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Bill Gates Sponsoring Palladium-Based LENR Technology

Baldrson writes Kitco.com reports that: "Low energy nuclear reactor (LENR) technology, and by extension palladium, is attracting the attention of one of the richest men in the world and a pioneer inventor of new technology... In a recent visit to Italy, billionaire business man, investor and inventor Bill Gates said that for several years he has been a believer in the idea of LENR, and is a sponsor of companies developing the technology... During his trip to Italy he visited the national agency for new technologies energy and sustainable economic development (ENEA) where scientists have made significant progress towards a working design for low energy nuclear fusion. The centerpiece of their design is the same as in Mitsubishi's, palladium. Creating palladium foil with just the right parameters, and managing stress levels in the material was a key issue, one that the researchers at EMEA were able to resolve several years ago."

183 comments

  1. just a new name for cold fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's good that he has a lot of money, because this is going down the toilet.

    1. Re:just a new name for cold fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A fool and his money... ... lucky for him he has lots and lots of it, so he can afford to part with some of it into losing propositions.
      Although, I'd probably advise him to just go buy one of every state lottery ticket number - at least then he'd get *something* back for his stupid waste of money, rather than the nothing LENR is going to return.

    2. Re:just a new name for cold fusion by OneSizeFitsNoone · · Score: 1

      It's good that he has a lot of money, because this is going down the toilet.

      There was a time when technology was based on science. Today we learn it's based on faith (Bill Gates said that for several years he has been a believer in the idea of LENR).

    3. Re:just a new name for cold fusion by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      It's good that he has a lot of money, because this is going down the toilet.

      There was a time when technology was based on science. Today we learn it's based on faith (Bill Gates said that for several years he has been a believer in the idea of LENR).

      I remember hearing somewhere that if you imagine science vs religion as an axis, on the extreme side of either end, fundamentalist science and fundamentalist religious, you have people motivated solely by faith.

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    4. Re:just a new name for cold fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't have such an "axis". It is possible to like only science, only religion, both or neither.

      The "fundamentalist scientist" does not seem very extreme - surely he will accept it whenever someone proves him wrong on some account. Otherwise, he is no scientist.

    5. Re:just a new name for cold fusion by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      The "fundamentalist scientist" does not seem very extreme - surely he will accept it whenever someone proves him wrong on some account. Otherwise, he is no scientist.

      I think that was the point.

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    6. Re:just a new name for cold fusion by Tailhook · · Score: 1

      There was a time

      Thats right. Fraud is a recent phenomena in technology and science, and Bill is the first dupe ever to be swindled. It isn't as though it's so common that there are entire catalogs of scientific frauds going back hundreds of years. Nope. LENR/Cold Fusion is the very first.

      And why are these fraudsters emerging when there were none before? Capitalism. Obviously.

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    7. Re:just a new name for cold fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You people are not even trying to deal with reality. Cold fusion or LENR, it is indeed quite real, proven science for those who care to look.

      This thread is full of BS, easily seen by anyone who goes looking at the real data, the researchers.

      'High Energy physics protecting its budgets' is probably the real intent of this thread.

  2. Palladium foil with just the right parameters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That sounds like a boondoggle, not something that would be useful in a productive environment.

    1. Re:Palladium foil with just the right parameters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The right parameter being 1,000,000 Kelvin.

    2. Re:Palladium foil with just the right parameters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Just the right properties" is not really needed. Simple gas pressure can overcome the need for specially prepared palladium. That is, the classic CF experiments were done at ordinary atmospheric pressure, so it takes a long time for the deuterium to permeate the palladium and, yes, apparently the palladium's molecular structure is important in helping CF to happen (if it happens at all). However, if you simply take a piece of palladium and put it in a pressure chamber, and pump in lots of deuterium gas under pressure, well, not only does it take less time for something interesting to happen, the results are highly repeat-able. Here are some links: old internal NASA paper, a formal journal publication, and a 2010 overview.

    3. Re:Palladium foil with just the right parameters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oops, sorry, goofed on that first link. Here.

    4. Re:Palladium foil with just the right parameters by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

      That sounds like a boondoggle,

      Why? We use vast quantities of things that must conform to very strict parameters, such as every semi conductor. When original research was going on they were extremely time consuming and low yield. Now 2m silicon crystals are commonly grown with impurities less than PPB and virtually zero defects at the molecular level! There's no reason to think this couldn't happen with palladium foil given sufficient resources.

    5. Re:Palladium foil with just the right parameters by DrJimbo · · Score: 2

      There's no reason to think this [cold fusion] couldn't happen with palladium foil given sufficient resources.

      There is at least one overwhelming reason to think this could not happen regardless of how you prepare the palladium: basic physics.

      The Coulomb repulsion of the deuterons keeps them so far apart that the likelihood of fusion is exponentially small. You can muck about with the palladium until the cows come home but unless do something like replace the electrons with muons, it is unlikely you are going to induce a significant amount of cold fusion.

      It is like saying that by applying sufficient resources to painting and body-work, I can fix the engine of my car.

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    6. Re:Palladium foil with just the right parameters by the_povinator · · Score: 1
      I hate Microsoft as much as all of you, but I think Bill Gates is way too smart to support stuff like this.

      The article is full of shit.

      It claims that Gates's blog post here here supports LENR, but it does no such thing (although some people in the comments section do mention it).

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    7. Re:Palladium foil with just the right parameters by the_povinator · · Score: 1

      BTW, I think the real goal of the article is to drive up prices of palladium futures: a pump and dump.

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    8. Re:Palladium foil with just the right parameters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "unless do something like replace the electrons with muons"

      Actually, there are two factors that most "basic physicists" overlook. First is that molecular hydrogen (including deuterium of course) spontaneously breaks down into bare nuclei and loose electrons, inside palladium (main reason it can permeate the metal almost like it wasn't there). Second, an electron bound to a nucleus is limited in how close it can approach the nucleus (must "orbit" at a significant distance). An electron that is not bound to a nucleus is not so limited. And the "conduction band" of a metal like palladium is absolutely chock-full of unbound/loose electrons. So, if inside the palladium there are loose deuterium nuclei, and loose electrons, not required to stay some minimal distance apart, why can't the electrons get between two nuclei and cancel their repulsion (rather like muons can do)? Especially when the most electrically attractive spot, in-between two bare nuclei, is exactly in-between them?

    9. Re:Palladium foil with just the right parameters by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

      Maybe so. The OP seemed to make it out that the palladium sheet was the limiting factor, hence my comment. Granted I don't know much about nuclear physics.

    10. Re: Palladium foil with just the right parameters by smaddox · · Score: 1

      Free electron screening is well understood. It doesn't make LENR feasible.

      Until there is a convincing and well controlled demonstration of paladium/deuterium LENR, or a plausible theoretical mechanism proposed, don't expect people to take it seriously.

    11. Re:Palladium foil with just the right parameters by DrJimbo · · Score: 1

      why can't the electrons get between two nuclei and cancel their repulsion (rather like muons can do)?

      The problem is that the conduction electrons are spread out so they can't clump together in the space between the nuclei. This is due to the low mass of the electron. A muon is very much like an electron but is over 3,000 times more massive; this means it is 3,000 times "smaller" and thus can fit into the small space between the nuclei just fine.

      The problem is not that the electron wave function can't get close to the nuclei. The problem is that the electron wave function can't get clumped together into a large enough peak to counteract the Coulomb repulsion of the nuclei. One way to see this is with the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. Since a muon is 3,000 times more massive than an electron, it has 3,000 times more momentum for the same motion. This extra momentum allows it to be more localized without violating Heisenberg.

      One of the best physicist of the 20th century, Julian Schwinger, investigated cold fusion and felt that the physics community as a whole was closed minded about it. I *think* his idea was there was some sort of collective phenomenon (getting the palladium just right) that accounts for cold fusion. It can't be as simple as simple screening by conduction electrons. TBH, I think Schwinger was past his prime and was grasping for things he could apply his formidable intellect to that would be useful for humanity.

      I believe the reason most physicists have a problem with cold fusion is the lack compelling experimental evidence combined with the lack of any satisfactory theoretical explanation. Remember that almost all of the interest in cold fusion was sparked by the totally discredit experiments by Pons and Fleischmann. The experiments could not be replicated and in new experiments there was no indication of nuclear activity.

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    12. Re: Palladium foil with just the right parameters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Until there is a convincing and well controlled demonstration ..."

      Part of the problem is that many physicists are so convinced CF is impossible they won't look at any evidence to the contrary (like the links presented a few messages above, for highly repeat-able experiments).

      Another part of the problem is that if Coulomb screening by loose electrons can enable CF, they most certainly won't do it the same way that a muon does (because a muon stays bound to a deuterium nucleus, and has enough mass to drag that nucleus closer to another deuterium nucleus). That the muon can often get loose during the fusion event is well known (and so it becomes able to become bound to another deuterium nucleus and catalyze another fusion), but the exact mechanism by which the muon acquires the energy to get loose is not something commonly explained. It doesn't "feel" the Strong Force, and the only Coulomb force present is the one from which it can often escape!

