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Art Project Causes Atlanta Police To Close Highway and Call Bomb Squad

McGruber writes: Yesterday, a ridiculously huge commotion and massive traffic jam occurred when Atlanta Police closed the downtown connector (Interstates 75 & 85) and called out the bomb squad to detonate a "suspicious device" taped to a bridge. Today, Georgia State University officials announced that the suspicious device was a student camera, "one of 18 used by students in an art project and deployed at various locations in the city." PetaPixel has additional information about Solargraphy, the style of pinhole photography apparently being done by the Georgia students.

208 comments

  1. Well it did ultimately blow up... by Drethon · · Score: 2

    Just with the help of the bomb squad.

    1. Re:Well it did ultimately blow up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Can we say "paranoid"?

    2. Re: Well it did ultimately blow up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Polaroid. No wait..."

    3. Re:Well it did ultimately blow up... by penguinoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      I heard that one of the suspects had a Canon. Also a news crew on the scene reported that they were taking shots.

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    4. Re:Well it did ultimately blow up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      More as the story develops.

  2. I hope they get an A for this project by sandytaru · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's not every art student who gets to say their project brought in a bomb squad! (I'd say that's normally the domain of freshman chemistry students.)

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  3. Insane Government Officials.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Government officials who are paranoid should not be governing the sane. It would be more beneficial to society to send them away to receive treatment for their conditions.

    1. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by gfxguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hindsight is 20/20; what would you do if you were the police, in charge of keeping the public safe, and some hacked together package was duct-taped to a support on one of the busiest bridges in the city? I work a couple of blocks from there... I'm incredibly lucky to have been working at home yesterday and not have to deal with the ensuing traffic nightmare (it's already bad enough in that particular spot... maybe the police should spend more time ticketing the people causing gridlock).

      Now, granted, I don't know if "blow it up first, ask questions later" is necessarily the right approach, but it's only an overreaction when it wasn't a threat... when it is we complain they did too little.

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    2. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is slashdot. We only worry about real, serious problems like whether someone could hack your FitBit. Bombs on bridges? Don't be silly - there is no chance anyone would ever place a bomb on a bridge. C'mon man, get with the program.

    3. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno, maybe use the fact that we have technologies that can detect explosives, which are used in airports and secure facilities world round. We don't just go by how something "looks".

    4. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need a permit to install something permanent. Permanent being 'stays there after you leave'.

    5. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anybody with the idea to tape ANY kind of device to an overpass/bridge/what-have-you should probably expect a run-in with the feds if they don't clear it with the city first. Probably best to just give them an anonymous heads-up, because I can imagine the default response being 'no' any time someone would actually ask for permission.

    6. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by cusco · · Score: 1

      It's Atlanta, the sane have all left long ago . . .

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    7. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by gfxguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The airports have that stuff right there; how long are the police supposed to take to decide if something's a "real" threat or not? I know slashdotters hate police and hate the "police state" with cameras and tracking your every move and everything... but what would you be saying if it was a bomb and it went off because they were taking too long to figure out if it was a threat? How close are people supposed to get to it to figure it out? Whatever it was, it wasn't supposed to be there.... the only way you look back at this and whine about overreacting is because it wasn't actually a threat. Like I said - hindsight is 20/20, it's easy to sit here and whine about the police "ruining" some art project now.

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    8. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe we can outfit bomb squads with sweet high-tech imaging tools. I imagine in the case of actual explosives, being able to peer inside would help their jobs. And in this case (or, as happened at my college once, a forgetful student left a backpack lying around), they would see that there's nothing dangerous inside.

    9. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now that all the bright people have moved on, Slashdot users can't actually do anything but whine about imagined fears, and pretend to be smart.

    10. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >It's Atlanta, the sane have all left long ago . . .

      Same situation at Slashdot. When derp reaches a critical mass, all the smart, sane people bail.

    11. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd order some extra donuts and watch the explosive guys blow it up. It isn't everyday you get an excuse to explode something. If it causes a traffic jam for civilians so be it, I'm not losing any of my time since I'm at work anyway so fuck them. With any luck a black one would whine and I'd shoot him in self-defense.

    12. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      "but what would you be saying if it was a bomb and it went off because they were taking too long to figure out if it was a threat?"

      That's simple: "What a bunch of idiots! They ruled it NOT a threat based on LOOKS!"

      How is that fundamentally different again?

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    13. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Somehow people think that Art [sic] deserve special exemptions from city ordinance, but ignore that advertisements are free speech as well. But I wouldn't object if a city chose to charge different prices for permits for art versus commercial use, and many cities already do this. And if we want to support students, then codifying a reasonable fee especially for students to obtain permits would be a great way.
      Ignoring the city ordinance is likely to get the bomb squad called and potentially open you up to being cited. It's even possible, although politically unpopular, for a city to sue an individual to recover the cost of sending out the bomb squad and closing off highways. Suing poor students for $100k+ is politically a bad idea, but I think it would be possible for a city to win such a civil case.

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    14. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "when it is we complain they did too little."

      I don't think that's ever actually been the case. What's been the case is that hundreds of thousands of inert items have been blown up in the name of paranoia.

    15. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are there laws against "taping stuff to overpasses"? Thought not...

    16. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1

      Grab it and throw it in the trash. Christ this country has become a bunch of pussies.

    17. Re: Insane Government Officials.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was going to explode anyway right? They blew it up, so why not get more info first?

    18. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 4, Informative

      And what if the duct tape package was filled with a nerve agent that could be dispersed by the explosion genius?

      Blowing it up is just reckless. Either they didn't evaluate it correctly, or they realized it wasn't a bomb and just wanted to see a boom (which is irresponsible)

      This is the reason why there's a bomb squad, and we don't just issue cops C-4 to take out anything that they decide is dangerous. Before actual detonation you should verify a) the device is explosive b) it needs to be detonated because it can't be safely dismantled c) detonation won't cause any bad effects like dispersing a nerve agent and probably a thousand other things I don't know because I'm not in a bomb squad.

    19. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Next up, traffic on freeways is halted while investing a suspicious package. Turns out to be McDonald's bag thrown out the window as litter. But can't be too careful.

      Seriously, what sort of self respecting terrorist would use a suspicious looking device?

    20. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Suspicious lump under the bridge turns out to be homeless person bundled up against the cold.

    21. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by lgw · · Score: 1

      Same situation at Slashdot. When derp reaches a critical mass, all the smart, sane people bail.

      So you're saying we've passed Peak Derp? You may be on to something.

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    22. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      Every time a terrorist successfully detonates a bomb people complain the police didn't do enough to prevent it.... EVERY TIME. Maybe not you, but it happens EVERY time.

