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Canadian Music Industry Faces Competition Complaint Over Public Domain Records

An anonymous reader writes: A Canadian record label specializing in public domain releases has filed a complaint with the Competition Tribunal over alleged anti-competitive conduct by Universal, Sony, and host of other music industry leaders. The complaint tells a fascinating behind-the-scenes tale, with the recording industry doing everything in its powers — including posting false reviews, pressuring distributors, and lobbying for changes to the law — to stop the sale of competing public domain records.

38 comments

  1. Sony created the Rootkit, nothing suprises me now by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 2

    Whatever their business practice.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  2. No sympathy for the major labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How are the alleged actions not at least bordering fraudulent/libelous??

    Hopefully they don't back down in their fight.

    1. Re: No sympathy for the major labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, they will back down. They will have to. The media industry's power, backed by big money, is unassailable.

  3. Re:Sony created the Rootkit, nothing suprises me n by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

    My Bad, used a rootkit, not creating it for the first time.

  4. How to increase piracy rates: by Tyrannicsupremacy · · Score: 3

    Step 1: Do everything the Canadian music industry is doing here. That is all.

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    1. Re:How to increase piracy rates: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually it's a Canadian label suing Sony and a bunch of other, non canadian, publishers.

  5. There is a wikipedia article on this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    and it's called rent seeking

  6. All the Canadian artists to choose from... by phorm · · Score: 4, Funny

    All the Canadian artists to choose from... and somehow they picked Bieber.

    If that doesn't indicate a broken system, I don't know what does!

    1. Re:All the Canadian artists to choose from... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Hey, don't blame us ... blame the people who buy his damned music and concert tickets.

      He lives in LA now, which means he's as much the fault of Americans as Canada.

      Most of us want nothing to do with him or his music.

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    2. Re:All the Canadian artists to choose from... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Do you perhaps mean Beatles? I don't think Beiber was alive long enough to even be recorded crying as a baby,that would have fallen into the public domain.

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    3. Re:All the Canadian artists to choose from... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, she looks about 12.

    4. Re:All the Canadian artists to choose from... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Saw you crying like a baby Coren22 at apk's hands http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    5. Re:All the Canadian artists to choose from... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Hi APK!

      Nice to see you still have that split personality and inconvenient truth avoidance issues.

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    6. Re:All the Canadian artists to choose from... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coren22 we can read you know. You're projecting your issues onto apk and failing like you did in the link posted.

    7. Re:All the Canadian artists to choose from... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK is the psycho asshole that projects his useless malware, and has a delusion he actually wins any argument, poor widdle lunatic.

    8. Re:All the Canadian artists to choose from... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apk + Virustotal show his program's not malware here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... so what are you smoking? Old tennis shoes? He just won this one without trying and won it long ago against morons like you.

    9. Re:All the Canadian artists to choose from... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      You (or do I say we as I have dual citizenship but only visit) also gave us Young and Rush. And KitH but that's a different form of entertainment. Bieber doesn't quite bring it down in to the negatives but it is close. I'm neutral about Shania Twain (spelling?) but I am not fond of goat roping music in general.

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    10. Re:All the Canadian artists to choose from... by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      Well some in the US tried but the white house in typical fashion sat on its hands. ;)

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  7. SHOCKED by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm so shocked that an industry with a decades-long record of shady, unethical, and downright illegal business practices has been found to be engaging in shady, unethical, and downright illegal business practices! Who could have seen that coming??

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    1. Re:SHOCKED by Tyrannicsupremacy · · Score: 0

      Relax, it's just a bunch of canuks in a row over something silly. You can bet that everyone involved is still gonna see each other at next year's moose fondling festival and they'll get along just fine.

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    2. Re:SHOCKED by c · · Score: 2

      Well, in their defence, in this case they've only been accused of engaging in shady, unethical, and downright illegal business practices.

      It's going to take a few years before it's proven, assuming nothing unfortunate happens to the complainant...

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    3. Re:SHOCKED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you seen the sack on that moose? Can you say a pair of basketballs in a grocery sac?

  8. Freedom! by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 3

    It's Canadian.

    Tell the anti-Canadian PMO to stop trying to sell Canadians' right to have reasonable length copyright, and stop selling out culture to foreign corporations!

    (yes, in my day I got Canada Council grants, but not for music)

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    1. Re:Freedom! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The Canadian definition of freedom always has a massive asterisk. Void where you don't like Canadian stuff.

