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Open Source Hardware Pioneer Ladyada Interviews the New MakerBot CEO
ptorrone writes: Open source hardware pioneer and founder of Adafruit Limor "Ladyada" Fried sat down and interviewed the new CEO of MakerBot, Jonathan Jaglom. She asked some really tough questions had some suggestions for them, too, if they're going to turn things around. Discussed: Is there a desire for MakerBot to patch things up with the open source community? Jaglom wants to assure the 3D-printing community there are not any plans for filament DRM, and it was nice to hear him say "patents are not the way to win." Lastly, Fried suggested the open-sourcing of some specific elements of the MakerBot to get back to its open-source hardware roots.
I don't gave time to watch the entire interview. All I want to know is if the new CEO was asked about the Makerbot association with a known felon and how that has been received by the community. If so can anyone please post a time code?
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
What a joke. It's a paraphrased interview with some of the most shallow questions ever. No video, no transcript. Reads like a press release. Please, just make it stop.
I know the NY hipsters are all buddies, so I was expecting no criticism for Makerbot from Adafruit, but I would at least have hoped for some substance in the interview. No chance. Also, what's all the patent pool stuff about? OSHW companies seem to have an extremely loose definition of Open-Source, and Adafruit is no exception. In my opinion, if you open-source your hardware, this shouldn't just mean providing schematics, but also means that you are not to patent the design. Or at least give an irrevocable licence to anyone, for free. Open-Source software has come to the point where this is absolutely clear to everyone involved, but OSHW seems to be a fancy label more than anything. And Adafruit, as the new OSHW poster-child (after Makerbot lost qualification for this position), should know this and promote liberty instead of applying for patents, promoting lock-in to proprietary systems etc.
Businesses rely on one of 3 things:
1. Lack of competition/Superior product
2. Price
3. Customer satisfaction
The 3d printer market may suffer from a bit of #3, but there is no end to the competition, and superior models come out regularly.* Price? Everything else is cheaper, except their now parent company.
(Well, new feature wise anyway, it's still hard to beat a properly tuned Mendel Prusa.)
Makerbot is not in a good way.
There are a lot of unjustified "misogynist!" cries about the tech industry environment, but dude, that right there is why we have to deal with the problem and can not just say they're imagining it. FOAD.
When will Dice realize that all of the videos they keep shoving on us here are unwanted? Each and every story with these goddamn videos ends up with more comments from people saying they don't want videos than there are comments about whatever the video is about.
Nobody came to Slashdot for videos between 1997 and 2014. Now that it's 2015, why the fuck would they think that people come here for videos all of a sudden?
Look, we aren't business executives. We don't sit in our offices all day watching webcasts and reading whitepapers. I know that's the type of people that Dice usually targets, but you don't find them here. We're the fuckers in the trenches, fixing Linux servers that broke due to systemd, and dealing with DDoS attacks against our fragile, underfunded network infrastructure. We don't have time for shitty videos.
The videos are like the Slashdot Beta site: they're totally unwanted. Did Dice not learn anything from the Beta failure? Did they not learn that when an idea is so soundly rejected, that it should be thrown out? The videos need to go! Nobody wants them!
I would love their business to serve as a cautionary tale to anyone who thinks it is cute to be excessively transparent about exploiting the open source hardware community. "Intellectual Property Harvesting"? Fucking seriously? Fuck Makerbot. The new ceo was hired to piss on us and tell us it's raining. The old CEO was honest enough to admit it was urine and openly mock people who were stupid enough to drink that shit up.
That AC's comment was just as negative toward men as it was toward women. In fact, it was more negative toward men. I see numerous men mentioned (the male "rubes" buying electronic doodads and the "dude parasite"), but only one woman (the "useless chick") mentioned. If anything, that comment is misandrist, not misogynic. More accurately, it's misanthropic, since it expresses dislike for humans in general.
Dice sucks my nuts. Whoooooo
Rube isn't gender specific. "Useless dude parasite" is harsh, but essentially just a subjective character assessment. The only person who is disparaged in an objectively unjustifiable way is Limor Fried, who is not an "engineer" as in that comment, but an actual engineer. She has a bachelor of science and a master of engineering in electrical engineering and computer science.
My point is that the term "engineer" is tossed around far too loosely today, and most engineers do what technicians did 20 years ago. And not because the jobs got harder, but because the universities flood the markets and simplify the content of the classes.
The term engineer may be used loosely today, but in this case it isn't. She is as much an engineer as her male colleagues and has the degrees to prove it. Just because you think "women come in at the end, get all the knowledge handed to them, and then they try to tell us how technical and geeky they are" doesn't mean you get to insult her by debasing her academic and professional achievements. As I said, FOAD.