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    23. Re:Insane Government Officials.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Train a goddamn bomb dog. Should be super easy job for a dog.

  4. Reminds me of the Boston Bomb scare of 2007 by Deffexor · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:Reminds me of the Boston Bomb scare of 2007 by rgbscan · · Score: 2

      Yup, heaven forbid you leave a light brite out in Boston. You'll shut the whole city down.

    2. Re:Reminds me of the Boston Bomb scare of 2007 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meh, Boston shuts down the city for anything, as the manhunt for that Marathon suspect proved. (The one who wasn't in the area they were looking in.)

      Snowmageddon that wasn't? Ban all travel and shut down the city!

      Patriots cheat their way to a Super Bowl victory? Shut down the city!

      Lightbrites left in streets? Shut down the city!

    3. Re:Reminds me of the Boston Bomb scare of 2007 by rwa2 · · Score: 1

      Meanwhile, on the other end of I-90 ....
      http://www.thestranger.com/slo...

    4. Re:Reminds me of the Boston Bomb scare of 2007 by guyniraxn · · Score: 1

      Sure, we'll "shut down the city" and go about our daily lives as normal. Then we can laugh at the media and everyone with a grudge against Boston who actually believes the press release that we're shut down.

    5. Re:Reminds me of the Boston Bomb scare of 2007 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  5. Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While bringing in the bomb squad and blowing shit up was an over reaction, people have to be fucking morons to think that NO reaction is going to (or should) occur if they do stupid shit like this.

    1. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by sjames · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A real terrorist would hide the bomb in any of the billions and billions of McDonald's bags littering the streets.

      I notice those never get picked up or blown up for safety.

    2. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by magarity · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The second article claims a note was attached to it saying it was for an art project, so the person who did it is only guilty of assuming people can read calmly.

    3. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you start thinking like that, you've let the terrorists win. The only way to combat it is to go on with life as usual, not get paranoid at everything that *could* be a bomb, because that's what terrorists want. They want you to be uncomfortable and suspicious of everything.

    4. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Minwee · · Score: 1

      I guess I had better call the bomb squad right away. I just saw a whole bunch of suspicious devices placed near a local high school.

      They looked a lot like these, and could be weapons of mass distruction.

      http://www.polkcountytoday.com/images/792_dwi021111_7_.JPG

    5. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by gfxguy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Image of the "device.". Yes, it was an overreaction because it was not a threat, but I don't see a note there... perhaps there's one in the shadow. If you suspect it's a bomb, are you supposed to get close enough to read the note on it?

      Hindsight is 20/20... deciding what to do in situations like these is very difficult, but there's no way that, looking at that picture, you can't call it suspicious.

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    6. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by GTRacer · · Score: 1

      *adds entry to Bad Guy handbook*

      "Label it innocuously and you'll be home free!!"

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    7. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Xenx · · Score: 1

      While I believe they overreacted, humans are easily capable of lying to get the results they want.

    8. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The second article claims a note was attached to it saying it was for an art project, so the person who did it is only guilty of assuming people can read calmly.

      Specifically, "A worker who spotted the device said there was a note on it that said something like: 'Slow motion video. Do not move until spring.'" That being said, if you think your bomb was going to be discovered and your goal was to cause death/destruction (not just mayhem), wouldn't you put something like that on it?

    9. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by magarity · · Score: 1

      If one's bomb is going to be sitting around long enough to wait for people to read a note on it and call the bomb squad anyways, it's not a very effective bomb.

    10. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it was simply a demonstration of siege mentality.

      As it is, they could have just glues a bunch of trash to it and it would have elicited little response. Maybe some complaints about street sanitation.

      If you are paranoid, even the most benign actions have ominous tones. Even something silly as absently-minded forgetting a backpack is now a threat.

      The terrorist have won. We now justify the most extreme over-reaction as simply being prudent. It's swatting at a fly with a nuke simply because of the disconnect with reality.

    11. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Russ1642 · · Score: 2

      Would it have killed them to put an email address and maybe a phone number on the note?

    12. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by adolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      To my untrained and naive eye that looks more like the type of pipe bomb that portrayed in every movie involving pipe bombs, than anything resembling a pinhole camera (which has no pre-defined shape).

      My opinion sways even more toward "some crazy person put a dangerous thing on that bridge" because of the hasty duct-tape mounting job, which (similar to the device itself) resembles every crazy taped-together implement that has ever been portrayed in every movie that involves a crazy person and a roll of tape.

      Also, TIL: When placing an object in public, whether nefarious or harmless, it is important to always make sure there is a note explaining that it is an art project....because notes on crazy-looking things are always believable.

    13. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by ckatko · · Score: 1

      > If you suspect it's a bomb, are you supposed to get close enough to read the note on it?

      No, the robot that's going to blow it the hell up is supposed to read it first.

      Imagine a hypothetical, but entirely possible scenario of a cute little puppy inside one of those suspicious packages? Imagine the PR shitstorm that would follow.

      So clearly, blowing it up and asking questions after doesn't ALWAYS work, and so begins the hundred year search for "the line."

    14. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by edtice1559 · · Score: 1

      If I were going to attach a bomb to a bridge and didn't want anybody to remove it before it exploded, I would just put a note on it saying that it is an art project.

    15. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cops shoot cute dogs every day...

    16. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Livius · · Score: 2

      a note was attached to it saying it was for an art project

      Which does not mean that it was for an art project or that it wasn't a bomb.

    17. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering the actual police response, yes?

    18. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      And hire I thought it was going to be a picture of a car.

    19. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A note or two at the site would be a good start for passers-by, but you should still be talking to the police as well if you're going to duct tape random objects to bridges so they know what you're doing.

    20. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Hognoxious · · Score: 2
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    21. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The second article claims a note was attached to it saying it was for an art project, so the person who did it is only guilty of assuming people can read calmly.

      Um... I really hope you're not in charge of anything important. Writing "Totally not a bomb" on something should not clear it from scrutiny as a possible bomb.

    22. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by pkinetics · · Score: 1

      Because anonymous notes saying: "This most definitely is not a bomb. Please call xxx-xxxx for further details" is somehow trustworthy?

    23. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by pkinetics · · Score: 1
      or it is a well thought out plot to maximize the malicious plot.

      Common sense would have coordinate with appropriate people and had someone on hand to monitor and coordinate.

    24. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > If you suspect it's a bomb, are you supposed to get close enough to read the note on it?

      Yes.

      If it's taped to a bridge, it's not going to have tremble sensors. Low-power small-form-factor motion sensors are too unreliable to use as proximity detectors for a bomb.

      tl;dr: You're far more likely to get wiped out by an inattentive driver than you are a "suspicious package". Don't live in fear.

