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Amazon Hiring Devs For Its First PC Game

An anonymous reader writes: Several outlets are reporting that Amazon is preparing to dip its toes in yet another market: PC video games. They're specifically hiring for this purpose now, though they seem to have had plans for some time: "In addition to acquiring Killer Instinct developer Double Helix last year, Amazon has also hired notable developers like Kim Swift, designer of Portal, as well as Clint Hocking, who previously worked on franchises like Far Cry and Splinter Cell. Meanwhile, according to a report from Kotaku, Amazon has spent a lot of cash licensing the CryEngine, the same one used to make high-end PC games like Crysis 3. Outside of development, Amazon also acquired game streaming service Twitch last August for $970 million, and made gaming a big focus for its Fire TV media box."

46 comments

  1. EA again? by Kormoran · · Score: 1

    Big business can't create art... my bet is against it

    1. Re:EA again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Their original series are good, why shouldn't a game be?

    2. Re:EA again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's going to be fun. Achieve world domination by controlling a drone force and wiping out a vast enemy army of big boxes and mom-and-pop stores.

    3. Re:EA again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Big business can't create art... my bet is against it"

      Sorry to tell you but the big companies while not perfect are still leagues ahead of 90% of indie game developers, I'd consider need for speed most wanted (2005), and the origina NFS Undergound and underground 2 fantastic games. To say big companies release only shit is a bald faced lie, call of duty 4 and the early battlefields were activision and EA games.

      The highest rated games are still from big companies are developers that have ties to the big boys.

    4. Re:EA again? by Osgeld · · Score: 2

      they dont have to create art, they have to create something that sells like reality tv and big mac's

      art is not even a consideration

    5. Re:EA again? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      Big business can't create it, but they CAN finance it, which is a necessary part of videogame development. And the financiers can be valuable partners in the process, so long as they're willing to mostly get out of the way and let the creative people do their thing. Microsoft, as one example, has been historically poor at this. Let's face it, everyone both wants to be and thinks they can be a game designer. Many videogames die a lingering death because of idiots from management sticking their fingers in the game design pie. I've also seen the opposite, where our team was given incredible support from the higher-ups with minimal interference, and their faith was ultimately rewarded with best-selling games and excellent reviews.

      Not all bad games are because of management, of course, but they've seemed to be a significant factor in a few of the games I've worked on that have gotten into trouble.

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    6. Re:EA again? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Throw in a bit of resource management - moving your stash around to avoid the evil gold-gobbling monsters called Ayaress and Aransee.

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    7. Re:EA again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MS managed a few decent games in various genres. Amazon's hired some names (even if they are bordering on the 'what have you done lately' side) and they've obviously got the money to support a proper development cycle without kicking the baby out to make next quarter's profits. On the other hand I do wonder if someone sold them a 'this is going to revolutionise gaming' project ("its a MMORPG with MOBA elements and procedural generation!"). So all in all I'm not holding my breath but I won't write them off just yet.

  2. Yes! by pushing-robot · · Score: 1

    Finally, the video game adaptation of Foodfight!

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    1. Re:Yes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Finally, the video game adaptation of Foodfight!

      I thought they'd already done that

  3. My prediction by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    It will suck big time.

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  4. Dear, SLASHDORT READER by Greyfox · · Score: 0

    I couldn't help but noticed you were unemployed. AMAZON.COM is hiring, GAME DEVELOPERS, right now! Of course, if you wanted to obtain a fine job at a company like, AMAZON.COM, you COULD TRY a job listing board like the one at dice.com! It has plenty of jobs that would fit perfectly for a, SLASHDORT READER, like yourself!

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    1. Re:Dear, SLASHDORT READER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More than likely those designers they hired will have a short list of folks they want. I would be real surprised if they did post positions on Dice or any other job board.

      My company hasn't used a job board since the 90s. These days HR sends out an email to everyone and in about two weeks, there's a new person. That's why when companies bitch about not being able to find people, we scratch our heads.

  5. I'm excited by Karmashock · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Amazon is not EA. Their attitudes are different and their profoilo is a pretty diversified at this point.

    Will the game be any good? I have no idea. But I'm excited to see new money come into the market and try things.

    Frankly, I like games more than I like movies or tv shows. My music collection hasn't changed much further in the last 10 years. I've hit that age.

    And that means if you want to sell me content, you have to target me. And game... I likes them.

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    1. Re:I'm excited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, they are like EA in how they treat their employees.

      And you didn't hit 'that age', you hit that mindset.

    2. Re:I'm excited by Karmashock · · Score: 1, Informative

      harumph... First what is your problem with the way they treat their employees? That the warehouse employees aren't unionized? Is that it? Because most of the "they treat their employees badly" stuff these days is little more than poorly disguised agitation on the part of organized labor.

      Second, I don't even know where you listen to new music anymore. I used to get new music off the radio or MTV or I'd pick something up in a CD shop that looked interesting. Today... I have no idea. what... spotify and pandora? I tell them what I like and they just play stuff from my generation. So I don't get exposed to anything new. What do you want me to type into the fucking thing?