Is there a desire for MakerBot to patch things up with the open source community? Jaglom wants to assure the 3D-printing community there are not any plans for filament DRM, and it was nice to hear him say "patents are not the way to win."
Why did the old saw "Diplomacy is saying 'nice doggie' while looking for a stick" pop to mind?"
I think I get the comment about the avitar, but my username here is not the same as my Google name. What the hell is wrong with Google that they are showing people my google account information when they search based on /. postings? I would really like to know what you found, but please don't post it here. You could try to reach me with this throwaway email address, but it will only be good for the few minutes until the email harvesters get it and the first 9 pieces of spam show up: fromAvitarFinder.kman@spamgourmet.com
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Actually, it does. Can you address "universities flood the markets and simplify the content of the classes"?
The co-founder and CEO of SOLS, a startup that manufactures custom 3-D printed orthotic insoles using scans of customers' feet, Kegan Schouwenburg is frustrated that consumer 3-D printing's most popular application is turning Internet memes into printed models.
For years, items -- from bobble heads to phone cases -- have been 3-D printed primarily because the technology itself is headline grabbing. As Schouwenburg points out, this isn't the case with most manufacturing technologies. ''Nobody is going around saying, ''this is so cool because it was injection molded,'' she says. ''They're saying ''this is a great product because it's better and improves my life in some way.''''
What Is Consumer 3-D Printing Really Good For?
The view from a height from someone with access to commercial/industrial grade tech and design tools.
The first problem I have with a 3D printer in the home is that I am asthmatic.
I could show you the stones marking the graves of family members who worked with friable asbestos and volatile organics, but the geek is as resistant to talk like this as the Tea Bagger is of climate change.
Hopefully the hypochondriacs and safety fascistas don't get to interfere with this hobby like they interfere my woodworking, metalworking, plastic casting... or just about anything else fun come to think of it.
I know from experience that lots of very silly regulation arises out speculation like this. For example VOC regulations: one person coughed once after painting all day with the windows closed, so now we can't buy oil based paints.
Health and 3-D Printing
All I found was supposed summary of the interview. Given that Fried's attitudes about open hardware are at best schizophrenic, I'm not sure I trust her summary of the conversation. Fried is on record saying that "tools don't matter" -- so to her it doesn't matter if open hardware designs are only editable using proprietary tools, or even if the design files aren't released at all except as a pdf of the schematics. She is very, very short-sighted in that regard, but hey, it's a profitable form of short-sightedness.
As for Makerbot -- until proven otherwise it is best to assume they are beyond redemption. After all, they are owned by an aggressive patent-hoarder in the 3D printing space.
Re: "Felon" Was it for fraud, embezzlement, abusing child labor, or anything actually relevant to the business?
As a matter of fact, it was. Insider trading is a form of fraud, and it defrauds all other stock market traders who trade in the same stock. It may even have defrauded you if you have an IRA fund or an annuity or any other form of investment that directly or even indirectly deals with the stock market.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
It's a written report of the interview. The link doesn't even have a video. Click on it next time before complaining.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
My point is that the term "engineer" is tossed around far too loosely today, and most engineers do what technicians did 20 years ago. And not because the jobs got harder, but because the universities flood the markets and simplify the content of the classes.
I'll take this one. MIT accepts 1 in 3000 applicants. Based on that Limor Freid is more intelligent than you by 3000 times and that is if and only if you have applied to MIT. You probably haven't. Clearly you are pissed about this because it has debased your manhood. Get over it. You are not going to get anywhere in the technical or engineering fields playing those types of mental games. You will only get anywhere by buckling down, doing the work and the learning and using it to accomplish something you an point to as an accomplishment. Limor Freid has not only very many of these things I speak of , she has many of the per week. What are you doing exactly with your time?
Explain to me how Limor is an "example" of "Universities flooding the markets and simplifying the contents of classes". It is clear you never graduated from a college or never went to MIT so you cannot comment on that can you?
The transcript is terrible though. Doesn't even separate the questions from the answers visibly.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I'm not a fan of aleph objects, but at least they're not being hypocrites in saying they care about free software. They don't need to get "get back to" anything. Open source is just another way of hiding the fact you DON'T CARE. The majority of open source proponents use that word to hide the fact that they're not releasing everything. It's not always the case with pure software projects- but with most companies using it that is the case.
ie >>>>>
http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/aleph-objects
Don't even read this fluff article which is clearly designed to try and gain makerbot a bit of its street cred back.
Forgiveness is for family not for greedy back stabbing corporations
Why should Hackaday re-post that laughable "interview" adafruit did with makerbot?
Why should adafruit even bother with Makerbot?
Money.
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