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Fourth Bangladeshi Blogger Murdered
An anonymous reader writes: In May we discussed news that three bloggers in Bangladesh had been targeted for brutal killings in recent months over what they wrote online. Now, the local branch of Al-Qaeda is claiming responsibility for a new victim, blogger Niloy Chakrabarti. "The journalist had contributed to the humanist blogging platform Mukto-Mona. His posts often were critical of Islam. Mukto-Mona was established by another blogger—Avijit Roy, who was murdered in Bangladesh in February." His murder was as ghastly as the previous three — six men broke into his apartment with machetes. Rights groups are condemning the killings and demanding that the government put a stop to them. "There is little doubt that these especially brutal killings are designed to sow fear and to have a chilling effect on free speech. This is unacceptable."
Depending upon how one reads the first commandment " take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Another case of "how dare you call Muslims violent! We'll show you how violent Muslims can be!"
Does anyone think that a Code of Conduct would help avoid situations like this?
It has been noted that a code of conduct is an important tool for creating healthy and productive communities.
The Left loves Islam (atheism is really just the name for their hate of christians) and they love blogging their useless opinions to find people with similar views.
Bullshit. Stop spreading your FUD and lumping "left" together as if they all thought alike. They no more think alike than those on the right do.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Generally they just try to ignore Islam. One thing missing in any Islamic country is hollyweird style liberals. I don't have any such problem though. In a choice between the buttbuddies in hollyweird and the nutcases like ISIS and Al Qaeda I have to pick the liberals. They're just disgusting while the Islamic nutjobs are an active threat. As far apart as the left and right may be in America we have far more in common with each other than with the Sharia lovers.
Whatever it is these countries make that we need, we should end our reliance on their exports and let these misguided ideologies implode. Sometimes things have to get worse before they can get better.
atheism is really just the name for their hate of christians
Nonsense. I'm atheist and dislike all religions, though I confess I have a special hatred for Islam in particular, given the disgusting behavior of a small minority of its adherents and the silence and blame-deflecting of most of its adherents.
Unfortunately, it's true that a lot of leftists cry about "Islamophobia" and that's too bad. Islam is a fascist ideology diametrically opposed to everything leftists say they hold dear, so I really can't understand how they can maintain the cognitive dissonance.
Bravo, as a liberal Christian I couldn't have said it better myself.
Well, before we get all bent out of shape and waving the First Amendment around (hint: it's in Bangladesh, there is no First Amendment there), let's all remember what our President had to say about the situation.
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam."
-- President Obama, addressing the United Nations General Assembly
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
There is more than 1% difference between right and left in USA?
Are you really sure about that??
The Left loves.....blogging their useless opinions to find people with similar views.
Conservatives love blogging a lot.
Bloviating is a human tradition that knows no political parties (a couple of those blogs look reasonably good, too).
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
2.52 !
The Republicans who want to ban evolution from schools, kill abortus doctors and who will never allow an atheist to become the President are closer to liberals than Sharia lovers? Give me a break...
Tell every country, that if they allow ISIS members to remain free inside their borders that we will start dropping tactical nukes over their country until all the ISIS members are dead. Once all the countries have evicted the ISIS members, round them up and drop them off on the Bikini Atol, then execute one last nuclear test on their asses. Problem solved. Oh, and yes, obligatory 'nuke em from orbit, it's the only way to be sure."
Wow, you really are confused by your Christian persecution syndrome. The "Left," aka normal rational people, are fine with both Christians and Muslims. They're not fine with either trying to set up a theocracy.
Atheism is just one part of understanding that the supernatural is imaginary, which seems to send religious people off the deep end. It has nothing to do with your feelings of persecution.
The Left loves Islam
Only in the sense that they think it's unfairly demonized.
(atheism is really just the name for their hate of christians)
Rather the only reason an atheist ever becomes visible is when they're resisting the influence of the pre-dominant religion of their culture.
and they love blogging their useless opinions to find people with similar views.
Which is somehow inferior to posting your useless opinion to troll people with different views?
They must feel confused about who to cheer for in these murderous events.
