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The IoT, the MinnowBoard, and How They Fit Into the Universe (Video)

The IoT is becoming more pervasive partly because processor costs are dropping. So are bandwidth costs, even if your ISP isn't sharing those savings with you. Today's interviewee, Mark Skarpness, is "the Director of Embedded Software in the Open Source Technology Center at Intel Corporation," which is an amazing mouthful of a title. What it means is that he works to extend Intel's reach into Open Source communities, and is also aware of how hardware and software price drops -- and bandwidth price drops at the "wholesale" level -- mean that if you add a dash of IPV6, even lowly flip-flops might have their own IPs one day.

This video interview is a little less than six minutes long, while the text transcript covers a 17 minute conversation between Mark Skarpness and Slashdot's Timothy Lord. The video can be considered a "meet Mark" thing, and watching it will surely give you the idea that yes, this guy knows his stuff, but for more info about the spread of the IoT and how the Open Hardware MinnowBoard fits into the panoply of developer tools for IoT work, you'll have to read the transcript.

25 comments

  1. it has a heat sink by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

    intel thinks they can break into this market with a product that has a heat sink?

    They are competing against vendors like TI and ST whose processors run for months on coin cells.

    1. Re:it has a heat sink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude. IoT. Minnowboard. 3D PRINTING!

    2. Re:it has a heat sink by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      why can't you run a 3-d printer from a normal computer? why do you need something special? it's certainly not a low power thing.

    3. Re:it has a heat sink by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Why would you attach such a huge, heavy and power-hungry anchor to something like a 3D printer?

      A lot of 3D printers are autonomous and print directly from SD/microSD cards these days.

    4. Re:it has a heat sink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The minnowboard uses an intel atom cpu, which is x86. Of course it needs a heatsink. It does not need a cooling fan though.

      I own a minnowboard max. I use it in place of an RPi in a small HTPC build I am tinkering on. The Max has 4X the ram of the RPi, more actual cores, faster silicon, an actual sata port, and a number of other fun perks.

      the problem with minnowboard (and the max) is that the documentation is shite. absolute shite. The wiki claims it is 5v, but this is wrong. It is really 5.5v, and a regulated 5v source undervolts the board, and it wont power on. Other problems, are that it is pure UEFI, with no legacy bios support (stock, there is a coreboot module for it if you want to tinker), meaning you are more limited in your OS choices.

      It's a pretty powerful little toy for the size of the package. I dont care for putting internet connectivity into a toaster, but it works great as the inside of my HTPC project. Runs KODI/XBMC just fine.

    5. Re:it has a heat sink by wmat · · Score: 1

      Uh, anchor? The Minnowboard is comparable in size to all other boards in it's category.

    6. Re:it has a heat sink by wmat · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure where the 5.5v argument is coming from, as I've never had any problems powering my Minnowboard MAX with a Silverjaw lure attached with an eSATA harddrive and mPCIe wireless card with a 5V power supply.

    7. Re: it has a heat sink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Makers!

    8. Re:it has a heat sink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The poster previous to you probably has problems with voltage drop-out due to the regulator used and the current required by the target board. Problem solved with a higher-current 5V power supply.

    9. Re:it has a heat sink by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      I was replying to FranTaylor who said "why can't you run a 3-d printer from a normal computer?".

      I wouldn't call a Minnowboard a "normal computer".

      And size aside, the power requirements of an Intel Atom can't compare to an Atmel 2560.

    10. Re:it has a heat sink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. I tried a 5v 8amp (yes, 8000ma!) supply. no dice.

      6v 3A supply? works fine.

      I even used a multimeter to evaluate delivered voltage. If current drops much below 5.3v, the board powers off. What you might find is that your 5v source is actually delivering nearly 6v of juice. It is very common for wallwarts to provide higher voltages without load.

      Check yours and see.

  2. Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple makes their own processors, antennas, radios, boards, devices. Why is nobody thinking about them for IoT. I say simply because there are no announcements, rumors, or even speculations of what they could or would make. They already have the network resources too.

    JJ

    1. Re:Apple by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      Apple makes their own processors, antennas, radios, boards, devices. Why is nobody thinking about them for IoT. I say simply because there are no announcements, rumors, or even speculations of what they could or would make. They already have the network resources too.

      JJ

      Apple sells products. They don't sell components. They don't sell products where you need to crack a manual and read for a week before you can get started. They make phones and laptops and watches where you take them out of the box and off you go. IoT is the opposite. It's about building stuff. It's about putting big software in a tiny chip. It's about shaving power requirements down to the minimum with clever low-level design. It's about getting down to the nitty gritty stuff that apple never ever exposes to you.

    2. Re:Apple by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Apple = Steve Jobs
      IoT = Steve Wozniak

    3. Re:Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> It's about putting big software in a tiny chip. It's about shaving power requirements down to the minimum with clever low-level design. It's about getting down to the nitty gritty stuff that apple never ever exposes to you.

      Hmmm. Maybe a division since they meet the standard?

    4. Re:Apple by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      No. As far as cpus go, they might specify customizations from cpu manufacturers, but they do not manufacture their own components. In most cases, those customizations are actually options provided by the manufacturer.

    5. Re:Apple by dougmc · · Score: 1

      They don't sell products where you need to crack a manual and read for a week before you can get started.

      Heh, that's ... interesting.

      You're not wrong, and yet that's exactly what the Apple ][ was. It came with a complete dis-assembly of the 6502 monitor code included in it, for heaven's sake!

      I guess that they've changed somewhat since then ...

  3. Flash ... c'mon Slashdot. by JazzLad · · Score: 2

    So much for Flash being dead.

    --
    "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." - Every fascist, ever
    1. Re:Flash ... c'mon Slashdot. by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      What Flash? I don't have Flash on my system and when I click on the play button the video starts playing.

  4. Moore's law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can not interview an Intel person without Moore's law being mentioned.

  5. Lowly flip-flops? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FTFA:
    "...also aware of how hardware and software price drops -- and bandwidth price drops at the "wholesale" level -- mean that if you add a dash of IPV6, even lowly flip-flops might have their own IPs one day. "
    Lowly flip-flops? If you mean hardware, then I don't think you understand hardware too well. Lowly flip-flops already dominate the digital world. If you mean Obama, then I see what you are saying there.

  6. Flip-flops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...are gay.

  7. The Internet of morons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With the IoT pranksters can turn your dorm lights on and off all night long, shut down your fridge while you sleep or trigger your home's fire alarms, etc. It takes harassing to a new level. Besides, do you want Facebook or the local police, know how many times a day you open your fridge or your toilet flushes? Iot is only a manufacturers need to sell more silicon. And in any case consumers should have a not connected alternative to every item.

  8. The internet of suckers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you really want your house be pranked or sabotaged just because IoT is cool?

  9. Edit transcripts, please by CycleMan · · Score: 1

    Unedited transcripts are always jarring to read. With just a little time invested, the conversation can look much more intelligent. "Now, at what point, is it you know, will it be too cheap to meter, in five or eight years from now?" is just awkward in written prose.