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An Interview With Hacking Team's CEO
Alastair Stevenson writes: I talked to the leader of the world's most hated surveillance company about its path to recovery and morals, following a massive attack on its systems. CEO David Vincenzetti, as you might expect, thinks that his company "deserves the protection of law and order," and disclaims (also as you'd expect) responsibility for what its clients do with the privacy-unraveling software it provides: Law enforcement must have a way to do what it has always done, that is to track criminals and prevent or prosecute crime. With the development of global terrorism and especially the ‘lone wolf’ terrorist, this requirement is even more important.
Hacking Team has helped fight crime by providing a surveillance tool to law enforcement. The company believes this is a small step toward a more secure world for all who wish to used the Internet and digital tools lawfully.
How about normal people who deserve protection from law and order? Politicians are corrupt, laws mean money instead of justice and governments all over the world are turning into dictatorships where elections are pointless and leaders do whatever the hell they please against their own citizens.
Hacking Team is as guilty as the people building bombs. Sure they're not the ones launching them, but you know that's all they're going to be used for.
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They do an enormous amount of plotting with ... themselves?
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What's he complaining about, again? He doesn't want to accept his fair share of the cost? That's just mean, though.
BI: Does Hacking Team know how the hackers managed to get into its systems?
DV: We have analysed the attack and learned a good deal about the techniques used, exactly what was taken, and how. That has allowed us to take steps to protect new systems that are now in place. Of course, we cannot provide details since to do so would provide valuable information for anyone wishing to attack our company in the future.
I believe that last line wasn't transcribed correctly. I believe what Vincenzetti actually said was, "Of course, we cannot provide details since to do so would provide valuable information, and then we wouldn't be able to sell it to our clients. You think we're gonna give this shit away for free?"
Exploits that were watermarked to the client that your sold them to.
These are not tools that should ever be in police hands. Requiring that outside firms do this sort of thing and thus need to keep the paper trail of warrants that allowed each and every event. Require that they be audited and a special prosecutor look into any apparent/potential breaches of law and prosecute them to the full extent (no plea deals). Require that all security vulnerabilities be disclosed to the public in 30-90 days. Tighten up these warrants in the first place and full public disclosure of the same after a reasonable investigatory period say 90 days.
The NSA etc should have these tools and a very big firewall between them and law enforcement.
No sir I dont like it.
There are laws for unreasonable search and seizure.
Shouldn't they apply to your electronics as well?
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I have a better idea than 'change'. Quit. Admit wrong. Or go suck the fat cash dick of of another tin pot dictator or wannabe Mousollini.
Silence is a state of mime.
If his company hadn't been hacked, and their filthy dirty laundry thrown in the street for everyone to see, would he still be talking about their need to find a "path to recovery and morals"?
I wish him nothing but a lifetime of regret and penury.
You are welcome on my lawn.
If they had integrated the requirement of a judges finger print to authorize the uses of the tools they sell to law enforcement then I would be cool with what they are selling. Unfortunately they don't care how there tools are used just how much money they are going to make from there sale.
and just because many things in the west that are OK or even normal are viewed as being criminal in certain countries is the fault. Oh what a web of lies we must tell ourselves so we can sleep at night knowing our product kills innocents.
Isn't damage control great. "I completely disclaim all responsibility for everything my company has ever done. Even though I KNEW our products were being used illegally for evil purposes. FOR THE COMMON GOOD ... they said." (misquoted from "The Quiet Earth"). This is no different than some company selling Iran parts to build a nuclear weapon and then looking the other way and disclaiming all responsibility after they detonated one somewhere. "Oh it wasn't us, it was somebody else". These people need long prison sentences, for the common good of the world.
Which law? From the constitution of the New World Order?
And there are ways around search and seizure. Just look a civil forfeiture.
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"Alastair Stevenson writes: I talked to the leader of the world's most hated surveillance company"
The NSA?
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I don't buy that as a major priority. That's just code for destroying civil liberties in the name of a budget increase.
He needs to go and "F" himself. He claims law should protect his company but his company can break any law, as long as it helps his company make money. Hypocrisy anyone ?
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The laws that we have, no matter in which country you live, were written to protect the rich, the powerful, the elites
The cops are not there to enforce justice - the cops are there to make sure the non-elites do not do anything that might endanger those who are powerful and/or wealthy
The soldiers are not there to protect the country - they are there to be used by the powerful to carry out all kinds of dirty, grizzly stuffs for them
As for that David Vincenzetti, TL;DR -- what he essentially said is that he deserved the protection of the laws because "he steals for the ELITES"
You see, he never denied that what he does is not that much difference from a thief - the one thing that his "Hacking Team" does is stealing - stealing information from others, and then pass those info (aka the loot) to those wealthy enough to pay them - thus, he is demanding protection of the law because he works for the elites
he should be violently killed. His family, relatives, should also be violently killed. All HT employees and their families should be exterminated, all of them should be tortured with electrivity, waterboarding, genital mutilation and finally beheading. All of them. Then you put the video up on the internet as a lesson for future bragging shitheads like this ceo.
If we continue down this path, the next step will be the people having to defend themselves against their government and police
I just had to laugh out loud reading it
IF we continue down this path ???
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While it has been nice for you to list out your morality argument let me remind you that to the elites 'morality' is but a tool to subjugate the masses - and .. as everything else, the elites are above the constraint of 'morality'
No matter if it's the Republicans or the Democrats (or in the context of Europe, the right-wing versus the left-wing), morality never applies
In Greece, the leftists accuse tag the 'terrorist' label on their right-wing opponent, the Golden Dawn, and throw all the leaders of the Golden Dawn party into the jail on trumped up charges
In France, Hollander and his followers use every conceivable governmental apparatus, from the courts to the police, to tarnish the reputations of their political opponent - from the National Front to the Les Républicains, the political party which Nicolas Sarkozy belongs to
In USA, IRS has been used by the Democrats to harass the NGOs that do not obey them
'Morality' never applies to the elites - it only applies to the masses, the sheeples, the stupid, ignorant slaves
My question is why wasnt the friend charged with perjury
Could the reason be that the friend of his wasn't a 'privileged White male'?
These people made good money like so many other "security experts", deliberately provoking and scaring people into handing over teh c4sh. They were brazenly open about it, it's right in their name. No, they are not "hackers" in any positive sense, starting with taking an unearned epithet, followed up by deeds worthy of spotty basement-dwelling s'kiddies, only now in a nice office and with a company registration.
I really don't care what they have to say for themselves after falling on their faces in public. In this case, the obvious prejudice they invite has turned out accurate, for absolutely nothing contrary to their self-identification as deplorable hollywood stereotypes exuded already by their very name can be discerned in their deeds, leaked archives, and whatnot else.
They've made the bottom of the barrel accessible to governments and businesses. They are not repentant about it, for they still exist.
not likely. And they are not nearly as disruptive and intrusive as the state-sponsored cyber-terrorists NSA.
What bugs did you find and what steps did you do to help fix them instead of exploiting them?
When did you contact adobe about their bug in flash?
It seems to me that knowing about a vulnerability, not telling the vendor, and telling someone else is tantamount to blackmail.
Why can't Microsoft etc go after these people in the courts?
"With the ***development*** of global terrorism and especially the ‘lone wolf’ terrorist..."
Generally things are lost in translation. Sometimes however they are revealed
Okay. So they say they help law enforcement for moral reasons. If they get involved with moral reasons - then what about the horrible organizations they sell malware to? Oh, but they don't care about what their customers do with their malware. Wait, but they help law enforcement for moral reason.
Contradiction much.