divorced
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You mean like the U.S.'s domestic oil production that Bush couldn't pursue because environmentalists couldn't bear the impact it would have on their cause?
Oh wait, somehow it's OK now because their own guy is in office?
What about the environmental impact and all the noise of why the U.S. can't/shouldn't produce on its own?
You mean like the U.S.'s domestic oil production that Bush couldn't pursue because environmentalists couldn't bear the impact it would have on their cause?
Oh wait, somehow it's OK now because their own guy is in office?
If you were paying attention, these Environmental Strawmen you are railing against are just as pissed at th e current occupant as they were at President Cheney.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
A civilian reactor, to a tried and tested design, with the control systems built by Germans versus a one off secret enrichment plant built by local contractors.
I'd back the former as more secure versus the latter just about everywhere, probably even in the USA given some massive fuckups in defence industry electronics at times.
Hmm, three of my posts on different stories all modded down within minutes, including this one on a relatively old story well past the date when most readers have moved on. It appears that I've annoyed someone who is very petty and has decided to list my comments then downmod them. Is that person going to be a childish coward or own up?
true. I don't think they have gotten to the point of actually building reactors beyond Bushehr and Isfahan, and both of those are mostly foreign built (by Russia and China respectively).