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VP Anthony Moschella Shows Off Makerbot's Latest Printers and Materials (Video)

You may have read a few weeks ago about the new materials that MakerBot has introduced for its 3-D printers; earlier this month, I got a chance to see some of them in person, and have them explained by MakerBot VP of Product Anthony Moschella in a cramped demo closet — please excuse the lighting — at the company's booth at CES. Moschella had some things to say about materials, timelines, and what MakerBot is doing to try to salvage its open-source cred, despite being a very willing part of a corporate conspiracy to sell boxes of Martha Stewart-branded extruder filament — as well as a few unremarkable things that the company's ever-vigilant PR overseer decreed Moschella couldn't answer on the record for reasons like agreements between MakerBot parent Stratasys and their suppliers. The good news for owners of recent MakerBot models: they'll be upgradeable to use the new and interesting materials with a part swap, rather than a whole-machine swap (it takes a "smart extruder" rather than the current, dumber one). And the pretty good news for fans of open source, besides that the current generation of MakerBots are all Linux-based computers themselves, is that MakerBot's open API provides a broad path for 3-D makers to interact with the printers. (The bad news is that there's no move afoot to return the machines' guts to open source hardware, like the early generations of MakerBots, but STL files at least don't care whether you ship them to an FSF-approved printer to be made manifest.)

47 comments

  1. It's a golden age for trinkets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But what about social cohesion? We're 3D printing Yoda coffee cups while we're being robbed blind and lose every social structure we fought for for the last half century.

    But hey, look, a coffee cup!

    1. Re:It's a golden age for trinkets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So.. why can't you have 3D printing AND social cohesion? I'm missing where they are mutually exclusive.

    2. Re:It's a golden age for trinkets by halivar · · Score: 2

      "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -- Winston Churchill

    3. Re:It's a golden age for trinkets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then were are the stories here, with the same level of mindless fanboyism and ferocious defending of the concept?

    4. Re:It's a golden age for trinkets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know, tell me about it...

      "3d printing! 3d printing! 3d printing! 3d printing!"
      It's a game changer! 3d printing! It's post-scarcity! 3d printing! 3d printing! 3d printing! 3d printing!
      On the Moon! 3d printing! 3d printing! 3d printing!
      On Mars! 3d printing! 3d printing! 3d printing!
      Rockets! Stuff! 3d printing! 3d printing! 3d printing!

    5. Re:It's a golden age for trinkets by The_Rook · · Score: 1

      what 3D printing needs to take off is a 3D scanner.

      there are lots of 3D designs that you can download and print. if you're good with 3D drafting software, you can even make some of your own. but what i want is to make replacement parts for household goods (like pot handles, broken plastic bits on the car, etc.).

      i don't expect most manufacturers will be willing to publish 3D print files for their products so that users can make minor repairs. in fact, i expect most manufacturers will invoke the DMCA to protect their product designs to prevent users from printing copies of them.

      but ordinary people (i.e. those who are not geeks or nerds) will expect the use 3D printers for something. minor repairs to household goods qualify. and. so far, nothing i've seen seems to point that way.

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    6. Re:It's a golden age for trinkets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Taking a point cloud and converting it in to something useful via Meshlab isn't a trivial issue. Most "slicers" will self destruct if the .STL file isn't
      'watertight" and generating cleaned up parametric solid models from a 3d scan would be an issue of nonlinear regression at the least. Until 3d scan resolutions get in the +/- .0001 you're probably not going to be able to 3D scan a skateboard bearing with visible light any time in the near future.

      Automating the intelligence of segmenting the individual spheres contained inside the racetrack using some sort of TSA luggage scanner is hypothetically possible, but only within the boundary of what can be gathered analytically. The context which is prerequisite for recognizing that those spheres are an independent body is non-trivial to build in to a machine.

      When was the last time you used a photocopier btw? Maybe we should be less focused on making the tangible world resemble the digital one and instead: take a more aggressive stance on virtualizing our experience of reality?

      Watercooler conversation? Google Hangouts
      Rapid prodotyping? CAD revision control + Parts database + immersive visualization.

      All the elements of life which require a car are being replaced by autonomous mail delivery services(Amazon Prime) and all of the elements of life which require physical proximity are being replaced by telepresence technologies. When I step off an airplane I'm a Roomba with a low battery. I'm looking for fast cheap internet, shelter, and a place to "plug in" and go back to my life on the other side of the screen.

      Reality sucks. I would argue Napster did more for "Post-scarcity economics" than Reprap. 3D printers are just the unfortunate transition technology until we can automate our hunting/gathering and our biggest economic problem will be deciding who pays the electric bill. I think it will be difficult for women to figure out who to breed with when sexual reproduction is the last remaining scarce resource. Particularly when "chat bots" can pass the Turing test and Amazon can engineer you a "soul mate" on AWS based on your grocery purchases and steaming media viewing.

      Can I put "Futurist" on my business card yet?

    7. Re:It's a golden age for trinkets by ScienceofSpock · · Score: 1

      It's already happening with some companies. http://3dprintingindustry.com/...

