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Mars One Delayed 2 Years, CEO Releases Video In Response To Criticism
CryoKeen writes It's interesting how different news sites spin #marsgate. From Yahoo News: "The private colonization project Mars One has pushed its planned launch of the first humans toward the Red Planet back by two years, to 2026. The delay was necessitated by a lack of investment funding, which has slowed work on a robotic precursor mission that Mars One had wanted to send toward the Red Planet in 2018, Mars One CEO Bas Lansdorp said in a new video posted today... 'We had a very successful investment round in 2013 that has financed all the things that we have done up to now. And we have actually come to an agreement with a consortium of investors late last year for a much bigger round of investments. Unfortunately, the paperwork of that deal is taking much longer than we expected,' Lansdorp said in the video." This Astrowatch article is a lot more scathing and to the point: "Mars One, the Dutch company planning to send people on a one-way trip to Mars, that recently selected a group of 100 hopefuls, struggles with criticism. In a Medium story this week, Mars One finalist Joseph Roche presented multiple reasons as to why he believed the entire operation is a complete scam. In response, the company published a video Thursday in which Bas Lansdorp, CEO and Co-founder of Mars One, replies to recent criticism concerning the feasibility of Mars One's human trip to Mars. He also revealed that the mission will be delayed for two years. Roche said that the 'only way' to get selected for the next round of the Mars One candidacy process was to donate money. 'My nightmare about it is that people continue to support it and give it money and attention, and it then gets to the point where it inevitably falls on its face,' Roche told Elmo Keep for Medium."
I for one welcome our completely scamming overlords.
If you have to pay a fee to get the job -- it's a scam. Except in this case, they're not even bothering to guarantee you the job. Because it's so exciting, they need only promise you the opportunity. And then further down the road, they'll likely ask for more money, "to get further up the ladder, still".
http://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/694333
In other words: the scam is working nicely, and we'd like to milk this cow for another 2 years.
next you will be an Independent contractor and have to pay for all your tools and other stuff needed to do the job. And once on mars you can't go to court.
The delay was necessitated by a lack of investment funding
Maybe because they don't have a rocket, a ship, a way to land, a way to ferry supplies, a way to fund those supplies, or a way to live on another planet long term. Only a fool would dump money on this adventure.
I am becoming gerund, destroyer of verbs.
The potential for scamming is out of this world!
although it would make for a great survivor sequel, albeit a single episode.
Mars one claims $6B to put 4 people on mars.
On one side -how do they plan to raise that amount of money? They use the Olympics as an example,but that is an event with an enormous viewership. Are they claiming they can get anything like a similar number of viewers for a bunch of guys living (or slowly dying) on mars?
On the other side, what technology do they have that makes a mars mission cost $6B, not the hundreds of billions that NASA estimates? Sure they may be able to do for somewhat less money, but a factor of 100??? Where is their demonstration of technical expertise to support such a claim?
Its just a scam.
What's the point of selecting the astronauts 10 years in advance?
It's not like they will receive continuous training until they depart.
They will age. Some might even die. Some might change their mind.
Stop posting thinks about this Mars One bullshit scam.
And once on mars you can't go to court.
That would be Martian H1-B status, since you are an alien there.
The Biosphere2 scam from the late 80s, early 90s was embarrassing enough - but this seems to be even worse.
... of course it's a scam!
How much does it cost to stage a Capricorn One-like scam? Doesn't seem so difficult to me: buy a remote island, build a sound stage on it, stage the lift off, have the "astronauts" live there while continuing to rake in the dough on subsequent missions to send supplies, after a while "build" the technology to bring them back... book/movie deals for the "astronauts", scammers get paid.
"It's interesting how different news sites spin #marsgate"
That's because there are quality news sites and there are blogs. There is no evidence Mars One is not sincere in their attempts.
Here's another medium article by the Mars One applicants refuting the conspiracy theory: https://medium.com/@oscarmathe...
Can't wait for the movie,"Invaders from Earth."
Several reasons:
* Curiosity has almost twice the landed weight of the Viking Landers
* Rocket thrusters firing at ground level would contaminate the soil, which they wanted to analyze
* Curiosity is a rover. You either are carrying dead weight from the propulsion system, or need a roll-off ramp
* Curiosity's wheels and suspension allowed landing on rougher ground by landing on them directly. Rocket thrusters might have damaged the wheels by throwing rocks around
I only lay odds of 50:50 even in 2226.
By then "Mars One" would likely have a launch-pad and technics to operate it. However, it's 100:1 odds that their "space ship" will blow up on the pad killing everyone.
But the company manager would still be able to claim that the company didi send the 100-or-so people on their way to Mars. Its is just that they only reached 300 meters on the trajectory of the journey. This will however be very satisfactory to the backing insurance companies which will block any law-suit complaints by relatives of the deceased. And, returns on stock will be very favorable.
Ha ha
Ditto.
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According to a National Research Council with the National Academies of Science issued a report last year that indicated the USA will not have humans capable of travel to the Moon or Mars for at least 50 years. This is due firstly to the requirements of education and training, there currently is non, second, to the humans who will educate and train the humans to go on the voyages, there are non, and thirdly, the national economy and social infrastructures necessary to under-right the cost of of education and training of the humans who will train the humans for the voyages and fourthly these humans do not exists yet because they have not been born.
Given the reality and economics of human space flight, a credible attempt at a mission to the Moon or Mars is at least 150 year away.
This indicates the Mars One Organization is a fraud.
Ha ha
Even if it's not an intentional scam, the numbers, timeline, and science just don't add up. NASA has a lot more experience with this kind of thing, and they're suggesting numbers nearly 20 times as big for a project like this.
I'd trust NASA's experience long before I'd trust some rich guy's wishful thinking. Especially if I were planning to put my life on the line. Not that an overweight 50 year old would qualify for such a project. :P
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In my opinion, anyone who volunteers for a one way trip to a barren planet like Mars is certifiably insane, and therefore shouldn't be permitted control over their money to "donate" to this scam.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Gee the funny thing is that space is expensive, who knew? If you are planning to send humans to Mars on a pittance then you need to scrape that pittance together first. They are planning to do this for about $10 billion - some of NASA's (admittedly not very efficient) plans have budgeted for over $1 trillion for getting humans to Mars. $10 billion isn't Ryan air its more like the space version of 'boat people'.. .. and most of it was wasted... $1 trillion is enough to fill the pockets of every bent politician in America. (and that's a lot) Ultimate result : Saddam Hussein (Bad) --> ISIS (Worse)
Saying all the above $10 billion is still actually a lot of money, and raising it and even spending it are not exactly easy, and cannot be done overnight. The thing that annoys me about this debate is that its the kind of thing that can actually make projects like this less likely to succeed. If you want to look at a real scam go and look at George Bush and the Iraq war - there was a trillion dollars spent
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