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Ikea Unveils Furniture That Charges Your Smartphone Wirelessly

pbahra writes Swedish furniture maker Ikea unveiled a new range of furniture that it says can wirelessly charge some mobile devices. The Swedish furniture giant made the announcement on Sunday at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona. Ikea's introduction of wireless charging functionality on some of its new furniture heats up the battle for a global wireless charging standard, of which there are currently three, all struggling to become the global leader.

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  1. Obligatory by ArcadeMan · · Score: 3, Funny
    1. Re:Obligatory by zm · · Score: 1
      while that xkcd is funny, it does not apply in this scenario:

      Ikea will equip its new range of furniture with Qi-certified wireless chargers from the Wireless Power Consortium (WPC) and has also joined the organization.

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    2. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, in a few years time if they bet on the wrong wireless charging standard what's the worst that could happen? People have to go out and buy new furniture...?

    3. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can anyone explain to me the appeal of xkcd comics? A lot of people think they're great, but I don't see why.

      Many of the xkcd comics just drop cultural references. I mean, that's all they do. They just mention some semi-obscure technical concept, or maybe the name of some sci-fi/fantasy character. There's no humor, or insight, or anything else that might be amusing. Just referencing SQL injection isn't particularly funny.

      Others are just plain unoriginal observations. The one you linked to is a good example of this. Anyone who has done any work with standards knows of this phenomenon. Hell, it was true in the 1960s, when I first got involved with some standardization efforts, and I'm sure it was true well before then, too. Stating the obvious doesn't make a comic good. In fact, it makes it quite bad.

      Yet others are just weird or pointless. Okay, so some dinosaur attacked a programmer. It's not even the type of absurdity that's funny. It's just weird, without any value.

      Many of the remaining xkcd comics are just regurgitation of stuff academics have been joking about for decades. Anyone who has spent any time in a lab or even just attended some lectures will have likely heard many of them, or maybe seen the same concept in some other comic hand drawn by a professor or grad student and stuck on a bulletin board in a hallway in some college building.

      I think it'd be great if there was an intelligent, insightful, and truly funny comic dealing with technical matters, science, math, and all that good stuff. It wouldn't be anything like xkcd, that's for sure!

    4. Re:Obligatory by Shados · · Score: 1

      QI chargers, already used across the Nexus line, and I _think_ some Samsung phones?

      Im personally happy, since all my phones/tablet support Qi.

    5. Re:Obligatory by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      It may not add one, but still...

      Ikea's introduction of wireless charging functionality on some of its new furniture heats up the battle for a global wireless charging standard, of which there are currently three, all struggling to become the global leader.

    6. Re:Obligatory by ArcadeMan · · Score: 0

      Not everyone is 70+ years old and not everyone has worked in multiple scientific fields. For some of us, some of the jokes are still new and funny.

    7. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's the Thomas Kincade of geek humor, no one ever lost betting on the lowest common denominator.

    8. Re:Obligatory by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      I LOVE your similitude! I'm using it everywhere, from now on.

      "Cheerios? Man, that is the "Thomas Kincade" of breakfast cereals."

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    9. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I thought they used to be funny during the first years, but XKCD jumped the shark a couple of years ago. It used to be geeky humor, now it's kind of just random science themed cartoons. Not very funny or clever like they used to be, IMO.

      Anyway, I go there every Monday, Wednesday and Friday just because they link to the Perry Bible Fellowship cartoons, which is way funnier. I would just bookmark Perry Bible Fellowship. But for some perverse reason, I always check out xkcd to see if it ever got back to it's roots. Alas, I've been disappointed for years.

    10. Re:Obligatory by hawguy · · Score: 1

      Can anyone explain to me the appeal of xkcd comics? A lot of people think they're great, but I don't see why.

      The joke is never funny if someone has to explain it to you, you'll just have to continue going through life wondering why people find it funny. And some people will never understand what *you* think is funny.

    11. Re:Obligatory by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 1

      Can anyone explain to me the appeal of xkcd comics? A lot of people think they're great, but I don't see why.

      Regarding "Marmaduke", I seem to remember Chris Rock or somebody once saying, "The dog is big. We get it". I used to love "Peanuts" when I was a kid, but as I got older, it's became hard when I saw those to even know what the joke was supposed to be. (Yes, a few things do get harder as you get older.) So, we should let the kids here enjoy these things while they still can.