    13. Re:Palladium foil with just the right parameters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is an error in your post. A muon is actually only about 206 times more massive than an electron.

      Of course, that doesn't change the fact that the electron-as-a-wavicle is lots more spread-out than a muon-as-a-wavicle. On the other hand, most of the palladium atoms in the metal have each contributed an electron to the conduction band, plus every dissociated deuterium molecule in the metal has contributed two more electrons (that easy dissociation of hydrogen may be due to the fact that the "electronegativity" values of hydrogen and palladium are practically the same). The same Quantum Mechanics that won't let a single electron stay in one place very long can allow multiple loose electrons to take turns sharing that "one place" --which in this case is directly-in-between two deuterium nuclei (and remember that quantum leaps, jumping into and out-of that "one place" are basically instantaneous). The net effect is that the multiplicity of electrons can, as a group, do Coulomb shielding as well as a muon.

      The next major problem is that the deuterons, deuterium nuclei, are 3600 times as massive as electrons, and if they don't happen to randomly be on a near-perfect collision course, all that Coulomb shielding by electrons won't swerve them to make them fuse. But this is exactly why it is essential to "load" the palladium with lots and lots of deuterium --to increase the odds that some small percentage of deuterons will randomly be on near-perfect collision courses.

      The last major problem is in regard to the claims that the radioactive byproducts of deuteron-deuteron fusion (tritium and loose neutrons) don't seem to be produced in CF experiments at anything like typical rates for hot fusion. This may be explain-able in terms of, "when a muon catalyzes a fusion, how does it acquire energy to get away to catalyze another fusion?" In all properties but mass, electrons and muons are nearly identical. So, if a muon can acquire energy from the fusion reaction, so can an electron. Now look above, at that horde of loose electrons jumping into and out-of that "one place" directly in-between two deuterons. During fusion almost every electron that jumps in-between could acquire some energy (while there is only one muon involved in that catalytic event). How much total energy can all those jumping electrons absorb? Enough to allow Helium-4 to be the most common fusion-product? To be determined!

    14. Re:Palladium foil with just the right parameters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are claims that palladium isn't the only metal that can support LENR. Titanium and nickel have been mentioned in the literature. Possibly, if the electronegativity values of hydrogen and the metal are similar enough that they don't chemically react, quite a few metals may work. The main stumbling-block is the oxide coating that naturally forms on the surface of most metals exposed to air (palladium doesn't have that). Think about how various metal oxides, like aluminum oxide (sapphire) can be used as a leak-resistant container for hydrogen gas. The oxide coating at the surface of a piece of metal thus makes it difficult for hydrogen to permeate the metal. But remove the metal from the air (say, put it in a vacuum chamber), strip off the oxide coating (mechanical grinding, electron beams, specific-frequency lasers, pick something), and then start sending deuterium into the chamber, under pressure, to see what happens...and any "pump and dump" schemer focusing on palladium might be in for a big surprise. All metals have a "conduction band" of loose electrons, and as explained above, that conduction band may be the most important thing, with respect to LENR.

    15. Re: Palladium foil with just the right parameters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But there is a theory now. Google "Bound neutron tunneling Carl-Oscar GullstrÃm".
      Also google "Alexander Parkhomov LENR" Parkhomov have succesfully replicated the Andrea Rossi hot-cat analysed in the Lugano Report.

      Also ask yourself why big oil like shell, exon and bp has divested in oil fields since 2011. Why have the oilprice dropped like a rock? Why were banks positioning themselves for huge shorts before the oil price drop?

  3. Gates is a very lucky man by BoxRec · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think this story really illustrates the fact the Gates was a very lucky man. He was in the right place at the right time (and with the right mother who was a friend of the Chairman of IBM) to be successful. Under any other circumstance it seems he would be pursuing a career in alchemy.

    1. Re:Gates is a very lucky man by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Many of us have had a few good business ideas at some point. The success of many entrepreneurs can be attributed to luck, being in the right place at the right time, and knowing the right people, rather than just having that great idea. But they then also have to recognize the idea as being good, recognize the opportunity presented by Lady Luck (timeliness and the right friends), have the guts to seize the opportunity and stake one's future on it, and then have the wherewithal to build a company around that idea.

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    2. Re:Gates is a very lucky man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    3. Re:Gates is a very lucky man by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Plus the business ability to make it work financially. Plenty of people have the ability to innovate technologically but no skill at business management - they can try and fail, or they can just go work for an established company and give up the possibility of vast wealth in exchange for a near-guarantee of a moderate income.

    4. Re:Gates is a very lucky man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Successful entrepreneurs are rare.

      Luck is rare.
      Knowing the right people is rare.

      Having a great idea is fairly common.
      Recognizing a good idea is common.
      Recognizing an opportunity is common.
      Having guts is fairly common.
      Gambling is common.
      Staking ones future on something is fairly common.
      Having the wherewithal to build a company is fairly common.

      I think you can work out from that, why entrepreneurs are rare, and you fail to mention the most obvious thing: that a few entrepreneurs can easily afford stakes in multiple enterprises.

    5. Re:Gates is a very lucky man by jones_supa · · Score: 3, Funny

      Under any other circumstance it seems he would be pursuing a career in alchemy.

      He did say that he might have pursued physics if he didn't end up in computer science.

    6. Re:Gates is a very lucky man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Plus the business ability to make it work financially.

      That's doesn't need ability, that just needs money. What world do you live in?

    7. Re:Gates is a very lucky man by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Absolutely, and the skill and factors I mentioned are things that increase your chances of success, they by no means guarantee it. While I do believe that there's more to success than stupid luck, I also think that what we can learn from successful entrepreneurs is a great deal less than what MBA teachers and writers of business books lead us to believe. Perhaps Steve Jobs started in a garage at an early age, went for morning walks, always had cereal for lunch, and asked his mom for one piece of business advice every weekend, and made it a point to publicly humiliate at least one of his execs every week, or whatever (I made these up to make a point), but there's little point in blindly copying that behaviour to try and achieve our own success.

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    8. Re:Gates is a very lucky man by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Quite right. And being a bit of a louse like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, who are willing to screw others to any degree for the sake of their own ambition, doesn't hurt either. To make it their level, you need the right mix of luck, technical skills, business acumen, and psychopathy.

    9. Re: Gates is a very lucky man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Getting money involves schmoozing people who have it. Until you're rich yourself (and usually not even then) successfully financing something is a combination of salesmanship and charisma.

    10. Re:Gates is a very lucky man by PPH · · Score: 1

      end up in computer science.

      Pretty much the same way I ended up in computer science. A freshman, on the first day of class in the fall. Not knowing my way around the building, I walked into the wrong classroom.

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    11. Re: Gates is a very lucky man by PPH · · Score: 1

      But that only gets you as far as most of the failures in the dot com boom. The compnies that burned through their investors' money without turning a good idea (or a bad one) into revenue.

      "Business ability" means having the skill set to allocate resources (manpower, capital, etc.) to tasks that move the organization in the direction needed to achieve one's goals.

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    12. Re: Gates is a very lucky man by johncandale · · Score: 1
      Gates was given 300 million by his father.

      He was born in the .01% He didn't have to schmooze

    13. Re:Gates is a very lucky man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Under any other circumstance it seems he would be pursuing a career in alchemy.

      He did say that he might have pursued physics if he didn't end up in computer science.

      So in other words, he might have wound up completely penniless if not for the vast family fortune he was already born with?
      (I say this as a former physicist who transitioned into computer science for the better lifestyle. I now work 1/3 as hard as I did as a(n eternal) post-doc for 5 times the pay.)

  4. Rossi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whatever happened to Andrea Rossi? I was all excited about the E-Cat stuff from 2012, but since then he seems to have disappeared off the face of the Earth...

    1. Re:Rossi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      An 'independent' group of LENR researchers who were not allowed to 'independently' setup/inspect the equipment nor 'independently' operate it (Rossi did) watched it with ridiculously inadequate measuring equipment for 30 days and said it 'works'.

      I think they also independently claimed that the Brooklyn Bridge was a 'good deal' and they should buy it from me, but I haven't seen any money from them yet.

    2. Re:Rossi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Back then in 2012 it was already clear Rossi had nothing. In the mean time we got 2 crappy report from his friends at bologna university & lund (so not independendent) and both were rife of so many error as to be laughable. The last one had Rossi remove the "ashes" which turned out to be something else altogether than previously found, and was Ni 62.... By coincidence Rossi had bought Ni 62 a bit before but that was for "calibration" wink wink.
      Bottom line : forget Rossi. There is a good reason he does not go for full disclosure (patent - you can't keep a secret sauce hidden - which is why all his attempt of patent were refused I think they were for the show as any good IP lawyer would have told Rossi you have to fully disclose everything to pattent) and had ZERO truly independent verification.
       
        as for the state of LENR... Well let us say after an initial enthiusiam I am by now extremly warry of any purported progress , as so far nothing has been reproducible convincingly.