    25. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

      Seriously If I saw THAT taped to a bridge I would suspect it of being something nefarious! That thing looks dodgy as fuck!

      I don't think I would think it was a bomb though, mainly because of the placement. It is not near a support it is near a light pole which is bolted too the bridge AND it is below the walkway. Any kind of detonation there is going to waste the vast majority of its force on empty space and knocking over a light pole.

    26. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      How is following protocol to the letter an "over reaction" ? We should pat them on the back for doing precisely what they were hired to do.

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    27. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put a signed agreement to increase the pension for the police officer's union, and then we'll see cops reading something before shooting it or blowing it up.

    28. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      No duct tape, not suspicious.

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    29. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Well, yeah, once you call xxx-xxxx and check what the device is before expending a whole lot of resources blowing up a pin hole camera, it's just logical to do. There is a number, call it and check, like fucking really, is that so, so hard to do? If they didn't like the answer they could have still blown it up.

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    30. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      That's a pretty poor mounting job - the tape it going to leave a mess. If you're going to attach a camera (or bomb) to something, you'll want a clamp that looks a little sturdier and more professional.

    31. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 0

      Following protocol "to the letter" is almost *always* an overreaction. It's also the last refuge of idiots when they do stupid shit. "I didn't have a choice! I had to act like a fucking retard because the rules said so!!!" Nothing but a bunch of lame excuses.

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    32. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      I prefer bomb squads that can still count to 10 on their hands, even if you think that makes them look like an idiot.

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    33. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is everything you know of the world derived from what you saw in movies?

    34. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1

      Which movie involves pipe bombs?

    35. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever heard of mobile-phone-activated detonators...? They're not just movie props... I would have thought it far more common sense than calling a number on a clearly highly suspicious device strapped to a bridge...

      Anyone thinking they can do what they did, without asking for any permission, nor warning the police beforehand, and not create some uproar, simply doesn't have any common sense. And I'm not just talking about doing this today, or in the past 5, 10, or 20 years. These things are far from new.

    36. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1

      They would also use a bomb big enough to blow up the bridge.

    37. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I was a combat engineer in Iraq, and my job was disposing of roadside bombs.

      It looks like it could be an explosive device. I would think that the guy who placed it was an idiot, as its too small to do much, and way to obvious. I still would have assumed it was such a device.

    38. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
      What is saving the Western Civilization is that the terrorists are remarkably dumb. If they had one hundredth of your smartness, he would not be a terrorist. Being a suicide bomber is the stupidest thing a person can do.

      The goal of a terrorist is to terrorize the population. If the most common reaction they provoke is derision and ridicule they might give up. But that won't happen. We have 24 hour news channels with insatiable appetite for something. They will give so much of air time to the terrorist and they will breed more terrorists.

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    39. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was a combat engineer in Iraq, many devices were set off using cellphones. Calling the number on the bomb, while you are next to the bomb would get you blown up.

      There was no over reaction here the damn thing looks like a bomb, take it out.

    40. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I notice those never get picked up or blown up for safety.

      The Atlanta bomb squad desperately needs to be re-trained. If you have a possible bomb located on an important piece of infrastructure, say a bridge, you don't blow it up while it is still attached. If it was actually dangerous all that would have been accomplished would have been to cause the terrorist desired damage to the infrastructure. Instead you use that handy bomb robot to remove the device and carry it to a safe distance away from the possible "target" and THEN determine if it can be examined, blown up, or otherwise safely disposed of. You know those bomb disposal robots are DESIGNED to do just that.

    41. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You would here the puppy whining, and know that it was live.

      Even then it would be the fault of the person who put the puppy in a fucking tin can covered with tape you idiot.

    42. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      would it be funny if the number is the trigger for it.

    43. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by sjames · · Score: 1

      I had to wonder about that as well. It's like they wanted to make sure the worst case played out. Even if they couldn't get the robot to remove the bomb, surely disrupting it would have been a better choice.

    44. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I saw this a few days prior while walking over the bridge. There was a note written on another strip of duct tape placed on top of the concrete. If it hadn't been for the note, I probably won't have noticed it. While the note did not give a phone number or school, it clearly explained what the soda can was (long exposure camera for a class art project), and gave a date that it would be removed. I'm a curious person so I took a second to look through the green metal fence and it looked clearly like a soda can duct taped to the side of the bridge.

      As to hindsight being 20/20, foresight would tell you that this was clearly on over-reaction. My thought when I saw it was, "poor kid, somebody is going to take that down before the project is finished." I guess I shouldn't have under-estimated in APD. This did not look like a pipe bomb, and if it were a bomb, it was placed in the worst possible position to cause deadly harm; pedestrians would be protected by the metal and concrete and cars would be too far away to reliably cause harm. Blaming the student for exercising poor judgment is a valid point, but he's likely just a kid. Failing to blame APD for exercising poor judgment is just brainless. After all, we pay these people to carry around guns and trust them to exercise good judgment in using them; their judgment should always be up for scrutiny.

      It seems extremely likely to me that APD's decision to blow it up was motivated mostly by a desire to destroy the evidence of their incompetence. Just listen to or read the wording in the news stories: A cylindrical "device" with writing on it was discovered on the bridge (instead of - soda can with a note explaining it's presence). (FTFA) "..students ... are to blame for the major disruption in normal Atlanta travel Monday afternoon." (instead of - Atlanta PD caused a major disruption over a soda can with a piece of photo paper inside). Charging this kid with "reckless conduct" is just more of the same... and it's wrong.

    45. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Sperbels · · Score: 2

      people have to be fucking morons to think that NO reaction is going to (or should) occur if they do stupid shit like this

      No they don't. It isn't stupid. It is, in fact, stupid that the bomb squad wastes their time with these.

    46. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      For my art project, I'm making a big obvious bomb shaped object, like one of the cartoon bombs or like a stack of TNT. It will also be a lamp, with the wick hidden inside the fuse, so that it looks like a lit fuse but can burn for hours and be refilled. And I'll label it "This is not a bomb" (in French, of course).

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    47. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      Yes, it was an overreaction because it was not a threat, but I don't see a note there..

      NOTE: This long, heavy, red, ticking thing is not a bomb. Really, it's not!

      BTW, if a RoadRunner happens to stand by you, please push the button on the side to take a picture.

      Thanks. -WEC.

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    48. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by houghi · · Score: 2

      TIL: When I place a bomb, just put a note on it that it is an art object.

      People have thrown away art objects that were displayed in museums.People have had trouble for having t-shirts with wires on them.

