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"Breaking Bad" At the National Institute of Standards and Technology

sciencehabit writes: Police are investigating whether an explosion inside a Maryland federal laboratory was the result of an effort to make drugs. Authorities who responded to the explosion at the National Institute of Standards and Technology found pseudoephedrine, Epsom salt and other materials associated with the manufacture of meth. Federal and local law enforcement agencies are investigating the cause of the explosion and if a security guard injured in the blast might have been involved. Sciencemag reports: "Representative Lamar Smith (R–TX), chairman at the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee, got involved today, expressing grave concern over the incident in a letter to Secretary of Commerce Penny Pritzker. NIST is part of the Commerce Department. 'I am troubled by the allegations that such dangerous and illicit activity went undetected at a federal research facility. It is essential that we determine exactly where the breakdown in protocol occurred and whether similar activities could be ongoing at other federal facilities,' wrote Smith in an accompanying press release. He has requested a briefing with NIST no later than 29 July."

98 comments

  1. Interesting... by lq_x_pl · · Score: 4, Funny

    I guess that's one way to take care of the Federal Deficit.

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    1. Re:Interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really, do you know how much repairs on this building will cost?

      Probably half a million on kickbacks alone.

    2. Re:Interesting... by davester666 · · Score: 1

      FTFS "I am troubled by the allegations that such dangerous and illicit activity went undetected at a federal research facility. It is essential that we determine exactly where the breakdown in protocol occurred and whether similar activities could be ongoing at other federal facilities"

      The first sentence [and much of the summary] indicate that possibly illegal drugs were being made, but they weren't sure.
      The second sentence was "How did this happen and is it happening elsewhere" [ie, it definitely happened, and we must stop it from happening again].

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  2. not sure what to wish for... by ThatsDrDangerToYou · · Score: 1

    I'm torn between wishing it was my (former) group and wishing it wasn't. I think the stories will be much better if robots were involved. In any case, I advise BLAMING THE DEER. Always blame the deer. Or the geese.

    1. Re:not sure what to wish for... by Defenestrar · · Score: 1

      I agree. Which OU had control of the space? Where's the dirt? Is even there a single decent paparazzo left in science reporting?

      I give kudos to the selection of the "special projects" building though*. Nothing like a remote corner of campus with sloped earthwork embankments around all the lab windows for doing something like this. Do you realize how much of a success this indicates for NIST's culture of safety (which they've been working hard on ever since that little Pu oops in Boulder)? Even their alleged illicit activity takes safety into consideration (although the explosion indicates the potential perp. missed something in the hazard analysis - but hey, what do you expect from criminals).

      *For those that don't know, that was a politically clever rename of the hazards building, similar to how they also came up with the Center for Neutron Research name.

    2. Re: not sure what to wish for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They usually like to blame music or video games. Can we blame cable television this time?

    3. Re:not sure what to wish for... by ThatsDrDangerToYou · · Score: 1
      I haven't been on campus in... 25 years or so. I seem to recall the special projects building having something to do with money production, as in paper money.

      But really kids, safety first! I am ashamed at the apparent lack of proper lab procedure. We must demand only the best meth labs in the nation at NIST! I'm writing a letter to my congressman.

    4. Re: not sure what to wish for... by ThatsDrDangerToYou · · Score: 1

      They usually like to blame music or video games. Can we blame cable television this time?

      In fairness, this is pretty much all Obama's fault.

  3. Heisenberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are there any scientists that have stage 4 pancreatic cancer working at the federal lab? If there are, the feds might want to check them out.

    1. Re:Heisenberg by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      And while you're at it, check local car washes to see if the receipts match up with the observable customer traffic.

    2. Re:Heisenberg by plopez · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or anyone with huge medical bills.

      Old joke: Q: have you heard of the British version of Breaking Bad? A man finds out he has cancer and gets 5 years of free excellent health care.

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    3. Re:Heisenberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For "British" insert "The entire First World....oh, except for the United States"....

      There, fixed that for you..

    4. Re:Heisenberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then why do so many British fly overseas for treatment? And why is the NHS going broke? Stop with the anti-American propaganda already.

