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Easy-To-Clean Membrane Separates Oil From Water

ckwu writes: A steel mesh with a novel self-cleaning coating can separate oil and water, easily lifting oil from an oil-water mixture and leaving the water behind. Unlike existing oil-water separation membranes, if the coated mesh gets contaminated with oil, it can be simply rinsed off with water and reused, without needing to be cleaned with detergents. The team was able to use the mesh to lift crude oil from a crude oil-seawater mixture, showcasing the feasibility of oil-spill cleanup. The membrane could also be used to treat oily wastewater and as a protective barrier in industrial sewer outlets to avoid oil discharge.

39 comments

  1. This doesn't make sense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It separates oil from water because the oil sticks to the mesh and the water doesn't, but then you clean it with water???? Surely they don't expect us to believe this magic.

    1. Re:This doesn't make sense. by Adriax · · Score: 1, Funny

      Apparently these evil overlords calling themselves scientists aren't following entry 12 of the evil overlord list.
      Specifically keeping a 5 year old child on staff to spot these glaringly obvious fatal flaws in their evil schemes.

      Good thing though. Virtuous hero AC here can exploit that flaw and save us from their evil oil-seawater separation plot.

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    2. Re:This doesn't make sense. by penguinoid · · Score: 2

      Right, it doesn't make sense unless it's used as a filter rather than as a sponge. Which it is.

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    3. Re:This doesn't make sense. by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      It's like Teflon which nothing sticks to it yet somehow manages to stick onto the pan. The same scientists made this stuff.

    4. Re:This doesn't make sense. by CODiNE · · Score: 1

      You could in theory have boats drag a say 20 foot deep by hundreds of feet long "curtain" of the stuff and make it into a closed loop. Then you slowly compress it by winding it like a clock spring while being careful not to let any out. The oil would get thicker around the top and it's weight would gradually press the cleaner water downwards. You could then "scoop".

      Maybe a large square shape with a moving wall would be easier.

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    5. Re:This doesn't make sense. by morgauxo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Aparently you have no idea what a filter is. Just reverse the flow and all the filtered material comes back out.

      Whooo Spooky Magic!

  2. The real market is defracking your well water. by TheNarrator · · Score: 2

    I bet a lot of people who have contaminated well water thanks to fracking are going to love this!

    1. Re:The real market is defracking your well water. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Do they use petroleum oil in the fracking process? Oh wait, they don't.

    2. Re:The real market is defracking your well water. by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      If fracking contaminated well water with oil, I'm sure they would. Unfortunately, the claim is that fracking contaminates well water with fracking compounds used by the driller, not the oil. This does them no good at all.

  3. Then what by ITRambo · · Score: 1

    Okay oil sticks to mesh coated with a phosphorylcholine-based polymer membrane. Sounds not-cheap. Next you wash the oil build-up off with water. This happens because the polymer has an affinity for water. Next...what comes next? Where does the oil-water mixture go? Is it shipped to a facility that can properly treat it or are they simply moving the problem to another location?

    1. Re:Then what by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      You sell it to McDonalds for French Fry grease.

    2. Re:Then what by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, and then use it there for two or three years, and then fill your gas tank with it.

    3. Re:Then what by Oligonicella · · Score: 2

      This would work if the filter takes out more oil than it requires to wash it off. Oil sticks to polymer, other oil is attracted to the oil skin more than the water and the skin grows. Forced water overcomes the polymer bias. The resultant sludge is then treated like water polluted oil instead.

  4. Oil filtered thru water cleaned with water, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok, sorry, but....

    You catch oil in WATER with a mesh to separate out the oil from the WATER.
    You then wash the mesh with WATER to remove the oil.

    What am i missing oh sageous scientists and wannabe slashdottersists?

  5. Re:Can they run Debian through this filter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lennart has announced he's implementing one of those filters to remove corruped binary logs.

  6. Will Never Be Used in the United States by IonOtter · · Score: 2

    US law requires that all oil collected by vacuum ships be brought to a processing facility, where 100% of all oil must be removed prior to the water being discharged.

    During the Deepwater Horizon disaster, there were serious delays in the US accepting offers of help from the Netherlands and other nations. Most of them came with a price tag, but the Dutch offered three sets of Koseq Rigid Sweeping Arms for free. Because they were only 98% efficient, and they were initially refused.

    However, common sense (and desperation) won out in the end, and we started accepting all the offers for free equipment that came in, including the Dutch offer.

    Reference article

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    1. Re:Will Never Be Used in the United States by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Informative

      You might want to re-read your "reference article" all the way through, including the editorial comment after the article's end. It doesn't seem to contain the details you state.

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    2. Re:Will Never Be Used in the United States by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      And who got those ridiculous, expensive laws passed, that were designed to screw companies over? Why, environmentalists, of course. Is anyone surprised?

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    3. Re:Will Never Be Used in the United States by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, damn ridiculous to tell companies to not pollute the waters everyone benefit from and where we get our fish from. Those evil envinromentalists! Let companies leak 1% oil! Only 1%! Doesn't sound like much! I mean, you'd even let me replace 1% of your blood with oil? It's so little it's almost insignificant!

    4. Re:Will Never Be Used in the United States by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      The rule for shipboard oily water separators for most of us is that the oil content of discharge has to be less than 15ppm. OWS discharge monitoring devices generally suck because they use an optical detection system to ensure the 15ppm and they go off on rusty water just the same as oily water. However, if you're a tanker, life is better. As per 33 CFR 157.37 a tanker 50 miles from shore can discharge oily mixture into the sea while underway so long as the oil content doesn't exceed 30 liters per nautical mile. So, the boats with giant tanks where they could retain all that crap get to dump it, and the rest of us get 15ppm. But, this is just about oil. Outside waters controlled by individual states (usually 3 miles) we can all dump any hazardous cleaning chemical at all, so long as we aren't doing so in order to emulsify oil.