    12. Re:Obligatory by jrumney · · Score: 2

      Are there really 3 struggling to become the global leader though? From what I can see, there's Qi, which is widely supported by devices, and there's a couple of competing standards which don't want to die, occasionally announcing agreements with restaurant/cafe chains to put their unused charging devices into stores.

    13. Re:Obligatory by bickerdyke · · Score: 2

      Others are just plain unoriginal observations. The one you linked to is a good example of this.

      That's why you can quote them on so many occasions.

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    14. Re:Obligatory by silentcoder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On the other hand, a hacker who actually gave her child a SQL injection as legal name... now that's some funny shit right there !

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    15. Re:Obligatory by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      In fact one of the competitors has already agreed to become Qi compatible, so basically given up and started concentrating on just delivering turn-key solutions rather than its own standard that no-one uses.

      Qi is the only one anyone uses or cares about. The others had the dubious "advantage" of requiring a two-way link between the charger and device, exchanging serial numbers and other data. The public justification was to allow charging money for the service, but it was marketed to business as a way to track devices (and thus people) using your "free" chargers.

      Qi has already won, fortunately.

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    16. Re:Obligatory by stub667 · · Score: 1

      There might be three standards, but if the article is to be believed they aren't exactly competing.

      One (Qi) is supported by several major handset manufactorers. Another is in bed with Starbucks (USA?). The third doesn't even get a mention beyond that it exists. Given that Starbuck's products don't need wireless charging it would seem any war has already been won by Qi.

  2. Let me guess the name of the line by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    I am sure this line of furniture will get some name like Nokaard (with two dots over the o).

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    1. Re: Let me guess the name of the line by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Nokaard (with two dots over the o).

      Maybe just 'Discard ' - at least the electronics will fail about the same time as the joinery.

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    2. Re: Let me guess the name of the line by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 2

      You get what you pay for with IKEA. In fact, if you compare their stuff to similarly priced stuff you get a lot more than you pay for.

      You can buy real wood furniture from them and it lasts far longer. It's not even that much more expensive. Especially if you cheat and glue the pieces in addition to screwing them together with the included stuff. The main disadvantage to gluing is that you can't take it apart to move it but you can't do that too often anyway.

      Old IKEA furniture can often have a new lease on life if you take it apart and glue it back together with a polyurethane based glue (often called filling glue). Cheap and relatively easy. Note: take lots of pictures while taking it apart. Those pictures in reverse are your manual (since the original manual is probably lost).

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    3. Re: Let me guess the name of the line by torkus · · Score: 1

      Just be careful when assembling particleboard furniture with gorilla glue (aka polyurethane glue) ... it will NEVER come apart. You will need to smash the particleboard itself if you ever want to break it down as the glue is far stronger than the wood.

      What this means is...if you build it and it does't sit perfectly flat while the glue cures then your furniture will forever be wonky and crooked. I'm careful when I build and have ikea furniture that's lasted close to a decade through 5 or 6 moves without anything coming loose.

      Oh, and good luck if get it on your hands of clothes *sigh*

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    4. Re: Let me guess the name of the line by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
      I have put together IKEA like furniture a lot, took them apart and reassembled it.

      The most important thing to remember is the back cardboard thing that closed the shelves and stuff is not a purely decorative item. It is not for aestherics. This provides the torsional rigidity needed to keep the shelf square. Make sure it is maintained right. The nails go into the soft exposed particle board and comes loose. Make sure it is nailed back in.

      Get some 1inch x 1 inch steel L clams and lots of M5 or M6 nuts and washers too. Stress concentration is murder on particle boards, so use washers to spread the load around the clamps. Shake the furniture, find which parts shake and "give", add a few L clamps judiciously, the furniture will feel a lot more solid.

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    5. Re: Let me guess the name of the line by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      Just be careful when assembling particleboard furniture with gorilla glue (aka polyurethane glue) ... it will NEVER come apart. You will need to smash the particleboard itself if you ever want to break it down as the glue is far stronger than the wood.

      Indeed. polyurethane glue is just for a second lease on life. As with most wood glues it is stronger than the particle board.

