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SpaceX One Step Closer To Launching Astronaut

Posted by samzenpus on from the getting-closer dept.

BarbaraHudson writes SpaceX has passed NASA's "certification baseline review," which required the company to outline exactly how it plans to ferry crews to and from the International Space Station using the Dragon spacecraft and Falcon 9 rocket under SpaceX's Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) contract with NASA. The contract will include at least one test flight with an astronaut in the spacecraft.

70 comments

  1. That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    This astronaut is going to wind up dead. Good thing the dragon capsule doubles as a coffin.

    1. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      This astronaut is going to wind up dead. Good thing the dragon capsule doubles as a coffin.

      Do you have any idea how many people would volunteer to take the ride, even with the risks? Either way, it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

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    2. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Musk and everyone at space x should be executed for the murder they are going to commit.

    3. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Informative

      Musk and everyone at space x should be executed for the murder they are going to commit.

      By that thinking, everyone at NASA should have been executed after the capsule fire that killed astronauts Grissom, White, and Chaffee.

      Astronauts know that what they are doing is fraught with risk. As one of them said, "You're sitting on millions of pounds of explosive chemicals, with thousands of parts, all made by the lowest bidder."

      The don't have to ask what could go wrong. They know. And they still go.

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    4. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Musk and everyone at space x should be executed for the murder they are going to commit.

      By that thinking, everyone at NASA should have been executed after the capsule fire that killed astronauts Grissom, White, and Chaffee.

      That's was as an accident by a government agency. Space x is going to commit murder for profit. If you're too stupid to understand the difference you should be executed along side them.

    5. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the government NEVER does anything for PROFIT...

    6. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      there is stupid here thats for sure...

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    7. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nobody is going to die, why would you even think that?

      personally i would jump at the chance to be the test pilot.

      why does everyone think NASA is the only group who can put people into space safely?

      space x has won awards just for their safety.
      http://www.parabolicarc.com/2014/10/14/spacex-wins-safety-award/

      yeah, and check this out.

      "overall chance of casualties from launch and landing activities of its Dragon capsule at 30-in-1 million -- the same odds for similar NASA and military space operations, said Hank Price, spokesman for the FAA's Office of Commercial Space Transportation."
      http://news.discovery.com/space/spacex-dragon-capsule-safety.htm

      statistically you are more likely to die in a car crash.
      http://www.besthealthdegrees.com/health-risks/

    8. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By definition of government and profit, that's correct.

    9. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Musk and everyone at space x should be executed for the murder they are going to commit.

      By that thinking, everyone at NASA should have been executed after the capsule fire that killed astronauts Grissom, White, and Chaffee.

      That's was as an accident by a government agency. Space x is going to commit murder for profit. If you're too stupid to understand the difference you should be executed along side them.

      So nominate me to make the flight. If it blows up, you get what you want. If it doesn't, I get what I want. Either way, we ultimately advance our knowledge and capabilities.

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    10. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, those odds are pure bullshit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_accidents_and_incidents

      There have been 18 deaths, and I don't think we've launched a million spacecraft yet.

    11. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drug addicts like you should be tied to the launch pad underneath the engines. The world will be a better place when you and your ilk are all dead.

    12. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why're ya avoiding & downmodding this Barb http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ? You troll apk http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... n' you can't back it up? Yes..

    13. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by samwhite_y · · Score: 1

      I agree with your sentiments. However, I suspect the original poster (as Anonymous) to be a troll and doesn't actually believe whatever he/she is posting. It has all the characteristic signs. A short simple statement that is clearly just plain nuts that is designed to provoke outraged response.

    14. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      I remember a quote from Neil Armstrong saying that he felt there'd only be a 50% chance that he'd actually be able to land on the moon successfully (a failed landing probably meant a slow death.)

    15. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Why're ya avoiding & downmodding this Barb http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ? You troll apk http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... n' you can't back it up? Yes. Considering there's already aliens in space (or there would be with you transtesticle) sending you up there wouldn't be an innovation, lol. If it blows up with you in it, it'd be doing /. a huge favor getting rid of a multiple sockpuppet account using, partial quote using TROLL in yourself (or aren't these just some of your many sockpuppets you've used concurrently to mod your bullshit posts up and moddown anyone that gets the best of you, Barb? Yes, they are BarbaraHudson http://slashdot.org/~BarbaraHu... = TomHudson = http://slashdot.org/~tomhudson... = Barbara, not Barbie http://slashdot.org/~Barbara%2... )

    16. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Looks like someone else just volunteered for execution.