    3. Re:Rossi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Visit E-Catworld if you want to read more about the E-Cat. Basically, Industrial Heat bought his business, then refined the E-Cat a lot, then a study revealing that the invention worked amazingly well was released at the exact same date that oil prices started to go down. Then IH installed the first operative plant which will let visitors come and see it, and shortly after that Bill Gates traveled to Italy to heavily invest in his technology.

    4. Re: Rossi by Capt.Albatross · · Score: 1

      The first sentence in the Wikipedia article: "Andrea Rossi (born 3 June 1950) is an Italian convicted fraudster, inventor and entrepreneur." (Though the footnote to "fraudster" indicates he was ultimately acquitted, on what appears to be a technicality, of the major charges relating to an alleged oil-from-trash scam.) The best you can say about E-Cat is that Rossi seems to be doing everything possible to make it look like a scam (Starts with a Bang.)

      Rossi's E-Cat was the first thing I thought of when I read of Gates trip to Italy, but he was apparently visiting the Frascati ENEA labs of the University of Verona, which is "recognized for excellence in [cold] nuclear fusion research", whatever that means. I do not know if it has any connection to Rossi.

    5. Re:Rossi by wiggles · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Who published this "study" and how was it peer reviewed?

    6. Re: Rossi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must be why Elforsk is starting a research program for LENR... I guess them, NASA, and hagelstein at MIT are all being swindled.

    7. Re:Rossi by savuporo · · Score: 1

      Dude. Even Steorn is still around ! Apparently they started re-tweeting or posting some funnay stuff about the new free house heating systems again. Boggles my mind.

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    8. Re:Rossi by Baloroth · · Score: 3, Informative

      Who published this "study" and how was it peer reviewed?

      I'd guess Snake Oil Monthly, peer reviewed by "homeopathic scientists". Obviously. Or (since Rossi is a tiny bit subtler than that... though only a tiny bit) the """Journal of Nuclear Physics"""*, which (in a startling coincidence) is "published" by Rossi himself (if posting something to a blog counts as published). It may well have been peer reviewed, but of course since Rossi is a fraudster, not a scientist, the peers in this case... well, lets just say they probably have more of a theoretical degree in physics than a degree in theoretical physics.

      *As a side note, this is a good example of why simply because something was "published" in a respected-sounding journal does not mean it's actually trustworthy. I could form the American Journal of Renowned Physics Breakthroughs tomorrow and publish the flimsiest of flim-flam in it. Anyone could.

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  5. LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    LENR means Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, and is most decidedly NOT fusion; the coulomb barrier is not applicable. The mechanism is completely different, the best theory so far is that of Widom-Larsen which explains it using Ultra Low Momentum neutrons. See http://news.newenergytimes.net for details, for the theory http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/WL/WLTheory.shtml .

    1. Re:LENR is not fusion by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Are there any credible, scientific publications on LENR? Most articles on the subject are on Newenergytimes and E-catworld, which are hardly serious.

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    2. Re:LENR is not fusion by BoxRec · · Score: 1

      If it's not fusion and it is definitely not fission then how is it nuclear ? Other than spilt up or join together what else can you possibly do to a nucleus ?

    3. Re:LENR is not fusion by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Many LENR reactions (if not all) are fusion reactions.

      Or how do you call it if a H atom "combines" with another one?

      Low energy fusion in vacuum are researched since the 1890s (yes, eight teen not nine teen), especially japanese, italian and german researchers did stuff like this over 100 years ago. Easy to google btw.

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    4. Re:LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other than spilt up or join together what else can you possibly do to a nucleus ? You could increase or decrease its rotation speed.

    5. Re:LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The most credible information I've seen is this presentation at SRI in California.

      Cafe Sci Silicon Valley: What Happened to Cold Fusion? (Pt 1 of 8) Introduction

      Unless Dr. McKubre is a complete fraud of course.

    6. Re:LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not likely. The modern conception of the atom or nuclear physics hadn't been discovered yet. They were still using the Daltonian atom at that time, and the idea of fusing two atoms to produce a third type wasn't even valid in their model.

    7. Re:LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can change a nucleus other than by merging with another. The Widom-Larsen theory is (as I understand it) that a proton on a metal surface is converted (forced by combined forces of groups of electrons) into a neutron by combining with an electron, and that this no-speed neutron is then easily captured by a nearby nucleus, changing its isotope number. So e.g. nickel would stay nickel but have an extra neutron. This could happens a second time for the same nucleus. If then one of the extra neutrons is converted into a proton, you get the next-higher element in the periodic table, so you have transmutation. Because there is no joining of a proton to an existing nucleus, the coulomb barrier is not relevant; it is exactly that barrier which nuclear fusion must overcome with high energy like laser (see https://lasers.llnl.gov/), or tokamak reactor (e.g. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_European_Torus).

    8. Re:LENR is not fusion by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      You missed decay, which is the most common form of nuclear reaction on Earth. Proton capture can technically be thought of as fusion (fusing a hydrogen nucleus with something heavier), but it generally isn't referred to as such. Neutron capture is not fusion and a lot of LENR reactions are neutron capture.

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    9. Re:LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      That's about all that comes to mind. Maybe

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    10. Re: LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If usg *really* wanted to hand the world or at least their allies a great energy source, they would simply offer reactor design and operations training by usn. They have a perfect record.
      But that would threaten the petro dollar, the petro wars and the Saudi piggy bank for useless people like gwb. Russia would be pissed also, as their sweet laziness would come to an end. This sri guy is a usg bulls hitter.

    11. Re:LENR is not fusion by kesuki · · Score: 1

      nuclear reaction. fission is to fusion as a square is to rectangle. they are not the same thing but fusion and fission are both nuclear reactions. just because cold fusion is bunk doesn't mean it's not a 'nuclear reaction' of decidedly low energy.

    12. Re:LENR is not fusion by radtea · · Score: 1

      the best theory so far is that of Widom-Larsen

      Widom-Larsen requires an implausible mix of scales. The effective mass of heavy electrons in the solid state is a collective phenomenon happening over distances and time-scales that are large relative to the nucleus and nuclear time-scales and affect the dynamics of the electron's interaction with the lattice, on those scales. To impute to these large-scale effects efficacy at the nuclear scale is very unlikely to be correct.

      Consider a car analogy: a car moving along a freeway in dense traffic interacts with all the cars around it. If the driver accelerates, they will pull up close to the care behind and that driver may speed up a bit too, sending a diminishing wave of acceleration through the traffic, so compared to the same car alone on the road the car in dense traffic appears to have a much higher effective mass. Alone, you hit the gas and speed up a lot. In traffic, you hit the gas and speed up a little bit. That's what the electron in the surface looks like: a car in traffic.

      But on the scale of car-car interactions, the "bare" mass of the car is what matters. If two cars collide you get an energy of 0.5*m*v^2, not 0.5*Meff*v^2.

      Yeah, there are multi-car pileups that muddy the analogy, but they add up to nothing like the effective mass of the whole traffic block, so there. And the difference in scales between "cars and traffic" is tiny compared to the difference in scales between "nuclei and the lattice", so the effect that analogy hopefully makes obvious will be that much larger in the latter case.

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    13. Re:LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are there any credible, scientific publications on LENR? Most articles on the subject are on Newenergytimes and E-catworld, which are hardly serious.

      This site features a library of papers on LENR, Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, also known as Cold Fusion. (CANR, Chemically Assisted Nuclear Reactions is another term for this phenomenon.) The library includes more than 1,000 original scientific papers reprinted with permission from the authors and publishers. The papers are linked to a bibliography of over 3,500 journal papers, news articles and books about LENR:

      http://lenr-canr.org/

    14. Re:LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NewEnergyTimes itself is not a scientific journal, of course. But it lists quite a few publications in scientific journals, see http://newenergytimes.com/v2/reports/Selected-LENR-Research-Papers.shtml . For instance. look at the transmutation section, or the hydrogen gas section (especially with nickel). The Widom-Larsen theory itself was published in European Physical Journal C - Particles and Fields, Vol. 46(1), p.107-110 (2006) , according to the NewEnergyTimes list.

    15. Re:LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the best theory so far is that of Widom-Larsen

      Widom-Larsen requires an implausible mix of scales. The effective mass of heavy electrons in the solid state is a collective phenomenon happening over distances and time-scales that are large relative to the nucleus and nuclear time-scales and affect the dynamics of the electron's interaction with the lattice, on those scales. To impute to these large-scale effects efficacy at the nuclear scale is very unlikely to be correct.

      This is reasoning not backed by data, at least you show none; and your use of "very unlikely to be correct" makes me think there is no data.
      Widom-Larsen (and Srivastava) do predictions based on their theory, and according to newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/WL/WLTheory.shtml#papers (scroll down a little) their theory's predictions seem to match measurements (data).
      If you have a better theory, excellent, but show the data and the theory.