    5. Re: Heisenberg by computerman413 · · Score: 2

      Lousy joke. Walter White wasn't trying to pay medical bills so much as provide for his family after his death.

    6. Re: Heisenberg by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Which then just moves it to a different government department.
      Taxes can be spent on stuff other than giving a couple of guys millions for consulting on waterboarding, Star Trek set designers for the NSA and paying for dead wood executives on the FEMA payroll you know.

    7. Re:Heisenberg by OdinOdin_ · · Score: 1

      So many like 0.3% of all people needing such treatment ? I'm making my numbers up like your comment attempts to incite there is some systemic concern.

      Yes people do elsewhere as with all services, maybe it is because they are also the ones who are able to afford private medical expenses from the best in the world.

    8. Re:Heisenberg by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      For "British" insert "The entire First World....oh, except for the United States"....

      There, fixed that for you..

      There are 2 tiers of health care in the UK. The NHS is the socialized medicine and has problems. There is a private system for those who want to pay. Look it up. It isn't a utopia, and neither is Canada nor is Cuba.

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  4. Re:I am shocked! by Flavianoep · · Score: 1

    Watching porn is not dangerous nor illicit activity.

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  5. Wrong! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Spokesman for NIST, when announcing it right after coming from a dentist appointment, and his mouth was numb, said "The asplosion made a real meth of the place"

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  6. a contractor in need of paying off a big doctor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a contractor in need of paying off a big doctor bill did it. Better then asking for money from the mob with a Plus of being able to get the FED lockup plan that is better then most state lockup plans.

  7. Re:I am shocked! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is for the sort of moralists who read HotAir. It might lead to impure thoughts, after all!

  8. Re:I am shocked! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Of all the things in the world to be concerned about your government doing, it's watching naked ladies on the computer that bothers you the most? That's truly a bizarre thing to be focused on.

    Also, we've elected clown many more than two times. 1980 comes to mind as one of the most egregious examples.

  9. Re:I am shocked! by mi · · Score: 2

    Watching porn is not dangerous nor illicit activity.

    It is highly illicit, if you are using employer-provided equipment to do that — contrary to the employer's wishes.

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  10. Doesn't sound very Breaking Bad... by neminem · · Score: 1

    Walter White would *never* blow up a building. Well, I mean, he blew up plenty of buildings, but not accidentally, and not the ones he was making meth in. If you suggest the building blew up due to the behavior of someone acting like he was in Breaking Bad, I would assume the building was being used as the headquarters of some nasty Mexican drug lord, and the dude had to teach the guy a lesson in badassitude. (Sorry, spoilers.)

    1. Re:Doesn't sound very Breaking Bad... by ThatsDrDangerToYou · · Score: 1

      I AM THE ONE WHO KNOCKS.

  11. Meth Hype is Common: by Hartree · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Take things with a grain of salt. Many of these "high tech meth lab" cases are someone using a couple of soda bottles and plastic straws to make meth with ingredients they bought at Walmart.

    It may have been a random building worker doing this. If it were one of the scientists, I'd be surprised they'd be using drain cleaner as the sodium hydroxide rather than just getting some out of the lab. It's one of the most common lab chemicals.

    1. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus the explosion. I think the scientists would know how to do their work in a working fume hood and keep the reaction levels at a rate the hood was capable of clearing without hitting explosive levels.

    2. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They suspect that a guard (injured in the explosion) was cooking it. The attempt in the title to link scientist working at NIST to the meth production is misleading. First thing I thought when reading it was "This meth must have been hitting and exceeding the specs". Then i start reading about pseudoephedrine, drain cleaner and Epsom salt... Well this is not how Walter White would have done it, is it?

    3. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... using drain cleaner as the sodium hydroxide ...

      My local hardware store sells granulated NaOH in 2Kg drums. The USA instituting global controls on the manufacture of pseudoephedrine, makes me ask why NIST had some.

    4. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd upvote if I could. It'll be interesting to see whether an AC comment can get promoted to the point where people actually read it.

      To be fair to a crook, the officer was hardly endangering anyone but themselves. Also, it's less surprising that a senior security officer could smuggle material onto the campus on the weekend than that someone with a senior security officer's salary would take the risk. Of course it can happen, but it doesn't seem likely, and even after it happened once, it still doesn't. (It's like how the main protection for users sending plaintext passwords over the Internet backbone used to be the salaries of the people best positioned to steal them.)