Nah, I think your opinions are the ones with a monopoly on confusion.
I stole this Sig
If a life manual needs to be interpreted, and if interpretations range from peace to burning in hell for eternity, then I think we can all agree that the manual is very poorly written. Why doesn't this ring alarm bells in Christians' minds? Aren't they one bit open to the possibility that they got tricked into believing in a book full of made up stuff?
An interesting choice of word: "islamophobia", i.e. an irrational fear of Islam. Personally that belief leaves me with a mix of disdain and rational fear. Read the qur'an. Read what Islam's prominent and well respected scholars have to say about the right interpretation of its laws. Look at what is going on in every country where Islam is a mainstream religion. Listen to what so-called moderate preachers teach followers in western mosques. We should not fear, judge or condemn every muslim for their faith; like us, most of them are decent folk who just want to get on with their lives. But looking at it as a religious and political system, there's plenty to fear from Islam.
Starting with fear of erosion of our freedoms. Here in Europe, it is no longer safe to criticize Islam; those who do need fear retribution from fanatics as well as legal prosecution. There's even talk of blasphemy laws, in national as well as the European parliaments.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
Unfortunately, it's true that a lot of leftists cry about "Islamophobia" and that's too bad. Islam is a fascist ideology diametrically opposed to everything leftists say they hold dear, so I really can't understand how they can maintain the cognitive dissonance.
Leftists have the strange, even incomprehensible ability, to recognize that two people who both claim to be Muslim may be different, even radically different from each other, in often surprising ways.
It's hard to explain. It's like they'd think that not all Christians, Atheists, or Blacks are exactly alike.
Just make the middle east into a giant fucking blast crater already. Only way to fix the region.
The Republicans who want to ban evolution from schools, kill abortus doctors and who will never allow an atheist to become the President are closer to liberals than Sharia lovers? Give me a break...
Right, because they are representative of "Republicans" enough for someone like you to say that's what that party is all about are just like people who vote Democrat, but who are espouse pure, confiscatory communism or burning down medical research facilities are representative of "Democrats" enough to say that's what that party is all about. Right? Right. Sure.
The difference is that, unlike ISIS, there aren't tens of thousands of insane anti-vaccine lefties (or righties, whatever - they both exist) rounding up school nurses and lopping their heads off for YouTube videos. There aren't squads of militant atheists burning Unitarians (or Buddhists or anyone else) alive in cages in Ohio. There aren't fiscal conservatives planting IEDs along school bus routes to kill dozens of people at a time to show how upset they are that some school districts have officials who write contracts with corrupt public employee unions. There aren't "occupy" groups with enough gumption to do much more than be persistently annoying about the fact they want to shut down businesses of which they disapprove (as opposed to shooting RPGs into the windows of those office buildings).
No, there's a huge, huge difference between they way people debate and go about resolving their differences in the US, than in places like much of the middle east. And the theocratic thugs who want to run the whole world in that model would be happy to kill you for disagreeing with them. See the difference? I think you're wrong, but I'd buy you a beer to talk about it. They'd kill you for having a beer because Allah doesn't like beer.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
You seem hateful.
No way to reform this stupid death cult. Only way is to leave it and hope those still clinging to it don't kill you for it-- which is a real possibility for the majority of Muslims. A really unfortunate religion to be born under.. Worse, its the #1 religion promulgated in prisons-- as if violent felons need a religion that preaches violence.
No US politician likes Muslims. They all are pro-Israel, both the Dems and Reps, even as Israel commits what is essentially aphartheid throughout the region.
That's the big question to me: if the govt is run by closet fundamentalists, or they are so weak militarily and/or politically that they do not feel they can rein in these radicals, of course the perps will never be brought to justice. Similarly to Pakistan..no will to fix the issues underlying.