    16. Re:LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is catalyzed fusion, which is not new:

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon-catalyzed_fusion

    17. Re:LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the problems in getting LENR peer reviewed is that "established science" is too afraid to do peer review, just in case they might fail to disprove it.

    18. Re:LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In LENR, you are not merging atoms (if Widom-Larsen is correct). You are converting a proton to a neutron, that gets captured by a nearby nucleus, and once enough have captured, one of the extra neutrons turns into a proton. See the theory referenced earlier. There is no gamma radiation involved. If there was gamma radiation, it would be the traditional fusion. The fact that gamma rays are not detected while transmutation takes place is proof that fusion isn't involved, but another mechanism. The use of an existing theory to explain away new facts is not science; a new theory is needed.

    19. Re:LENR is not fusion by JohanAkerstrom · · Score: 1

      I am no scientist but I thought that the Widom-Larsen theory was pretty much dismissed. Having said that, Carl-Oscar Gullström has recenty published a theory and calculations within the standard model . Search on his name and Bound Neutron Tunneling and you will find the theory. His work is on 2D quantum mechanics so it needs updating to a real world 3D model but yet it points to a possible explanation of the "Rossi effect". And it does not require any new science just good old Copenhagen interpretation if I'm not mistaken.

  6. Cold Fusion by mentil · · Score: 5, Funny

    640 Kelvin ought to be enough for anybody.

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  7. Gates, an inventor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I threw up my breakfast, you insensitive clod!

  8. Not a sponsor! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop this shit. Ever wonder why Gates still has his billions? Gates is not a sponsor, but an investor. The aim is to make profit.
    http://nextbigfuture.com/2014/11/reports-from-italy-that-bill-gates.html

    1. Re:Not a sponsor! by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      Well, there's his stated goals, but golly gee, it isn't his fault if his money earned/spent during his lifetime outlives him is it? Think about The Foundation.

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    2. Re:Not a sponsor! by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Foundation and Empire? With Gates as the Mule?

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    3. Re:Not a sponsor! by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      I was going to say, the simile isn't entirely apt because Gates hasn't been totally successful as the Mule. And then I realized, the Mule wasn't entirely, either. So point to you.

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  9. A Fool and His Money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A fool and his money are easily parted.

    1. Re:A Fool and His Money by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      A fool and his money are easily parted.

      But not an atom and it's neutron, nosiree!!!

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    2. Re:A Fool and His Money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And some fools simply seem to make money from nothingness. Ye.

  10. Whoops by benjfowler · · Score: 2

    There's a sucker born every minute.

    The cold fusion scam rolls on.

    1. Re:Whoops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It looks like you were born a minute ago, then.

      Hint: Bill Gates is far more intelligent than you, and has already seen a working plant, which is why he is investing on a technology that is going to displace oil and outright kill renewables. Whereas most people in slashdot are brainwashed and gullible morons that would rather invest in the most useless and most expensive form of energy generation: photovoltaics.

    2. Re:Whoops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL, photovoltaics are the most useless and most expensive form of energy generation. Talk about brainwashing.
      Cold fusion has been under development for more than 100 years, and is so cheap that we still need more money from Bill Gates to make it a commercial success :-)

    3. Re:Whoops by Dr.+Tom · · Score: 1

      why you so down on renewables? can't kill sunlight

    4. Re: Whoops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      environmental regulatations in China will kill PV. the production is so insanely toxic that there is no credibility to the dumping, jusr a trail of cancer and deformed babirs downwind and downstream.

    5. Re:Whoops by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bill Gates is far more intelligent than you,

      That needs a big 'citation needed' next to it, but:

      and has already seen a working plant, which is why he is investing on a technology that is going to displace oil and outright kill renewables.

      You don't understand risk analysis. He's investing a very small proportion of his wealth in something that may have massive returns. The probability of said returns may be small, but that doesn't make it a bad investment if the potential payoffs are huge, as long as you can afford to take the loss if it doesn't pan out. Most people with his money will invest a few millions in a few fringe ideas, because it only takes one to pay off to more than make up for your investment. The majority of his portfolio will be in relatively safe investments with a close-to-guaranteed return, a bit will be in risky venture.

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    6. Re: Whoops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "will kill PV" ... in China.
      Germany has much stricter environmental regulations, but PV (cell and panel) manufacturers don't seam to have these dumping problems.
      (I'm downwind from Germany, and have not noticed any deformations...)

    7. Re:Whoops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt Gates is far more intelligent than me. It's mostly luck and (lack of) honesty that made him a bit richer.
      Anyway, I'm sure he is intelligent enough to see this is a scam, an not a high-risk high-payoff bet, and (until now) he was not personally aware his charity fund was investing in this.

    8. Re:Whoops by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Wow. Hero worship much?

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    9. Re:Whoops by DanielRavenNest · · Score: 1

      > Whereas most people in slashdot are brainwashed and gullible morons that would rather invest in the most useless and most expensive form of energy generation: photovoltaics.

      I guess you think Warren Buffet is a moronic investor too:

      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/...

    10. Re:Whoops by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      which is why he is investing on a technology that is going to displace oil and outright kill renewables.
      Why should any power source build on LENR kill renewables?
      First you need plants, takes decades to build a big plant.
      Then they need to be _cheaper_ than the renewables.
      And the main problem: do LENR plants even produce enough heat to be feasable as electric power plant?

      Perhaps a 'table top' fusion/LENR plant is usefull to heat a room, or even a house or for cooking, but making it usefull for an electric plant is a long way to go.

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  11. western world full of frauds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Italy and Germany had nuclear power. We even had a large scale thorium berserk running here. Through the violent work of Maoist traitors, this threat to the oil and gaze industry has been killed.
    Europe is a rotten place run by occupiers and traitors.

    1. Re: western world full of frauds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      Thorium reactor. Android error correction....

      Europe sends lots of money to Russia and Saudi medieval Stan. Our youth is out of jobs instead of building reactors. Rotten...

      Look at China, they are not filled with oil industry bulls. Their engineers at the top build nuclear reactors. Lots of it. A rising nation with a strong army instead of a shit house.
      Russia just commisioned a breeder reactor. They can do that because they don't have green Maoist forces in their countries. Because they are actually sovereign.

    2. Re:western world full of frauds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least "Europe" seems to attempt to build ITER. Move off. What would your kind even be without Europe?

    3. Re:western world full of frauds by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      What on earth are you banging on about?

      Germany had a thorium reactor, THTR-300. It was a buggy piece of junk.

      The CDU got Germany out of nuclear power (fucking idiots). No maoists were involved.

      Berlesconi got Italy out of nukes. No maoists involved.

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    4. Re: western world full of frauds by Dr.+Tom · · Score: 1

      Nice! Love it! We should all use the term berserk from now on. Especially a large scale thorium berserk.
      Of course the plural is taken ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B...

    5. Re: western world full of frauds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By now the Cdu are virtual Maoist's and merkel clings to power using Maoist bulls hit. The Maoist's simply have the better agitprop and foreign COmint on their side.

    6. Re: western world full of frauds by goarilla · · Score: 1

      I wonder what special ingredient was added to your Christmas cake.

    7. Re: western world full of frauds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Waiter, I'd like some of what he's having, please.

    8. Re: western world full of frauds by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      And here I thought I was the only one having difficulty parsing that.

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  12. "pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by duckintheface · · Score: 3, Interesting

    TFA calls Gates a pioneer. Well, the covered wagon part is right. Please name something of value that was invented by Gates himself. Give up? Ok, without looking it up.... name something of real scientific or technological value invented by Microsoft Research Labs. That lab allowed Gates to take enormous tax write-offs but never produced any scientific or tecnological break-throughs. But hey, it was all in good tax-dodging fun, right?

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    1. Re: "pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Gates was essential for three acceptance of software patents. That was innovative for the legal system. Oh wait, you mentioned technology.

  13. Scam by AgentElrond · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This smells like a scam of some sort - I can't find any credible sources that link Gates to LENR, and the linked page also includes predictions by a financial astrologer. All the related links I dig into go nowhere but the same set of fringe / crackpot cold fusion sites. Anyone have anything firm on Gates involvement?

    1. Re:Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a photograph on E-Catworld of Bill Gates with the Italian Scientists. "Lefties" spread FUD and LIES about LERN and Nuclear energy because they pose a huge risk towards their control of Oil (socialists) or renewables (liberals), so you will be in the dark if all you visit are sites corrupted by the lefties, like Wikipedia or Slashdot. In fact, lefties even spread FUD and LIES on Fracking because it makes the oil prices to go down, practically every week there's an article on lefties sites spreading bullshit about how cheap oil is bad because it "makes renewables less desirable".

      Once you understand that "lefties" encompasses all evil dictators and genociders of the 20th and 21th Century AND drug cartels and mafia AND practically all terrorist groups AND most billionaries and CEOs of evil corporations on Earth AND most owners of the big and corrupted media (including MPAA, RIAA, Hollywood and Disney) that control the narrative, you stop listening to their lies, as they serve ONLY to their interests, and their interests are solely to SCREW YOU hard. In their utopia money doesn't exist and you work for them for free. Heck, that's how many of these lefties got rich in the first place, by making thousands of morons like you to work for free on their "open source" or "web 2.0" projects: wikipedia, firefox, etc. They don't need to work hard, they only need to spread the news on all their propaganda channels and let the 0.001% of the people that falls victim to spam tricks to do their duty.