    8. Re:It's a golden age for trinkets by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      it's golden age for media cocksuck bullshit.
      the new materials will not be available for nearly half a year.

      last year mbi won awards at CES with a non functional printer(the demo models were printed with rep2's. that's right. nobody saw the fucking device working and now this year they're given more awards for basically the same thing that everyone knows has buggy extruder design, furthermore to use the "new" filaments in the 5th gen you have to buy a new extruder (190$+) , not that anyone would know since that's getting released later.

      MBI - the worst source of information about makerbot products. how about asking them if they finally have working firmware+software for their 3d scanner...

      bottom line, mbi's stuff is not worth it at the moment. rep2x is okay, but overpriced. 5th gen sucks.

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    9. Re:It's a golden age for trinkets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i don't expect most manufacturers will be willing to publish 3D print files for their products so that users can make minor repairs. in fact, i expect most manufacturers will invoke the DMCA to protect their product designs to prevent users from printing copies of them.

      Unless they can implement a DRM scheme so that you can go to their webshop and buy a license to print a single part.
      Cheaper than keeping a replacement available, packing and sending it.

    10. Re:It's a golden age for trinkets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can I put "Futurist" on my business card yet?

      Yes. It should fit nicely right next to "blathering idiot".

    11. Re:It's a golden age for trinkets by jamesskaar · · Score: 1

      i think that dmca could only apply if you have used their file. reverse engineering is perfectly legal unless it's a direct copy and you're trying to sell them.

  2. Cred? by cdrudge · · Score: 2

    and what MakerBot is doing to try to salvage its open-source cred

    Yeah. Good luck with that salvage job.

    1. Re:Cred? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bre Pettis is a manipulative, exploitative, full of shit psychopath with no redeeming technical or personal qualities. It's baffling that this guy has any "cred" at all. A "multi-artist"... Does that include "con"?

    2. Re:Cred? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well didn't he used to be a school teacher?

    3. Re:Cred? by maliqua · · Score: 3, Insightful

      makerbot is more than dead to me, if I ever hear anyone considering buying a 3d printer that's the only advice i give them is "No matter what you do, do not buy a makerbot"

      I hope everyone else here is doing the same they should not be allowed a second chance or any form of forgiveness

    4. Re:Cred? by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      Once they introduce the new head + materials, others will copy them. Then we can buy the products from those others.

      So it isn't a total waste.

    5. Re:Cred? by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 1

      makerbot is more than dead to me

      Why?

    6. Re:Cred? by JimMcc · · Score: 1

      Be careful with that advise. I friend asked my what specific recommendations I had for a product. I told him to buy anything but Brand X. A few days later he's showing off his beautiful new Brand X. I asked why he bought it and he said it was because he remembered me saying "Brand X". Most people these days are so tuned into brand names, it's the name they remember, not the good or bad behind it.

    7. Re:Cred? by Headw1nd · · Score: 1

      There is actually research into this that proves more or less what you're saying, basically that people tend to forget negation. ie. "Do not buy a red car" is remembered as "Buy a red car". In particular it has applications for people trying to deny false information, an outright denial "I did not do this" ends up reinforcing the initial accusation by way of repeating it.

  3. marta stewart is ex convict by user.aaaaa · · Score: 1

    do they plan Al Capone filament?

    1. Re:marta stewart is ex convict by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Maybe that will be when they sell lead sintering printers.

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  4. Worst-ever post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who wrote that? I mean. Really. I haven't got a clue what they meant. The Makerbot was free software originally not "open source". The later implies that its likely have non-free software in it because the only thing that matters is the technical rather than the ethical. The prior would imply it does not, as they care about free software, but so many people abuse the language it's hard to really tell what anybody anywhere means.

  5. What's a Cluster of These FFF Printers Called? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Filament Fetish Farm

  6. Makerbot is dead by The+Eight-Bit+Link · · Score: 2

    and has been dead since 2012. I'm sorry, but when a company claws its way to existence using the maker/open-source movement, then turns around and tells them to fuck off by closing the source, they're dead as far as I'm concerned.

    1. Re:Makerbot is dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      lets not forget taking ideas from the community and then attempting to patent them.. what was it .. the self levelling bit i think or something relating to automatic calibration..

  7. they're corrupt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's pretty well documented that Makerbot stole ideas from open source reprap forum and filed patents on them. They suck! Doesn't matter how shiny their printers look, the executives running the company are crooks. Just google and you'll lots of evidence showing how badly they behave.

  8. What the ever-living fuck? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    When did you start auto-playing videos, slashdot? And have you stopped beating your wife, yet, also? You stupid fucking dildos.

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    1. Re:What the ever-living fuck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, fuck this noise.

      127.0.0.1 player.ooyala.com

      Sorry, I know this will summon "him."

    2. Re:What the ever-living fuck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's this nonsense? Just add the record in DNS.