      Thanks to the media, we are now afraid of everything. In Brussels there was a bomb-threat-alarm, because somebody put a suitcase next to a dumpster.
      As a male I am afraid to help a child in need, because people might think I am a pedophile.

      We are learning to be afraid all the time and as it has been said before : You have nothing to fear, but fear itself.

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    49. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by tburkhol · · Score: 3, Informative

      I was a combat engineer in Iraq, and my job was disposing of roadside bombs.

      It looks like it could be an explosive device. I would think that the guy who placed it was an idiot, as its too small to do much, and way to obvious. I still would have assumed it was such a device.

      That sounds like an appropriate response, if one is in Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other conflict zone where IEDs are a regular, or even unusual occurrence. Here in the US, we seem to have about one bombing or bombing attempt every two years (half of which are FBI "sting" operations) despite having 10 times as many people. In that environment, it seems appropriate to put a little more credence in the note explaining the art project.

      If you're out on the lake, and it quacks, it's probably a duck. If you're in a cubicle at the office and it quacks, someone probably farted.

    50. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by tburkhol · · Score: 3, Informative

      I prefer bomb squads that can still count to 10 on their hands, even if you think that makes them look like an idiot.

      So do I. But let me ask you: how many of the suspicious packages that bomb squads across the country have investigated and blown up have actually been explosive? In Atlanta, they investigate about one "device," abandoned briefcase, or discarded shopping bag a month, but the last actual bomb was in 1996.

      If you're in Kabul, and you find a thing duct taped to the inside of a wrecked car, that has high bomb probability. If you're in a US city, 3 blocks from a college campus, and you find a thing duct taped with a clear view of traffic and an explanatory note, that has a high goofy college student probability.

      I know this may run counter to a lot of the propaganda you've been fed, but THE US IS NOT A WAR ZONE

    51. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by dywolf · · Score: 1

      pretty sure -anything- duct taped to the bottom of a bridge, especially a bright white bag, would arouse suspicions.

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    52. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      The Terminator! Great sequence with the fuel truck...

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    53. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      It keeps us watching the news and compliant with authority. Win-win!

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    54. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't call it suspicious. I would call it curious. That is, if I paid any attention to the object at all. It takes a certain level of paranoia to view every quirk, tick, or out of place object as suspicious. All I can say is that the terrorists are certainly winning the minds of some.

    55. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      How many people have been harmed through destruction of suspicious packages?

      A goofy college student might tape innocuous things around the city. An angst filled high school student might have other ideas.

      The world is full of crazy people, the US is not some magical exclusion zone that keeps crazies out.

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    56. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      In other words, something like 0.5% of the things they investigate turns out to be a bomb (figuring that something under twenty years is significantly under 240 months). That seems to me worth continuing to investigate, considering the potential damage a bomb can do.

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    57. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is best to blow up a suspicious package than to have a bomb kill someone.

      Let's put it another way. Why should we wear our safety belts when traveling by automobile when we seldom crash?

    58. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 1

      Wait... So you're saying that its okay to tape random shit on the side of a public bridge?

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    59. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      I've never understood why people drink light beer. Especially when they are teenagers.

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    60. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by adolf · · Score: 1

      For as much faith as you have in humanity, you should feel fortunate that you are still alive.

      Pro-Tip: Next time you see a phone number on a suspiciously-placed object, please call it and rid yourself from the rest of us sensible folk. Thanks.

    61. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by adolf · · Score: 1

      I was a combat engineer in Iraq, many devices were set off using cellphones. Calling the number on the bomb, while you are next to the bomb would get you blown up.

      There was no over reaction here the damn thing looks like a bomb, take it out.

      The problem with that is that here in the US of A, we value our bridges and other infrastructure. So "take it out" is not always a viable option to pursue.

      Destroying bridges with a blind "take it out" mentality on our own ground is foolhardy, at best: We're not under attack here, as far as anyone sensible can tell.

      Good luck with the PTSD!

    62. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I saw that taped to a building, I'd be looking around for a car bomb waiting to take out a whole squad when they come to investigate.

      Paranoia is the right response to some situations.

    63. Re:Common Sense people... common sense by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      No, the robot that's going to blow it the hell up is supposed to read it first.

      How do you get the robot onto the side/underside of a freeway overpass? Hold it up?

  6. Likely outcome... by LVSlushdat · · Score: 0

    Students responsible to be arrested and tried as terrorists in 3..... 2.... 1.....

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    1. Re:Likely outcome... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not so fast. They might be white.

    2. Re:Likely outcome... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whites get arrested all the time.

  7. Two things... by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thing 1: Didn't anyone think to take a picture of the device and ask if anyone knew what it was?
    1a) Doesn't anyone know what a pinhole camera looks like?

    Thing 2: Where does GSU get off attaching private property to public infrastructure? That's a known no-no. At a minimum, you notify public works first so that things like this don't happen. There was no ass covering done here.

    As a result, the bomb squad, the police, and the university all end up looking foolish.

    1. Re:Two things... by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Doesn't anyone know what a pinhole camera looks like?

      Given that a pinhole camera is basically an enclosed volume with literally a pinhole at one end and film inside at the other end, how are you going to look at anything and say "Oh, OK, that's a pinhole camera" ?

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    2. Re:Two things... by sandytaru · · Score: 2

      If I'm envisioning the location of this bridge properly, it's adjacent to the school. I-75/85 is basically the east side border of their campus. They don't think of it as public infrastructure, they think of it as the boundary.

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    3. Re:Two things... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pinhole cameras look almost exactly like pipe bombs from any distance further than 2 feet.

    4. Re:Two things... by gfxguy · · Score: 0

      The police end up looking bad in hindsight, but that's only because that's the majority of the public's view of what happened. The camera was embedded in what looked like an empty soda can, and almost completely covered with duct tape. The pin hole was likely facing out over the interstate, making what you saw on the bridge just a cylinder and duct tape, so no, even knowing what a pinhole camera is doesn't make it obvious that this was one of them.

      We complain they overreact in cases like this, but then when something happens they didn't do enough. Us armchair police chiefs seem to have all the answers.

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    5. Re:Two things... by NoKaOi · · Score: 1

      1a) Doesn't anyone know what a pinhole camera looks like?

      Do you? It's any box or canister thing that the student had lying around, so it's not going to look like a camera.

      Where does GSU get off attaching private property to public infrastructure?

      This wasn't the university, it was a university student. It's not like art departments have an internal review board.

      At a minimum, you notify public works first so that things like this don't happen.

      In which case the CYA bureaucrats would say no. Seriously, why would somebody have predicted such an overreaction? They probably figured the worst that would happen is the camera would be removed and thrown in the trash if anybody noticed. Perhaps in the future with this sort of thing somebody could clearly label it with a sharpie, "This is a student art project. For questions about it please call 123-456-7890"

    6. Re:Two things... by DerekLyons · · Score: 4, Informative

      1a) Doesn't anyone know what a pinhole camera looks like?

