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Librarians As the First Line of Privacy Defense

The Guardian features a look at the influence of librarians in the evolving fight for various of the liberties that here on Slashdot we group together as Your Rights Online. The article points out that the evolution of libraries from book repositiories to more general centers for information technology means that librarians have been pressured in many small ways to give up their patrons' privacy, and have (at least often) successfully resisted that pressure, including some from the NSA. A small slice: The first politician to discover the danger of underestimating what happens when you have thousands of librarians on your case was attorney general John Ashcroft who, in 2003, accused the American Library Association of “baseless hysteria” and ridiculed their protests against the Patriot Act. ... US libraries were once protected from blanket requests for records of what their patrons were reading or viewing online, but the legislation rushed through after after 9/11 threatened to wreck this tradition of confidentiality in ways that presaged later discoveries of bulk telephone and internet record collection."

51 comments

  1. API by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The congress will soon create a copyrighted API to interact with libraries that will closd all those bugs that allow terrorists to have privacy.

  2. Librarians know that knowledge is power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And half the battle is knowing.

    1. Re:Librarians know that knowledge is power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless they have the anarchist's cookbook they are a bunch of hypocrites. Yeah that book suck, it's a symbol. Deal with it.

    2. Re:Librarians know that knowledge is power by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Knowing is half the battle. The other half is split in two.

    3. Re: Librarians know that knowledge is power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Half of know all of us are being watched, all the time.

    4. Re:Librarians know that knowledge is power by hey! · · Score: 1

      Why would anyone need or want hard copy of such a thing, except if they're posing?

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    5. Re:Librarians know that knowledge is power by bmo · · Score: 1

      The old mimeographed copies are collector's items, and most of the ones online have been "edited" like a game of telephone.

      That said, if you take any of the content seriously and try the things in it, Uncle Darwin will greet you with open arms. The FBI's investigation into the document said as much.

      In that light, I think possession of the Cookbook should make you /not/ a target of investigation as "the 'problem' will solve itself sooner or later."

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    6. Re:Librarians know that knowledge is power by sjames · · Score: 1

      You can read it online at the library or print a copy. If, for some reason, the feds come snooping around to find out who saw it, they will not say.

    7. Re:Librarians know that knowledge is power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I said it was a symbol. Fucktard.

    8. Re:Librarians know that knowledge is power by hey! · · Score: 1

      Apparently you are under the impression that symbols can only be physical objects.

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  3. More on the Connecticut Four by Dupple · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is from about a month ago

    http://www.thenation.com/artic...

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  4. We're fucked by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My local librarians don't even understand why you wouldn't want them keeping a record of who used the computer and when. Some librarians may understand privacy, but most of them are completely clueless about technology.

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    1. Re:We're fucked by drhamad · · Score: 2

      That's true, many are not good with technology. But they don't have to be. Their tech services departments push out certain systems that they use. Most libraries don't maintain client records, for instance, because of this. Actually really annoying from a usability standpoint, but good from a privacy one.

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    2. Re:We're fucked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Some librarians may understand privacy, but most of them are completely clueless about technology.

      It depends. I'm the primary systems admin for an academic library on a very large university campus, and in many cases our librarians are at the vanguard of pointing out privacy issues as they relate to technology. They're not DevOps ninjas backflipping over Happy Hacking keyboards while coding in the night, but they know what's up.

    3. Re:We're fucked by Udom · · Score: 2

      My library enables third parties to access users' computers by piggy backing on the library connection, and the search string is included in the url of accessed pages. One of those sharing the connection is google analytics, which can then link the search terms with the IP. At the same time Google drops tracking cookies. The library sees nothing wrong with this arrangement.

    4. Re: We're fucked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here in germany they are by law required to provide authorities the record of what you borrowed. A bunch of crypto communist cocksuckers, all of them. And yeah, communism likes pervasive MIND CONTROL.

    5. Re: We're fucked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please elaborate about the datalink to nsa. At least here in germany they have this.

      Also they do the governments bidding against whoever speaks out the truth. Even if they dont personally know the person they harass. Hearsay from some cia type suffices. Happened in herrenberg and bÃblingen.

        WICKED EVIL OF SPARTA. Traitors to germanic freedom and values.

  5. So whats the second line of defence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So whats the second line of defence?
    Scorpians? Sagitarians? Arians? Taurans?

    1. Re:So whats the second line of defence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There is no need for a second line when the first has Conan the Librarian.

  6. who is getting their information from a library? by Karmashock · · Score: 1

    I mean, I am sure the university libraries are busy but in the 21st century the vast majority of information isn't flowing through them. So how do they protect me?

    It isn't going to work. What we have to do is anonymize our traffic. Do that and most of their crap won't work.

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  7. Repositiories? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    repository

  8. Re: who is getting their information from a librar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    University librarians are increasingly guardians of copyright - not distributors of knowledge. Increasingly their resources are digital - the curatorship is done by whoever they outsourced their collection management to. Better they close down entirely than pretend to be something thhey are not.

