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Kepler's "Superflare" Stars Sport Huge, Angry Starspots

astroengine writes: Astronomers studying stars like our sun that are known to generate powerful "superflares" have also discovered that these superflares are likely associated with monster "starspots." In 2012, using Kepler Space Telescope data — which is usually associated with the detection of exoplanets as they drift (or transit) in front of their host stars — astronomers were able to identify several hundred superflare events on a number of sun-like stars. These gargantuan events kicked out flares with 10-10,000 times more energy than our sun is able to muster. Keeping in mind that these stars are sun-like stars, what makes them such superflare powerhouses? Why is our sun such a featherweight in comparison? In an effort to understand the dynamics of superflare stars and perhaps answer these questions, astronomers from Kyoto University, University of Hyogo, the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan (NAOJ) and Nagoya University turned to the High Dispersion Spectrograph on the Subaru Telescope, located atop Mauna Kea in Hawaii, to carry out spectroscopic measurements of 50 of Kepler's superflare targets. And they found that all the superflare stars possessed huge starspots that completely dwarf our sun's sunspots.

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  1. Gettin' old, man by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    Our sun is middle age

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    1. Re:Gettin' old, man by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      Indeed, they should not mock our sun for it's small solar flares. It's a medical problem and we do not want it to fix it.

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  2. I don't know ... by riverat1 · · Score: 1

    why the Sun is such a lightweight in this regard but it's a good thing because otherwise we wouldn't be here.

    1. Re:I don't know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Allah did it, to make Earth safe for people to live on.

    2. Re:I don't know ... by no-body · · Score: 0

      Not sure if it's a "good" thing for "us" to be here. Mass extinction of species, ongoing wars and killings, the whole refugee situation in the mediterrian sea, human world population growth unmanageable, denial of climate change facts, a US representative claiming the earth being 6k years old.. Bigger sunspots would be just like that, bigger sunspots without all the other nonsense.

    3. Re:I don't know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If by "us" you mean the United States (of America) then you may have a point. ;-)

      Anyway, I believe the GP was a lot more general and obviously meant "all life on earth".

    4. Re:I don't know ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not Allah and his false prophet Moron...

      It was created by God...

  3. another way to wipe out life by bzipitidoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Somewhere between 4 and 5 billion years from now, the sun will turn into a red giant. Mercury and Venus are toast when that happens. Earth may be engulfed, or it may be pushed to a higher orbit, we're not sure.

    We have a bash with the Andromeda Galaxy scheduled in about 4 billion years. Seems the date has been moved up, as both Andromeda and the Milky Way may be larger than thought. That may not do anything to the solar system, everything could miss us. Or, we'll have a close encounter with a massive star and most of the planets, including Earth, will be flung into interstellar space. Or perhaps our entire solar system will be sent out of the galaxy.

    But none of that matters, because the sun is slowly getting hotter, and in about 1 billion years will be hot enough to boil away our oceans.

    At any time, a nearby supergiant could go supernova, and if a pole is pointed at us, all life dies from the massive quantities of radiation it puts out.

    In 15 billion years, the Earth becomes tidally locked to the Moon. Not fatal to all life, but will mess up a lot of species.

    At some point, the radioactive material in the Earth finishes decaying and generating heat. Then plate tectonics shuts down, and eventually all our continents erode into the ocean floor. If there is still an ocean when that happens, it will cover the world.

    But probably, we'll kill ourselves off long before any of that happens. Fun times.

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    1. Re:another way to wipe out life by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      I imagined this all voiced like the bear in The Missing Scarf. Jump to 2:39 if you are in a hurry.

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    2. Re:another way to wipe out life by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      I put the link in there but it apparently got eaten.
      https://vimeo.com/107395294

      Or I may have put it in forum tags instead of html...

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    3. Re:another way to wipe out life by Maritz · · Score: 1

      In 15 billion years, the Earth becomes tidally locked to the Moon. Not fatal to all life, but will mess up a lot of species.

      Seeing as the Sun will be a planetary nebula by then, it's probably not so much of a worry. :)

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    4. Re:another way to wipe out life by synaptic · · Score: 1

      You set some good deadlines but humanity has an opportunity to transcend these limits.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Type I
      "Technological level close to the level presently attained on earth, with energy consumption at 4×1019 erg/sec (4 × 1012 watts)."[1] Guillermo A. Lemarchand stated this as "A level near contemporary terrestrial civilization with an energy capability equivalent to the solar insolation on Earth, between 1016 and 1017 watts."[2]

      Type II
      "A civilization capable of harnessing the energy radiated by its own star (for example, the stage of successful construction of a Dyson sphere), "with energy consumption at 4×1033 erg/sec."[1] Lemarchand stated this as "A civilization capable of utilizing and channeling the entire radiation output of its star. The energy utilization would then be comparable to the luminosity of our Sun, about 4×1033 erg/sec (4×1026 watts)."[2]

      Type III
      "A civilization in possession of energy on the scale of its own galaxy, with energy consumption at 4×1044 erg/sec."[1] Lemarchand stated this as "A civilization with access to the power comparable to the luminosity of the entire Milky Way galaxy, about 4×1044 erg/sec (4×1037 watts)."[2]

  4. Haute spot by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    Man I haven't seen a monster flare that large since I ate that extra hot Thai food last Friday.

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  5. I think I know by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    Keeping in mind that these stars are sun-like stars, what makes them such superflare powerhouses? Why is our sun such a featherweight in comparison?

    It's because our sun is yellah.

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  6. Gas & Dust Clouds? by BlueStrat · · Score: 1

    Are these stars passing through relatively dense gas and/or dust clouds? Is it possible that is what is triggering/fueling these events?

    If that is the case, is Sol on a path that takes it through similar gas/dust clouds at some point in the future, and if so, how far in the future?

    Strat

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    1. Re:Gas & Dust Clouds? by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      INAA - But perhaps these other stars are made up of differing ratios of the elements based on what's already in the clouds of dust they're born from?? Differing ratios = differing densities, burn rate, and behaviors.

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  7. Just saying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Astronomers studying stars like our sun

    10-10,000 times more energy than our sun is able to muster

    Did it occur to the astronomers that maybe these stars aren't like our sun?

    1. Re:Just saying... by Maritz · · Score: 3, Informative

      In terms of classification, what matters most is temperature and luminosity. That tells you where the star is in terms of its life (e.g. where is it on the Hertzsprung-Russell chart). If a star has similar temperature and luminosity to the sun, then it's sun-like. It could be different in a myriad other ways but those are the important ones.

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    2. Re:Just saying... by fraxinus-tree · · Score: 2

      The things astronomers classify stars by are generally temperature and luminosity. Other things are not readily known just by looking at them once. Even if the stars look similar, they can differ a lot by composition, rotation speed, mass and so on.

  8. Alien Warfare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's evidence of Alien Warfare I tell you! They excite a star in such a way as to produce a planet-killer flare directed right at the enemy planet.

  9. Angry? by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

    I'll go with "huge", but is there some indication that these stars are mad, upset, or otherwise upset with their local stellar area?

  10. Star Maker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    already described and explained by Olaf Stapledon in "Star Maker"

  11. Is it possible the sun can do this sort of thing? by dmgxmichael · · Score: 2

    And it's just something that happens on timescales in the 10's of thousands or more years?

  12. Why are they angry? by fredrated · · Score: 1

    The starspots I mean. And if starspots is a word, why does the editor underline it in angry red?