    5. Re:Will Never Be Used in the United States by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      Of course a nice work around for oily water separation is to just take that dirty bilge water and slowly inject it into the hot part of your diesel fired incinerator. 20ppm into the water isn't allowed, but if all those hydrocarbons get converted to CO2, there's no regulation on that discharge.

  7. How It Works by chill · · Score: 4, Informative

    The coating lives water and repels oil. Pull it thru an oil-water mix and the water flows thru the holes but the oil doesn't.

    Pull it out and it contains a puddle of oil. Rinse it with a little water and the oil comes right off, ready for reuse.

    This isn't that uncommon in these types of filters. What is new is that this works dry. Other filters of this type have to be thoroughly wet before they work. This one is oleophobic when dry as well. So no fancy prep to get it to work.

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  8. Re:Oil filtered thru water cleaned with water, wha by camperdave · · Score: 1

    Perhaps the temperature of the water? The pressure at which it is applied? There are ways.

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  9. Re:Nonsequitur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At best, you are off-topic, at worst a troll.

    And you've given them the attention they desperately crave. Idiot.

  10. Gulf of Mexico oil spill application possibilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: It sounds like a GREAT thing that could be applied there.

    * The reason I state this is, last I knew of @ least (not a big current events man on the environmental front here) it was STILL a big mess there with the oil spill.

    See - I was in Mobile Alabama, Fairhope specifically, in 2002, & it's a beautiful place... it'd be a shame to know it's beyond recovery + the utter shame of destroying all that sealife that never did a damn thing to people having to die for no reason like that is a shame.

    I've seen "jubilee" there (look it up) & it's like a gift from God, free fresh food from the sea (attributed to sudden oxygen loss iirc since the gulf is VERY shallow for miles into it, you can actually walk way, Way, WAY out into it down where I was learning about crabbing in cages from folks I stayed with)... again, a shame to mess such a wonderful natural phenomenon up, when this invention sounds like the ticket to fix it possibly.

    APK

    P.S.=> Someone "more in the know" fill me in &/or feel free to correct me if need be - I can stand to learn a new thing or learn it better as much as the next person does (thanks in advance)... apk

  11. Re:Nonsequitur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fair call. In reality, I think that this was just the straw that broke the camel's back because I just have gotten so sick of seeing that kind of stuff in the comments, and I just kinda snapped.

  12. Defracking? Is that a thing? by rmdingler · · Score: 1

    If fracking contaminated well water with oil, I'm sure they would. Unfortunately, the claim is that fracking contaminates well water with fracking compounds used by the driller, not the oil. This does them no good at all.

    Quite right... the water wells are seldom contaminated with oil. Salty production water, carcinogenic solvents, and as yet mystery fracking chemicals are much more common invaders of the fresh water table due to drilling activities.

    Every well drilled for oil/gas exploitation travels through the water table to get to the energy reservoir. There is an industry practice of casing these wells with concrete to below where the water table ends, altruistically protecting the water table from the well.

    Consider the millions of producing US wells alone: a fraction of a percent of casing failures would still be a huge number of well contaminations. Add the number of all wells drilled since Titusville in 1896, and factor in the likelihood that the older wells were less concerned with safety.

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  13. Re:Oil filtered thru water cleaned with water, wha by PPH · · Score: 1

    What am i missing

    Perhaps it takes a lot less wash water than the amount that is cleaned per cycle. Typical of many filtering systems.

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  14. How does it scale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can they make a few hundred square kilometers of this filter to clean up oil spills on the sea?

  15. Re:Expect the Republicans to kill this... by omnichad · · Score: 1

    Yeah, won't someone think of saving all that potable seawater. Wait...what?

  16. Filters on the shelf? by robi5 · · Score: 1

    > if the coated mesh gets contaminated with oil

    If I filter oil, the mesh gets oily. What's the reason for the 'if'?

  17. Will be banned in and near the United States by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is something that aids in the cleanup of oil spills, so it will be banned on irrational ground in order to maximise the amount of damages they can extract from foreign oil companies, like they did with Deepwater Horizon.

  18. It's already been done. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a mechanic, sometimes you drain the antifreeze to work on a car, but the pan you drain it into gets contaminated with oil and grit. So, you pour off the liquid into a large open faced pan and throw some clean rags on top. They absorb the oil, and since they're getting oily, they won't absorb the water/antifreeze mixture. I'd say this has been done since the '50's at least.

  19. Re:Expect the Republicans to kill this... by hesiod · · Score: 1

    But they are getting oil out of this deal, and they love oil!

  20. Removing oil from seawater by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wasn't this necessity already solved by a competition a few years back? There was an X-prize competition where several groups tested methods of removing oil from seawater. The winner by a large margin (industry standard was 1,100 gallons per minute, goal of competition was 2,500 gpm, they achieved almost twice that) was a simple concept of large rotating grooved disks of plastic, the oil would adhere to the plastic long enough to be scraped off and diverted to a holding tank. It removed far more oil than the competition required, was dirt cheap to build and simple to keep up and running.

    http://www.npr.org/2011/10/19/141481055/revolutionary-oil-skimmer-nets-1-million-x-prize

  21. How about a kitchen version? by Botched · · Score: 1

    Something for me to skim oil off of my soup with?