  9. Holden Caulfield; even before the webz by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Since The Catcher in the Rye gained cult like status after being referenced by several shooters in infamous assassinations,

    it was always rumored to be on that list of books the government kept track of at public libraries.

    Though it's been referenced in popular culture (conspiracy movies and novels) several times, it's curious but perhaps unproven.

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  10. Ook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Ook!

    1. Re:Ook! by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Decrement the memory cell under the pointer.

  11. Defcon 5!!! by mariox19 · · Score: 1

    What this tells me is that libraries are hothouses for terrorism. Shut 'em down! Shut them down, now!

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    1. Re:Defcon 5!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But so many 1%ers are published there. Once we have set them up with a new revenue stream, we will shutter the libraries once and for all.

  12. Practicing librarian here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Offering my two cents.

    It's true that libraries operating in this century are faced with the grim spectre of obsolescence. With the advent of the Internet and the ubiquity of computers, tablets, and smartphones, most people have a wealth of information at their fingertips that dwarfs anything to be found among the physical holdings of your local library.

    However, this is beside the point.

    Libraries offer more than a given collection of information. They offer the principles of universal access, privacy, and the freedom of ideas, all of which seem to have fallen by the wayside in modern times. The American Library Association maintains an Office for Intellectual Freedom specifically dedicated to teaching ethics, supporting privacy and confidentiality, and fighting censorship. Your library is one of the few organizations today that is actively looking out for your best interests and those of your fellow citizens, and asks for virtually nothing in return, save for a few tax dollars to keep the lights on. When you think about all the other stuff your taxes will be used for--including the NSA's continued efforts to spy on you--I believe that's a more than fair trade.

    In his interview with John Oliver, Edward Snowden said that by conducting surveillance on Americans, the NSA is effectively holding a gun to your head and asking you to trust that they won't pull the trigger (unless you give them a reason).

    Your library is asking the NSA to put down the gun.

    1. Re:Practicing librarian here by bmo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      >obsolescence of libraries

      Last century, people were foretelling the future and saying that the Internet was going to be the death of brick-and-mortar retail stores.

      I went to buy some suits a month ago. I didn't buy them online, because honestly, my sense of style is nonexistent. You might even call it a negative value. I was lamenting that I was too far away from my favorite store and I didn't know of who to go to, and I was tipped off to a place in Manchester NH (I'm in Concord). In short order, they got me what I needed, and I looked just spiffy according to my fiance.

      Online, I would have spent weeks looking and eventually might have found something that looks nice on a hangar, but probably makes me look goofy.

      Likewise libraries. Most people going into libraries are looking for specific information and they're fuzzy about where to look. Librarians offer the same level of personal service that the above retailer offered. Librarians are more than just nerdy stock-keepers and book hoarders.

      Add on to this that libraries are also meatspace social gathering places if you check out the bulletin boards at the entrances.

      Because of this, libraries aren't going away any time soon.

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    2. Re:Practicing librarian here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because of this, libraries aren't going away any time soon.

      I love libraries, but the practising librarian was right. You are too, but I feel you're missing a few things... chief of which is that very few people are going into a library looking for help figuring stuff out now. It's very, very sad -- they are basically communal spaces, and half the time it's now teens and kids wanting a place with air conditioning to use the free tablets for facebook or blasting music without headphones. The librarian knows this because they can see how many people come in and check out books, while their fixed costs stay the same or rise.

      Yes, libraries will stay around for a long time, but they are in a slow crisis of figuring out where they fit now. Most are looking at it as "access to knowledge," so having free wifi and computers you can use. Which is entirely valid, but do you need a $20million dollar building and book collection to provide free wifi inside it?

    3. Re:Practicing librarian here by WillAdams · · Score: 1

      Libraries will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no libraries.
      —Anne Herbert (writer)

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    4. Re:Practicing librarian here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's nice being able to get DVDs from the library rather than paying all that money to buy them to watch them once. Anime, movies, etc.

      As for books. I don't really have a good answer other than it's nice having that option (to hold paper in your hands) even if digital versions are offered for checkout.

  13. Libraries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've been in a fight with my local library for about 6 months, this after I noticed that multiple business were connecting to my machine while I search for books. One of those connections sent data to a government Piwik database. I managed to get them to improve things somewhat, but they're still using google-analytics and the pages still have the search string in the url, enabling Google to record which books each connecting IP is searching for. In the process, Google also drops tracking cookies. My last resort will be to go public.

  14. So old an issue... but nip it in the bud. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After 9/11, FBI announced that it would (without any Constitutional or Congressional authorization) demand records from local libraries. Records about who checked out which books, when.

    The head of our local library board (who I don't mind saying is a bit of a heroine of mine) said: "We have no choice? FINE. We'll stop keeping records!"

    And they did.

    The only records they keep now are currently-checked-out books, which realistically they have to do. In addition to that, they keep records of overdue books. ONLY until the overdue is paid, then EVERYTHING is deleted and you're back to zero.

    It was my local library's "Fuck You" to the Federal government. And they made it stick.