    17. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by davester666 · · Score: 1

      So, your concern is that the spaceship was assembled by a for-profit company instead of a government agency? Because pretty a whole bunch of the parts for NASA spacecraft are made by for-profit companies...this is part of the pork-barrelling of NASA, by making them buy parts from companies all over the US, regardless of who could make the best part or an adequate part for less.

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    18. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      ahhh yes, you look at my name and instantly i am a drug addict. Grow up. educate yourself a bit and you might not look like such an idiot

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    19. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brilliant solution, murder some more people. You'd probably want to have them shot even before anything goes wrong and then even if it works just fine to be sure.

    20. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by steelfood · · Score: 1

      That's what this country has turned into: a bunch of cowards. And worse, they're the special bunch of cowards who are jealous of the people who stick their necks out and try to chop it off at first chance.

      --
      "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."
    21. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      Trollope. At worstif they it a lot of corners and compromised savety it could be negligent manslaughter. But if they practiced reasonable care then it is merely an accident.

    22. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya'll posting in a troll thread.

    23. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by cytg.net · · Score: 1

      Just trolls ... /. should really autohide anything that is voted negative AND is AC.

    24. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm...

      And what did we do with the folks at Ford that decided against correcting the know problem in the Pinto?

      (and "execution" is just another name for homicide.)

    25. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Given the reply to your post, I do believe you're right. I wonder though - do troll hides make good ablative shielding?

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    26. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      You know, this would make an interesting slashdot poll. "Would you volunteer to go on SpaceX's first manned flight?"

      [_] Yes.
      [_] Hell,. yes.
      [_] I just volunteered my boss.
      [_] Anything to get away from my ex.
      [_] Does it come with free flight insurance?
      [_] Depends - do I have to be groped by a TSA droid?
      [_] Sure - it's not like they can be worse at losing my luggage.
      [_] I was okay with it until I heard their theme song was David Bowie's "Space Oddity"
      [_] CowboyNeil already tried to boost me into orbit.
      [_] I can do "spam in a can."

      The lure of the great adventure has always attracted the curious.

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    27. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a drug addict i take serious offense as being categorized with that guy, you insensitive clod.

    28. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Just trolls ... /. should really autohide anything that is voted negative AND is AC.

      But then APK would have to get an account to crap-flood multiple times after most of my posts, so his posts would start out visible to many others. This way, anyone who isn't logged in doesn't see them, same as anyone who uses the Simply Slashdot app, and he still gets to waste his time, which means he isn't doing it to someone else. "It's a tough job, but someone has to keep him from playing in traffic" :-)

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    29. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      We've noticed. But, on a related note, have you noticed how everyone suddenly sprang into activity once SpaceX muddled the waters? Suddenly, there's the "twice cheaper" Ariane 6 in the works, suddenly there's a replacement for the RD-180 in the works... Suddenly things are possible. How nicely timed indeed. :D

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    30. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by thrich81 · · Score: 1

      Maybe the astronauts know and accept the risks of their chosen profession but their families don't seem to. Google up "Apollo 1 Lawsuit", "Challenger Space Shuttle Settlement" or "Columbia Space Shuttle Settlement". In every case either NASA or a NASA contractor paid off the families, $26.6 million in the Columbia case. Legal actions were initiated after each disaster.

    31. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 1

      There's a great ted talk by a real astronaut on the risks. 1 in 40 chance of dying, and why he still makes the flight:

      Ted Talks

    32. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      The GP post is clearly bullshit, it's in no way in spacex's interests to deliberately kill an astronaut, especially given that the government has multiple contractors working independently on commercial crew transport. However I have a feeling you are being overoptimistic.

      overall chance of casualties from launch and landing activities of its Dragon capsule at 30-in-1 million

      NASA management came out with similar figures for the space shuttle. http://sunnyday.mit.edu/accide...

