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Touring NASA's Space Shuttle Cockpit Trainer

An anonymous reader writes: Now that the space shuttles have been retired, NASA has been shutting down and cleaning out all of the equipment dedicated to keeping them in service. One such tool was the Crew Compartment Trainer II, a full-size replica of a space shuttle cockpit. Astronauts trained on it to become familiar with the operation of many onboard systems. Just before it was removed, Ars got a chance to tour it, and took a ton of pictures in the process. Quoting: "The forward windows are surprisingly small, and visibility dead ahead is limited to a very narrow section of the window. Both the pilot and commander have fighter-style HUDs (heads-up displays), which are used mainly during landing to keep them lined up and on target with the runway. ... Bloomfield walked me through a few procedures, and it was fascinating how complex the shuttles were in some areas and how primitive they were in others. The on-board computers of course received numerous updates throughout the vehicles' lives, but even in their final iteration they wouldn't have won any speed awards."

18 comments

  1. Makes me sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I believe one day one of the shuttles will fly one more time.
    Maybe public or private, many decades from now.

    1. Re:Makes me sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do we need to fly the space pick up truck again? The amount of money it would cost to put the shuttle back in the air, you'd be better off developing an entirely new flight system. Probably a safer one too.

    2. Re:Makes me sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The shuttle is capable of flying, and has flown, entirely on autopilot, no humans required.
      It doesn't need gigantic support systems... just a cheap pad, fuel, and a match.
      Any multibillionaire could buy one from a museum, bolt on some rockets
      and launch the fucking thing into space, permanent solar powered geosynchronous orbit, one last time.

    3. Re: Makes me sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can but its best to keep it in a museum as history. I am sure you could bolt an apollo lunar module and lander onto a falcon or an SLS too.

  2. Sell it to google for the staff to play in. by dwywit · · Score: 1

    Secret technology aside, wouldn't it make a great toy?

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  3. Analog flight deck was better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The original analog flight decks of the first shuttles before refit were WAY cooler.
    Computer screens... BAH!!!

    1. Re:Analog flight deck was better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why (I was part of the retrofit)? The replacement systems were so much smaller and lighter that there had to be carriers the size of a microwave (or so I was told) to hold the new part that was 100% with the old part. Not only that, but a few hundred grams would replace something that weight many kg. Think of replacing a 60's era mainframe with a raspberry pi, but make it 100% in every way (except for weight and power).

  4. We actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Barely scratched the surface of the potential of the space shuttles capabilities.

  5. Fix the Icons Covering the Titles by Kunedog · · Score: 2

    Are they touring the Space Shuttle Cock? Really?

  6. New Kids, Lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ars will get a million hits over this, like it's some kind of new.
    We saw all this stuff published in the 80's, you couldn't actually sit in it, but pictures everywhere.
    You could buy the shuttle flight manuals from the NASA.

  7. CCT-1 @ NMUSAF by Plumber,+Programmer, · · Score: 1

    If you read the article and find yourself thinking, "I wish I could see that in person," then you need to visit the National Museum of the USAF, which has CCT-1: http://www.nationalmuseum.af.m...

    1. Re:CCT-1 @ NMUSAF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you should visit by fall, or you may have to wait until next spring. The construction of museum building 4 is going to result in several months of shuffling exhibits around. The R&D and presidential aircraft are slated to be moved into the new building and out of the restricted-access area on the base, and the space stuff will get moved there. too. I believe that includes the CCT (and its payload).

  8. Not quite cleaning out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work at JSC. The SAIL (Shuttle Avionics Integration Labratory) is in my building and it hasn't been used in 4 years... SAIL is a full-sized mock-up of the space shuttle payload. They used to use it for replicating problems on board and then crafting a solution to tell the astronauts up there.

    As far as I know, it's not going anywhere even though it's a museum at this point. Space Center Houston includes the site in some of their tram tours from the museum to JSC; I suppose the money for this is the only thing keeping it from being replaced with something useful.

    But the space on the floor of the ISS mockup? No tours go there. Heck, not all badges go there (I can't get in). That area is all business.

  9. Time for by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2
    My plug for the Atlantis exhibit at KSC.

    If you are at all engineering minded, you will be completely blown away by it. I was rendered completely speechless for 30 seconds, and I saw people with tears in their eyes - I knew who the engineers were in the group. Even then, it's a glorius exhibit for all.

    Do not miss this, just don't

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  10. Velcro? by Whiteox · · Score: 1

    My memory of Apollo 1 was that the fire had to do with teflon and not velcro. Am I mistaken?

    FTA "In spite of how it burned in the Apollo 1 fire, velcro isn’t a significant fire hazard. The space shuttle kept its cabin pressurized to an Earth-normal 14.7 psia with a mix of about 80 percent nitrogen and 20 percent oxygen, and under those conditions velcro is not flammable"

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    1. Re:Velcro? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

      YEs, you are mistaken. The velcro was supposed to be limited to small patches with some separation as to prevent fire from propagating from one patch to the next if it caught fire. But it was so useful that they more-or-less carpeted the interior with it.

            Teflon was implicated in the initiation of the fire, since it cold-flows and can cause shorts, and start the fire. Once it gets going, particularly in nearly 17 psia pure oxygen (vice the in-flight 5 psia), the velcro practically explodes.

            Had the same fire started in-flight there was a remote possibility that they could have vented the cabin and put it out, and maybe survived, but the high pressure on the ground, not a chance, even aluminum can burn in those circumstances and the only reason it didn't was because the capsule burst from over-pressure before it got going.

    2. Re:Velcro? by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the clarification!

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  11. Cockpit Trainer was available for tour for years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's too bad they're taking the Cockpit Trainer away. It was, in fact, available for public tour for several years now on the more expensive tour. The amount or wiring in the trainer (same as the shuttles themselves) is staggering. The trainer had much of the internal wiring exposed the two times I toured it.