      I don't know where you get off presuming to judge me actually... who the fuck do you think you are? You think you're going to listen to the newest thing for your whole life?

      First off, music is increasingly a less important part of my life. It bores me. Movies increasingly bore me as well. I see a couple blockbusters a year and that's it. The rest is tiresome. I enjoy a few of the good cable/streaming shows. I enjoy house of cards, game of thrones, etc. But really when it comes to my personal entertainment... I like games. And I like specific kinds and it is in my interest as a consumer of games to have as many people pumping money into the industry as possible. Amazon wants to pump money in? Good. We'll see what comes of it.

      Oh and go fuck yourself with a rake. :D

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    3. Re:I'm excited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Wow, that hit a nerve huh? Let's see...

      First, go google how they treat their office employees. Not the warehouse ones, the white collar jobs. They are very much like EA in the demands of hours and work, at the expense of 'life' (family, social, etc.)

      Second, judge you? How was that judging? You yourself implied that the reason your music collection hasn't changed in years is because of the age you reached. I was saying that there is no such thing. There is no magical age you reach that you suddenly stop looking for new music, there is however a mindset that will lead you to stopping. Hell, I didn't even make a judgement on the mindset, I just refuted your assertion that anything was age-based.

      You're comfortable and that's fine, though obviously not that comfortable given your complete meltdown, but that is a choice by you, and nothing to do with age.

      Let me say it again, since you seem to have trouble with comprehension: _You_ said not changing your music collection has something to do with age. I said it isn't age based. It's a mentality. If you wanted to go search for new music, you could. You choose not to; you didn't simply have a birthday and something in your DNA prevented you from finding/enjoying anything new.

      Was that clear enough for you, or should I get out the finger-paints?

      Your (over)reaction was amusing though, thanks for that.

    4. Re:I'm excited by Karmashock · · Score: 0

      Call someone something without any evidence and you're going to get called on it.

      what kind of world do we live in where little shitheads like you think you can just do that?

      You want to make an accusation against Amazon? Cite a link.

      Let us see your evidence. Asking me to do your work for you is typical. Its just more of the same intellectually lazy bullshit.

      As to judging, I cited the exact place where you did it. I can't be more clear than that.

      As to reactions and over reactions... Specious bullshit deserves to get its head caved in with a sledgehammer.

      It isn't an over reaction. You make a claim? You back that shit up.

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  6. I'm guessing free to play by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    that's not necessarily a bad thing. Think Hawken, Hearthstone & LOL. But there isn't much money in AAA titles unless you're an established franchise and there isn't squat in the indies.

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  7. Why do they want to be like Valve/Steam? by RubberDogBone · · Score: 2

    I get why Amazon wants to/has to make their own video content: People expect it these days and they have to compete with Netflix and HBO. But in gaming, there are already a ton of publishers and a ton more developers in all shapes and sizes and for all markets and kinds of games.

    It is a great time to be a PC gamer. There's so much choice. If you don't think there is, try playing something new instead of the same old things.

    Anyway, there are a lot of people making games. Some great, some good, some bad. What is Amazon going to bring to this that isn't already being done? It's not like the video service where they have to meet expectations, and it's not an unmet need since there already are tons of games.

    Amazon is hiring some heavy hitters and spending A-level cash on game engines. This says they intend to bring out an epic franchise brand, which means they will have to spend a LOT on making it, and take years, and after all the work, maybe people won't want to play it. Most games end up like that, especially the big, grand, spendy grand attempts. Very few of those command lasting presence. So they're basically betting a lot on what will probably be ONE title and the odds are it won't be huge hit. Maybe a moderate hit. Why do this? Why take on that financial risk when there are plenty of existing companies and people who already do that?

    Amazon already sells their games, and now they have Twitch to show them off too. Amazon doesn't need to make content in this space.
     

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    1. Re: Why do they want to be like Valve/Steam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's profitable, and they are a business, dipshit.

    2. Re:Why do they want to be like Valve/Steam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because other publishers and developers are not the All Seeing, All Smelling, All Shitting, The One, The Only, Jeff Bezos.

      Bezos can do no wrong. He was born a poor black child in the slums of Beverly Hills by God.

      [More rhetoric and horseshit goes here]

  8. Command a warehouse robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Due to the lack of sufficiently advanced image recognition software Amazon is going to employ gamers to identify shelf items.

  9. Nobody makes money on games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hardly anyone makes money these days on games. Amazon has had another brainstorm that will end up losing money big time. I suspect they hope to do something like Steam eventually through its Prime services. Unfortunately, like much of everything Amazon does, it tends to lose money not make money.
    People will eventually realize that Amazon is much like Walmart was early on. A retail business bent on providing consumers with low prices and good service.
    But somewhere along the line it got out of control and while it makes for good chit chat to talk about drones delivering packages and eliminating more and more human labor and moving to robots. Eventually this will all be a negative to people who now know people who were negatively affected by Amazon's obsession with eliminating jobs. I guarantee you Amazon will not pay a handsome price for gaming developers.