    1. Re:So old an issue... but nip it in the bud. by drhamad · · Score: 2

      Yep, that's what almost every library does, and for that very reason.

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    2. Re:So old an issue... but nip it in the bud. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So? Can't "the man" just request the list of currently checked out books once a week? It should be sufficient to automatically reconstruct the vast majority of lending metadata.. Seems likely the FBI doesn't really care all that much (there's probably an just A.D somewhere that has this book malarkey on his yearly performance pay evaluation).

    3. Re:So old an issue... but nip it in the bud. by hey! · · Score: 2

      I'd send them hard copy printouts in 6 pt type on anti-copy security paper. It's perfectly legible, even in a photocopy, but a pain to OCR.

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    4. Re:So old an issue... but nip it in the bud. by anyGould · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So? Can't "the man" just request the list of currently checked out books once a week? It should be sufficient to automatically reconstruct the vast majority of lending metadata.. Seems likely the FBI doesn't really care all that much (there's probably an just A.D somewhere that has this book malarkey on his yearly performance pay evaluation).

      They could, but then the equation changes from "I need to know about Bob, go get his lending history from the library" to "I need to do a bunch of paperwork every week, get all the information on everyone, and then store it, in case I someday need to look up Bob (or Sue, or Mike)".

      It's the extra layer of hassle that makes all the difference. If Bob suddenly becomes interesting, then they're only going to get his current checked out books. If they want that massive database, they have to be constantly filing paperwork.

    5. Re:So old an issue... but nip it in the bud. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      Yep, that's what almost every library does, and for that very reason.

      Back then, it wasn't a common practice. It was a pretty radical idea. The city even had a meeting to discuss dismissing her.

  15. National Security Letters by Lennie · · Score: 4, Informative

    Librarians where also among the first to fight the National Security Letters:

    http://media.ccc.de/browse/con...

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  16. John Ashcroft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Haven't thought about that peice of shit for a while... what an asshole.

  17. Hushlands by Cigaes · · Score: 1

    The Librarians already control the Hushlands. Sleep well.

  18. Or so they say by PPH · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Back when the American Library Association was supposedly standing up to Ashcroft and his ilk, my library card mysteriously expired. The one that I applied for decades ago, just by filling out a little card. No problem, they told me. Just apply for another. It will only take a few minutes. And please show some form of government-issued picture ID.

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    1. Re:Or so they say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The requirement for official photo ID serves two purposes:

      1) It establishes your city/state of residency, for the purposes of determining whether you are actually entitled to the public service. The vast majority of public libraries are funded by local municipal property taxes and fees. The address on your drivers license or other acceptable official photo ID demonstrates that you are such tax/fee payer, and are thus entitled to the service. Some libraries might choose to extend their services further (many California public libraries, for instance, participate in a Universal Borrowing Agreement, extending their services to the users of other participating libraries in the state), and the address on your ID is utilized for determining your eligibility in this case as well.

      2) It provides a means of finding you for the purposes of collecting/repossessing materials that are not returned in accordance with established lending policy. Without the ability to tie active borrowing to an established and track-able identity, anyone can "borrow" materials and never return them. The consequence to services like the public library is obvious. Please note that this applies only to materials that are actually checked-out from the library; once the item(s) are returned and your financial obligation is lifted, any records that you ever checked anything out can be (**and should be**) immediately destroyed.

      (I am an employee of a public library, and an advocate for my patrons' privacy and freedoms of expression, assembly, and to be forgotten.)

    2. Re: Or so they say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come to think of it, theres an even more important reason we ask for official photo ID:

      3) To make sure the guy standing in front of me wanting to check out potentially hundreds of dollars worth of materials in your name is really you. This protects your identity, your credit, your reputation, and your privacy.

      You're welcome.

    3. Re:Or so they say by PPH · · Score: 1

      So all was well with my library card since the mid 1980's until around 2004. And then the library decides it needs a link to an official ID at the same time the DoJ/FBI/CIA comes asking for records.

      Yeah, right.

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    4. Re: Or so they say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they could make a paper copy and physically file this instead of entering it into some insecure as hell computer system.

  19. Ex Library worker here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I used to be the IT Manager of our local library, and literally 2 weeks into my new job there, I got a call from the Secret Service. Apparently, someone went onto one of our computers, went onto a forum, and made threats to Obama. They wanted all our records, and everything. So, I went to my boss and the Executive Director about it, and they told me "If they don't have a warrant, they don't get shit".

    I tell that to the Secret Services, and never heard from them again.

    1. Re:Ex Library worker here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is fucking awesome! Gotta thank people like you when I get the chance. There are so many brain dead zombies surrounding us all.

  20. does your librarian understand how databases work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because most libraries buy an off the shelf black box for a huge amount of money and they have no idea what info is kept and what is truly deleted. its closed source proprietary and expensive

  21. No surprise by Evtim · · Score: 1

    As we know from respectable source, there is no higher life-form in the multi-verse than a librarian. That's why Horace Woblehat is not very keen on being turned back into man. Ook?