      Lest I be able to enjoy broadcast media without Canadian content, and I be able to buy a CD and put non-Canadian music on it without paying ~~taxes~~ levies to Canadian artists.

    2. Re:Freedom! by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Uh dude, the liberals started the selling out culture to foreign corporations BS. Welcome to the mess they created.

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  9. from the paid dep by nazsco · · Score: 1

    and apparently paying slash dot to not mention the name of said public domain only record label?

    1. Re:from the paid dep by avgjoe62 · · Score: 1

      I know it goes against all that /. holds holy, but if your read TFA you would find the name - Stargrove Entertainment - at the top of the second paragraph.

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  10. Re:Sony created the Rootkit, nothing suprises me n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yep, and those most harmed by it were their legit customers.
    That is one of the reasons I don't buy anything with a Sony logo on it.

    Anyone who buys anything from Sony is supporting organized crime and Sony will eventually screw them over.

  11. Is it really public domain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it is really public domain, why would a mechanical license be needed at all? Perhaps the song is out of copyright, but the performance is not?

  12. At least Canada has a music public domain by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 3, Informative

    OK, yes I get that Canada is trying to change the law to extend copyright, but at least Canada, the EU, Japan and others actually have public domain music. I've mentioned this before and it's worth mentioning again I think. Did you know that thanks to the decision in Capitol Records vs. Naxos that in the USA it appears that nothing ever recorded is in the public domain in the USA right now? I'm not talking about song writing or music publishing, where older songs are indeed in the US public domain. I'm saying that every performance recorded from Edison on to the present age is still under copyright thanks to this court decision. Basically what happened is that Naxos tried to sneak a late 1930s classic music recording into the US market via their historical reissue CD label. The only problem was that in the US the performance was not only clearly still under copyright, the performance in question was owned in the US by Capitol Records and they had a CD on the market of it. Naxos got caught doing something they shouldn't have and rather than give in and admit their error, they tried to justify by arguing that an unclear US law actually made pre-1972 sound recordings already in the public domain, therefore they did nothing wrong. Not only the appeals court that got the case rule against Naxos, they basically made up the law and held that due to common law, every recording ever made was still under US copyright, no matter how old it was. Naxos couldn't really appeal this terrible and overreaching decision because they clearly broke US law, so it remains on the books and now there is no public domain currently in the US for musical performances. Please note that publishing and movies operate under different rules and things are actually in US public domain in those fields.

    1. Re:At least Canada has a music public domain by cusco · · Score: 1

      Clarification requested: Would talkie movies eventually go into public domain, or because they have sound recordings in them will we only get silent movies?

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    2. Re:At least Canada has a music public domain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you see, a judge in error is still in error and therefore cannot make--up any new law...the problem is people believe this stupid-ass funky myth that they can.

  13. Re:Sony created the Rootkit, nothing suprises me n by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

    Sony was on my banned products list since the rootkit incident. There have been several things since then that have only cemented my dislike for them as a company.

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  14. When the recording copyright expires first by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

    The copyright treaties define a shorter minimum copyright term for sound recordings than for other kinds of works. In some countries, if a song is written and recorded in the same year, the copyright in the composition expires 50 years after the death of the last surviving songwriter, but the copyright in the sound recording expires far earlier: 50 years after publication. This means someone can lawfully make and sell copies of any pre-1965 musical recording in those countries for only the cost of a license to the composition.

    The United States is one huge exception. It applies the same 95-year copyright term to recordings published in 1972 or later as it does to any other work made for hire published in the same year. It also applies state copyright to pre-1972 sound recording copyright, and state copyright isn't subject to the "for limited Times" wording of the copyright clause of its constitution. Federal law has set a date after which state copyright must expire, but that's in 2067 to give them the equivalent of one full federal copyright term after the introduction of federal sound recording copyright.

  15. SPH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really, you know you should

  16. Re: Sony created the Rootkit, nothing suprises me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which is yet one more reason why I have ~700gb of torrented albums all in flac. Fuck the "industry".

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  18. Fucking recording industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fucking recording industry. And Harper too. His sorry ass will be gone soon, and the extension that was granted will be repealed. Actually it would be best if the entire term was set to 20 years and no extensions. 20 years is one generation. You get to milk one generation. If its sold from one company to another, the outstanding term length is cut in half (each time).