  9. Everything you need to know about Makerbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.tridimake.com/2014/06/do-not-buy-makerbot-3d-printers.html
    http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Makerbot-RVW2750955.htm

  10. Boycott by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These guys are basically using the open community to take what they want from it repackage and sell it as their own no one who cares about open technologies should support makerbot in anyway there are hundreds if not thousands of alternatives now find one of them and don't give makerbot a second look

    1. Re:Boycott by tshawkins · · Score: 1

      If you want a makerbot like machine, then the latest flashforge creator pro is a fantastic clone of the replicator 1. Dont get taken in by the flashforge dreamer which is a POS, its also the same machine being pushed by dremel.

      on the software side you can use slic3r or cura with the GPX module, dont listen to those who say you can only use makerware or repg

  11. Where's Aspergery CEO???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What happend to mister asperger with the elvis hair-do that got a documentary on netflix? That guy was megakool

  12. please no embedded videos!!! by marcle · · Score: 1

    If this turns into one more out of control video site, I'm outta here.

  13. Circuit Boards by Adeptus_Luminati · · Score: 1

    I want to print Circuit Boards at home and ideally even be able to assemble components on them. PLEASE work towards that goal, even if it takes 2-5 years.
    Printing & assembling prototypes with traditional vendors costs anywhere from $10,000 to $50,000 PER 2 (identical) boards. It'd be nice to do it all for less than $500 per board at home, even if it takes 2-4 days to print it out & assemble it... which is still faster than 15-45 days via traditional printer & assemblers.
    Thank you. That is all.

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    1. Re:Circuit Boards by tshawkins · · Score: 1

      Checkout the "cyclone pcb mill", basicaly a small pcb focused cnc rig, for isolation milling and drilling custom pcbs.

      It is almost completly 3d printed and can use a quadcoptor motor or a dremel as a spindle, its essentialy a small cnc machine made with 3d printer parts.

    2. Re:Circuit Boards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      check out http://delta.firepick.org/ reprap based pic and place machine

      that and good accuracy desktop cnc will get you there. i found using a laser cutter head instead of a dremel much easier fwiw

  14. Embedded fucking videos??? by pete6677 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Embedded fucking videos??? With autoplay??? FUCK YOU Slashdot! My how far you have fallen. News for nerds my ass.

    1. Re:Embedded fucking videos??? by Tom · · Score: 1

      And with Flash, which has active exploits running around...

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    2. Re:Embedded fucking videos??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You guys run Flash? What's next, Java, ActiveX and Silverlight? -1 to the autoplay, but if it's not HTML5 they can eat tags.

  15. The current "Smart" extruder sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope the new "smart" extruders are a lot better than what they sell now. At work I have a two-year-old Replicator2, which I am quite happy with. This led to the purchase of a Z18, which I regret. The current generation "smart" extruder on the Z18 is terrible - underextrusion, spontaneous jams that you can't clear without taking it apart, if you raise the temperature enough to get the filament moving then you get strings showing up everywhere, and so on ad nauseum. We've had this thing for about a year, wasted I don't know how many person-hours systematically varying the customizable print settings to get it working at even moderately acceptable quality, swapped out the smart extruder for a new one, tried different nozzle diameters, different MakerBot branded filament, etc etc etc and at its absolute best it's still "meh" (and then it jams again). At this point the only way I can do the large prints that the Z18 was bought for is to print sections on the Rep2 and glue them together.

    The Rep2 has an older style extruder that Just Worked right out of the box without any tuning (not-so-coincidentally much more similar to the open-source systems out there), but they decided to replace it with their own proprietary design, and all I can say is too many bugs, not enough eyeballs. I will not be buying any more MakerBot printers anytime soon (which probably means never, because now I will have to try other manufacturers).

  16. Going to be tough to recover their reputation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Going from open source to close source really isn't really what hurt their reputation, it was the smart extruder used on their 5th generation printers. It simply fails way too often and cannot be repaired by customers requiring them to get a replacement from the company. As far as I know, it's still very problematic nearly a year after its release (check recent reviews online). All of the other fancy stuff the 5th generation printers offer mean nothing if your prints consistently fail due to the extruder. The idea is great, but they didn't have the team or the time to get a properly functioning smart extruder out by the CES deadline Bre repeatedly set. That said, because of the good reputation they had built from their previous printers, they were able to sell a lot of these even after this issue was well known.

    Bre is out now and maybe it's possible Stratasys may start intervening to try to recover the reputation MakerBot once had if it seems like they're still screwing things up even without him. Stratasys is still the biggest name in the field (when including the high end printers).

  17. Use NoScript by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you want to get your computer owned? Not using NoScript is how you get your computer owned.

    (Also there's no automated videos whatsoever on Slashdot)

  18. bought post? by mnt · · Score: 1

    because most people won't touch patent-scum makerbot with a 20 foot pole.

  19. Just tell me about the class action by WillAdams · · Score: 1

    All I want to hear is how it bankrupts them:

    http://makerflux.com/possible-...

    If it could be extended to include people who contributed to the opensource which they use and don't credit, I'd be even happier.

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  20. eah. Good luck with that salvage job. by meoupro · · Score: 1