    2. Re:Scam by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Once you understand that "lefties" encompasses all evil dictators and genociders of the 20th and 21th Century AND drug cartels and mafia AND practically all terrorist groups AND most billionaries and CEOs of evil corporations on Earth AND most owners of the big and corrupted media (including MPAA, RIAA, Hollywood and Disney) that control the narrative, you stop listening to their lies, as they serve ONLY to their interests

      Wait, really? Are you trolling, or just completely batshit bingo ball crazy?

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    3. Re:Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Kitco is very bullish on precious metals - so the source is suspect - have a read of some of their other stories.

    4. Re:Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      See http://news.newenergytimes.net/ . Gates visited the Frascati LENR laboratory on 2014-11-12 if I interpret the article correctly. You could check the Enea website if you know Italian :-)

    5. Re:Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you must feed the trolls, please at least have the sense to disable your karma bonus.

    6. Re:Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could also be that your life is a lie because you never bothered to look at the world. Fact is, almost all terrorist groups are either extreme-left OR muslim, almost all dictators or genociders of the 20th and 21th Century have been either socialist or communist, including the nazis and the fascists, claiming otherwise is doublethink and interested lies created by Stalin and spreaded through "left-controlled" public education or media. Practically all oil producing countries are ruled by socialist dictators, or by socialist president sockpuppets (Kirchner, etc). Practically all drug plantations (except tobacco) are controlled by left leaning terrorist groups or islamic groups, which is why lefties are cynically pro-drugs but against tobacco.
      The giant technology corporations (Microsoft, IBM, Google, etc), the most socialist universities (California, San Francisco, Harvard, etc), and the giant Hollywood studios are the biggest donors of the democrat party in USA. https://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00009638

      If you look at a list of the most richest people on Earth, 99% are either socialist or communists, and got rich because they either were a socialist dictator or politician, a drug lord, or thanks to a socialist government-granted monopoly, or thanks to laws tailored to their sole benefit (such as copyright extension).
      http://wallstcheatsheet.com/business/top-10-wealthiest-people-in-the-world-2014-edition.html/?a=viewall

      Practically all media you watch is controlled by a handful of socialist corporations: http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6 really, look at their background and what party gets their politic donations.
      Practically all evil dictators and genociders belong to the same political group: the International Socialist. That groups included gems such as Mubarak, Saddam Hussein, or Gaddafi. http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/02/04/socialist_international_kicks_out_mubarak.html
      The worst genociders in the 20th Century, Mao, Pol Pot and Stalin? All of them communists. Fascists and communists have traditionally killed each other because both want to be on top of a socialist dictatorship and they despise competitors, but their regimes are the same in practice.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

      Note how the left media will always try to defend or excuse muslim terrorism (except when it tries to overthrow one of their socialist dictators), and why despite being terribly feminist, will always excuse too the situation of the women in muslim countries, even the most extreme feminist politician will know when to shut up as she risks getting the boot. That is because islamists and socialist are allies. The left was massively mobilized against the Iraq war because they controlled the country, Saddam Hussein was one of their boys. As soon as they lost Iraq they sent thousands of troops and terrorists to try to recover it, and at the same time started a campaign to tell the UN troops to leave so that they would have an easier time reconquering it. THEY are the ones behind ISIS and Al Qaeda, but ISIS has become a monster they can no longer control.

      It is known that oil countries finance radical-left political groups and terrorists in other countries as a way to destabilize them politically. For example, there are documents proving that Chavez financed the FARC in Colombia and ETA in Spain; Obama "mistakingly" gave lots of weapons to mexican drug lords, that were supposed to be tracked but were not; or that Iran is behind Podemos in Spain, who is a party composed by communists who, surprise, surprise, practically all have a background as public education managers or teachers, who got their place by "direct designation" when public education got hijacked in 1983 by the socialist party and has been since then a nest of filled with corruption, nepotism, and communists. In fact, you can become a teacher with a score of 0 in the entrance exams, but you cannot get a career as public educator without being indoctrinated in Carl Marx beforehand.

      Excuse me if I don't link everything, but otherwise I would trigger slashdot's filters.

    7. Re:Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      haha so Russia, Saudi Arabia and the US are ruled by socialist dictators?, I hope you have "mistakingly" written something to that effect.

    8. Re:Scam by WindBourne · · Score: 2

      The good news for you is that ACA is now available. You should be able to restore your lithium, and even increase your dosage.

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    9. Re:Scam by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Sssh. He's entertaining.

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    10. Re: Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might also consider that quite a few banksters share plenty of ideas with commies. Both are nasty illusionists.
      Saddam was not a nasty guy compared to the usual folks George bush brought to power. Or compared to the wicked evil of Saudi.

    11. Re:Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there is a tag, specific to slashdot called URL http://pastebin.com/JyUSYFb4

    12. Re:Scam by radtea · · Score: 1

      This smells like a scam of some sort

      While I don't disagree on the smell, Gates is richer than God, and the first thing I thought on seeing this was that if I had that kind of money I might spend a bit of it on wigged-out ideas, just in case. It's like me throwing a panhandler a buck just 'cause I can.

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    13. Re:Scam by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      If you must feed the trolls, please at least have the sense to disable your karma bonus.

      What? What is it good for, then? It's a shiny lure.

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    14. Re:Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From what I read about the visit he wasn't specifically going to the LENR lab but other areas. It was discounted that he put money into LENR in November shortly after the visit, so I am doubtful this is actually true.

    15. Re:Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once you understand that "lefties" encompasses all evil dictators and genociders of the 20th and 21th Century AND drug cartels and mafia AND practically all terrorist groups AND most billionaries and CEOs of evil corporations on Earth AND most owners of the big and corrupted media (including MPAA, RIAA, Hollywood and Disney) that control the narrative, you stop listening to their lies, as they serve ONLY to their interests

      Wait, really? Are you trolling, or just completely batshit bingo ball crazy?

      Not the original, I will not compete on "oil" comments...but yes, "lefties" (corporate communism) is what runs the world.

      Look at this in terms of "programming language with special keywords" ... at the risk of being a moral relativist, you just have to speak the language:

      genocide == murder == against "God" == lefty
      drug cartels and mafia == murder + against the free market, fix things every time == against "God" == lefty
      terrorist groups == do not believe individual lives have value == against "God" == lefty
      corrupted media == buy laws and condition us (disrespect for individual souls) == against "God" == lefty

      from this perspective, yes, internationalists + globalists:

      -- owe no allegiance to any nation
      -- owe no allegicance to any "God", will kill / starve / whatever it takes to achieve their goals
      -- do not believe we have individual souls, we are to be conditioned/brainwashed like dogs into compliance, punished + rewarded until we "learn" how to obey

      What the rant leaves out, is that the guise is all under "world peace" ... and at least in the U.S. much of the damage was done by "conservative" "right-wing" "God's Old Party" ... and that the "Republicans" are 99% now all "lefties" too .....

      Simply put: billionaires prefer / demand corporate communism to a free market, every single time. Yes, the rich are all "lefties" ... one single "global" economy is more profitable and easier to manage than a thousand independent nations, each playing by their own rules, not coerced (gov. not bought) into writing laws to merge with a "global" economy......

      free markets are simply harder to control, more unstable, less predictable, less efficient, and less profitable.

      yes, the billionaires are all "lefties" and purchase governments, writing laws and getting taxpayer money (or breaks/exemptions, same thing) since that is more profitable and more efficient than a free market and having to compete
      with anyone else.

      another way of looking at it is simply, billionaires may not be "lefties" but if they can make money on top of communism / leeching off of the taxpayer...they will...they will simply not stop communism / war / genocide ...so by virtue of doing nothing as long as the money keeps rolling in, they effectively are all "lefties" because they will all turn a blind eye to lefty causes if it makes them money

      In their utopia money doesn't exist and you work for them for free. Heck, that's how many of these lefties got rich in the first place, by making thousands of morons like you to work for free on their "open source" or "web 2.0" projects: wikipedia, firefox, etc.

      I will take a strong stand here, open source != communism...when voluntarily done...

      Now, should GPL-promoting foundations be tax exempt in the U.S. ? Probably not, that is robbing taxpayer money (exemptions, same thing) to promote:

      -- international causes
      -- further restrictions on things taxpayer money produced, than just handing out "free money" no strings attached (pro free market, you could spend it however you like)

      Then again, every "church" tends to have these same faults.

      Taxpayer-funded software should have ZERO restrictions on use...at most, a "public domain" notice slapped on it, that legally can be removed at any time.