      Yet the actual crew loss rate for manned space vehicles has been in the single digit percentages. The space shuttle has had two crew loss failures and according to wikipedia has had 135 launches putting the credw loss rate at about 1.5%. Apollo had one crew loss incident during launch preperations and had about 17 manned missions (including skylab, appollo-soyuz and the aforementioned failure on the pad) putting the crew loss rate at about 5.9%. Soyuz has had 124 manned launches and has had two crew loss failures putting it's crew loss failure rate at about 1.6%.

      Hopefully both failure analysis and our understanding of spaceship components have improved, but i'd still consider a figire two orders of manitude better than previous vehicles hard to belive without substantial data from actual flights.

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    33. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why're ya avoiding & downmodding this Barb http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ? You troll apk http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... n' you can't back it up? Yes.

    34. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why're ya avoiding & downmodding this Barb http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ? You troll apk http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... n' you can't back it up? Yes.

    35. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's visible to me. It appears that you trolled him before he ever trolled you http://slashdot.org/comments.p... barbara, so if you're going to tell lies, learn to be smarter about it.

    36. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Drug addicts like you should be tied to the launch pad underneath the engines. The world will be a better place when you and your ilk are all dead.

      Someone pee in your Wheaties, dude?

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    37. Re:That's will be one dead astronugh by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      oh we know

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  2. this is good news by ganjadude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I didnt expect this news for at least another year. Ever since the shuttles have retired i have been patiently waiting the day we get a new craft back up and running.

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    1. Re:this is good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You beat me to it. I was going to use the exact same Comment Subject wording.

  3. Imagine going back in time 15 years and warning ev by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Imagine going back in time 15 years and warning everyone about all the crazy shit coming down the pipe. They would send you to the funny farm!

    -The presidential election will be decided by one vote... on the supreme court.

    -There will be a nuclear terrorist attack on New York, perpetrated by Israel, the Bush administration, and the Pentagon, with obvious evidence right out in the open, and nobody will question it.

    -The attack will be used as bait and switch to wage a $3 trillion war against a country which didn't even have anything to do with the patsies, let alone the actual attack.

    -There will be a resurgence of fascism and slavery, and people will call it freedom.

    -Two Skull and Bonesmen will run against each other in 2004. They will refuse to talk about it and everyone else will be cool with that. Isn't democracy great?

    -TV will be mostly fearmongering, propaganda, celebrity gossip, and reality shows about giant-assed sluts. There will be a time when the truthiest TV news will be on Comedy Central. "The Onion Reality" will acquire meaning.

    -A black gay foreign muslim communist will become president. He will spend most of his time golfing, reading from a teleprompter, and watching drone bombings. By any objective measures he will be worse than Bush, but the left will love him, because thinking anything else would be racist.

    -The Fed will print tens of trillions of dollars and give it to the banks, including many foreign banks, but hyperinflation will be delayed because the economy will suck so bad that people will hold held their dollars tight. People will be awed by the power of central planning.

    -Billion dollar scams will become so common that most will be ignored. Only one person will go to jail, and only because he stole from Zionist charities.

    -Housing will be sliced and diced so many ways that people will end up getting foreclosed on by multiple banks that they never even signed with. Nobody will have clear title to their house. And nobody will go to jail.

    -They will change the rules so that bank accounts can be raided due to bank failure, in addition to all the other excuses for legalized plunder. Banks will stop paying interest. Despite all this, there will not be bank runs. One might think that's because everyone will be more afraid of cops stealing their cash, but no. It will be because everyone will be brick stupid.

    -A passenger jet will be abducted to Diego Garcia. The media will blame terrorists, then aliens and black holes, then back to Kim's giant ass.

    -There will be SWAT team raids over raw milk, unpaid student loans, feeding the homeless, etc, etc. Babies will get their faces blown off. The only people who will go to jail (or the morgue) will be the innocent victims.

    -The Russians will become the good guys.

    But we're just getting started! Think of all the crazy shit coming down the pipe for the NEXT fifteen years! If we don't get at least one hoaxed ailen attack by 2030, Krugman and I will be very disappointed.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-02/2015-will-be-all-about-iran-china-and-russia#comment-5617702

  4. Fir5t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    may weel remain

  5. Re:Imagine going back in time 15 years and warning by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    You might want to update your thinking (or get a new tin foil hat). The Russians are the bad guys again.

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  6. Re:Imagine going back in time 15 years and warning by gurps_npc · · Score: 1
    People would laugh at you and call you crazy. And they should. Because if you truly believe some of this junk, you are.