      You're obviously not a photographer - because pinhole cameras can look like literally *anything*. A cardboard box, a wooden box, a soda can, potato chip can, an oatmeal box, a piece of Tupperware... literally anything. There's a group that turned an entire aircraft hangar into a giant pinhole camera. There's also a guy who rebuilt the back of a van into a pinhole camera.

      A pinhole camera doesn't look like a specific thing - it's just a light tight container with a pinhole on one end and a way of holding film more or less flat inside it.

    7. Re:Two things... by DaHat · · Score: 1

      No doubt John Walker Lindh, Adam Gadahn and Colleen LaRose (just to name a few off the top of my head) wish it was that easy.

    8. Re:Two things... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to TFA it was a home made pinhole camera made from a can of coke.

      In general, you can't see the film inside a pinhole camera. So all you see is some light-proof container with a pinhole, and the pinhole might not be immediately visible.

    9. Re:Two things... by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      And then perhaps in the future terrorists will label their bombs with sharpies, stating that it's a student project. It doesn't work... sadly, in this day and age, you actually need to get permission to do something like that, and probably have the "device" inspected beforehand.

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    10. Re:Two things... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to the article, it had a note attached that said it was an art project. Police decided not to take chances (probably the bomb squad was already on site by the time the note was discovered, and if you bring the bomb squad to investigate a suspicious package, there's never investigation; just blowing it up).

    11. Re:Two things... by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Wrong school: the bridge is almost adjacent to Georgia Institute of Technology (actually, it's a bit North: the GA Tech campus mostly ends at 10th St.). The school responsible for the "art project" is Georgia State University, which is a couple of miles further south.

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    12. Re:Two things... by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      It was 14th Street, which is one bridge over.

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    13. Re:Two things... by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't blame the University. Sometimes, students are just stupid.

      In this particular case, the student was not only stupid, but also super lazy. And this false positive will in no way affect the reputation of the police or the bomb squad. In this case, they reacted the exact right amount (given the suspicious nature of the attachment).

    14. Re:Two things... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 14th street bridge isn't adjacent to any college campus. Georgia Tech is 4 blocks away (starting at 10th Street), but this was Georgia State University project, which is nowhere near there.

    15. Re:Two things... by sandytaru · · Score: 1

      Ah, thanks for the clarification. Both schools are merely "things I drive past going to the airport."

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    16. Re:Two things... by McGruber · · Score: 1

      Thing 1: Didn't anyone think to take a picture of the device and ask if anyone knew what it was?

      The bomb squad did better than than -- one of their members was put in a fire truck's basket and lifted up to be right next to the device/pinhole camera.

    17. Re:Two things... by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      If I'm envisioning the location of this bridge properly, it's adjacent to the school. I-75/85 is basically the east side border of their campus.

      Nope. GSU is roughly 2.25 miles from 14th Street. Now, if they had a camera in Hurt Park or Woodruff Park, or on 75/85 near I-20 and the state capital, then maybe. Someone screwed up and should have notified GDOT and GHP (probably though GSU campus police) that they were intending to put a camera on the bridge.

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    18. Re:Two things... by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      The 14th street bridge isn't adjacent to any college campus. Georgia Tech is 4 blocks away (starting at 10th Street), but this was Georgia State University project, which is nowhere near there.

      SCAD has a building fairly close to the bridge. I honestly assumed it was a project from there when I heard it was a camera.

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    19. Re:Two things... by UnderCoverPenguin · · Score: 1

      The bomb squad did better than than -- one of their members was put in a fire truck's basket and lifted up to be right next to the device/pinhole camera.

      Now that was stupid. They should have strapped a bomb robot to the truck's lift and raised that to the device.

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    20. Re:Two things... by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      I'm okay with what the cops do in these cases, as long as they have a consistent policy about how they deal with these issues.

      What happened is that the cops check anything that someone else complains about, and if it looks like a duct taped pipe bomb, they treat it as such. If it was McDonald's trash or something, no one would have reported it, but that's on society in general, not the cops. Cops want to go home at night without being killed or maimed, so if someone says that there is something that looks like a bomb on a bridge, and it's feasible as a bomb, then I see nothing wrong with treating it like a bomb.

      What happened here is someone left something on public infrastructure and this is merely the most hilarious thing that could have happened to it.

    21. Re:Two things... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously, solution is to make pinhole camera that looks like a bomb.

    22. Re:Two things... by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      1a) Doesn't anyone know what a pinhole camera looks like?

      Do you know what a pinhole camera looks like?

      The amazing thing about a pinhole camera is it can look like anything. It can look like a real camera, it can look like a small pipe held together by tape (as it was in this case). It can also look like an entire aircraft hanger.

      I've made many pinhole cameras over the years. I certainly would not be able to tell you what one looks like.

    23. Re:Two things... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just do exactly as they did. Fuck the permissions, and go for it. Like 1 in 10000 things like this causes anyone to even notice. Less than 1 in 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 empty ductaped coke cans is actually a bomb, so it's a damn over reaction no matter what they did.

  8. Looks really sketchy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Who thought it was a good idea to mount something that looks like this on top of a bridge overlooking a heavily trafficked highway?

    http://i.imgur.com/wSIN2fp.jpg

    1. Re:Looks really sketchy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure that duct taping a 12oz can to a bridge seems suspicious only in hindsight.

      dom

    2. Re:Looks really sketchy... by Avidiax · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because the terrorists are required to use duct tape and soda cans in their IEDs...

    3. Re: Looks really sketchy... by MarkH · · Score: 1

      Thanks for picture ( box duct-taped to bridge ). If no notification was given to bridge authorities and permission granted then taping that to bridge was nuts. uni should be sued

  9. Jack Bauer school of counter terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    FFS! More graduates from the Jack Bauer school of counter terrorism.

  10. Because... by meustrus · · Score: 2

    If you see something, say something.

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  11. Not an overreaction by njnnja · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'll be the first to complain about the stupidity of zero tolerance policies and curtailments of civil rights in the name of the war on terror (or war on drugs), but that is clearly surpassed by the stupidity of duct taping a box to a transportation chokepoint without telling the people who own and operate it.

    1. Re:Not an overreaction by kylemonger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      True, but the odds are pretty much 100% that your art project request will be denied for liability reasons. People sue the hind legs off each other for anything nowadays, and rampant paranoia is the natural result. So if you want to do your project you just roll the dice and hope that no one notices your guerilla installation.

      Oops, someone noticed? Now comes the part where you beg for forgiveness.