      So, on its face, "open s

    16. Re:Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because it makes the oil prices to go down

      I will not comment on "fracking" but yes, this is entirely accurate...Goldman Sachs and many others, have been known to advise investors in one thing, while betting the opposite themselves...."pump and dump"

      It is no mystery.....large corporations and billionaires HATE free markets...they will use any means necessary (propaganda, lies, gossip, plant stories) to make prices rise or fall as needed....

      Not a "conspiracy" just cold hard truth...communism (controlled markets) is more profitable and more efficient to billionaires.....nothing funny or loony about that, just the truth.

    17. Re:Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once you understand that "lefties" encompasses all evil dictators and genociders of the 20th and 21th Century AND drug cartels and mafia AND practically all terrorist groups AND most billionaries and CEOs of evil corporations on Earth AND most owners of the big and corrupted media (including MPAA, RIAA, Hollywood and Disney) that control the narrative

      This is true. "Lefties" all want to play "God."

      Wait, really? Are you trolling, or just completely batshit bingo ball crazy?

      Speak for myself (not original post) but really, that is 100% accurate. You have to understand the lingo and I think you will agree 100% yourself:

      -- "lefties" want to be "God" (one world government)
      -- "lefties" think they can control everything (people, media, nature...the list goes on and on)

      Now, part of the confusion may simply be there is no "right" at all....was taken from power long ago.....any "right" winger dumb enough to think they are running things is a fucking moron.................

      You have to understand, anyone who tells you "God is in control" or "God is running things" is a complete fucking moron....because God is obsolete and technology and conditioning (mastery learning...see khan academy for an example) and technology runs things now....and we have no individual souls....have not had them for quite a long time....we are just dogs to be conditioned + salivate + beg + sit as the stimuli hit us.....else we are punished (reward withheld).......

      From that POV, yes, the people who control things are all "lefties" because they do not believe we have individual souls.

      Whatever your views....playing "God" is not a "right-wing" thing to do..............I will grant you, many who SAY or CLAIM to be "righties" are 100% frauds and posers, or brainwashed lunatics themselves.....

      yes, "lefties" think they can play "God".......I am amazed anyone would disagree with this....again, many "righties" are actually "lefties" .... or have the same authoritarian streak....."left" "right" "authoritarian" doesn't really matter what you call it, the end result is:

      some people believe they should be allowed to control others to get what they want

      You can certainly say "God" and "righties" are no different...but in their lingo, they would tell you:

      -- that was not "God" just a fake / fraud / they were doing it wrong / they have no clue what they actually serve

      So at this point it is useless to try and convince you either way...just if you understand the lingo I believe the parent poster was using, I find it hard to imagine ANYONE would disagree............

      collectivism == doesn't respect individual souls, we are all here just to be used == goes against "God" == a "lefty" cause

      From that perspective, yes, the billionaires are all "lefties"

      Part of the problem is many "righties" are on the same global collectivism path...because they are greedy pieces of shit, and do not serve "God" at all.....does that clear things up?

      Parent can certainly correct me if I am interpreting wrong, just my 2c and parent poster may have a totally different view......again, I see this as 100% plain as day......you just have to understand many "righties" are POSERS and FRAUDS and LYING (or deluded and brainwashed) and blinded by money.....

      politicians are all idiots and greedy the world over....is that so hard to understand?

      billionaires only care about maintaing control + power + money....is that so hard to understand? free markets are more difficult for this objective.....if anything, free markets are an obstacle (not the lack of obstacles) from the point of view of "maintaining the status quo" ..... really, this should be plain as day...

      I can only guess your criticism stems from the tone and rhetoric of the parent post...I find it hard to believe ANYONE would disagree with what (IMO) are the main points...just need to do a little "translating" first perhaps...parent post does not have a crazy viewpoint at all...

    18. Re:Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      marketing people around the world are all godless communist lefty psychopaths, only in it for the money...again, is that so hard to believe?

      nothing "crazy" about that at all, plain as day....we are just slabs of meat to be "molded" ...

      lawyers who believe copyright law should be the same all around the world, are all godless communist lefty psychopaths, only in it for the money...again, is that really that big of a stretch?

      parent poster is 100% correct.

  14. The Palladium bit did me in by scotts13 · · Score: 2

    The stopped just short of saying he was going to imbed an arc reactor in his chest. A superhero, he ain't.

    1. Re:The Palladium bit did me in by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      He has the power of Super Money. Plenty of superhero setting characters have that power, usually in conjunction with a high skill level in another field.

    2. Re:The Palladium bit did me in by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Power of Super Money, perviously known for using hyper-aggressive business stratagies often anticompetative and bordering on ilegal, personal interest in developing energy technology, capable of some innovation on his own but more commonly hires more specialised underlings... is this Gates or Luthor?

  15. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by bluemonq · · Score: 2

    Pretty sure ClearType came from them. There's also C#, though I suppose some would argue about its technological value. They also did a pretty heavy duty astronomy visualization program that I forget the name of.

  16. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by duckintheface · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I guess you have made my case. :) Fonts. A minor derivative language. Astronomy visualization. For these the US taxpayer sacrificed $billons in lost revenue that had to be made up from the taxes of hard-working creative folks who actually make useful things. Gates didn't build his monopoly the old fashiioned (and legal) way. Microsoft inherited an OS monopoly from IBM becasue IBM was arrogant enough to think that only IBM could sell operating systems. Microsoft stole their monopoly in internet browsers from Netscape, for which they were convicted and fined (not heavily enough). Microsoft could go away tomorrow and the world would be a better place.

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  17. Stirling D Allan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe Striling will be Gates' adviser as he investigates all this kinda stuff. He might even get some money for some of the more "real" free energy devices out there before the big companies close them down.... ;)

  18. This is not that DRM thing then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The sad thing is that this richest man in the world would probably have achieved far more with his stated philantropic goals, if not his own endeavours, if he'd not pulled as much monies out of various markets with his overpriced underperforming software.

  19. Palladium is tightly controlled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good luck getting enough palladium, seeing as how Russia controls what 60% of the world's supply of the metal.

  20. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had thought Woz from Apple invented Clear Type, but called it something else. Wasn't there some big legal battle over that specific thing between Apple inventing it and MS stealing it?

    Nothing innovative about C# either. Java and VMs for running code already worked. JSP pages were already a thing. Delphi simple to program OO language was already in existence. C# just put that all together nicely.

    Gates did make one of the original versions of Basic that ran on microprocessors. Don't think he invented it, but at its time I understand was at least one of the best if not the best. I'm not aware of anything he "invented" after that though.

  21. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Research" was inventing (i.e: writing) code.
    Microsoft core business is shipping it to customers. Microsoft has never been a software company, they are a delivery service.

  22. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by SpzToid · · Score: 1

    This free Microsoft tool for automatically stiching images together to make a panorama is pretty freaking amazing, and I am no Microsoft fanboi for sure.

    http://research.microsoft.com/...

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  23. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sub-pixel rendering was invented by Apple. Microsoft only patented there implementation called ClearType, which uses 3 sub-pixels instead of 2 sub-pixels, and is carefully worded around the existing Apple patent. The Apple patent is referenced in the Microsoft patent.

  24. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by SpzToid · · Score: 1

    Woz did a text aliasing trick using RGB colors.

    For the record, the Wozniak patent is explicitely referenced in the [Microsoft U.S. Patent 6,188,385]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  25. Wait, I've seen it before... by Jade_Wayfarer · · Score: 1

    Palladium-based fusion reactor? Hmm... I wonder, is he secretly building an Iron Man suit in his basement?

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  26. Technically Illiterate by Capt.Albatross · · Score: 3, Informative

    The 'Tech Metals Insider' article contains a link to what it describes as another of its articles on Low Energy Nuclear Reactors, but it is actually about the hohlraums used in some inertial-confinement laser fusion research. The author is apparently unaware that this is a very different technology, and so cannot be regarded as a reliable guide on the subject.

  27. The KITCO article claim re Gates is fake and false by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nowhere does Bill Gates, in his blog or elsewhere, explicitly state that he believes in and/or support so-called LENR.

    This is just another one of many ongoing scams by the e-CAT/LENR conmen to fleece the credulous.

    A side result is exposing the reality that most computer sci types / software programmers know bupkes about physics and chemistry.

  28. Why is this on kitco? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Now that gold has tanked, they need to promote the sale of palladium to gullible investors.

  29. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok, without looking it up.... name something of real scientific or technological value invented by Microsoft Research Labs.

    Kinect.

  30. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I still have the (free) original beta binaries from AutoStich (2003/2004). (and regularly us them)
    I thought Microsoft hired the person behind AutoStich, and took over the project (AutoStich was deleted from the internet for many years),
    but they are back now, and Microsoft seams to license there work: http://www.cs.bath.ac.uk/brown/autostitch/autostitch.html#licensing
    In any case, it was effeminately not invented, not implemented first by Microsoft.

    OK, Microsoft "invented" that sub-pixel font rendering could also be done with 3 sub-pixels instead of 2, and "invented" the "ClearType" name.
    anything else?

