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EU Drops Plans For Safer Pesticides After Pressure From US
An anonymous reader writes: The European Union recently published plans to ban 31 pesticides containing chemicals linked to testicular cancer and male infertility. Those potential regulations have now been dropped after a U.S. business delegation said they would adversely affect trade negotiations for the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership. "Just weeks before the regulations were dropped there had been a barrage of lobbying from big European firms such as Dupont, Bayer and BASF over EDCs. The chemical industry association Cefic warned that the endocrines issue 'could become an issue that impairs the forthcoming EU-US trade negotiations.'"
Seriously. If I wanted to know about other people's political beliefs, I would be on Facebook.
..there is money to be made!
The US is all about eficiency. Kill two birds with one stone!
News like this makes me angry and sad at the same time. The problem is that it's all so complicated that one cannot really understand the matter without spending years of work and research on it, and even then a citizen only gets a subset of all information that was presented.
The chemical industry for sure had arguments and data that supported their case, in same way that the opponents of the pesticides have their arguments and data. It all comes down to spinning information and conveniently omitting some facts (for sure on either side). How anyone, who is not a subject matter expert, can make a decision in this is just beyond me.
Everything that is good for citizens is bad for TTIP and vice versa.
A bit depressing knowing that i can barely do anything to stop such thing and even if enough people get outraged they will still sign the deal.. business is business who cares if someone gets hurt along the way....
There is no other way to apply the pressure needed to get what you want. Oh well, lack of resistance can only mean implied consent. We are on our own.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Sorry, but the US is not efficient. It's a big patchy system with no long term plan.
Tech is not only Si-tech, it is Chem-tech and Bio-tech too.
PS If your nerdiness ends by your keyboard, it is your own issue.
Dear EU sponges,
Shouldn't that be a good reason FOR pushing for this leglisation?
So, lemme recap, we not only don't get any protection from dangerous pesticides but we also get it so we can still have a trade agreement that has no beneficial effect whatsoever for EU corporations?
Thanks. Who are you working for again, just so we know? We're kinda confused.
signed, the idiots paying for you useless asshats.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Just in case anyone wasn't paying attention, we are consumers, nothing else. Consume, or else.
"The United States of America: keepin' it classy since 1776"
Well, now it looks like US corporations are flexing their muscles in Europe, reducing democracy there after all but buying legislators here in the US.
Nice to see that DuPont is flexing it's muscles. After cutting the {gentialia} off of Peltz (Trian Fund Management) in a stock holder vote, it's nice to see that Ellen (CEO DuPont) is going to continue with promoting products that cause endocrine-related illnesses such as IQ loss, obesity and cryptorchidism – a condition affecting the genitals of baby boys. "Better Living Through Chemistry" or is that "More Profit Through Chemistry"?
Bio-tech product considered banned due to research associating it with fertility problems, cancer, etc, are certainly tech related just as much as a CPU being banned due to harmful gasses emitted during operation or similar.
The male infertility is a red herring designed to make the pesticides look attractive to European men. This is really about the bees.
I guess you win the turing test, everyone else is still wondering why you don't think an endocrine system is relevant to your existence.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Force feed those involved in this, form both sides, specially those in the EU parliament, including those behind other different secret trans-pacific negotiations.
Make them suffer the consequences of their corrupt bought out decisions and force feed food treated exclusively with these pesticides. Make them suffer the rest of their lives in their poisoned morals and bodies.
OKey for the yeomanry to be chemically castrated for the pleasure and profit of modern chem.tek biznazi ... but history teaches should that shoe be placed on the other foot then a kinder/gentler Padronish heart may appear. Legal too! In context of current American merchantile oligarchy I JURY vote innocent by reason of self defence.
Think about it: Americans spent 700,000 lives aggrandizing Bantu savages into welfare clowns. If we spent another 700,000 lives retrieving primitive American values from sociopath globalist grifters would we have paid more or less for value received?
How to make something grow or die, no, that really can't be tech. It can only be tech if I understand it.
Won't that slow down population growth? Isn't that desirable?
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
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If we're unable to reproduce and dying off from testicular cancer, there will be less pressure on the food supply that will be dwindling as the pesticides kill off the bee population and the plant pollenation function they perform. The humans that are left can do that pollenation by hand when the bees are all gone.
See... it's all good!
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CUR ALLOC 20195.....5804M
#NUKETHEUSA
It's been almost 10 years since big Colony Collapse Disorder event. Bees are still dying every winter, but bee populations are up and prices for pollination have stabilized. The market has hacked around the problem of CCD and there will be no bee apocalypse, and the bee industry is strong and more ready to deal with the problem if it grows to a larger scale.
For pesticide use, I blame residential use of pesticides. While farmers know not to spray while blossoms are out, and especially not when they've paid good money to a bee keeper to pollinate their crops. Most residential users don't know any better, and are out there spraying their roses down to keep the aphids off, which is unfortunate because workers can take those pesticides back with them and spread it to the rest of the hive.