    Which is a real pity because your format could have been either brilliant social commentary or very funny, depending on if you either stuck to the god's honest truth, or just exaggerated things a bit more.

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  7. 7 seats on the Dragon by Spy+Handler · · Score: 2

    but they only send up 3 people at a time to ISS. Seems like a waste. They should set up a lottery for an extra person or two, seems reasonable. I'll buy some tickets.

    1. Re:7 seats on the Dragon by Scottingham · · Score: 2

      The dragon will be in service much longer than the ISS. SpaceX is playing the long game.

      I'm also excited to see a future where returning astronauts no longer have to be plucked out of the ocean (old school capsules) or have a really hard landing in a cornfield (soyuz). The super-draco engines on the dragon v2 are designed to be used as retro-rockets so the capsule could land anywhere (softly!) with pinpoint accuracy. Of course, it still can drop into the ocean safely if the engines aren't nominal.

    2. Re:7 seats on the Dragon by Megane · · Score: 1

      Shuttle missions took 7 people up to swap 3 people on ISS, was that a waste too? After the initial missions, I would not be surprised if they send up extra people who stay a week and go down on the old capsule with the previous station crew. They just have to swap some seats around. (Each astronaut currently gets a custom Soyuz seat molded specifically for his or her own butt.)

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    3. Re:7 seats on the Dragon by caseih · · Score: 1

      Each astronaut who flies on the Soyuz, even if it's just a return journey, has to be trained and checked out in Russia for these craft. Though most landings happen without incident, it's not some simple, routine thing to land in Soyuz. Things can and do go wrong, and each person in Soyuz has to know what to do. So even crew members that arrived on the shuttle had to be checked out on the Soyuz, whether that was for escape purposes, or for the regular ride home. The same thing would be required for crew the Dragon ferries up.

      I'm not sure how long Dragon is allowed to remain in space. Would be nice if they could use it as an emergency exit as well.

    4. Re:7 seats on the Dragon by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      >

      I'm not sure how long Dragon is allowed to remain in space. Would be nice if they could use it as an emergency exit as well.

      The last paragraph in the article:

      Dragon is expected to last up to 210 days while docked to the International Space Station, providing an escape route if astronauts need to leave the orbiting complex quickly.

      You're welcome, and happy 2015 :-)

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    5. Re:7 seats on the Dragon by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      If you don't mind sitting in the back of the capsule, not breathing or eating, for 250 days.

    6. Re:7 seats on the Dragon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Why're ya avoiding & downmodding this Barb http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ? You troll apk http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... n' you can't back it up? Yes.

  8. Re:Imagine going back in time 15 years and warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Why're ya avoiding & downmodding this Barb http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ? You troll apk http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... n' you can't back it up? Yes. Funny you've said you with Russians, praising them in fact, and say that now, eh? Again, yes. Barb conveniently twists things again to her favor (or so it thinks) only to be shot to pieces for it yet again. See above. Run, Forrest, RUN!

  9. Is that what the Nazi propaganda machine told you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet it was. Run along now little sheep, or you might miss CNN's/Foxnews/MSNBC/CBS/ABC latest paid parrot repeater report which will propagandize your entire worldview some more. We need more dumb animals such as yourself to repeat our scripted agendas. Thanks!

  10. Back to the 60s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yay!

    1. Re:Back to the 60s by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because in the 60's we were building reusable rockets that were autonomously landing on robotic ships in the ocean... oh wait.

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    2. Re:Back to the 60s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the '60s we had enough workforce and disposable income to build rockets with western engineers right here and do it right.

    3. Re:Back to the 60s by camperdave · · Score: 1

      In the '60s we had enough workforce and disposable income to build rockets with western engineers right here and do it right.

      Western engineers like Wernher Von Braun and his buddies?

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    4. Re:Back to the 60s by hackertourist · · Score: 1

      A few dozen Germans, on a workforce exceeding 100,000 at the height of the Apollo program.

    5. Re:Back to the 60s by linzello · · Score: 1

      Yes, they are Western engineers. I'm guessing you're from the US and assume the Western only refers to Americas. Actually it was Europe that was considered the west first and America was added on later (as a kind of after thought)...
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W...