  31. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by clovis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    TFA calls Gates a pioneer. Well, the covered wagon part is right. Please name something of value that was invented by Gates himself. Give up? Ok, without looking it up.... name something of real scientific or technological value invented by Microsoft Research Labs. That lab allowed Gates to take enormous tax write-offs but never produced any scientific or tecnological break-throughs. But hey, it was all in good tax-dodging fun, right?

    Or, you could look up the definition of the word "pioneer".
    Here you go: "among the first or earliest to enter a new field of inquiry, Enterprise, or progress."
    Bill Gates and Microsoft clearly meets that definition regarding the personal computer

  32. LENR is not fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LENR means Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, and is most decidedly NOT fusion; the coulomb barrier is not applicable. The mechanism is completely different, the best theory so far is that of Widom-Larsen which explains it using Ultra Low Momentum neutrons. See http://news.newenergytimes.net for details, for the theory http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/WL/WLTheory.shtml .

    Yes, it is fusion... okay maybe I should say "it would be fusion if LENR would work".

    It might not be the normal fusion with the "high activation energy" we would expect, but the results are the same... you take two atoms and after the process you have left different atoms with a lower total mass... and you get the difference of the mass (mostly) in form of gamma radiation. This process is called nuclear fusion.

    And that is (in my opinion) the reason why most (or all) LENR reactors are a sham... they don't produce the gamma radiation to explain the mass difference between their "fuel" and the "leftover" material. E=m*c^2 is a bitch, right?

  33. Other ideas for Blliy by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Funny
    I was just on Youtube, and they have energy figured out:

    You can heat your house with two tea candles and a couple clay flower pots:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Perpetual motion:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    There is a lot more. These guys and gals have us to the point of completely free energy.

    But while the communist cabal of evil "real" scientists are all busy trying to shackle the world with their hoohaw global warming money and freedom grab when they aren't out killing puppies, and figuring out ways to break Jerry Sandusky out of jail - the true inventors working tirelessly in their garages have solved all our energy problems

    WAKE UP AMERICA! from a cave in Idaho, where men are still men, and the sheep are pretty nervous

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  34. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bad example: That's a "Primesense" technology. :/

  35. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't know if this was an invention, but it certainly was pioneering: Microsoft 8K BASIC. It was originally written by Gates and his buddy Paul Allen personally. (You've got to start somewhere.)

    MS 8K BASIC came built in ROM with all of the microcomputers of a certain era: TRS-80, the Apple II, and my own beloved (but obscure) Ohio Scientific. Note that Apple's own Integer Basic, written by Woz, wasn't nearly the success on the Apple II, though it had its following. The Apple II wouldn't have been nearly the success it was without MS 8K BASIC to help make it mainstream.

    I learned assembly language originally by studying Gate's and Allen's handiwork. My Ohio Scientific had a 6502 processor, and after reading a book on 6502 assembly language to learn some basic principles, I *really* learned 6502 assembly by studying disassembly listings of 8K BASIC. It was a marvel of clever assembly techniques. It may be hard to appreciate at this point the impact of that little 8K piece of code. It's what made the fledgling microcomputer business viable for hobbyists a few years before the IBM PC made "personal computers" viable for businesses and your grandma.

    Oh, and let's not forget Gate's innovations as a monopolist. I don't know the details, but one can't logically disparage him as a monopolist without recognizing his pioneering innovations in the field of monopoly. For example, his ongoing rant at the time about "Microsoft needs the freedom to innovate", while having built a business on doing nothing but copying the (technical) innovations of others was actually kindda innovative, in a business sense. Of course, John D. Rockerfeller and others had pioneered monopoly a century earlier, but one can't help but recognize that Gates must have pushed the monopolist's state-of-the-art of a bit further. For example, Rockerfeller certainly didn't invent "embrace, extend and extinguish". So, let's give credit where credit's due.

    (Note to moderators: before you down-mod me for saying positive things about Bill Gates here, please note the ironic undertone of the last paragraph.)

  36. Palladium? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I first thought that these reactors were going to be based on "Microsoft Palladium", the infamous trusted computing technology from MS. Cold fusion with DRM, why not?

  37. Traveling Wave Reactor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What ever happened to the TWR? I have heard Gates promote the idea since the TED Talks

    1. Re: Traveling Wave Reactor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have Not heard, I meant

  38. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am willing to go out on a limb and quote a lot more than that:

    1: Active Directory. Yes, it is Kerberos compatible, but it is the only infrastructure that can scale to millions, if not billions of users. OpenLDAP can't do more than just domains, and businesses need trees and forests for their organizational structure.

    2: Exchange. IBM and Google are exceptions since they eat their own dog food, but every other big company has their messaging on Exchange.

    3: GPOs. Try to manage thousands of desktops with another management system. Good luck.

    4: BitLocker. It may not be as "cool" as TrueCrypt, but it not just has security, but flexibility to deal with eDiscovery rules in the enterprise.

    5: Storage Spaces and ReFS. Linux still does not have a production filesystem that can detect and correct bit rot.

    6: DHCP. MS invented this because there wasn't anything that was even comparable. BOOTP for thousands of desktops? Yeah, right.

    7: IPSec. MS didn't invent it, but they did make a working implementation.

    8: Offline file deduplication on the filesystem level. Still no other mainstream OS has this functionality. Yes, there are hacks that do this, but we are meaning production here, where deduplication on a share with backups on it can save a lot of space.

    9: SMB. With SMB v3, one checkbox enables encryption for shares. NFS has come a long way, but nowhere near as secure, and V4 requires Kerberos for user functionality.

    10: ActiveSync. It doesn't matter what the device is, if it hooks to Exchange, it can be remotely wiped. This functionality has been around longer than iOS or Android.

  39. Inventor? by paiute · · Score: 1, Troll

    Someone please tell me something Gates invented other than how to lawyer your way to a billion.

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  40. Re: "pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's right you know.

  41. Re:Mockery is pointless...Research is essential.. by careysub · · Score: 2

    I see a lot of "fool and his money" posts and it's nonsense or pseudoscience. And I see a lot of posts on "Fusion being 20, 30, or even 40 years away" from posters when stories on hot fusion are posted here.

    So given the lack of progress in hot fusion after billions have been spent and decades wasted,...

    Thermonuclear fusion has made progress - the evidence so far is that the tokamak system can be scaled up to commercial plant size. It is the only fusion technology to currently be in the running to do this. So there is progress. Unfortunately even if current plans pan out as expected it will be the most expensive energy in the world, exceeding the cost of every means of energy production currently in use (and some of them will be getting still cheaper in the mean time).

    if a low cost fusion alternative can be found then it should be researched. After all what do you have to lose?

    ...

    But given that the payoff for a relatively minor amount of funding is so massive, harsh criticism for research into the phenomenon is counterproductive. It should in fact be encouraged by anyone who considers themselves a person who supports clean energy.

    Nothing wrong with investing effort in long-shot ideas, and questionable 'anomalies'. That definitely should go on. But there is a huge difference between legitimate scientific research, which requires well designed experiments with high quality controls, openness, peer review, providing the means to reproduce results, etc. and these claimed "trade secret" scams that share none of the traits of legitimate research, but are trolling for 'investors'.

    Not all people working in this field are evident scamsters. There scores of researchers working in this area for decades - with no convincing results to show for it. The fact that there seems to be a mutual exclusion between well designed experiments and positive results suggest that this is a social phenomenon of marginal researchers finding something to do, not a scientific one.

    Final point: we are still just looking for convincing evidence that some low energy reaction phenomenon actually exists. There is no reason to suppose that even if it does, we are looking at a promising new source of energy. That is a pitch line for someone selling snake oil.

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  42. Slashvertisement for Kitco - Really? by careysub · · Score: 1

    This item is simply hyping a press release from a rare metals sales firm. There is nothing to see here folks, move along.

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  43. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Bent+Spoke · · Score: 1

    Didn't he invented EEE (Embrace, Extend, Extinguish)?

  44. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by ninjagin · · Score: 1

    Well, I can see part of your point, but there can be many kinds of pioneers. If anything, he was a pioneer in the consumer and business software and computing industry. Lots of people take tax write-offs. Not taking advantage of an opportunity like that is certainly laudable, but are we all supposed to become Harrison Bergerons to meet your arbitrary requirements for shared burden?

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  45. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by ninjagin · · Score: 2

    My kingdom for mod points to rank this comment insightful +1!

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  46. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by mystikkman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That lab allowed Gates to take enormous tax write-offs but never produced any scientific or tecnological break-throughs. But hey, it was all in good tax-dodging fun, right?

    Tax write-off and tax dodging? What the heck? That's like you donating $100 to the Red Cross to get $15 back in tax refund. Not to even mention all the payroll taxes that people working in Microsoft pay. MS would be way better off just stashing the money like Apple does.

    Your post is utterly moronic. What is it about Microsoft that turns otherwise smart people into f**king morons?