      What this means is...if you build it and it does't sit perfectly flat while the glue cures then your furniture will forever be wonky and crooked. I'm careful when I build and have ikea furniture that's lasted close to a decade through 5 or 6 moves without anything coming loose.

      Good point. Having said that, I haven't had an IKEA thing being wonky. Even those given a second lease on life. May be just luck, may be that I take my time when assembling them.

      Oh, and good luck if get it on your hands of clothes *sigh*

      Hands: it forms a hard coating on your skin. That coating will come off because it isn't as flexible as your skin. You'll be shedding it for a day or two.
      Washing doesn't help. Anything I know of that dissolves it dissolves your skin even faster.
      Clothes: Never use glue with nice clothes on. Unless it's water dissoluble glue.

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  3. Furniture with Google Wallet support? by auntieNeo · · Score: 1

    I read the title and thought "Gee, why would I want a sofa to charge me for sitting down? How much does a nap cost at IKEA?" I must be tired.

  4. Electric furniture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yippppeeee to electric furniture!!!!!! No Yipppeee to electric furniture charging people!!

  5. Butt Cancer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Does sitting on a superfluous electromagnetic field for eight or more hours a day really a good idea?

    1. Re:Butt Cancer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Qi standard only enables the charging after negotiating with the device. Unless they make a char with it and you sit down on it while having your phone in the back pocket you'll be fine.

    2. Re:Butt Cancer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'll still be fine with the phone in your pocket... Your phone, however, might not be if you are sitting on it.

    3. Re:Butt Cancer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might make a char with it, if you sit down with a wet behind...

    4. Re:Butt Cancer by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      You do that already. Unless you spend your days in a Faraday cage in the dark.
      You do KNOW that light is part of the electromagnetic spectrum right ?

      Not to mention the fact that the earth itself generates a massive magnetic field ? You are aware that this magnetic field is actually electromagnetic right ?

      You may as well ask if it's "really a good idea to spend 8 hours a day at the bottom of a large gravity well".

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    5. Re:Butt Cancer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Though, to be fair, our gravity well is actually pretty miniscule in the grand scheme of things.

    6. Re:Butt Cancer by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Does sitting on a superfluous electromagnetic field for eight or more hours a day really a good idea?

      Probably not. I'd be more concerned about the effects of spending that much time sitting on me arse.

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    7. Re:Butt Cancer by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      You may as well ask if it's "really a good idea to spend 8 hours a day at the bottom of a large gravity well".

      Oh gawd - now you did it. As if we didn't have enough to worry about. We must eliminate this gravity substance.

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  6. Wasteful? by Paleolibertarian · · Score: 1

    I'd like to see some figures on the amount of energy lost when these devices aren't being used. Then to compare them to the energy wasted by wall transformers when they are idle.

    1. Re:Wasteful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Energy can only escape through heat. Unless the table gets warm, there is no loss.

    2. Re:Wasteful? by Bartles · · Score: 3, Informative

      In the Qi system, the transformer isn't energized unless a compatible device is present.

    3. Re:Wasteful? by Paleolibertarian · · Score: 1

      This is a good thing. I'm glad to see that there are engineers who think better than my assumption of just plain induction coils.

      Thanks.

    4. Re:Wasteful? by Paleolibertarian · · Score: 1

      The coil of wire is resistive so there will be heat as long as there is a current according to ohms law and the power formula. E = I x R and P = E x I.

    5. Re:Wasteful? by necro81 · · Score: 1

      Well, to quote the summary: "Ikea's introduction of wireless charging functionality on some of its new furniture heats up the battle for a global wireless charging standard"

      Although you can get up into the 80% range (short distance between emitter and receiver, good axial alignment, well-tuned resonance frequencies, and proper shielding), you are more likely to be in the 50-75% efficiency range. That's for the inductive portion; there is also a loss in converting the 120/220V power from the wall. [I speak from professional experience developing a Qi-charged medical device. It was a good solution for the problem, as it allowed the case to be fully sealed, but turned me off the idea of using it for everything that needs charging.] For 5-10 W of actual charge power in the device, your losses from grid to device will be close to that amount This is about as bad as the 50-60 Hz wall wart transformers that we have recently gotten away from.