    5. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd upvote if I could. It'll be interesting to see whether an AC comment can get promoted to the point where people actually read it.

      It used to happen all the time on /. until everyone here turned into a bunch of elitist Facebook and Google+ shitheads with their skewed notion that only real names leads to Internet civility. Fucking assholes. Anyway, mods are SUPPOSED to be perusing /. at level 0 to upvote the ACs or whatever. That's just another sign of the decay in the community here.

    6. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd just like to say that comments, and comment-chains like this, are why I always keep returning to Slashdot comments on an article. A dozen years ago this site was the archetypal shithole, good for links but the discussion was horseshit; today, the links are mostly clickbait and other stupid shit but the comments have got veins of solid gold in 'em.

      News for nerds, indeed.

    7. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

      Well this is not how Walter White would have done it, is it?

      That's the coward's way out, using drugs, where 90% of your synthesis has been done for you by already by some Big Pharma company selling pseudoephedrine to people who need to clear their noses.

      "Now get me my phenylacetic acid... bitch!"

    8. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by BUL2294 · · Score: 1

      Take things with a grain of salt.

      Apparently, Epsom salt.

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    9. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eh, kina surprised they are bothering to try to make meth. Uni & other labs are usually used to make Acid & other mind shattering substances.

    10. Re: Meth Hype is Common: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could this be detectable? That is could using pure ingredients be detected in the final product and cut down there list of potential manufacture locations?

    11. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by khallow · · Score: 1

      I think this post illustrates the pointlessness of a lot of Slashdot posting. It's an AC whining about imaginary problems.

    12. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imaginary problems? I assure you, in my nearly 20 yrs on /., the quality of content/comments has gone down the tubes here.

    13. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by khallow · · Score: 1

      I quite agree. No one talks about hot grits in the pants anymore. It's really gone down the tubes.

    14. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by bughunter · · Score: 0

      Giving up my ability to mod this thread to respond to this tripe.

      When I have mod points, I give them first to posts from accounts that carry Karma. ACs don't have Karma, so using a mod point on an AC post seems like a waste. On the rare occasion that an AC post adds value to the discussion, I will give them a +1.

      I don't have a facebook account, and my unused Google+ account was taken over by my under-13 son so he could post his minecraft video captures on YouTube. It's not about elitism, but about Karma.

      And I do peruse at 0, even when I don't have mod points because ACs are often entertaining.

      I don't communicate with other people with mod points, but I expect that most of us operate the same way.

      If there's any decay in the community it's from people who post offtopic crap to complain about other people not thinking like they do, or not liking what they like, or to inject politics into a thread. Or from those who come to a thread when it's over a day old and downmod comments that don't agree with their political views so that when the thread gets locked, those posts get archived at -1.

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    15. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Take things with a grain of salt.

      Epsom salt?

    16. Re:Meth Hype is Common: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Veins of solid gold swimming in tons of shit...

  12. Standards development by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it was probably during the development of a standard "meth" sample both a documented process and sample for use in testing and calibrating those curb side drug test kits.

    sure you could get it from your local dealer... but then you have legal and purity issues to deal with. better off making it your self in control conditions in cases like this. you have fewer problems that way.

    though accidental explosions are not one of the ones that are eliminated with this approach.

  13. NIST? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Funny

    They were probably just making a reference sample.

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    1. Re:NIST? by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      I knew some guys at a state toxicology lab. Back in the seventies they had some trouble getting a steady supply of marijuana from the feds for standards testing.

      They ended up growing some on the windowsill.

    2. Re:NIST? by swb · · Score: 1

      It does make a person wonder how many university organic chem labs churn out drugs on the side, even if its only for self-consumption.

      I would imagine by now that the precursor chemicals for relatively easy synthesis are controlled, but I would think a good PhD in organic chemistry would merely take that as a challenge and attempt a more complex synthesis which made the precursors.