    6. Re:Back to the 60s by jabuzz · · Score: 1

      In what definition of western is Germany and hence Von Braun not included?

    7. Re: Back to the 60s by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      And we are back doing it again. So far, F9 is the safest rocket ever flown.

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    8. Re:Back to the 60s by camperdave · · Score: 1
      Well, for starters, what hemisphere they're in. However, that isn't the point. To me, the tone of the ancestral post wasn't east vs west, but foreign vs domestic:

      In the '60s we had enough workforce and disposable income to build rockets with western engineers right here and do it right.

      Well, some of those "western engineers" weren't from "right here" and weren't part of "we".

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  11. Re:Imagine going back in time 15 years and warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You stupid Americans are so clueless it is beyond believe. A lot of people don't even like the Russians but even they can see the contrast today.

    Your entire nation is a lie.

  12. Re:Imagine going back in time 15 years and warning by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    You stupid Americans are so clueless it is beyond believe. A lot of people don't even like the Russians but even they can see the contrast today.

    Your entire nation is a lie.

    I am NOT from, or living in, the USA. Replacing a gang of thugs with a gang of crooks doesn't look much different.

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  13. Re:Imagine going back in time 15 years and warning by occasional_dabbler · · Score: 1

    Putin is no angel, but under his watch Russia has been a far better world citizen than the USA, by any measure.

    --
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  14. Re:Imagine going back in time 15 years and warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why're ya avoiding & downmodding this Barb http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ? You troll apk http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... n' you can't back it up? Yes.

  15. Caught lying: Your own words quoted... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "HOWTO: trolling the hosts file guy in one easy step The next time you see a post by him, just reply anonymously. And to really mess with his head, reply anonymously to your anonymous post, disagreeing with your first anon post (extra points if you claim in the second post that you're him - that REALLY sets him off)." - by tomhudson (43916) barbara.hudson@ ... a - h u dson.com on Saturday April 16, 2011 @01:38PM (#35841122)

    FROM http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

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    "Wait until he starts on another kick, then reply to him as an AC. It's the new meme." - by tomhudson (43916) on Sunday May 09, 2010 @08:29PM (#32150544)

    FROM http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

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    if you're going to tell this guy to stop spamming his hosts file crap, make sure you do it anonymously by tomhudson (43916) on Saturday April 16, @12:45PM (#35840680)

    FROM http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

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    * Even Hairyfeet, a fairly respected member here, KNOWS you're a multiple account sockpuppeteer (see my ps below folks) & troll http://it.slashdot.org/comment... after I noted how you operate here, my pointing out b.s. like the above from you.

    As far as hosts go, Barb? You're running from this post of mine lately on that note, aren't you -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... Yes, absolutely.

    You fail - it's your life story!

    APK

    P.S.=> BarbaraHudson http://slashdot.org/~BarbaraHu... = TomHudson http://slashdot.org/~tomhudson... (THESE PRIOR 2 SHE KEPT ACTIVE @ THE SAME TIME TO MOD UP HER OWN BS POSTS, & DOWNMOD THOSE OF OTHERS THAT DESTROY HER) = Barbara, not Barbie http://slashdot.org/~Barbara%2... you sockpuppeting troll asshole - how many more sockpuppets do you have now too I wonder?...apk

  16. Really? He caused 2 wars by coder111 · · Score: 1

    War in South Ossetia/Georgia. War in Ukraine. Ongoing civil war/occupation of Chechnya, and he played quite a big part in that. You could argue that 2nd Chechen war was effectively started in order to make Putin popular and put him in power.

    How has he been a better world citizen. He's been as bad as USA, probably more.

    And I'm not saying this to praise USA. As someone else said, this is a choice between a thug and a crook.

    Well, ok, unless you count the whole mass surveilance business. And then other shenanigans created by USA corporations. But I could argue Putin would have done the same and more, except his hands were too short- Russia is not as powerful as USA, and not as technologically advanced.

    --Coder

  17. Re: Imagine going back in time 15 years and warnin by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    Really? In what way?

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  18. Re: Imagine going back in time 15 years and warnin by occasional_dabbler · · Score: 1

    Really? In what way?

    He's a secular despot, which I'd take over any theocracy.

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    "Our opponent is an alien starship packed with atomic bombs," I said. "we have a protractor"