    2. Re:Not an overreaction by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      The fucking idiot probably got a goddamned trophy for doing it, too.

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    3. Re:Not an overreaction by Livius · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Whoever put it there committed trespass and vandalism and deserves to be hauled into court for being so dumb as to not contact the city first.

    4. Re:Not an overreaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the least it could have been mounted properly and not looked like a pipe bomb. Their request should have been denied because it wasn't properly attached. Duck tape isn't secure enough to use to tape something above a highway.

      Another option would have been to have someone standing by it the whole time. I'm sure they could have paid students to stand there and play games or post on social media 24x7 while the experiment was going on. They could sell hot chocolate while they're at it too.

    5. Re:Not an overreaction by DaTrueDave · · Score: 1

      Heh... You said 'duck tape'. Hehe...

    6. Re:Not an overreaction by robbak · · Score: 2

      For this sort of pinhole camera, the time involved is 'leave it there for many months. The standard exposure time is a whole year.

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    7. Re:Not an overreaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah cause some people use the brand "Duck Tape". This brand has been around since the 50's So not all that uncommon for people to call Duct Tape, Duck tape.
      http://www.officesupply.com/product/DUC1344909RL/image/0

  12. Another one on the watch list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being an anonymous hacker...watch list.
    Reading slashdot...watch list
    Building an art project that results in the bomb squad being called out...oh yeah, you better believe watch list!

  13. Hate to be the guy who called this in. by linebackn · · Score: 1

    I think an unfortunate result of this overreaction is that concerned citizens may now want to think twice before calling anything in to the police. If you call something suspicious in, the police WILL call in the bomb squad, and shut down the city.

    Of course the real blame should be on whoever in the police department decided to go all 9/11 rather than just taking a look at it and figuring out it was harmless.

    At least it wasn't a Mooninite. No telling what they would have done then.

    1. Re:Hate to be the guy who called this in. by kogut · · Score: 2

      I think an unfortunate result of this overreaction

      I don't think it's an overreaction. Everything went by the book.

      9/11 rather than just taking a look at it and figuring out it was harmless.

      At least it wasn't a Mooninite. No telling what they would have done then.

      Most cops aren't trained to ID bombs either by "taking a look at it" or any other means. There's protocol. EOD guys ID suspected ordnance. Everyone just calls in "suspicous" looking things. And the thing did look suspicous.

    2. Re:Hate to be the guy who called this in. by chronoglass · · Score: 1

      Sorry, this isn't a 9/11 reaction. this is the reaction to a potential explosive device.
      If you can be killed by being within 100 feet of something, and you're only say 20% sure of what it is, do you say.. eff it, prolly some science project or something? no, you remove it. how do you remove a potential life threatening thing? do you jiggle it around and see if it goes boom? or just make sure it goes boom in an expected way with people and property out of the way?

      http://news.google.com/newspap...
      and that's just the FIRST news paper article that comes up when you google bomb squad
      but hey.. 9/11

    3. Re:Hate to be the guy who called this in. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you seriously claiming that an EXPLOSIVE device by a TERRORIST (unknown who at the time) which shut down a whole city is NOT a 9/11 reaction? 911 reactions are all about over-the-top knee-jerk reactions to non-problems. Where HAVE you been?

    4. Re:Hate to be the guy who called this in. by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's an overreaction. Everything went by the book.

      Yes but the book is titled "The Big Book of Overreactions"

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    5. Re:Hate to be the guy who called this in. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes but the book is titled "The Big Book of Overreactions"

      No, I think you're confusing it with "Monday Morning Quarterback."

  14. Why is blowing up everything helpful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Given almost all of these are false positives, random items discarded in public REALLY require the bomb squad to come blow them up, every fucking time?

    Anyone could have just looked at this thing for 10 seconds and been 100% sure it's not a bomb. How do these morons get the job if that can't make that distinction?

    1. Re:Why is blowing up everything helpful? by kogut · · Score: 0

      nyone could have just looked at this thing for 10 seconds and been 100% sure it's not a bomb. How do these morons get the job if that can't make that distinction?

      Just FYI, inspecting something up close to see if it's a bomb is a pretty bad idea.

      And you absolutely can't look at the thing and be 100% sure. I coudn't.

    2. Re:Why is blowing up everything helpful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, you can be absolutely sure - you can stare at it for fucking days if you want, it will never blow up because it cannot. Almost ALL such items will NEVER blow up.

    3. Re:Why is blowing up everything helpful? by gfxguy · · Score: 2

      You say "absolutely sure," followed by "Almost ALL..." I do not think you know the meaning of "absolutely sure."

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    4. Re:Why is blowing up everything helpful? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Tell me if you can determine for sure that this isn't a bomb. Because that sure doesn't look like a camera to me. That looks more like an IED than a camera.

      Also, I'm glad to hear you're volunteering to go up to suspected bombs, peel them open, and rattle them around a bit to see if they're dangerous or not. No? It's pretty easy to say that you're 100% sure it's not a bomb when it's not your life on the line.

      IED ATTACKS IN THE U.S.
      OCT 2012 – 38.
      NOV 2012 – 21.
      DEC 2012 – 28.
      JAN 2013 – 31.
      FEB 2013 – 23.
      MAR 2013 – 31.

      Sometimes they do actually explode - seems about one a day, in fact. Why risk a life when it's simpler just to detonate something that looks so suspicious? Get off your fucking high horse.

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    5. Re:Why is blowing up everything helpful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you don't know how to fucking read. I said almost all such "devices" turn out to be false alarms and you CAN be COMPLETELY sure that THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES.

    6. Re:Why is blowing up everything helpful? by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 1

      By your logic, we need the bomb squad to visit every neighborhood on garbage day because the streets will literally be littered with containers that "might" be a bomb. Dipshit.

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    7. Re:Why is blowing up everything helpful? by smaddox · · Score: 1

      [citation needed]

      With how obsessed the media is with anything terrorism related, you think we would have actually heard of some of these supposed "one a day" IED attacks in the US. Or maybe IED attacks are far, far more rare than "suspicious items".

      It's difficult to blame the police officers and bomb squad for doing their job, but this is pretty good example of how broken the system is. I don't have a great solution to suggest other than STOP FREAKING OUT ABOUT TERRORISM! It's not a significant threat to your life if you live in the continental US. Yes, I know 9/11 and the Boston bombings are scary, but more people died in car accidents in the last two years on Texas roads than have died in the full history of the US due to terrorist acts in the continental US.