      Hell, if they were clever they may even be able to some of it (or even all of it) as a legitimate project if it somehow advanced the synthesis know-how. I think I've read that the total synthesis of morphine is ridiculously complex but that it would be highly desirable to develop a synthesis that avoided any kind of opium base.

    3. Re:NIST? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, next time somebody from the lab publishes something controversial in a professional conference, a rival audience member can start the counterargument to the presenter with "Are you on meth!?"

    4. Re:NIST? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does make a person wonder how many university organic chem labs churn out drugs on the side, even if its only for self-consumption.

      Knowing quite a few pharmacologists and some Ochems, I'd say almost all of them.

      I think I've read that the total synthesis of morphine is ridiculously complex but that it would be highly desirable to develop a synthesis that avoided any kind of opium base.

      Why morphine? The organic chemists I know are all into psychedelics: LSD, MDMA, psilocine, bromo-dragonfly, etc.

      These people are smart, they know which drugs are going to fuck up their lives and which drugs make life beautiful. People with pharmaceutical and medical training tend to avoid opiates, because they see the results of addiction in their patients.

    5. Re:NIST? by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      These people are smart, they know which drugs are going to fuck up their lives and which drugs make life beautiful. People with pharmaceutical and medical training tend to avoid opiates, because they see the results of addiction in their patients.

      That's really not it at all. Different people use different types of drugs for different reasons. People that seek to escape from life choose things like morphine, people that want to relax after work tend to choose things like marijuana, people that want to experience new things seek out psychedelics, etc. Smart people tend to be driven to discover new things, which is why they tend toward psychedelics - things like morphine are just the exact opposite of the effect they desire, the effects of anything are capable of fucking up a person's life if they use it poorly.

    6. Re:NIST? by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      There's a good story about this in Making PCR, which is Kary Mullis's story of his life and career before the Nobel. He substituted a couple of positions on a psychedelic and ended up boosting the potency so much that he took a huge overdose by mistake.

    7. Re:NIST? by swb · · Score: 1

      You're forgetting more functional reasons -- like pain relief?

      It wouldn't surprise me at all if more than a few long-time lab rats ended up with orthopedic issues from decades of standing in lab environments.

      It's not a stretch from that to morphine synthesis to treat back pain.

  14. Breakdown in protocol by TwentyCharsIsNotEnou · · Score: 1

    It is essential that we determine exactly where the breakdown in protocol occurred and whether similar activities could be ongoing at other federal facilities.

    Sounds like the "protocol" might be changed from "treat everyone as suspicious" to "treat everyone as guilty".

    1. Re:Breakdown in protocol by preaction · · Score: 1

      You mean like everything to do with meth already is?

      Why do I *sneeze* need to give you my driver's license? *sneeze* All I want is allergy *sneeze* medication *sneeze*!

    2. Re:Breakdown in protocol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Supposedly you're still innocent until proven guilty. However, what they do to innocent peoples these days...

    3. Re:Breakdown in protocol by ShaunC · · Score: 1

      That precise experience inspired the sig I've had for a few years.

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  15. Re:I am shocked! by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

    Yes. But hardly dangerous like an illicit meth factory. You are comparing two very different things.

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  16. Josh Ernest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Josh Ernest just cleared it up. It is George W. Bush's fault and global warming contributed to the explosion.

    Nothing to see here, move along...

    1. Re:Josh Ernest by sabbede · · Score: 1

      Hah!

  17. Nothing here by barbariccow · · Score: 1

    So a lab had some common chemicals, and someone had cold medicine. According to what I learned in D.A.R.E. I could probably make cocaine, meth, and heroin with what I found in the janitor's closet.

    1. Re:Nothing here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're likely to find cocaine itself in the janitor's closet.

  18. Re:I am shocked! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    I doubt it. I'm actually very certain their thoughts are purely focused.

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  19. Re:I am shocked! by Flavianoep · · Score: 1

    The "masturbators" where punished, nonetheless. But that none were fired is quite surprising. Watching porn is one of the reasons to an employee be justifiably fired here in Brazil, but that is because unjustifiably firing here is quite costly. I think that you should push for harsher punishment for civil servants using state resources to watching porn.

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  20. Re:I am shocked! by mi · · Score: 1
    Well, considering the fact, that they worked for SEC — and were supposed to watch for and prevent or, at least, soften the impact of, financial disaster that occurred, their dereliction of duty did prove rather dangerous.