I really think there should be an public service announcement in every neighborhood in the US, EU and CA so people can begin to educate themselves on pesticide use. And possibly some much stricter labeling requirements for pesticides. A lot of home gardeners use stuff that is relatively harmless to humans, but pretty toxic to aphids as well as bees. And there are the folks that spray nicotine on their roses, which is quite effective, it is rather dangerous.
It's all about those bees, about those bees.
You know it is good for business, so just bend over now, and squeeeeeeel.
signed: The U.S.A
I could be coming home from a whittling contest and holding my knife out to see if it's been damaged.
I could LOOK like I have a pressure cooker bomb in my car but you don't KNOW it's a bomb.
Yet you don't know doesn't stop you taking the safer route.
Why?
Because your money isn't at risk. Your investments may be impacted if these chemicals are banned or limited until they can prove they're safe.
It's a corporate world. There are no countries or citizenship anymore, except if you work for a corporation; else you're little people. AC
CEOs' and their family can direct their cooks/assistants/restaurants to purchase/use only Non-GMO pesticide free foods... So with them running everything the common person is screwed and will be the ones who get more of the cancers...
So why should then not get a say? Why should their opinion be silenced, just because you don't agree with them?
If you hate free speech so much, go to China. But don't demand greenies not ask (never mind GET) anything they want.
If these chemicals were linked to breast cancer and female infertility, this never would've happened.
This is an example how TTIP already affect current laws in the EU. Keeping TTIP secret because there are "only" negotiations does not fly any more.
The good thing is we already have practical consequences before signing it, so we can still get out.
Up to now I have not heard any advantages for the EU, certainly none that would offset the huge disadvantages.
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As a citizen from one of the very few countries that was allowed to vote on the new EU constitution, my country voted against. Subsequently there where some minor changes to _ONLY_ the Dutch translation of the constitution, and then my government signed the unchanged constitution without a vote. Other EU members didn't need to sign the new constitution, because only the Dutch translation was changed, which wasn't binding anyway.
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Try hard enough to force this TTIP upon us, and the whole EU could fall apart, which would do the US more harm than the European countries.
Hello, US trade..I mean business delegation (see, nothing to do with the official US position) and the marketing departments of EU chemical giants! My wheelbarrowed testes are approaching into your general direction right about now. Perhaps I could find another way of moving with them, with some kind of bouncing action..
There's little a Joe can do to change any of this. It's just because the government I live under has been purchased and is owned by corporations (long before I was born). I buy the most organic produce & neither fund nor profit from any of these actions (and that's the way many people I know are going). But that road's a long one.
I want the EU or someone who hasn't been as bought to start standing-up to these corporations. They bring no profit to your nation, they drain resources, and they poison everything. You don't want to trade with them. If they're so hooked-in to the US that they block other goods, then let them. Maybe then it could be the American Citizens vs the corporations. But bending to their will hurts us all.
Science & open-source build trust from peer review. Learn systems you can trust.
800 bases worldwide, the first and the boots reach is long indeed!
What a bunch of weak-minded sellouts. I lost a lot of respect for the EU lawmaking process...
No sig for you! Come back one year!
This isn't news. Money and power drive our govt. You need only look at the current administration, senate and house of representatives.
You don't think the infamous Clinton cash scandal is an isolated and rare organized criminal incident, do you?!?
lolz
In response to the prediction that EU consumer and environmental protection would suffer because of TTIP, officials promised this would not happen. Of course without any argumentation or backing, and now we see the result. TTIP is already having an effect and it will get much worse when the agreement is enforced.
Thank you, Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and so many others, for courageously defending humanity, my freedom and more!
gotta do something to keep idle trade negotiators off the streets.
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
[quote]after a U.S. business delegation said they would adversely affect trade negotiations for the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership.[/quote]
Good. The citizens of the EU don't want that piece of shit anyway.
Same goes with the citizens of the Pacific nations and the TPP.
If you're a lobbyist/delegate/person who writes these bills that are only in favour of US interests/etc: kill yourself. Immediately. Preferably with a gun - after all, you love that second amendment.
Here we go again.
The bullies are back, they are not guilty again or will ever be.
You have to buy this medicine, it only kills 30% of your population.
You do know this is just a show & pony act.
This production is just for news, they say we had no choice.
They left us no choice it will cost the economy billions in trade.
So we have to poison the soil and the food just to please the US trade.
Are you really going to say or do nothing, more them likely your governments will not.
So to the farmers and consumers just say no, I am organic.
I will live longer this way, you can drink your poison.
THIS IS REALLY GOING TO GO WELL at the next elections with the already infuriated masses of Europeans that have seen their livelihood quality of life COLLAPSE since the demented, pork barrel laced and CORRUPT EUROPEAN "ONION" has consumed quality of life every where - not to speak about that metastasis of Euro....