    6. Re:Wasteful? by Echo_Hotel · · Score: 1

      it's not wasteful when it's not being used but it sure is wasteful when it is. The efficiency is something like 50% of the radiated energy actually making it to the device in usable form, I'll stick with copper for now.

    7. Re:Wasteful? by hawguy · · Score: 1

      Well, to quote the summary: "Ikea's introduction of wireless charging functionality on some of its new furniture heats up the battle for a global wireless charging standard"

      Although you can get up into the 80% range (short distance between emitter and receiver, good axial alignment, well-tuned resonance frequencies, and proper shielding), you are more likely to be in the 50-75% efficiency range. That's for the inductive portion; there is also a loss in converting the 120/220V power from the wall. [I speak from professional experience developing a Qi-charged medical device. It was a good solution for the problem, as it allowed the case to be fully sealed, but turned me off the idea of using it for everything that needs charging.] For 5-10 W of actual charge power in the device, your losses from grid to device will be close to that amount This is about as bad as the 50-60 Hz wall wart transformers that we have recently gotten away from.

      My phone battery has around 8 watt-hours of capacity. Round it up to 10 watt-hours, and that's around 3.6KWh/year to charge my phone every day, so even if I'm wasting another 3.6KWh/year, that's only costing me around 50 cents/year of electricity, which is well worth the convenience of just putting my phone on the side table when I go to bed and not having to fumble with wires in the dark to connect it to a charger.

    8. Re:Wasteful? by acoustix · · Score: 1

      In the Qi system, the transformer isn't energized unless a compatible device is present.

      So there is something using power while it is constantly searching for a device, right?

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    9. Re:Wasteful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Energy can only escape through heat.

      Or insulation...

    10. Re: Wasteful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, just like any device like a TV or DVD player that has an IR sensor has a powered sensor waiting for a signal.

    11. Re:Wasteful? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Energy can only escape through heat. Unless the table gets warm, there is no loss.

      You must be the guy who posts those perpetual motion videos on Youtube.

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  7. Re:Obligatory, #2: Laws of Physics by slashdoter · · Score: 5, Informative

    Translation #3, you don't know about the QI charging standard.

    It has a command channel for the device to let the charger know it should be charged.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_%28inductive_power_standard%29

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  8. Ikea Karlstad couches designed by idiots! by Browzer · · Score: 1

    Can't vouch for Ikea's new couches, but their Karlstad line was designed by idiots. 99% of the skeleton of the couch is made out of real wood (pine I think), EXCEPT the parts that hold the legs, where most of the stress occurs, which are made out of particle board.

    1. Re:Ikea Karlstad couches designed by idiots! by Vadim+Makarov · · Score: 1

      I dunno. I had a home stocked with IKEA, and now have a lab full of cabinets (several types, over 50 units in total). This has survived one said lab relocation between buildings, in a truck. No breakages. The only problem was with one (out of 100+) drawer cabinet's bottom that fell through when we loaded it with HEAVY metal parts, but I fully understand these cabinets were not designed to handle this load. I have fixed it in half an hour usung a bracket from another IKEA drawer, anyway.

      I don't know what you folks do with furniture. In normal use, IKEA is durable enough and well-designed. It looks flimsy but in my experience is more durable than many other heavier-looking pieces of furniture.

      In any case, if something breaks in normal use, email IKEA. They have a customer service that works. At the very least they can mail you broken parts.

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    2. Re:Ikea Karlstad couches designed by idiots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every couch I have bought from Ikea has collapsed very early. I'm a small guy, so its not my weight. Their low end couches are very poorly designed.
      Their bookshelves hold up pretty well. You can buy some sturdy furniture at Ikea but you have to purchase 2 above their cheapest line.

    3. Re:Ikea Karlstad couches designed by idiots! by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      In any case, if something breaks in normal use, email IKEA. They have a customer service that works. At the very least they can mail you broken parts.

      And spare parts are available even years after you bought the cabinet. That's what I like about IKEA. Their stuff is custumizable and even after years I can get teh stuff that I need to extend or reconfigure my wardrobe. And about durability.... check the uproar that their announced change in Expedit caused. That thing seems to be the only shelv that could be loaded fully with records (or a fish tank) without bending. (Compared to more expensive and more sturdy looking stuff)

      On the other hand, I have to agree with the couches. Great idea again to have a few basic constructions and lots of different covers that can be washed or replaced easily. But I can't remember sitting on anything as uncomfortable as an ikea couch.

