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Samsung Wants To Bring Back the Flip Phone With Bendable Screens

redletterdave writes: A new patent filed last April but published by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office earlier this month suggests Samsung might be working on a smartphone that can bend in half like a flip phone. The biggest problem, according to the patent, is all the strain that accumulates by continually folding the display, or keeping the display folded for a long period of time, which can result in deformations and imperfections, Samsung notes. But Samsung's patent also describes how the phone could keep track of how long it's been in the folded and unfolded states, so as to alert the user of any strain that needs to be relieved. This could help extend the lifetime of the phone and its display.

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  1. A solution in search of a problem by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A problem we've solved already. Just use a hinge and two screens. Use code to stitch them into a logical entity. Bezels can be small, on one side.

    I have a feeling it's just patent-troll-defense.

    1. Re:A solution in search of a problem by smallfries · · Score: 0

      So the tactile interface should have a seam? Please tell me that one of the bigger kids checks your ideas over before release.

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    2. Re:A solution in search of a problem by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 3, Funny

      A problem we've solved already. Just use a hinge and two screens..

      Please put a mechanical keyboard on one half, not a screen.

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    3. Re:A solution in search of a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I very much doubt they will do that.

      If both halves are screens, the bottom can act as a keyboard sometimes and display other things at other times. On the other hand, if it is a mechanical keyboard, a keyboard is all it can ever be.

      Mechanical keyboards are pretty much not a thing any more on smartphones for that reason. The real estate is precious, and using it in the most flexible way is what most people want.

    4. Re:A solution in search of a problem by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Funny

      How is this news? The iPhone 6 is already foldable, I remember seeing videos when it was launched.

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    5. Re:A solution in search of a problem by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      You mean you want a Nintendo DS with a GSM radio?

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    6. Re:A solution in search of a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used Verizon, you inconsiderate clod!

      (CDMA)

    7. Re:A solution in search of a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your tone and word choice has betrayed your intellectual level as a toddler.

    8. Re:A solution in search of a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A hinge and two screens defeats the purpose of having one giant screen that can fold in two. Did you even read the article ? Of course not this is /. after all.

    9. Re:A solution in search of a problem by lgw · · Score: 2

      Wouldn't bother me any, but then I shattered the glass on my phone about 3 years ago, and it has many seams. Still works fine for me.

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    10. Re:A solution in search of a problem by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      A standard size smartphone with a hinged keyboard would be nice. It would keep the display from getting broken/scratched and give you a useable keyboard too.

    11. Re:A solution in search of a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bring back the matrix style handsets bro. Then I'll buy your shit Samsung!

    12. Re:A solution in search of a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I imagine this would be useful for anyone that loves those giant phones but hate when they get bent in their pockets. Or perhaps someone who likes the portability of a 4" screen but also likes the visibility of an 8" screen at times.

      Flip phone is the first step.

      Sad to see so much mockery of a potentially very useful technology here on slashdot of all places.

    13. Re:A solution in search of a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please put a mechanical keyboard on both halves. It doesn't need a screen.

    14. Re:A solution in search of a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's wrong with the dozen or so smartphones with a slide-out keyboard currently on the market?

    15. Re:A solution in search of a problem by smallfries · · Score: 1

      Surely you mean that they *have*

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  2. "This could help extend the lifetime of the phone" by Kinwolf · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You mean Samsung would know when to tell the phone "not" to open as per their planned obsolescence policy.

  3. Just what I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    A phone that nags me because it's under stress.

    Get a fucking shrink like the rest of us.

    1. Re:Just what I want... by tylersoze · · Score: 1

      "...nags me because it's under stress."

      So basically another wife?

    2. Re:Just what I want... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I always assumed they nag because they enjoy it. Is it only stress that causes it?

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  4. Re:"This could help extend the lifetime of the pho by The-Ixian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This assumes some kind of software controlled physical locking mechanism wouldn't it?

    Not really sure how useful a physical locking mechanism would be on such a small device... It makes me think of the little lock on children's diaries... utterly pointless against a determined attacker with physical access.

    If Samsung wanted to enforce obsolescence in a dastardly way, it could do it a lot easier by simply bricking the phone through a software mechanism.

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  5. Warranty Denied by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "But Samsung's patent also describes how the phone could keep track of how long it's been in the folded and unfolded states, so as to alert the user of any strain that needs to be relieved."

    So sorry, your RMA request is denied due to error 666: Folding counter too large. Please enable SMARTS on your new phone.

