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Uber Invests $1 Billion In Indian Market

New submitter keithlynpitts writes: Uber is looking to expand its services in India, and will invest $1 billion there in the next nine months. India is the second biggest market for Uber after the U.S. The company hopes their investment will help speed growth in the country, which is already at a staggering 40% every month. "We expect to hit over 1 million trips per day," said Amit Jain, president at Uber India.

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  1. Hype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Unlimited funding to attract an expected unlimited number of post-IPO suckers.

    1. Re:Hype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The problem with all these hypes is that when the bubble burst all stock markets suffer, even the 'honest' businesses. Even when you don't follow the hype and only invest in the trustworthy stocks, you will still be a loser when the bubble burst. You can only hope that you are not in a bear market caused by deflating bubbles when you desperately need your money.

    2. Re:Hype by mruizcamauer · · Score: 0

      "This new influx of funds will be used to further improve its operations in India, launch in new cities and develop new payment solutions and products. " How do you spend 1B in this? a new payment portal, some advertising... but 1B?? considering the cost of IT and other resources in India, this seems like way too much money. Money laundering? Sending overvallued stock abroad?

  2. Slashvertising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Article: Uber plans to invest $1 billion
    Headline: Uber invests $1 billion

    JUST SAYIN

    1. Re:Slashvertising by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      I plan to invest 1 million litoshi in Uber.

    2. Re:Slashvertising by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1, Funny

      500 Quatloos on the Übercomers!

      Unfortunately, no one here is old enough to get that joke . . .

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    3. Re:Slashvertising by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Of course not. They all died in combat. I did make 2500 quatloos though.

  3. fuber by invictusvoyd · · Score: 2

    Making a ride sharing app is not the real thing now . The process of engaging partners (drivers) will be the crucial thing in this marketplace. The driver involved in the recent uber rape incident in India had earlier been booked for rape and uber had no clue about this .

    1. Re:fuber by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The driver involved in the recent uber rape incident in India had earlier been booked for rape and uber had no clue about this .

      The problem is doing something about it. If you search for information on this stuff you could easily get the impression that Uber is the root of all rape in India, but that's a lot of complete horseshit. The truth is that some states still have incomplete and/or half-assed records on taxi drivers, and no Indian state really gave a shit about criminal background checks until the international community began to shine a light on rape in India after a young woman was raped to death on a moving bus, and the locals finally reacted.

      The truth is that most of the world is inordinately kind to rapists, this is only really changing now, and Uber is no more or less complicit than the rest of India. There's literally no framework in place which would make it possible for them to do background checks on drivers in India. The ones used for the licensed taxis are bullshit, when they even exist.

      TL;DR: India is rapey, it's not just Uber.

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    2. Re:fuber by invictusvoyd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There's literally no framework in place which would make it possible for them to do background checks on drivers in India.

      Apparently there are private investigators who do background checks in India for the IT outsourcing industry but they are a little more expensive than directly accepting forged supporting documents from a driver.

    3. Re:fuber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TL;DR: India is rapey, it's not just Uber.

      Thank you for your brilliant insight.
      Wait, you didn't come up with that. That's what the newspaper "opinion panels" told you.
      One rape case out of hundreds of thousands of trips everyday over a year.

      Let's go with the "unreported rape" rebuttals.

    4. Re:fuber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... Indian state really gave a shit about criminal background checks until the international community began to shine a light on rape in India after a young woman was raped to death on a moving bus ...

      The international community? Mate, it was the Indians protesting in New Delhi that the international broadcasters covered. There was no "international community" you speak of.

      TL;DR: India is rapey, it's not just Uber.

      You need to stop watching Fox "News", grow up and get some perspective. By that standard, every country is a specialist in something negative depending on the news source you read.

  4. delusional people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In its latest round of funding, Uber raised $2.8 billion, valuing the company at $40 billion. (It is reportedly raising another round of funding, which could value it at $50 billion.)

    So? After seeing how VCs "calculate" value, I think you'd get a much more accurate valuation by using tarot cards. They calculate values to justify getting more money and paying themselves their fees. I see absolutely no justification for a $40 billion valuation nor an increase of 10 billion. These people are delusional along with their investors.

    Uber expects the investment will contribute to even more rapid growth in the country. It said it's already seeing 40% growth in India every month.

    Yeah, because we all know growth is linear and just goes up. And HOW are they calculating this growth. Remember kids, figures don't lie, but liars ....yadda yadda yadda ...

    Uber isn't without competition from other car-hailing services in India. The biggest is Olacabs, which has raised $810 million, according to the report.