I'd like to think most Christians would loathe someone like you.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Get a grip idiot. The vast majority of Republicans don't support killing abortion doctors and a significant portion actually support abortion. That's like saying all Democrats think one guy marrying another guy is normal. As for not allowing an atheist to become President I'm pretty sure that's already happened more than once although President Obama may be a closet Muslim I strongly suspect he's his own God. Hell, the majority of women who got an abortion last year consider themselves to be Christians (combined Protestant and Catholic). Don't run around spouting false bullshit. Only the lunatic fringe of the left and right are really that different. Of course you sound like a lunatic.
And it's the media that constantly pushes our differences and tries to incite rage and anger against one side or another. All in the name of ratings. There are a lot of things in society I don't like but I've never thought of going to pull a trigger on an abortion doctor or a gay rights advocate plugging gay marriage. That's the kind of thing that turns a society into a cluster fuck like Syria is today.
There is nothing contradictory in defending someone when they're being attacked, and opposing them when they're doing the attacking.
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
You might not have, but there are the few that do and use their "holy book" to justify it.
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
Seems like you are lumping all muslims into the "mad nutters of ISIS" category. the majority of muslims are just like the majority of christians and jews whose religion is Abrahamic based, just fine and reasonable. Even though anyone who believes in gods etc are deluded, they can still be reasonable human beings.
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
You morons still don't understand what Islam is. You morons therefore still won't lay the blame where it belongs, which is Islam. Climate Change, Obama not being a Muslim, You not being an Idiot, and plethora of other causes you'll completely embrace without a shred of Historical knowledge or present day knowledge- because you(atheists) are F'ing cowards at a systemic level- no matter the time, place, or Civilization you inhabit without making better..
They're beheading Christians(The Founders of Western Civilization) and Kufar(Yezidi/Zoroastrians) by the mass graveload, and not a peep from you b|tches. But one of your own drops in the wilderness, and you suddenly take notice. Well, Fuck you. You fucking cowards.
http://www.politicalislam.com/
This guy who writes for this site doesn't even bother to look at it, as he's an internet n00b.
But what he's written about Islam, and it's beliefs, it's something everyone should pay attention
to. I don't know about you, but when there has been over 1400 years of one religion killing
and enslaving anyone else who doesn't look at god the same way as you do, I'd think one
would feel uncomfortable about having them around. But hey, shock surprise, the Jewish
religion is exactly the same. They just don't go around killing everyone, like Muslims, but
their religious texts say the same thing. Anyone who isn't a jew, is no more than an animal.
Funny how we have 2 religious groups that hate each other so much, having so much in
common...
... think that non-whites are 'victims' - but ONLY the non-whites who have so far successfully INVADED white countries. They are apparently 'minorities', even though white people are now less than 12% of the world population, and falling every year, and aren't allowed to simply have OUR OWN COUNTRIES any more...
Most white idiots here think that telling the truth about Islam (i.e. saying bad things about it), is a 'hate' crime.
www.prophetofdoom.net
No, sorry, that no longer flies. The 'but there are so many good ones' argument is invalid.
When a wacko Christian does something wrong and claims his faith, Christians stand up and condemn that person. Just a week ago a nutcase Jew stabbed people at random at the gay parade. His community condemned that act and explicitly mentioned that their own fate was to blame.
No such thing happens with islam. Every day atrocities are committed in name of islam. There's a billion muslims out there who could stand up and show disgust for the atrocities. Doesn't happen. In fact, a disturbing number of young muslims agree with what IS does and are looking for ways to support or even join them. Until that big majority of silent muslims stand up and condemn their extremists, I lump them all together as followers of a very dangerous ideology that should be fought.
To Terminate, or not to Terminate, that's the question - SCSIROB
Darn it!
You can consult the etymology of Atheism in any good English dictionary. The fact that you think it violates "language, history, or critical thought" really reflects poorly upon yourself... but you knew that which is why you post as coward.
An interesting choice of word: "islamophobia", i.e. an irrational fear of Islam. Personally that belief leaves me with a mix of disdain and rational fear. Read the qur'an. Read what Islam's prominent and well respected scholars have to say about the right interpretation of its laws. Look at what is going on in every country where Islam is a mainstream religion.