    You are comparing two very different things.

    Point is, the actions are both highly outrageous and unimaginable to anybody — their bosses and critics alike — until both happened...

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  21. Re:I am shocked! by Holi · · Score: 3, Informative

    You think watching porn on a work computer is "highly outrageous and unimaginable to anybody"?? What the hell are you doing on slashdot? I am pretty sure I have never worked anywhere where I did not come across porn in someone's history, and I bet the same could be said for the numerous sysadmins here.

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  22. Re:I am shocked! by mi · · Score: 1

    the sort of moralists who read HotAir

    Seriously? You are going to attack a message based on who delivered it? Well, my first link was from CNN, is that Ok with you? I then went searching for any report on what happened to them — is it my fault, that the CNN had no attention span enough to follow-up on the story?

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  23. Meth by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    Meth. Not even BOOOOM!!!!!

  24. Dude, just take a stapler or something by istartedi · · Score: 1

    Dude. Just take a stapler and some pens or something. Everything has limits.

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  25. Re:I am shocked! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

    Seriously? After reports of government lawyers watching porn on their office computers [cnn.com], nothing really surprises me about Federal government. Especially given the nincompoop we've twice elected to run it.

    Um, it happened under the previous nincompoop.

    Read the article you linked. The "events which took our economy to the brink of collapse" occurred in 2008. The current nincompoop was sworn in at the end of January, 2009.

    Don't you hate it when your partisan flamebait goes up in a puff of smoke?

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  26. Politics by drooling-dog · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here we go... A relatively routine law enforcement matter is going to become a political pseudo-scandal. Scientists are evil and corrupt, so how can we trust them about climate change or evolution? Perhaps the drugs were being made at Obama's personal request. Why else would Lamar Smith be taking and interest?

    1. Re:Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you took it one direction, but I'll take it another.

      I think it will simply be, if they DO indeed find that Federal or contracted employees at NIST were making meth, or doing something illegal, it will bark it's way up the chain of command to the Commerce Secertary. And then, hey will likely have to testify before Congress for some silly reason. And, due to the nature of a Congressional investigation giving the Executive a black eye, the Secertary will fall on the sword and resign accordingly. In the end it will be noted that another Secertary in Obamas Cabinet resinged during his leadership. Not that idiot employees at NIST decided to make extra use of lab equipment on hand, and mis-calculated their percentages.

  27. Re:I am shocked! by mi · · Score: 4, Funny

    What the hell are you doing on slashdot?

    Reading the articles, baby.

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  28. Re:I am shocked! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do you mean by "undetected". The stuff literally blew up!

  29. Re:I am shocked! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Watching porn is not dangerous nor illicit activity.

    Then you're doing it wrong.

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  30. Boring Life by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Watching porn is not dangerous

    You, sir, are not watching the right kind of porn.

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    1. Re:Boring Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but if you're caught watching that kind of porn while at a government job, they'll just cover it up to avoid the public shitstorm, so it's ok.

  31. Not buying it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This story dropped out of the blue with no development in regards to the explanation.

    What really happened?

  32. Are they violating DMCA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is shameful !

  33. Re:I am shocked! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CNN is weak too, but Hot Air is mostly absurd wingnut propaganda. You'd realize that if you didn't identify with the destructive right-wing fools.

  34. Waiting for it... by EverythingsPermitted · · Score: 1

    Administration Official: China did it.

  35. Hardly surprising by Demonoid-Penguin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not all "cooks" work out of caravans (what they call trailers in the USA). Chemistry labs in universities are frequently used by students, and occasionally staff, to produce illegal drugs. Even Lidcombe Analytical Labs where seized drugs are tested for court has had similar incidents.

    The (Oz) Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry used to occupy a building in Barton, Canberra. In the warren of large storage rooms in the lower basement filled with old furniture and equipment a cannabis grow room was once discovered. And two separate areas where people were living. No one was charged with the grow op, and it was quietly cleaned out. Two rooms along, sharing the same ventilation system was where the Quarantine Inspection Service dog handlers worked - and they would frequently do some of the "find the sock with the pot" training in the shared basement loading bays. Must of confused the hell out of the dogs (or maybe just the trainers). Especially given the number of IT staff who worked out of rooms in the same corridors and were known for using the same carpark for sharing a quick joint at lunchtime when it was raining outside.