  6. Ho Hum by BoRegardless · · Score: 1

    Execution on this sort of thing is why Samsung shares dropped.

  7. No offense, but... by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 1

    This revolutionary touchscreen appears to be foldable in exactly the same way that a standard modern-day touchscreen is foldable. You can fold it, but it won't really work afterwards.

    1. Re:No offense, but... by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      Sounds more like a flop phone.

  8. The feature Samsung should bring back by Dracos · · Score: 1

    Hardware QWERTY keyboard. This is the only reason why I haven't upgraded from my Epic 4G.

    1. Re:The feature Samsung should bring back by Hydrian · · Score: 1

      I totally second this. If you type a lot with your smartphone, a physical keyboard is invaluable. If you use a slider style, you don't have to worry about that always fragile hinge and not sacrifice any screen size for the keyboard. Yea, your going to add some weight and thickness to the phone. But in my opinion, phones have become too light and thin. They always feel like they are going to slip out of my hands unless I put some type to tacky material/case on them.

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    2. Re:The feature Samsung should bring back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I totally second this. If you type a lot with your smartphone, a physical keyboard is invaluable. If you use a slider style, you don't have to worry about that always fragile hinge and not sacrifice any screen size for the keyboard. Yea, your going to add some weight and thickness to the phone. But in my opinion, phones have become too light and thin. They always feel like they are going to slip out of my hands unless I put some type to tacky material/case on them.

      Swype has made mechanical keyboards on smartphones all but obsolete.

    3. Re:The feature Samsung should bring back by omnichad · · Score: 1

      And you've never tried typing with any swipe keyboard? Android's built-in keyboard lets you swipe and spell and is faster than I've ever been able to get with a physical keyboard. And that's one-handed operation.

    4. Re:The feature Samsung should bring back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haptic feedback can alleviate that. The technology has been around for a minute. The best place to start would be with keyboards.

  9. Kirk to Enterprise.... by tekrat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course the flip phone is coming back, they are even in use in the 23rd century! I have seen the historical documents!

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    1. Re:Kirk to Enterprise.... by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

      Of course the flip phone is coming back, they are even in use in the 23rd century! I have seen the historical documents!

      I'm sure it will make a comeback. Never give up! Never surrender!

  10. Re:"This could help extend the lifetime of the pho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Samsung would just know that the screen is guaranteed to break after so many opening and closings, so they know the phones wont last long term

  11. give us stuff we actually want. by nimbius · · Score: 1

    First we had flowing screens along the edge of phones, now weve got bendable flip phones, and at some point we gained proximity gestures for a little while. Why cant phone manufacturers provide a product with features people actually want? a charger that doesnt change every year, removable storage, replaceable battery, support for multiple sims? Why does every new phone have to be a testament to landfill management?

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    1. Re:give us stuff we actually want. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why does every new phone have to be a testament to landfill management?

      So they can sell more stuff, its pretty simple. A phone that lasts 10 years or uses standardized accessories doesn't help in their cash grab goal.

    2. Re:give us stuff we actually want. by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

      ...Why does every new phone have to be a testament to landfill management?

      It's the economy stupid! How are we going to keep the shareholders in Guccis and Beemers unless we keep dumping non-renewable resources into landfill and robbing future generations of their chance at a decent life on Earth?

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    3. Re:give us stuff we actually want. by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      They're all in search of the next big thing. Smartphones, right now, have hit a plateau. You can tweak some feature sets here and there such as adding some additional CPU power/memory/battery life, but overall pretty much any smartphone is the same as any other smartphone. If a phone manufacturer comes out with a "more power" smartphone, all it will take is their rivals packing more power into THEIR next product to dethrone the "more power" phone. So phone manufacturers are resorting to gimmicks to get an edge on the competition. Unfortunately for the manufacturers, none of these gimmicks has caught on. And, if it did, it wouldn't be long before other manufacturers copied the gimmick, all-but-completely negating the advantage for the original manufacturer had.

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    4. Re:give us stuff we actually want. by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      This is especially true for these "flagship" phones. Give me something really impressive rather than some gimmick. I think that Nokia was the only one who got anything close to this wit their 42 megapixel camera on a phone. Everybody else is just making it thinner or adding gimmicks like the edge screen that are fun for the first 10 minutes and then eventually don't actually provide any useful features.