The difference between christianity and islam in this regard is simply one of degree, not nature! The only reason Christianity isn't worse today is because of tireless efforts by those who would free you rather than enslaving you; Christianity was much worse than Islam, but it's lost most of its popularity. For some reason, Islam is still growing. I really don't have a theory as to why.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Seems like you are lumping all muslims into the "mad nutters of ISIS" category. the majority of muslims are just like the majority of christians and jews whose religion is Abrahamic based, just fine and reasonable.
You have a different definition of reasonable than I do. There's nothing reasonable about putting yourself on a pedestal because of your beliefs. It's not surprising, either, but it's not based on reason. It's based on emotion.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
The Bible is not much better, but it's less obvious that it is so. The point was that the Qur'an has an obvious readability issue because people read the same thing and one group use it to justify peace and another group use it to justify brutal killings.
I never said all, I thought "The R that X" would obviously be a subset. Apparently not. The poster of the comment I replied to is the lunatic for your information, because he can't make the distinction which you make when it comes to muslims, even ISIS.
Yes, that's it, just label someone you disagree with as "hateful". Why did you even open your mouth in the first place if you didn't want to be challenged?
If the 'general population' weren't such fcuking sheeple - waiting on dysfunctional governments for justice -- perhaps, they would be equally ruthless in handing out swift justice like in the case of these uncivilized murderous Islamic fanatics. Heck, they are the majority - yet the sheeple just sit back and accept these endless acts of TERROR...often backed and financed by our allies. It's gotta be the fluroride and all the overpriced junk food that's creating spineless, compliant sheep all over the world. I weep for Humanity. Judgement day is coming soon, and then all Hell's gonna break loose. Now...who was it again that said "death to tyrants is obedience to god"??
There's a difference between attacking Muslims and attacking Islam. Islamophobia is a misnomer, as it's often used to refer to the former. There's nothing wrong with attacking or fearing Islam itself.
No such thing happens with islam. Every day atrocities are committed in name of islam. There's a billion muslims out there who could stand up and show disgust for the atrocities. Doesn't happen.
Ever? Never ever? Not once?
In fact, a disturbing number of young muslims agree with what IS does and are looking for ways to support or even join them.
There are a disturbing number of young people of any number of faiths looking to engage in violence and oppression. Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, whatever.
Until that big majority of silent muslims stand up and condemn their extremists, I lump them all together as followers of a very dangerous ideology that should be fought.
What do we do with you once we show that they have, and you've been deaf to their voices?
Do you need hearing aids?
http://abc7.com/news/local-muslim-leader-condemns-chattanooga-shooting/857712/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/17/nashville-islamic-leaders-condemn-chattanooga-rampage/30293567/
http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2015/07/huntsville_eid_2015.html
Geezuz, could you be a bigger fu_king retard.
That's the point ScentCone (795499) appeared to be making. There's a few - which is too many - but it's much better than a lot.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
I'm not sure it's the lack of popularity that makes the difference. I suspect it's the absence of anything like the reformation.
Had there been a Martin al-Luther or a John bin-Calvin things might have been different.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Are you kidding me? Have you ever heard of the Inquisition? The Salem witch trials? The freaking Crusades?
If a life manual needs to be interpreted, and if interpretations range from peace to burning in hell for eternity, then I think we can all agree that the manual is very poorly written. Why doesn't this ring alarm bells in Christians' minds? Aren't they one bit open to the possibility that they got tricked into believing in a book full of made up stuff?
I like how you flip it around towards Christians like that's supposed mean something. Of course, what you say is as correct, as is what GP said. But to be clear, all this points towards the folly that all religions have; justifying murder/atrocities in the name of their fictional god.
Actually, I agree with this for both Islam and Christianity.
I suspect it's the absence of anything like the reformation.
The reformation is the only reason we still have christianity. Without that, they would have been hunted down like the jews.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
If that we're true, then the media would have no hesitation labeling hate crime committed by white guys as terrorism. I see a lot of mass shootings shot up in the states by white nationalists, using Christian ideology to justify their actions against women, African Americans, and Jews.
Someone might blame those on the period rather than the religion. Extremist Islam exists in 2015.