      And with their habot over the last years of retiring products and moving to shorter lived series, they're giving up that special IKEA-ness that made them popular with geekd. (ikeahacks.com)

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    4. Re:Ikea Karlstad couches designed by idiots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reason the Expedit could be loaded like that (without bending) compared to other of their shelving units has little to do with the materials or durability. It has to do with the fact that there are vertical supports every 12" or so no matter which way you orient the Expedit. If you slotted in similar vertical supports from top to bottom, virtually *any* shelving unit will behave the same way.

  9. Ikea naming convention by PPH · · Score: 1

    Elchock

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    1. Re:Ikea naming convention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like "Chocka" or "Spännande".

  10. It won't fly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People will quickly tire of using the hex wrench as a generator crank.

  11. Not really innovative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    End tables and night stands have been coming with USB ports for years now.

  12. Good by Samuel+Dravis · · Score: 1

    Wireless charging is fantastic-- it eliminates effort and wear and tear on all my devices' historical weakness, the mechanical stress on the charging port. I've replaced all chargers I can with Qi chargers.

  13. HEADLINE: IKEA MAKES ELECTRIC CHAIR by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Funny

    Alabama and Oklahoma have orgasm.

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    1. Re:HEADLINE: IKEA MAKES ELECTRIC CHAIR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Leftie needs a wahmbulance.

  14. Re:Obligatory, #2: Laws of Physics by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    And the thing wrong in your post which others have not already pointed out is that many phones come with the ability to add a wireless coil of choice already, even older phones like the 3 generations old Galaxy S3 which has a pair of contacts right above the battery. That isn't even taking into account phones like the HTC One which has had wireless charging since its early models.

  15. Call the marketing department! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Our new electric recliners have a problem. The contractor used cabling with substandard shielding. These things practically glow."

    "No problem. Advertise they now have a 'wireless charging feature. "

    Marketing. Is there anything they can't do?

  16. I strongly disagree. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    I strongly disagree. The whole idea is nonsense. If there is a failure of the "command channel" in the table, everything I said is correct. Do you trust Ikea to make 100% reliable electronics?

    A few days ago, at a store called Dollar Tree, I bought a Charge and Sync dock for $1. Wouldn't a dock be better than buying cheap-looking Ikea furniture, especially since the convenience is minimal or non-existent?

    Who would EVER put an expensive phone flat on a table??? That's asking for trouble. It's easy to knock it off.

    I'm NOT saying the $1 dock is better. I'm saying that a dock is better than laying a phone flat on a table. (The $1 dock needs a charging transformer, of course.)

    Look at the Wikipedia page to which you linked! Quoting: "This article appears to be written like an advertisement."

    Air core transformers, especially air core transformers with distance between the primary and secondary, don't transfer much energy. Do you want to wait longer because you bought an ugly-looking Ikea table?

    1. Re:I strongly disagree. by rHBa · · Score: 2

      Who would EVER put an expensive phone flat on a table???

      No, I always balance mine on its edge. That's assuming there aren't any kids running around, otherwise I leave it on the floor. Idiot.

    2. Re:I strongly disagree. by fisted · · Score: 1
      I like how you say something dumb, get called out for it, and then follow up with random statements completely unrelated to your original point... But i truly lost it at

      If there is a failure of the "command channel" in the table, everything I said is correct.

      (not only because it's complete nonsense)
      Please quit posting on /. forever. Thanks.

    3. Re:I strongly disagree. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You keep rambling on about how expensive smart phones are. You sound poor and you're embarrassing yourself.

    4. Re:I strongly disagree. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I strongly disagree. The whole idea is nonsense. If there is a failure of the "command channel" in the table, everything I said is correct.

      LOL....and if there's ever a failure of the laws of physical, this paper cup on my desk could set off a thermonuclear chain reaction wiping out half of the united states. But why don't we just stick to what's likely to happen.

    5. Re:I strongly disagree. by itzly · · Score: 2

      I leave mine in the aquarium, safely out of reach from the kids.