    I'm having flashbacks to the late 1990s.

    Increasing market share does not mean in any way increased profitability or even the likelihood of profitability.

    1. Re:delusional people by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      These people are delusional along with their investors.

      economy = i

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  5. Uber will succeed in India by jkrise · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The 'call taxi' market, as it is called here in India, is fractured and ripe for disruption. Unions in taxis are very weak. People here do not value privacy over saving a few rupees. RedBus and TicketGoose have made it big in bus reservations. Uber will tie up with Microsoft and Google to plunder the call taxi market.

    I helped write taxi dispatch s/w for 3 firms, and I feel Uber will drive out Ola, TaxiForSure and other fringe players...

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    1. Re:Uber will succeed in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Used Ola a lot while in Chennai. They were very reliable. No need for Uber really. The locals really don't earn that much so the only way Uber can succeed is to undercut the opposition.
      Frankly I'd rather put money in the hands of Indians rather than give it (indirectly) to Microsoft.

    2. Re:Uber will succeed in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My bet is on Ola, they are pretty strong in Tier-A cities, they own TaxiForSure, they attract as much VC money as Uber, and burn though them as quickly as Uber too. Uber is still too foreign for the people's tastes, and Uber spends very little on traditional (radio/tv) marketing, is pretty much unknown to the masses.

    3. Re:Uber will succeed in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Used both Ola and Uber a lot while in Chennai. While the taxis arrived with either, there were significant differences between the two:

      1) About 50% of the time, the Ola drivers don't get your GPS coordinate. So they call for directions. This is a pain, I don't want to spend 15 minutes directing the driver when the app can be written well to do so. Never had this problem with Uber, not once.

      2) The Ola app sends incessant SMS messages for everything. It's a pain to keep switching between Ola and the SMS app and putting together information

      3) Uber's app provides for a very smooth experience. Ola doesn't update driver's position very often. Uber does.

      4) Apps can be fixed, at least in theory. But philosophies are harder: I had one very bad experience with an Ola driver. I once had an issue with an Uber driver as well. I wrote to Ola and to Uber about these. Uber responded within half a day, and fixed the problem to my satisfaction on the first try. Ola, on the other hand, about 21 emails later, is yet to even offer a solution. Some of those emails were downright incoherent. Some were incompetent (they kept getting the basic details wrong over and over again - it's an email, read it, dammit!. Some were not very respectful or polite.

      5) Almost all drivers I spoke to who had driven for both vastly preferred Uber, and only turn on their Ola phone if they are not getting rides via Uber.

      TL;DR: Uber's service is a lot smoother currently. Ola's "Indian" level of customer service might do them in.

    4. Re:Uber will succeed in India by perryizgr8 · · Score: 1

      And Ola forces you to either pre-pay or pay in cash before you get out of the car. It's a big hassle. Uber is miles better. You can pay whenever you want with a credit card, or you can pre-pay. No cash, no hassle at the end of your ride. Also, the app accepts destination coordinates. I literally don't need to interact with the driver at all.

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  6. expand it is services? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's means "it is" is just about the simplest thing I can imagine. Why do you lackwits never get it right?

    1. Re:expand it is services? Really? by ThatAblaze · · Score: 1

      Your first sentence there is awkward and could badly use a conjunction word after the quotes. Why do you grammar trolls never get your grammar right?

    2. Re:expand it is services? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really. Show your work.

    3. Re:expand it is services? Really? by robi5 · · Score: 1

      The GP AC hasn't written the summary though, only a modest, 0 scored post. I think the its vs it's is beaten to death to the extent that mixing it up shows such deliberate ignorance on the part of the editors that it almost borders with trolling. Guess what happens if you grammar troll the readership. Some of them will bite and some others like you will call _them_ trolls.

    4. Re:expand it is services? Really? by ThatAblaze · · Score: 1

      This site is community moderated. Most of the article descriptions are given a quick read-though and then left verbatim the way the submitter wrote it. Anyone who tries to teach the internet at large about the finer points of grammar is swimming up stream.

      I also reject your assertion that critics should be held to a lower standard than content creators.

    5. Re: expand it is services? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are maybe 10 one-paragraph summaries posted per day. As a courtesy toward readers, I'd expect the cursory attention from the editors of a commercial site that would be sufficient to fix up at least the most egregious grammatical errors or typos before tens of thousands read them. It's around 5 minutes of work per day.

    6. Re:expand it is services? Really? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Most of the article descriptions are given a quick read-though and then left verbatim the way the submitter wrote it.

