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Debian GNU/Hurd 2015 Released
An anonymous reader sends this announcement from the debian-hurd mailing list: It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2015. This is a snapshot of Debian "sid" at the time of the stable Debian "jessie" release (April 2015), so it is mostly based on the same sources. It is not an official Debian release, but it is an official Debian GNU/Hurd port release. The installation ISO images can be downloaded from Debian Ports in the usual three Debian flavors: NETINST, CD, or DVD. Besides the friendly Debian installer, a pre-installed disk image is also available there, making it even easier to try Debian GNU/Hurd. The easiest way to run it is inside a VM such as qemu.
Why is it 3 1.7 GB ISOs on 3 DVDs instead of 2 DVDs?
in fact, why is it 5.2 GB?
It does run Duke Nukem Forever!
All other distros suck balls.
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
The announcement:
"the init system has been switched to sysvinit for a more Debian-like experience"
The current Debian init experience (according to Slashdot comments):
"Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light."
Am I missing something? Did /. delay April fools?
MY distro is emacs on systemd.
After being away working on CentOS and Archlinx for Asterisk radio station links, I'm back on Debian... home sweet home.
I'd imagine no since it's not a Linux kernel. Would that mean this is the last release we'll see of Debian GNU/Herd since the next release of Debian will be full of systemd-dependencies?
.. the year of the HURD desktop?
the weather in michigan...
Soooo late.
GNU HURD still only runs in 32-bit mode. while you can run it on a 64-bit processor, you lose all the cool tricks you can do on 64-bit processors, especially when it comes to virtual machines.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
does it run systemd
Debian rejects game due to authors opinion on women.
A properly licensed opensource casino video game was
recently posted to the debian bug tracker as a request
for packaging, as is the standard method for pursuing
such things in debian.
The bug was quickly closed, tagged as "won't fix"
The reason given by one of the debian developers
alluded to the authors past anti-feminist remarks:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi...
The piece of software in question is licensed
under the GPL and is one of the only of it's
kind for linux (ascii-art console slot machine software)
Is professing progressive politics now a hard requirement
for being allowed to contribute to free software projects?
Debian developers also threatened author with lengthy imprisonment, denied existence of author's contributions
Previously a debian developer, Erich Schubert, claimed that the author of gpcslots had never
contributed anything to opensource, was corrected, replyed to the corrections,
and then deleted the corrections and left up his false claims.
Author has contributed gigabytes of media to opensource, years of programming
work, and has been involved in numerous projects.
http://www.vitavonni.de/blog/2...
Another debian developer, Josselin Mouette, (while bragging that he, JM, had successfuly
campaigned to ban prostitution in france, have Johns arrested, and had run
mafias out of the country) told the author that he was going to have him
arrested by the FBI (van'd) because the author suggested there was no sin
in marrying young girls (and cited a bible verse in support of that).
http://np237.livejournal.com/3...
Debian's opinion on "anti-systemd people":
http://etbe.coker.com.au/2015/...
For some reason the men in the Linux community who hate women the most seem to have taken a dislike to systemd. I understand that being \u201cconservative\u201d might mean not wanting changes to software as well as not wanting changes to inequality in society but even so this surprised me. My last blog post about systemd has probably set a personal record for the amount of misogynistic and homophobic abuse I received in the comments. More gender and sexuality related abuse than I usually receive when posting about the issues of gender and sexuality in the context of the FOSS community! For the record this doesn\u2019t bother me, when I get such abuse I\u2019m just going to write more about the topic in question.
While the issue of which init system to use by default in Debian was being discussed we had a lot of hostility from unimportant people who for some reason thought that they might get their way by being abusive and threatening people. As expected that didn\u2019t give the result they desired, but it did result in a small trend towards people who are less concerned about the reactions of users taking on development work related to init systems.
The next thing that they did was to announce a \u201cfork\u201d of Debian. Forking software means maintaining a separate version due to a serious disagreement about how it should be maintained. Doing that requires a significant amount of work in compiling all the source code and testing the results. The sensible option would be to just maintain a separate repository of modified packages as has been done many times before. One of the most well known repositories was the Debian Multimedia repository, it was controversial due to flouting legal issues (the developer produced code that was legal where they lived) and due to confusion among users. But it demonstrated that you can make a repository containing many modified packages. In my work on SE Linux I\u2019ve always had a repository of packages containing changes that haven\u2019t been accepted into Debian, which included changes to SysVInit in about 2001.
The latest news on the fork-Debian front seems to be the call for donations [4]. Apparently most of the money that was spent went to accounting fees and buying a laptop for a developer. The amount of money involved is fairly small, Forbes has an article about how awful people can use \u201ccontroversy\u201d to get crowd-funding windfalls [5].
MikeeUSA is an evil person who hates systemd [6]. This isn\u2019t any sort of evidence that systemd is great (I\u2019m sure that evil people make reasonable choices about software on occasion). But it is a significant factor in support for non-systemd variants of Debian (and other Linux distributions). Decent people don\u2019t want to be associated with people like MikeeUSA, the fact that the anti-systemd people seem happy to associate with him isn\u2019t going to help their cause.
I was about to make an ironical comment but decided to send a positive message. I will do the same when they release the next version (supposing that I will still be alive at that time).
--- Signature? You must be kidding!
A ten year old boy in Santa Monica has purchased a strawberry ice-cream with the intention to consume it instantly.
This is great news. Congratulations to the team for their accomplishment and for their dedication. I think we will all benefit from the long-awaited emergence of HURD as a choice of kernel. People now have the choice of a microkernel, which may be a superior choice in some applications. We now have a GPLv3-or-later license for an essential component of the operating system. And, as others have pointed out, we now have a release of Debian that is likely to remain systemd-free, providing everyone with a way to continue using the GNU system without being exposed to any future mission creep by systemd.
And finally, the Great Naming Wars might see a reprieve. Instead of choosing between GNU/Linux and 'Linux' to refer to the operating system, maybe people using the HURD kernel can just say they just use the GNU operating system. A man can dream!
All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the GNU World Order.
9/11: Never forget it was a false-flag operation
Does it run emacs?
If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough. (Alan Kay)