  47. Where do you think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that abnormally sized penis came from?

  48. Gates pioneered the licensing of software by rsborg · · Score: 0

    Prior to Gates, the idea of selling "licensed" software was really not taking off. Once IBM gave him the keys to their PC OS kingdom, Gates was able to push this licensing sales scheme into mainstream.

    Were it not for Gates, we may see all software as free (or as a component cost of it's hardware) still today. You can't give Jobs/Apple credit for this. Gates and Microsoft were instrumental to the concept of paying for software.

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  49. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by roc97007 · · Score: 0

    Wait a minute, I'm pretty sure Microsoft invented the internet.

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  50. Cool, BUT.... by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    he should be investing into thorium companies as well.

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    1. Re:Cool, BUT.... by Shados · · Score: 1

      Didn't he announce he was doing just that last year?

    2. Re:Cool, BUT.... by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      They said that they were looking into a number of alternatives, BUT, he has not invested into any thorium operations yet.

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  51. Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I the only one who thought this had something to do with that palladium initiative Microsoft tried to implement some years ago?

  52. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CRAP!....

  53. Am I the only one to remember... by TeknoHog · · Score: 0
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  54. Slashdot commenters are stupid on cold fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am disappointed with the slashdot crowd here. I assume that high energy physics people are real intent on making cold fusion/LENR look stupid.

    But, it is way past doubt. Everyone who has studied the issue knows the answer. It isn't hard to find the data, if you want to do it. DOE's study of more than 10 years ago said it was solid science, early stage, hard to reproduce. Has anyone read the history of Boyle's vacuum pump? It isn't easy to reproduce science in the early stages, and isn't easy even now for a lot of biochem, for example

    But, look at the recent MIT conference. Cold Fusion is reproducable. Surprise surprise, taking a new tech commercial isn't easy.

    If you haven't studied the issue, if you can't cite that data, your opinion is worthless. If you can cite the data, you know the answer.

  55. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Cyberax · · Score: 1

    1. OpenLDAP + Samba can handle millions of _objects_ just fine. And tree structures are implicit in LDAP. Amazon even offers a hosted version of it!

    2. Exchange is overrated crap.

    3. Sure, if 'management' is limited to pretty much locking the desktop background. Try to install and configure non-trivial third-party software through GPOs. Hell, even try to install Microsoft's own VisualStudio.

    4. BitLocker is indeed nice.

    5. RefuseFS is still very experimental. BTFS supports integrity checking on the filesystem level and DM supports it on block level.

    6. DHCP - the original RFC states that is was written by Ralph Droms ( droms@bucknell.edu ) in 1993, when Microsoft didn't even have their own IP stack!

    8. BTRFS has dedup. NTFS doesn't support dedup, it's done on the block level.

    9. Is anybody still even interested in file sharing?

  56. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't go so far as to tar Microsoft as being a company that invented nothing of value. However, I don't think Bill Gates himself would qualify as an inventor of note. I mean, we generally don't say the microchip was invented by the stockholders of Texas Instruments?

  57. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1

    Even if all he did was buy other companies (which initially wasn't the case... he wrote a lot of code in the early years), he had to be shrewd enough more often than not, to find the ones that would benefit Microsoft and be both technically and commercially viable. Just buying other companies wouldn't have cut it. A lot of companies trying this have failed because the people running them weren't smart enough to make good picks. He had to be smart enough to pick the right companies more than the stinkers. Just by this record alone, his choices should be noted and paid attention to.

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  58. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dumbest post I've read in 20 years. You, sir, just won the internet.

  59. Pioneering Microsoft 8K BASIC .. by lippydude · · Score: 1

    Didn't Microsoft 8K BASIC borrow heavily from DECUS BASIC, a copy of the source code Gates obtained from a DEC users group. ref ref ref

    1. Re:Pioneering Microsoft 8K BASIC .. by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 1

      I hadn't heard that, though it could be. Your last reference provided an unrelated though quite interesting observation:

      What about the open-source movement, which over the past decade has won considerable loyalty and enthusiasm in many programming quarters?

      “There’s this wonderful outpouring of creativity in the open-source world,” Lanier said. “So what do they make — another version of Unix?”

      I've often thought the same thing. I guess "embrace, extend, and extinguish" is OK so long as one replaces the "extinguish" part with "world domination".

  60. This smells like a scam of some sort .. by lippydude · · Score: 1

    @AgentElrond: "This smells like a scam of some sort"

    Here's more of the same, a device that generates 360 kWh from four gallons of water link.
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  61. NASA & LENR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a lot of snark going on here. NASA is also looking into LENR. I think we should step back and stop being close minded buffoons and just wait for some evidence.

  62. Fake PR from a metals promotion site called Kitco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If one follows the links, then there is no mention of Gates doing what is claimed.

    Just another bogus press release helping the LENR + e-CAT scammers of Rossi et al.

    Gold is down, so KITCO has to do something. That something is to make up bogus stories about palladium.

  63. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A lot of features of the Glasgow Haskell Compiler are paid for by microsoft research.

  64. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by don2545 · · Score: 1

    I was led to believe that Gates "borrowed" basic from Gary Kildall at Digital Research??

  65. Before I pooh pooh it I want to see it in action by Mister+Null · · Score: 1

    Yes it might be the boondoggle that cold fusion is but what the heck I'd like to see it in action. And if Bill Gates doubles his fortune so be it.

  66. Recursive insult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dumbest post I've read in 20 years. You, sir, just won the internet.

  67. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

    This free Microsoft tool for automatically stiching images together to make a panorama is pretty freaking amazing,

    Doesn't sound much of an advance on Hugin. Which is available Free and cross-platform. There are up-to-date portable versions too.

    Since I move from system to system, from client to client, that last point is a mega-killer. If it takes 3 months to get a program installed through the IT department, and the project lasts 1.5 months, portability is an essential.

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  68. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by SpzToid · · Score: 1

    Maybe I'm missing something about Hugin, but it seems like quite a manual and thus rather tedious process to actually do. Please correct me if I am wrong, because I spent a limited time only, reading the documentation.

    The Microsoft tool is fully automatic. Just drop a bunch of images in a window, or a video, and it does the math by itself and it spits out the panorama in seconds. And the result is amazing. This is one reason why I have virtual machines with Windows installed, (I get my Windows VMs as a result of the Microsoft Tax during new notebook purchases).

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  69. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
    When I first started to use Hugin about ... probably 6 years ago ... it was a very manual tool chain (unlike you, my experience is from using it with very little RTFM). I needed to dive back into it about 6 months ago to bolt together a square array of microscope images into a 5x5 array - for work, and where I needed to be able to explain exactly what had been done - and so why straight lines weren't straight. For that, for confidentiality reasons I had to do the work on the client's computer (windoze), not on my own machine Linux, and I had about 6 hours to deliver results in an IT milieu where installing anything takes a minimum of 2-3 days (and approval of new software dypically takes 3-4 months) ... well, lovely environment, but that's the rules I have to work through and around. I get paid for working microscopes, not doing IT arcana. I dived off to PortableApps.com and grabbed the Portablised Windows version, dropped it onto a USB drive, copied that to the secured machine, and got to work.

    Is it drag'n'drop? No. Is it MUCH faster and easier than it used to be? Yes. Depending on your subject, the system will often automatically pick control points pairs between images (though you do need to make sure the images are correctly sequenced, particularly for 2d arrays). My photos, being almost abstract, of low contrast, and quite uniform colour really give the control point algorithm ("panostift", IIRC, I don't have bandwidth here to d/l it. Rebuilt laptop, toying with Tor) a hammering, but it still manages to get some points.

    "Fully automatic" isn't a good phrase in my lexicon. It might be appropriate if you're taking city-scape panoramas, but I don't waste much time visiting cities unless I'm being paid. Microphotographs come up from time to time at work. Array panels of rock outcrops also need doing too - a few dozen images to document structural complexities.

    Long story short - the system has improved a lot over the last few years. If you need to take detailed control of your photo stitching, then its certainly worth a look. I notice (from archaeology work last year, trying to produce 3-d models of archaeological artefacts) that there has been a lot of development in this whole area over the last half-decade or so. Definitely worth a shot.

    Since the Hugin tool chain is all open source stuff, I'd be fairly astonished if the M$ people haven't been plundering it for ideas, if not code. Colour me cynical.

    The PortableApps version is damned useful - it lives on my "get the fucking job done NOW" hard drive/ tool box. Only gets used every year or so, but when I need it, it's good.

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  70. Re:"pioneer inventor of new technology" ??? by JohanAkerstrom · · Score: 1

    Well what about research like Verve? A fully verified OS. Not just a verified microkernel like seL4 but a system with automated formal verification of the whole OS and applications. This had never been done before Verve. HeliOS a version of MSR's Singularity OS where you at runtime can migrate arbitrary parts of the OS or apps between different processors in the machine, be it migrate the running TCP/IP stack from a x64 chip to a NIC MIPS coprocessor. Other things include AI which enabled realtime natural language parsing and translation to enable multilingual Skype calls. There is a lot of research in OS design, AI, Learning Systems, parallell processing etc.