      [citation needed]

      Most submissions I know anything about, which is to say both mine and those which submitters have commented on, have been edited.

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    7. Re:expand it is services? Really? by ThatAblaze · · Score: 1

      Interesting.

      Ok, so it's a small sample size, but every article I've submitted has appeared exactly as I typed it.

    8. Re:expand it is services? Really? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Ok, so it's a small sample size, but every article I've submitted has appeared exactly as I typed it.

      Well, it's possible that you made higher-quality submissions than I did, or that you just tripped over lazy editors. It would be interesting to have some actual statistics on this, but hahaha. I mean, the editors are already lazy.

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  7. Re:Good business by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    And create an Uber cartel that simply outbids the taxi drivers for government... ah.. services... yeah... that's it

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  8. Re:India is for cows. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I like that you try to keep it on-topic, it's a refreshing change from the usual pointless first posts.

  9. Re:Good business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You would rather have India's economy not receive 1bi in investment then? ok.

  10. Re:Good business by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    All depends where the money goes...

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  11. Re:Good business by willworkforbeer · · Score: 0

    All depends where the money goes...

    Good News... per the headline, and TFS, and the related article, it's going to India.

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  12. Re:Good business by fustakrakich · · Score: 0

    Yeah? Whose pockets?

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  13. 995 million of which... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    goes toward public education about how rape isn't something acceptable.

  14. Re:Rape service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    THIS.

  15. $1 Billlion in exactly what? by diga33 · · Score: 1

    They are going to invest $1 billion in exactly what? The app? Advertising? Under the table payments to government officials? Considering that they don't have a fleet looks a bit exaggerated.

    1. Re:$1 Billlion in exactly what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      H1B Uber drivers...

  16. Re:Good business by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    And create an Uber cartel that simply outbids the taxi drivers for government

    Except that ride-sharing is not a cartel. There are no big barriers to entry. Even the "network effect" that allows, say, eBay to dominate auctions, doesn't apply as much to ride-sharing, since both drivers and riders can easily switch between multiple services on a ride-by-ride basis.

  17. Re:Good business by fustakrakich · · Score: 0

    Soon all drivers in the country will require an 'Uber' certification and medallion issued by the state. I'm sure the price will remain reasonable.

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  18. Good for India by trawg · · Score: 1

    Step 1: wait for Uber to come to town
    Step 2: let them build some momentum and drop some cash investing in scaling up
    Step 3: act outraged when cab companies complain and promise to shut them down
    Step 4: drop a lot of fines on them to absorb even more of that phat US VC cash
    Step 5: repeat step 4 until the taxi companies, Uber or citizens force your hand into either legitimising them or actually banning them.

    This seems to be the tactic of my home town (Brisbane, Australia). Last I saw we'd fined Uber $1.7m, all while pretending they can't be stopped and letting them operate (they just announced they're hiring more staff).

    They'll have to provide a better licensing framework at some point - where I am now in Columbus, OH they seem to have a great one - but in the meantime it seems their plan is just to keep fining them to see if they're going to blink first.

    As a Brisbaner I love the idea of us taking all that money. As someone that actually wants to go to places though and not be at the mercy of the taxi companies, I hope they negotiate soon and build a framework that takes into account this new age we live in.

  19. $1 BIllion by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

    And they still can't pay their drivers decently.

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  20. How does Uber in India work at all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does Uber in India work at all?

    There are Rickshaw's everywhere and they cost almost nothing. Taxi's are also all over the place, trivial to hire and cost almost nothing.
    Just what is Uber going to bring to the market that isn't already there? How could they stop a local Indian company from having it's own ride share app?
    What are they competing over? The margins are so low on transportation in India it's almost impossible to imagine how they will make revenue.

    I'm amazed how they would convince someone to give them VC funding for Uber in India. India is already awash in almost every service industry imaginable at incredibly low prices. I honestly don't see how they calculate it's worth competing on such low margins.

  21. Microsoft by Altanar · · Score: 1

    In a probably not unrelated event, Microsoft has agreed to invest $100 million into Uber.

  22. Cue the foreign taxi driver jokes by Deep+Esophagus · · Score: 1

    Soon, stand-up comedians in Mumbai will be complaining: "Have you tried getting a taxi lately? They're all like imitates midwestern American accent 'Howdy, folks, my name is Jim-Bob. Where can I take y'all today?' You can't understand a word they say!"

  23. Uber or anything else by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am born and living in India.
    I have concerns that Uber will do any progressive business in India.
    Already the conventional taxi drivers/owners are against Uber.