    Several times I'd gotten out of a lift down to the basement with people that reeked of reefer and we've all had to walk past drug sniffing dogs being walked the other way along the corridors. I often wondered if AQIS detection rates at the airport could have been a little higher.

    That same building is now home to the Australian Federal Police - whenever I've visited the lower basement level I've wondered whether the tradition continues.

    1. Re:Hardly surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cops can just use the confiscated drugs :D

    2. Re:Hardly surprising by ThatsDrDangerToYou · · Score: 1

      "Caravans"? Um, we don't call them that here in the US. The "Breaking Bad" vehicle would be called an RV (recreational vehicle), and a trailer would be called a trailer. Anyway, cheers mate!

    3. Re:Hardly surprising by Demonoid-Penguin · · Score: 1

      "Caravans"? Um, we don't call them that here in the US. The "Breaking Bad" vehicle would be called an RV (recreational vehicle), and a trailer would be called a trailer. Anyway, cheers mate!

      A house in a van is called a camper-van here. A trailer is what we load with rubbish to take to a tip. A house on wheels that you tow we call a caravan. What you call a trailer park we call a caravan park. A 4-wheel drive is called an RV.
      "Cooking" in "trailers' parked in the "woods" is common [translates to] "Cooking" in "caravans" parked in the "bush". Have a good one buddy!

  36. Re:I am shocked! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    GP is apparently taking a short break from reading other peoples' histories.

    Why would anybody do anything at work with a browser that the IT pukes would find and use to jack off to?

  37. Re:I am shocked! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    The big skinny clown we elected this time around just needs the makeup. The big floppy ears are already in place.

    His predecessor was nearly an Alfred E. Neuman clone.

    But the one before that wasn't funny. Sexual predators aren't wholesome entertainment.

  38. Re:I am shocked! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop being racist, racist.
    Because that's all you can be if you keep looking at how much better off the country is than it was when he took office and all you can repeatedly say is "he's ruined the country".

    Dont make me link to your attempted anonymous submission about how muslims are inferior and evil again.

  39. Re:I am shocked! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    he's not attacking the message based on who delivered it.
    he's attacking you for being an idiot.

  40. 'gone undetected' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What does he mean gone undetected? The big explosion kinda made people detect it, no?

  41. Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe ask them about 9/11 while you're there.

  42. Re:I am shocked! by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Depends on the workplace. In a typical office it's bad news, in a government office of most types very bad news, in mining, who gives a fuck?

  43. Mod parent +1 Insightful! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nt

  44. In other words by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    "Representative Lamar Smith (R - TX), chairman at the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee, got involved today, expressing grave concern over the incident in a letter to Secretary of Commerce Penny Pritzker. NIST is part of the Commerce Department. 'I am troubled by the allegations that such dangerous and illicit activity went undetected at a federal research facility. It is essential that we determine exactly where the breakdown in protocol occurred and whether similar activities could be ongoing at other federal facilities,' wrote Smith in an accompanying press release. He has requested a briefing with NIST no later than 29 July."

    Meaning: 'I want all this privatized and sold to my asshole buddies for pennies on the dollar.'

  45. I wonder if it was legitimate research by sabbede · · Score: 1

    If you want to know more about the risks involved in the production of illegal drugs, how to detect said production, and clean up the mess it makes, you have to make some yourself.

  46. Re:I am shocked! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    If you think the country is better now in 2015 than it was in January 2005, than it is you with the rose colored glasses.

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  47. Re:I am shocked! by david_thornley · · Score: 1

    2005 was before the horrible crash that had been building up. We're better off in 2015 than we were on January 20, 2009, when Obama was sworn in.

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  48. Re:I am shocked! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry, I meant to type 2009, not sure how 2005 got in there. I did mean specifically just before Obama took office compared to now.

    Unemployment/Underemployment/Labor participation numbers are absolutely abysmal, these are the true measures of a recovery, not how the stock market is doing.

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