    6. Re:I strongly disagree. by wbr1 · · Score: 1
      I try not to engage in personal attacks, but i have to say man, you really looked like a jacktard there,

      Pro-tip, when you make an erroneous and asinine statement (which we all do from time to time), and someone calls you out on it, be humble, bow your head and admit it, or remain silent.
      Following the refutation with random stupidity makes you look even worse.

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    7. Re:I strongly disagree. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I trust that Ikea bought the charging electronics from a company that knows how to make 100% reliable electronics.

    8. Re:I strongly disagree. by shbazjinkens · · Score: 1

      I leave mine in the aquarium, safely out of reach from the kids.

      Me too! http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/...

  17. Ikea is designed for cheapness. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Always has been. And it's been getting 'worse', given the economic realities of the world.

    If you're looking for quality, long-lasting furniture and you're in an Ikea, you're doing it so very, very wrong.

  18. Socket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So now I have to plug in my coffee table?
    I'll have to use an extension cord for that.

    1. Re:Socket by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      RTFA.

      That's why they're starting including those charging devices into lamps.

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  19. Bad move Ikea - should gone A4WP / Rezence by Glasswire · · Score: 1

    A4WP and PMA have merged to form Rezence, which should become the prevailing standard as it's better technology than Qi. So it's really too bad that Ikea is supporting WPC - which will probably not emerge as the winning standard. Ikea can always make next year's furniture with Rezence, but it's not clear first gen customers that got Qi would be able to upgrade. Also the article is misleading in that it suggests Samsung is completely in the WPC camp when they are also involved with and helped found A4WP (Rezence) and believe it's the future.

    1. Re:Bad move Ikea - should gone A4WP / Rezence by silas_moeckel · · Score: 1

      A wireless standard that nobody integrates is not that useful. Qi is on a lot of devices now, the low end supports 5w of power and medium 120w. People are already hacking qi charging stations into their keyboards and desks. You can add qi charging into nearly anything with a USB port and a flat space.

      Now that said something in the 10-20w range would be nice.

      The competitors standard relies on bluetooth and thus generally the ability to communicate with the device CPU. Do you trust a random wireless charging station?

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  20. In related news.... by mtrachtenberg · · Score: 1

    Ikea proudly announces the first induction-heating sofa.

  21. Anger, not sensible discussion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot is now often an outlet for angry people, rather than a forum for sensible discussion.

  22. It slices, it dices! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now you can have all the comfort of a lounger AND a wireless recharger with only a *slight chance of infertility.

    *Down from 100% to 99%!

  23. Re:Obligatory, #2: Laws of Physics by spire3661 · · Score: 1

    Palm Pre beat them all years ago. I dont understand why it has taken so long for everyone else to offer it.

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  24. Goodness, gracious, by mentalfloss · · Score: 1

    Great balls of fire.

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  25. Just one issue by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    When the furniture comes from Ikea, you have to solder the components of the power controller together yourself.

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    1. Re:Just one issue by itzly · · Score: 1

      ... using a small hex wrench.

  26. It started years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When cars moved into the home, then we got smart fridges, now the furniture is designed for them instead of use. Soon our overlords will evict us...

  27. Re:Obligatory, #2: Laws of Physics by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    It's worth noting though that the channel is unidirectional and not used for evil like the comms in the other two standards.

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  28. Paid ad for Ikea? Wireless charging is slower. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wireless charging is slower than wired charging. Why do it?

    Yes, cell phone connectors have often been faulty. There is a conflict of interest. Cell phone companies make more money if people buy new phones. The connectors should be improved.

    Did someone at Slashdot get paid to run a story about Ikea? Otherwise, the story makes no sense.

  29. Re:Obligatory, #2: Laws of Physics by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

    And paid huge amounts for it including the 2-year contract.

    There are a lot of phones which are cheap, without subsidy:
      * Moto G and Nexus 5
      * Anything from Oppo
      * Anything from One Plus
      * Anything from Xiaomi
      * Most of the Lumias

    Many of those support Qi (I know for a fact that the Google ones and the Lumias do). I also know for a fact that T-Mobile doesnt require any sort of contract for phones, and that most carriers couldnt care less if you brought a new phone on-board.

    Finally, for those who dont want to replace the phone, there are add-ons that will add the Qi coils to your phone via USB.
    http://www.amazon.com/Wireless...

