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5G Is On Its Way, But Approaching Slowly
New submitter CarlottaHapsburg writes: Ericsson and Nokia are leading the pack when it comes to developing 5G, but there are some major complicating factors: flexible architecture, functioning key standards, the U.S.'s lethargy in expanding mmWave, and even the definition of what 5G is and can do. It'll get here, but not soon: "5G networks are widely expected to start to roll out by 2020, with a few early debuts at such global events as the 2018 Winter Olympics in South Korea. It is an ambitious deadline given what is expected from 5G -- no less than the disruption of the communications market in general, and telecom in particular, as well as related sectors such as test equipment." The FCC's Tom Wheeler says 5G is different for every manufacturer, like a Picasso painting. It should be an exciting five years of further developments and definitions — and, hopefully, American preparedness.
The bandwidth caps are so low that at 5G speeds you'd blow through your monthly allotment in seconds.
If the carriers want to impress anyone, then increase capacity enough that you can raise the caps or remove them entirely and offer unlimited wireless internet... at speeds you can handle.
5G? They're not really letting people enjoy 4G as it is.
And on top of that, you have google's announcement that they're going to be offering a Wifi cellphone that connects through the wifi when possible to make phone calls... where only cellular service even costs... ANYTHING. And they're contracting with all the cell phone carriers to provide coverage.
YEARLY fees for some people might drop as low as 5 dollars per YEAR under a system like that.
Now... you like your wireless internet? But how much do you like it? First off, you can't buy most smartphones from most carriers unless you have a data plan. They literally won't let you connect unless you sign up for data as well. And for those that say "well that's just because the data plan pays for the reduced price you paid for the phone."... Nope. Because they won't even let you bring your own phone or buy the phone outright and then not have the data plan. They don't care. You have a smartphone? You must have data.
I've currently got my MONTHLY cell phone bill down to about 8 dollars per month. The price of that was that I do not have data on my phone. Which you would think sucks, only people don't appreciate how ubiquitous free wifi is everywhere. When I want data, I turn on my wifi and connect to any number of free wifi hotspots that are everywhere. The only place it could suck would be on the road but my actual needs to connect to the internet on the freeway are pretty limited. I use a map program on my phone that stores the maps in internal memory. And I have plenty of space left over for music, movies, and games.
Don't get me wrong... internet would be nice... but what am I willing to pay for it? 20 dollars a month? Literally tripling my monthly rate... for that? No. I don't care that much.
I like paying 8 bucks a month. And I look forward to paying 5 bucks a year.
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Why are they already promising us 5G? Wouldn't it be a good idea to actually work on roll out of a real 4G standard first? No, not the abomination that they are calling 4G now! I mean an offering that is real 4G according to the standard.
The FCC's Tom Wheeler says 5G is different for every manufacturer, like a Picasso painting.
I hope you liked vendor-locked phones before...
My phone supports LTE. Well, when in Europe, anyways. I could by a US phone to have LTE here, but then I wouldn't have LTE in Europe.
That sucks, and I would really like for it to stop. Whatever "5G" ends up being, make it the same across the globe, so that I know that if I have a "5G" capable phone and am anywhere in the world using a provider offering "5G", I actually get "5G".
Pretty please.
Can we please just get 4G in the US before we start talking about 5G? This 3.5G stuff is for the birds.
Just tell me how fast it is -- give me the stationary and moving data rates. With every other marketable metric I can think of, there's at least some idea of what to expect (DPI, storage capacity, home internet service speed, etc.)
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I already have a 5s, and that works pretty good.
...there's nothing new here.
"5G networks are widely expected to start to roll out by 2020, with a few early debuts at such global events as the 2018 Winter Olympics"
Which means that there won't be consumer equipment able to use it in 2018. What's the point?
"The FCC's Tom Wheeler says 5G is different for every manufacturer"
Facepalm. Hell, double facepalm.
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
Aren't these the two Android holdouts? Who uses these things?
P-cell looks like an interesting way to get almost unlimited usage of the airwaves.
When you're apping apps with the AIDE app, 5G helps you get your app up to version control and your QA crew faster.
Faster apps!
Battery life and wider coverage are more important (to me) than higher bandwidth.
that's like those people that go to football games and then bring a little TV with them so they can sit AT THE GAME and watch the game on a tiny portable tv.
It depends on what kind of football you're talking about. For a stop-and-go sport like baseball or gridiron football, it's helpful to look up and watch the game in real time, and then look down and watch the last play repeated from different angles. But I'll grant that it's not so helpful for a continuous sport like soccer or all but the last two minutes of a basketball game.
They're not calling it 4G; they're calling it 4G Lite. Unfortunately, the announcer keeps forgetting the i.
It's fast, I get unlimited bandwidth (when I'm not tethering). I download high def movies with it.
Since we just got 4G LTE in the US and it's awesome enough, I don't expect to see a 5g rollout for decades.
the wikipedia article makes it clear that 5g is pure vaporware. It's not even a specific technology it's the expectation that new technologies will be invented.
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Yep. "Real" 4G was supposed to provide mobile download speeds up to 100 Mb/sec, and none of the US cellular providers have come close to actually providing that speed.
So far, not a single company in the continental United States is running the real 4G at all. Everything is some mis-labelled bastardized inbred spawn of 3G.
So what will they "brand" as 5G? some inbred 4g/3g demon spawn?
I don't know if they have the authority, but the FCC should mandate carrier level interoperability.
Higher data speeds require more spectrum. Many people have to share a single piece of spectrum. Where is this extra spectrum going to come from?
Can we please just get 4G in the US before we start talking about 5G? This 3.5G stuff is for the birds.
Even more importantly, can we get 4G (and by 4G I mean the real 4G according to the spec) or 5G before countries like Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea, and Tajikistan do? Can we? Please? It is just plain galling that in America I have to live with a telecommunications infrastructure that third world countries now consider obsolete.
Is no one concerned about the effects on human health of these ever increasingly high powered networks?
Maybe I'm paranoid, but since the WHO has declared even non-ionizing radiation as a "possible human carcinogen" how sure are we that widespread deployment of more RF wont result in increased occurrences of cancers in future years (specifically mmWave which pushes the envelop to more powerful energies on the radio spectrum). I just don't want to see this turn out to be like tobacco or asbestos, where the public was lead to believe it was harmless to years later find out how cancer-causing it is.