Actually, I agree with this for both Islam and Christianity.
Join with me now friends, in a celebration of religion, the source of all morality, without which people will just go around murdering each other.
wait.......what?
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
1) R.I.P. Microsoft Tech Support FTFA
2) Your religion seems to be anti-Christian. It's not news how this turns out for you. Maybe Google search the Bible "screaming and gnashing of teeth".
An AC modded up to 3-Insightful for an anti-Christian spew comment on an Indian blogger-death-by-machetes story?
hehe.. the mainstream retardation is reaching even the technical-literate.
[Calling ducks ducks is a good idea at all times.]
Ok I will bite one time..
Aren't they one bit open to the possibility that they got tricked into believing in a book full of made up stuff?
Christians will not believe a damn thing false by definition. eg. open a 2 page hypothetical book. Page 1 says "you were born". Turn the page. Page 2 says "you will die". You don't know who wrote it, you just found it. You recognize these things to be true. (some people still won't agree) Do you disregard it when it's obviously true? What if one of them weren't true but the other was... would you discern and disregard only the false, or throw both pages out? (tip: they are true)
Now take Scripture. Many pages, and you know who wrote it. You recognize these things to be true. Oh. No shit. Scripture also says you were born and it also says you will die. Go figure. A couple billion people on Earth get it even right now.
Why doesn't this ring alarm bells in Christians' minds?
Because Christians laugh at your alarm bells. Your world is weak as fuck without Christ. At the most you are maybe an intermittent Earth decoration or whatever.
You got modded 3 Insightful, for literally not being able to handle the truth. Insightful, for not being able to handle the truth. Again, insightful... for not being able... to handle... the truth.
Not everybody can understand.
http://biblehub.com/matthew/7-13.htm
http://biblehub.com/proverbs/31-6.htm
http://biblehub.com/proverbs/1-7.htm
http://biblehub.com/proverbs/9-10.htm
http://biblehub.com/john/14-6.htm
Seen Jon Jones' tattoo? Look for it.
lmfao: I shit you not... captcha: martyrs
God is. http://biblehub.com/ephesians/4-6.htm
https://imgur.com/YJC75Ix
The difference between christianity and islam in this regard is simply one of degree, not nature! The only reason Christianity isn't worse today is because of tireless efforts by those who would free you rather than enslaving you; Christianity was much worse than Islam, but it's lost most of its popularity
It's not right to think of it in terms of "Islam" and "Christianity." The proper dichotomy to recognize is between "modern thought" and "medieval thought." The Middle East is stuck in an era where it's ok to kill your political enemies, where men are above women, where the value of freedom of speech has not been recognized.
Christianity did all kinds of bad things, but now Europeans and Americans have largely recognized the value of rule of law, freedom of religion, etc. It's not about religion, it's about a region of the world that hasn't learned those things yet. When they do, they will be fine, even keeping their religion.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Religions of every type are nothing more than a control mechanism used by the few to control the many. Somehow religion has been elevated to such a status that any criticism of religious belief is forbidden under the pain of death. Religions of every denomination have been used throughout history to justify the very worst of human behaviors. Religion has always been just one more way to introduce divisiveness into an already fractured humanity.
Oh man, Allahu is just *so* fuckin akbar, isn't he?
Ignorant savages.
pr0n - keeping monitor glass spotless since 1981.
But Atheists are some of the dumbest fucks I've ever met, so it sense that you have no grasp of language, history, or critical thought
Really? That's what you want to end with? Have you seen the multitude of legions of "followers" and "faithful" over the history of mankind? Conservatively, it's like a 1:10k ratio.
Hah!!! Every US president since Bush has been virulently anti-Israel. James Baker was famous for his 'Fuck the Jews' statement, and he ran Bush 41's foreign policy. Bill Clinton put continuous pressure on Israel, and sent James Carville down there to defeat Netenyahu. Bush 43 was the president who recognized a Palestinian state, ignoring Israel's objections. Obama has been in bed w/ Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood and Iran. Hilary was the candidate who first came up w/ the idea of recognizing a Pali state. On the GOP side, most of the candidates are in bed w/ Muzzies - Trump, Bush, Gramm, Perry, Fiorina, Christie,... The only ones who probably are not are Ted Cruz and Jindal. I had hopes about Scott Walker, until he put his foot in his mouth about the Arabs who want the US to play a bigger role there.