    8. Re:Why is blowing up everything helpful? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying we should collectively be remotely worried about random IEDs, or even about terrorism in general, since it's so incredibly rare. Our airport security theater is especially lame. I'm just saying that I think the police were justified in treating this device with suspicion, especially with the way it looked. Take a look at that link and tell me that doesn't look suspicious to you. Honestly, I would never have guessed it was a camera.

      Detonating a suspicious device in-place is how any potential explosive threat is done in almost all cases. It's not like the movies where specialists are choosing red or blue wires to snip, with an LED visibly showing a countdown timer. It's easy to mock the police for overreaction in hindsight now that we know there was no threat, but I just think that's a bit disingenuous.

      BTW, here's where I'd disagree with the police:

      At a news conference Tuesday afternoon, Atlanta police said the student responsible for taping the project to the bridge could be charged with reckless conduct once the investigation is complete.

      I'm hoping the student gets off with a stern warning, because it seems pretty likely there was no ill intent here, just some questionable judgment about placing something like that on a freeway overpass.

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    9. Re:Why is blowing up everything helpful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm hoping the student gets off with a stern warning, because it seems pretty likely there was no ill intent here, just some questionable judgment about placing something like that on a freeway overpass.

      You can't have it both ways. Either the student recklessly placed a device that any reasonable person could mistake for a bomb, or the police massively over-reacted by effectively shutting down the city for four hours while they wheeled a gantry up to destroy a harmless art project. One of those parties - the student or the police - has to accept blame for making hundreds of thousands of people late for dinner, and since it will be law enforcement making the decision, I'm guessing they won't be blaming the bomb squad.

    10. Re:Why is blowing up everything helpful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AC, you typed at 5:21PM, and this is and exact quote:

      Yeah, you can be absolutely sure - you can stare at it for fucking days if you want, it will never blow up because it cannot. Almost ALL such items will NEVER blow up.

      And then gfxguy typed:

      You say "absolutely sure," followed by "Almost ALL..." I do not think you know the meaning of "absolutely sure."

      And then you, AC, typed at 6:18PM:

      No, you don't know how to fucking read. I said almost all such "devices" turn out to be false alarms and you CAN be COMPLETELY sure that THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES. and you CAN be COMPLETELY sure that THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES.

      No, AC, you're the one that can't fucking read.
      You typed in one thing at 5:21PM and then misquoted yourself less than an hour later. You didn't even have to remember what you had said because it was right there less than an inch away. ctrl-C and ctrl-V, ya know?
      And yet, you still got your own quote wrong. How stupid is that? This may be a new record for slashdot.

    11. Re:Why is blowing up everything helpful? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Lots of things can hold up traffic, and many of them are nobody's fault. I think a stern warning and exacting a promise not to do it again sounds about right.

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    12. Re:Why is blowing up everything helpful? by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      Looks like we have found the inaugural winner of the 'fuckhead pedant' award

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  15. Use Some Common Sense For Once! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It seems like common sense to me that if you're going to do something like this, let the authorities know what you're doing so as not to cause this kind of a response!

  16. Terrorists FTW? by future+assassin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think so. I don' t think any of the 911 planners knew who much their actions would kick into action deep seeded anti freedom views from inside western governments.

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    1. Re:Terrorists FTW? by chronoglass · · Score: 0

      yeah.. 9/11
      that's what caused this perfectly sane reaction..
      not like this has been standard procedure for every bomb squad ever.. since inception. nooo, 9/11

    2. Re:Terrorists FTW? by Livius · · Score: 1

      They knew exactly what the reaction would be and that was their objective all along.

      Their only miscalculation was that when the Arab Spring finally came it leaned more towards liberalism (in the classical sense) than theocracy.

    3. Re:Terrorists FTW? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don' t think any of the 911 planners knew who much their actions would kick into action deep seeded anti freedom views from inside western governments.

      You would be wrong.
      "I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
      -- Bin Laden's sole post-September 11 TV interview

  17. Jack Bauer school of counter terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If that was the case, there would have been a 10 minute shootout and very large explosions.

  18. Terrorists Everywhere! by Ancil · · Score: 1

    Not surprising. A few days ago, this nine year old kid was suspended for making "Terroristic Threats".

    Specifically, he told one of his classmates that he had a magic ring forged at Mount Doom and he could make him disappear.

    http://fw.to/kSQ7iAQ

    1. Re:Terrorists Everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not surprising. A few days ago, this nine year old kid was suspended for making "Terroristic Threats".

      Specifically, he told one of his classmates that he had a magic ring forged at Mount Doom and he could make him disappear.

      http://fw.to/kSQ7iAQ

      And who do you think would get blamed if he really did? Better safe than sorry.

    2. Re:Terrorists Everywhere! by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      Where does it say anything about "Terroristic Threats?"

      --
      Stupid sexy Flanders.
    3. Re:Terrorists Everywhere! by chronoglass · · Score: 2

      im gonna have to say, that school... isn't really a learning institution so much as a christian day care.

      from your linked article:
      “He loves that book. They were studying the solar system and he took it to school. He thought his teacher would be impressed,” the boy's father said. He went on to explain that, after the teacher discovered that the children’s encyclopedia contained a section on pregnancy, including an illustration of a pregnant woman, bringing it in was deemed a suspension-worthy offence.

      and thay can't seem to speel too wail for a news sight. Slashdot editors moonlighting?

  19. Totally an overreaction by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

    It is only reasonable to shut down the freeway if the [probability that the object is actually a bomb] * [the damage caused by it exploding] costs more than [the damage caused by shutting down a major Interstate during rush hour]

    Considering that the chance of it being a real bomb is incredibly low, that even a soda-can worth of high explosive can't do that much damage (especially since it was placed on a decorative rail, not supporting column), and that a whole lot of people were delayed by the shutdown, the police's response was entirely unreasonable.

    --

    "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

    1. Re:Totally an overreaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's great having powerful hindsight, you can just set "probability that the object is actually a bomb" to 0.0 and see how it was a complete overreaction!

      And your damage calculations already misses the fact that if it was a bomb and it exploded, it would still have "a whole lot of people delayed by the shutdown", plus costs of possible damages to public, plus costs of repairs to the bridge - decorative rails aren't free, you know.

    2. Re:Totally an overreaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're going to inconvenience over 272,000 people to avoid unlikely impossible worst case scenario of maybe 100 people dying? Personally I think adding 100 people to the 153,424 people who die on average every day is worth it to not inconvenience the rest of us sane thinkers.

    3. Re:Totally an overreaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Wow, you really going for this argument?

      "OMG, who cares if someone dies, it's no excuse for inconveniencing me!" Proving once again that the infamous Anonymous Coward guy is actually a sociopath, eh.

      And again you miss the part where 272,000 people still would be inconvenienced if the road closes for investigation after explosion.