  10. Got some star power by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    Now its time to hire even more H1B's!

    1. Re:Got some star power by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 5, Interesting

      From what I've seen, there seem to be very few H1Bs in the videogame industry. It's also been surprisingly resilient to outsourcing as well. It could have something to do with both the high degree of technical specialization required, as well as the close coordination required with artists, game designers, sound designers, composers, and QA, meaning that videogame programmers have to be pretty good about working and communicating with non-technical developers / team members. A lot of software development is mostly about writing code, but creating a game requires a very diverse team to work very closely together and iterate quickly on new ideas and concepts.

      I know one game development colleague who went to Amazon not too long ago. Maybe I'll meet up with him for lunch one of these days and see how he's enjoying things there. Amazon strikes me as a Microsoft-type developer, and that doesn't bode well for their first offering (for example, the first Kindle was hideously designed). They tend to get things right on their second or even third go-round though. I'll be curious to see what they can do... they certainly have the financial backing to do something quite impressive, but money alone won't make a great game. Just ask Curt Shilling.

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    2. Re:Got some star power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      H1B has low representation in gaming because it is the one software-development labor market in which Americans are already worked harder than, and paid less than, H1Bs. Also, H1B holders are generally smart enough to take one look at the industry and bolt, unlike fresh-out-of-college American kids with gaming addictions.

  11. Bezos is a control freak by Spy+Handler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    who used to dictate the placement of every pixel on Amazon website, according to Steve Yegge.

    Fire smartphone had 3-D features that required immense processing power (which meant sacrificing battery life and other things) and therefore written off by the engineers as being not practical. But Bezos was in love with the features and he basically said the phone ships with 3-D or you're all fired.

    I can't see the Amazon game ending well.

    1. Re: Bezos is a control freak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the Amazon website has done so poorly.. Right, fuckwad?

    2. Re: Bezos is a control freak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the Fire has done so well.. Right fuckwad?

    3. Re:Bezos is a control freak by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      what you mean with 3d features that require immense power?

      opengl support and a gpu like any 100 bucks phone on the market now?

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    4. Re:Bezos is a control freak by Spy+Handler · · Score: 1

      The 3D feature was called "dynamic perspective". The heavy battery drain was not actually from the gpu processing/rendering, it was because the feature needed 4 separate cameras (one on each corner of the phone) that had its own access to the facial recognition software.

      Interesting read: http://www.fastcompany.com/303...

  12. Devs to program their warehouse bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is just cover for their warehouse bot dev recruitment program. Only problem is that their warehouse bots might end up competing with each other for survival in the Amazon Warehouse Wars.

  13. Really Amazon by eclectro · · Score: 0

    Spend the dime and fix the Kindle for Android app first. Many people can't get it to work *at all*.

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  14. PC Games by tomhath · · Score: 1

    Why does everything have to be Politically Correct these days? Just make the game fun to play.

    1. Re:PC Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because PC is politically correct term for Windows

  15. Depends on the Focus.... by Immostlyharmless · · Score: 1

    If Amazon hires the good talent, let's them do what they need to do, great things could come out of this. As long as they aren't Yahoo-ing it. I remember back when Yahoo purchased All Seeing Eye, and then they ignored it and let it languish. So sad, with some focused effort a lot of the properties that Yahoo picked up could have flourished, instead they stagnated and died. Hopefully Amazon won't go too far either way and picks the sweet spot right in the middle where they are going to hire talented people and then let them do talented things.

  16. So what's the title? by St.Creed · · Score: 1

    My guess: Attack of the Drones.

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  17. Bullshit by goldcd · · Score: 1

    Ubisoft, who are right up there with EA released Valiant Hearts, which from editorial seems to have been borne from a desire of their internal "drones"
    MS and Sony have both released a plethora of great Indie stuff on their platforms
    The PC's renaissance is leading the pack mind - but I've never in my life had so many great and different games exposed to me as a have today.

    Maybe "big business" can't create art - but it can certainly provide an environment in which it can flourish, and hand over a percentage of sales.

    I'm sure we can argue over the details - but gaming is getting more commercial by the year, and I've never had games so good.

  18. Re:First by davester666 · · Score: 1

    Yes. Yes you are.

    Now go put your helmet back on and play in your room.

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  19. If they also release to console by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    then it's not a PC game.

  20. And here's the proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It isn't an over reaction. You make a claim? You back that shit up."

    Hi, shiftless here.....410350. I don't know the person you are arguing with. From your comments, you are clearly an insecure little bitch. That's why you reacted so defensively and hatefully.

    You need to work on that.

    captcha: impudent

    1. Re:And here's the proof by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      yawn... did you have a credible claim against amazon or just further proof that AC's shouldn't be able to post due to statistically low IQ?

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