A phobia is an irrational fear. One can have a phobia of butterflies, but not wasps. Similarly, one can have a phobia of Jews, or Hindus, or Buddhists, or Shintos, or even Christians. One can't have a phobia of Muslims.
Seems like you are lumping all muslims into the "mad nutters of ISIS" category. the majority of muslims are just like the majority of christians and jews whose religion is Abrahamic based, just fine and reasonable. Even though anyone who believes in gods etc are deluded, they can still be reasonable human beings.
There have been polls out by Pew on Muslims in a number of countries - both in the Islamic empire and the non-Islamic world. Most Muslims endorse Islamic supremacist views, and are supportive of Jihadi campaigns. What's even more revealing - even at a personal level, they are pretty hostile to the idea of their children marrying outside Islam. Which is a major reason why 90+% of all honor killings happen among Muslims.
Also, some people do try to distinguish b/w Muslims and Islam, but it's a worthless distinction to make. The only reason we worry about Muzzies so much is that there are 1.8 billion of them. If there had been only as many Muslims as there are Jains, nobody would have sweated it so much. So Islam is the threat that it is b'cos 1/4 of the world's population adheres to it
Wrong
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
I believe that the majority of Muslims are just like Christians in that they just want to live in peace and get along with their neighbors. Unfortunately while the Christian Bible states that if you don't believe you'll go to hell when you die it appears far too many of the radical muslims interpret their scripture to say "if they don't believe then kill them all and send them to hell." It's impossible to get along with those people but since they are Muslim then the non-crazy Muslims take their side when it comes to a shoot out with any non Muslim country. That's a bad thing because it's one thing to let God decide what's what in the afterlife and it's entirely another thing to decide it all for God here in this life. The later causes blood to flow and lots of innocents to die in the crossfire.
By whom? Generally religions are hunted down by other religions.
Atheists, by their very nature, are unlikely to partake in holy wars. Also, they were pretty rare in 1517.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
You do realise that over here in Europe, we have *Christian Socialist* parties in a number of countries, don't you? Just thought I'd ask...
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
"There's a billion muslims out there who could stand up and show disgust for the atrocities. " - bear in mind these billions are generally subdued by various factions who enforce extreme sharia law so they are not going to put their head above the rafters like this blogger did. we have plenty of muslim leaders here in the Uk condemning these nutters.
... don;t see many christian organisations voicing support for personal freedom of choice with regards abortion and gay marriage...
"When a wacko Christian does something wrong and claims his faith, Christians stand up and condemn that person. " westborough church is still running
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
"There's nothing reasonable about putting yourself on a pedestal because of your beliefs. " the ones that do that are the ones that fit into the unreasonable sector as far as i'm concerned, the majority tend to keep their head down and live and let live. Minorities are always louder and appear to be a bigger number than they really are.
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
Are you really going to get a reasonable poll of muslims who like under the yoke? Most of these muslims live under threat of being maimed or killed by the self-appointed or government sanctioned sharia police to keep them subdued so you are not going to get a truthful answer in case the pollsters are working for the government. Its like saying all germans were nazies because they were german.
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
So your response to the claim that one book is full of crap is that one other book is full of crap, too. We already knew that. How is it relevant here?
Ezekiel 23:20
You're a liberal Christian who dislikes all religions?
Ezekiel 23:20
in defending someone when they're being attacked
This "islamophobia" thing attacks Islam. I didn't know that Islam qualified as "someone" instead of "something".
Ezekiel 23:20
Several people are "a big majority" for you? Not to mention that opposing one specific act doesn't make them any less crazy. That craziness makes them have undesirable ideas on average. Nobody ever claimed that it makes them have undesirable ideas regarding every single issue.