    4. Re:Totally an overreaction by itzly · · Score: 1

      And your damage calculations already misses the fact that if it was a bomb and it exploded, it would still have "a whole lot of people delayed by the shutdown",

      You still need to multiply these costs by the probably that it was actually a bomb, which is a very small number.

  20. I keep mine small for this reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've made a lot of these, and actually this has always been a fear of mine, they easily look like a pipe bomb. Yeah it was an over reaction, but the reality is, it looks like a bomb strapped to a bridge, I would expect no less.

  21. Don't the police ever feel like fucking idiots by AndyKron · · Score: 0

    Don't the police ever feel like fucking idiots when they keep doing shit like this, because they are fucking idiots.

  22. Most of the time it turns out to be a geocache by KPexEA · · Score: 1

    This is why I don't hide any on bridges

  23. Well that's an interesting homework excuse by pkinetics · · Score: 1

    I cannot turn in my assignment because the bomb squad blew it up. Hope that wasn't their senior project.

  24. Atlanta Has Problems by BlackSWE · · Score: 1

    First, Atlanta DOT is relaxed in the wake of the Snowpocalypse. Now, Atlanta PD holds up 75-85 to blow up an aluminum can. I'm just an innocent civilian but I think Atlanta needs some better people running this place. Just saying...

  25. most people here have no common sense by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    Even if it had a poster attached that said "Not a Bomb", I would be very disappointed in any police force that didn't immediately shut down the surrounding area and try to safely denote the unknown device. It's round and covered with duct tape, is it a soda can filled with black powder and pellets? is it an unattended camera for an art project? At least put your phone number on that shit so people can call you and ask you what it is before taking the safest course of action.

    --
    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
    1. Re:most people here have no common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Police wouldn't call it. Maybe the phone number is the bomb trigger. What they should have done was ask for permission first. You've never been allowed to randomly attach things anywhere. Especially with the poor attachment. Duck tape isn't magical. The camera should have been tied (then taped) into position. There's a hole right about it where it could have been securely tied off

      Who ever put this up there did a really crappy job. It even looks like a bomb.

    2. Re:most people here have no common sense by vux984 · · Score: 2

      You've never been allowed to randomly attach things anywhere.

      Sure if you pretend the ENTIRE geocaching hobby doesn't exist.

      You know the one I mean? The one which is LITERALLY stashing small boxes, tubes, and other containers of things in public places; hidden in trees, under bushes, magnetically attached to light posts, under bridges, under stair ways, in hollows, under park benches, in sculptures, behind loose bricks, and under large stones, and in drains...

      Be pretty comical for the the bomb squad to start blowing them all up. there's some 600 in my suburb alone.)

    3. Re:most people here have no common sense by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      So because it's a hobby means you're "allowed" to do it?

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      Stupid sexy Flanders.
    4. Re:most people here have no common sense by vux984 · · Score: 1

      So because it's a hobby means you're "allowed" to do it?

      Its moot. "Allowed" or "not allowed", there are already MILLIONS of "suspicious" little packages stashed around the country; with more being planted daily.

      Even if its not technically legal the sensible thing to do now would be to legalize it.

  26. He's white? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    So community service?

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    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
  27. I don't know, you could... by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    write "PINHOLE CAMERA" on it?

    Maybe file for a permit and write your permit number on it.

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    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
    1. Re:I don't know, you could... by itzly · · Score: 1

      Sure buddy, and then you just write the permit number on a bomb instead. You didn't expect us to see through your silly plot, did you ?

    2. Re:I don't know, you could... by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      I swear, it's full of candy.

      --
      “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
  28. speaking of which... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if they're going to blowup unattended aluminum cans on the 14th street bridge I wanna buy stock in whoever they get their blasting caps from! their stock's gonna go frakin' apeshit come football season!!!

  29. "causes"? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    I know that art is powerful, but this is ridiculous. It didn't cause them to do any such thing. They decided to overreact.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  30. Best excuse by the student. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    Professor: "Jhonny, Don't tell me dog ate your homework!"

    Jhonny: "No Prof! The bomb squad blew it up. Honest! Swear to God!

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    sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
  31. You are the fucking idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Atlanta has been bombed before; Centennial Park.

    The Police were well within their rights and obligation to do exactly what they did. And after that shit storm in Boston first over the litebrights, and the actual bombing not so long ago. The stupid motherfucker is the idiot who put that thing up to begin with, and even dumber motherfuckers, like you, who are defending them. And just because it's labeled pinhole camera, doesn't mean it really is a pinhole camera.

    And no, the police had no business doing a through investigation of it before blowing it up because that would have meant tying up traffic even longer. The correct response is: "Fuck that shit, blast it." Which they did.

  32. Definition an overreaction by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    but that is clearly surpassed by the stupidity of duct taping a box to a transportation chokepoint without telling the people who own and operate it

    Was the box at least a cubic meter in size? Then it wasn't any kind of danger to that kind of infrastructure. You wouldn't think a pellet gun had the same kinetic force as an anti-materiel rifle, so why stress out over a shoebox sized cylinder?

  33. Education by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Education is now on the terrorist watchlist.

  34. weird. same thing happened in the Netherlands by paai · · Score: 0

    Heeh... two weeks ago we had almost the same situation in Leiden, the Netherlands, where a marketing bureau placed a camera in the train station... http://www.omroepwest.nl/nieuws/28-01-2015/bommelding-op-station-leiden-blijkt-misverstand-reclamebureau-liet-vuilniszak-met- (in dutch, I am afraid)

    Copycat at work?

    Paai

  35. They should have notified authorities first by heldal · · Score: 1

    If they didn't notify the authorities and got permission before placing cameras in public, that's not just illegal (at least in my country), but also a huge lapse of judgement.

    "Students were instructed to take their cameras home and to place them in locations that would provide interesting scenes with bright sunlight". With no warning about adhering to local laws and what is defined as an acceptable location? Somebody should get a fine, but whether the students or the university is to blame is an interesting question.

  36. Cops Blew up my homework! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cops Blew up my homework!

    That's got to be a new excuse.

  37. Lack of communication with law enforcement.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IMHO, this could have all been avoided if the professor responsible for the students would've notified local law enforcement of the cameras locations and what they looked like.

    1. Re:Lack of communication with law enforcement.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Former" students and "former" professor. They're on a watch list now. Their lives are over.

  38. Police Chief Wiggam says: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "That's some mighty fine police work lou."

  39. Illegal by cwsumner · · Score: 1

    Um ... I think taping things to someone else's building or bridge is actually illegal, unless you have written permission. Maybe no-one cared in the past, but they do now.

    You have to get permission, even to post lost and found posters...