  30. Re:Obligatory, #2: Laws of Physics by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

    Palm Pre beat them all years ago. I dont understand why it has taken so long for everyone else to offer it.

    Probably because wireless charging sounds like the best thing ever, but in fact is more restrictive than those awful plug-in paraphanelia.

    I have these visions of people placing their Ikea chair in their car so they can charge their phones wirelessly. It ends up being a third thing you have to charge your phone.

    So unless you never go out of Mom's basement you will need a wall charger, a car charger, and now a wireless charger.

    The principles of wireless charging are simple, and could be implemented decades ago. Problem is it just ain't all that. You are every bit as tethered to something as any other charging technology. Much ado about not having to plug in a wire. certainly not all that different from charging docks for handheld radios that have been around forever.

    Because when people think of "wireless charging", they think of carrying their phone with them and it automagically charges, wherever they are. Always fully charged, never comes out of your pocket unless you are using the phone The truth is somewhat different. Roughly the same utility as different colored phones. NOt new, and there's a reason they didn't adopt it aeons ago.

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  31. Re:Obligatory, #2: Laws of Physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regards your signature, I have not. However, I have seen a program which was designed to control a weapons system which failed causing millions of dollars worth of damage, and which very nearly killed 135 people. The reason? It was written in C++, and used strcat to concatenate two strings. In the constants area, consequently overwriting the constants used by its degrees-to-radians function. Worse, the compiler (under the optimisations that were used) just compiled that without warnings. Finally, what makes this worse still that when I was called in to analyse this incident, it had already been code reviewed by software 'experts' from the contractor and from the Navy - who knew that there was a serious problem - and none of them found it.

    People can write egregiously bad code in any language you care to name. But you can write very much more dangerous code in lower level languages, because many classes of error (such as this one) are simply impossible to make in higher level languages. And - as this example shows - code review, even by highly qualified people, will not pick up all bugs.

    Yes, this is posted as 'anonymous coward'. I'm breaking the law, even saying this much.

    Oh, and, yes, I've also code reviewed control code for nuclear power systems, fortunately catching a couple of major errors before they bit anyone. But can you guarantee I didn't miss any? I can't.

  32. Re:Obligatory, #2: Laws of Physics by teg · · Score: 1

    Palm Pre beat them all years ago. I dont understand why it has taken so long for everyone else to offer it.

    Because until wireless charging actually is widely available, you can't just use a cable to charge your phone - you need an expensive cable with extra electronics to do so. Rather pointless, unless you want to go completely sealed for a water proof device. Until this happens, support for it in phones is a pointless gimmick. Ikea's move is one of the best things I've heard for the future of wireless charging.

  33. Wireless charging = Digital Turnip Twaddling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wireless charging is like Digital Turnip Twaddling. It takes advantage of mistakes people are likely to make.

    I'm surprised that an ad for an Ikea table would generate any approval, even among people who like to think they are superior.

  34. Cool idea by phorm · · Score: 1

    Question: Does it work when the lamp etc is turned off (but plugged in)

    Also, I really hope they come up with a better design, because while the feature may be desirable, the lamps are butt-ugly!

  35. Skeptical by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    "Ikea's move is one of the best things I've heard for the future of wireless charging."

    Would you buy that Ikea table so that you could use it to charge a phone?

  36. Re:Obligatory, #2: Laws of Physics by spire3661 · · Score: 1

    Huh? My Palm Pre Wireless charging base used the standard charging cable that came with the phone to power it. Instead of plugging and unplugging my phone, i jsut set it on the dock, easy-peasy. It even had magnets so it would almost pull it out of your hand and align it. IN my car i had the same usb mini charger i have had for years. Why has it taken so long for anyone else to do this?

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  37. Competent? Buy a table to charge a phone? by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    Would an Ikea manager know enough about technology to know who is competent and who isn't?

    Would you buy an Ikea table because you want to charge a phone? The question makes me laugh.

  38. Re:Obligatory, #2: Laws of Physics by ale2011 · · Score: 1

    Translation #1: There is a coil in the table. There is a coil in the back of the phone. The 2 coils act as a transformer with an air core. That only works if you bought a new phone. (And paid huge amounts for it including the 2-year contract.)

    Heck, you're right. It's not quite the equivalent of POE for WiFi :-(

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