Ezekiel 23:20
"There's nothing reasonable about putting yourself on a pedestal because of your beliefs. " the ones that do that are the ones that fit into the unreasonable sector as far as i'm concerned, the majority tend to keep their head down and live and let live.
No, their belief system tells them that they are better than other people, they get to go to heaven when people who don't believe what they believe are going to hell. That kind of unfounded discriminatory bullshit thinking leads to bullshit people making bullshit decisions. And remember, life in the western world is predicated upon the suffering of others. There's nothing "live and let live" about keeping your head down and living. It's live and let die.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Say what you want, it's a bunch of barbarians butchering civilization.
Please, stop talking so general, if you want to state something, base it on details. I was born in Iran, and although I'm not a muslim, I have a good knowledge of what Islam is, and what its supporters want, whether normal, moderate or extremist. Islam is not a religion that tends towards terrorism, in fact, there is no order to take lives in the whole Quran. There is only one condition that killing is allowed: when the other party is attacking your city, your people. This is literally Real Islam. What you see in extremist groups, is exactly what extremist groups of other religions and parties do, they forge their own interpretation, and talk about it like it is obvious. And the fact that terrorism has become so widely seen in muslim world, is because of the capital. The flow of capital, in an economy that is based on selling oil, and not production, leads to such actions. It is not like "he is producing something and getting wealth, I can do the same and be wealthy", it is like "he has the oil, he is reach, and he doesn't let me have it, so I should get it by force." and don't forget the constant humiliation the European countries and U.S. have towards muslims. Whatever they say, the overall view is similar to barbarian. It creates a lot of hate, anger. And the Europe and U.S. aren't that innocent in the crisis that we face in muslim world. They are a part of it, please study the history of Al-Qaida, ISIS, or any other terrorist group that you want, you can see how they have invested in it. Besides all of it, what you say about muslims being silent on what is being done in the name of Islam is simply not right. Come to Iran, ask anybody, I'm pretty sure that you can't even find a single person who thinks ISIS or Al-qaida people are muslims. NOT A SINGLE PERSON. And the same goes in most of the muslim world: What you are considering your test group is not a fair test group, it is selected from a subset that live in U.S. or Europe, and also the ones that are bold enough to express their radical thoughts.
Until it's too late and we have no choice but to eliminate anyone who's religious, otherwise the human race will vanish from the Universe.
No such thing happens with islam. Every day atrocities are committed in name of islam. There's a billion muslims out there who could stand up and show disgust for the atrocities. Doesn't happen.
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Like fuck it doesn't happen. Get your head out of your ass.
Such a movement is unlikely, using pure reason alone, to convince enough people to join to give it any chance of success; "live and let live" is an appealing argument.
It might might have an outside chance if it was branded properly - symbology, titles, legends, an us-vs-them narrative, funny clothes and maybe just a bit of hocus-pocus for good measure.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
No, the polls in question included Muslims in Western countries - it was a worldwide poll. Plus they were anonymous even in the Muslim countries where the surveys were taken, so yes, I do expect them to state honestly whether they like the supremacist movements of their religion or not. There were a good percentage of people who approved of honor killings, believed that Jews are behind the world's problems, etc. So no, the majority of Muslims do not believe what we wish them to believe
So, what's Islam (or individual Muslims) going to do to me? I live in the US, and the risk of Islamist terrorism is far lower than other risks I disregard. I'm not afraid of them. I deplore what many Muslims are doing, and want them stopped, but I'm not in danger and I don't fear them.
Now, if I lived in a Muslim country, I'd feel threatened, but I don't.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Well said Sir, well said :)
Violence in the name of Christianity is hard to define if going by the New Testament. The Quran goes in the opposite direction getting more violent as it progresses. The Old Testament has Deuteronomy and Leviticus which are pretty violent, but the New Testament has Jesus' teachings.
Even if you don't believe in religions you can easily see the Bible "evolved" and we are left with the New Testament. The Quran's last marching orders are violent, if it stopped at "You have your religion and I have mine" we'd be much better off.
But you can thank Quran abrogration Surah 2:106 for all this mess.