      How about sticking an actually actual SSD into a phone. Those things are getting pretty small. It would be great if my phone had a real, upgradeable SSD in it. Add a real camera lens with an actual flash (non of this LED nonsense). Really somebody should be making a phone that can substitute for an actual computer when you're in a pinch, it should be able to connect to all the peripherals (keyboard, mouse, monitor). Maybe it only works in this mode when it's plugged in. But it should be possible. As it stands right now, you don't get anything extra real features out of buying a $700 phone then you do when you buy the $200 phone. And in some cases like removable storage and battery, you actually get less for your money.

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    5. Re:give us stuff we actually want. by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      Why cant phone manufacturers provide a product with features people actually want? a charger that doesnt change every year, removable storage, replaceable battery, support for multiple sims?

      They do already. My phone (Cubot GT72E) has all that, and it was only $60 new.

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    6. Re:give us stuff we actually want. by narcc · · Score: 1

      Why cant phone manufacturers provide a product with features people actually want? a charger that doesnt change every year, removable storage, replaceable battery, support for multiple sims?

      Those are as common as pimples at a school dance. If you can't find a phone with those features, you haven't been looking.

  12. It's a Tamagotchi cell phone! by spafbi · · Score: 1

    This is brilliant! All the kids will want one so they, too, may brag about how long they've been able to keep their pet^H^H^H cell phone healthy and alive.

  13. Great. A phone that bitches under stress by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and complains when it's been bent over too long.

    Why do I need this? I already have a wife.

  14. Bring Back? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *stares at his 2015 LG flip phone*

    What do you mean "bring back"? Did flip phones disappear shortly after the beginning of the year?

  15. From Samsung? by jarich · · Score: 1

    Having recently dealt with Samsung on a warranty issue, I promise I won't be an early adopter of anything they push out. Especially first gen.

    1. Re:From Samsung? by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      I am coming to realize that with the smart TV I bought about a year ago.

      Amazon and Netflix keep breaking causing me to update the TV and the apps pretty regularly.

      Not exactly a harsh criticism of Samsung but I have never seemed to have this issue with my Roku on the other TV.

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    2. Re:From Samsung? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      The Roku updates automatically. Ever come back to your Roku and see it on the home screen? That's thanks to an update.

    3. Re:From Samsung? by TheRecklessWanderer · · Score: 1

      Smart TVs are the devil

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  16. Strain? Relax, bro. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The biggest problem, according to the patent, is all the strain that accumulates by continually folding the display, or keeping the display folded for a long period of time, which can result in deformations and imperfections, Samsung notes

    Don't fold the thing, ROLL it. Sell it at the dispensary with a few packs of Zig-Zags and brand it the Galaxy S 420. Problem solved.

  17. waiting for Apple by chilenexus · · Score: 1

    I'm waiting for Apple to accuse them of stealing this idea from them. Their late 80s video "Knowledge Navigator" constitutes copyright on the idea, right? \

    1. Re:waiting for Apple by JazzLad · · Score: 1

      Came looking for this comment, left satisfied.

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  18. I have a better idea by Picass0 · · Score: 1

    How about giving me a phone that makes it through a full day or two of real world use without running out of juice? Bonus points if I can actually make a decent quality phone call where both parties easily hear each other.

  19. But how will I butt dial my friends? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Seriously?

    Flip phones reduce the joy of having my family and friends butt dial me from their cars, from a party, and oh so many other events.

    Save the butt dial!

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  20. Well, I'm in by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    I'll buy one.

    If they flip it the other way. I want a bigger screen when I choose to unfold it that way.

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  21. actually I miss my flip phone... by k6mfw · · Score: 1

    It had excellent fidelity (loud too, can use while window was open), large tactile buttons for me to dial numbers without taking my eyes off the road. Though it considered now as big, heavy, and scary (Motorola flip phone with GTE wireless embellishment).

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  22. But that's reproducible with ease. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And thus they'd be caught. This is more like Apple's overly sensitive moisture dots.

    (Apple lost that class action though.)

  23. Re:"This could help extend the lifetime of the pho by lgw · · Score: 1

    You mean Samsung would know when to tell the phone "not" to open as per their planned obsolescence policy.

    Hey, now, this isn't Sony we're talking about. ("Sony timer" was a common phrase in Japan for a few years, with a strong urban legend that actual timers were built in to pop the day the warrantee expired. My favorite urban legend was that Sony employees carried a remote that could expire all your Sony timers early if you annoyed them.)

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  24. Re: "This could help extend the lifetime of the ph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Sony smartphones of late are not only as good or better than the Samsung crap, they are also as open as a Nexus. Like, boot unlock codes, flash tools and kernel and Android factory images with sources open. Don't even compare them to Samsung.

  25. Are you happy to see me, or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is that just your phone unbending in your pocket?