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Google Partnering With Indian Railways To Provide Wi-Fi Hotspots

An anonymous reader writes: Google and Indian Railways have partnered together for 'Project Nilgiri' which aims to set up more than 400 Wi-fi hotspots. IBTimes reports: "Internet access will be free for passengers after the system verifies a user's mobile number with a one-time password sent by text message. However, only the first 30 minutes of usage will be on high-speed Internet, Telecom Talk reported. The telecom industry news site has also posted a screen grab — that shows the service is being provided by Google — of the portal into which passengers have to enter the one-time access code."

26 comments

  1. Free is always nice, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    those disgusting hoops "consumers" have to jump through (identify yourself and reveal your phone number in this case) make me ever more furious. Corporation's lust for consumer control and state's lust for surveillance make for a win-win-lose situation (two wolves and a sheep voting on who's for dinner, if you know what I mean).

    Time for pitchforks?

    1. Re:Free is always nice, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Just don't use it. You have that option, if it's not worth it to you. I guess the question I have is what does someone do if they only have a laptop or WiFi only tablet with them and no phone? I know, everyone has phones these days, but maybe there are a few that don't.

    2. Re:Free is always nice, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Just don't use it [...]

      Yeah, right. I actually *don't* use "it". But how long it's before you need a Facebook account to get a job? Or be registered on Twitter to find a flat where to live in?

      This "just don't use it" argument is getting old pretty quickly: as quickly as one single corporation can monopolize a chunk of our digital lives.

      I don't use Google as a mail provider because *I can fucking afford it*. Still they get to read half of my mails (unless I only send mails to myself). But not everyone can afford it. I'm not "on Facebook" because *I can fucking afford it*. Not everyone can. I buy my books at a brick-and-mortar store (instead of at Amazon) because... you get the idea.

      And the population which can afford those things is going to dwindle fast, while the economy of scale does its thing.

      Pitchforks, I tell ya.

    3. Re:Free is always nice, but... by sycodon · · Score: 1

      Now, the people who end up having to sit on top of the trains will have it better than the ones with seats as they will undoubtedly have a better signal!

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  2. See who's Googling you! by rmdingler · · Score: 2
    Sure, this is a foot in the door to a billion strong market of future consumers.

    But, to the millions in the Indian countryside with no access to the internet,

    exploitation that brings connectivity is still preferential to interwebz darkness.

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  3. Indian Govt ISP is just horrible. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    I just got back from India yesterday. My brother uses the Indian public sector ISP called BSNL. Either the router supplied by them is so pathetic it gets hacked by dark side of the internet. OR the ISP itself is abusing DNS hijacking process to serve adware and malware.

    Whatever the case may be, only https traffic seems to be safe. All http traffic gets hijacked. From my non-jailbroken standard Google Nexus 5 android phone chrome browser, any link I access via http would randomly redirect to some redirec.xxx.yyy site from there another redirect and then another and I would get pop ups warning that there are viruses in my phone, something is out of date and random apk files get downloaded into the download folder. Lots of prompts to install. Happens to both Chrome and firefox in android.

    From Windows 7 PC, a tab gets opened and random ads keep playing on it. Since there are pop-up blockers no warning pops up. But unless that random tab is left to exist, no other tab works. My brother's family have learned to leave that tab alone and use other tabs to browse. Most of the apps of my nephew does not work because any http request goes to such random malware sites

    I reset the router and cleared the cache, changed the router password to non default values. Still the bad behavior continues. In the net tons and tons of complaints about this DNS hijacking.

    Looks like the ISP is abusing a standard protocol used by hotels and other wifi providers who make you click on "I agree to the terms" before handing you over to a clean DNS server. Looks like BSNL never lets you off. It acts as man in the middle for all http traffic and injects its own ads and scripts into the requested pages. And what it injects seem to be the worst of the worst.

    I got really scared when I found a fresh download of an apk file in Abu Dhabi airport wifi on my way back. I had done several reboots and cache clearing before. So far no new bad behavior on my phone. So I think I have not picked up any infection. Wondering how to really make sure.

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    1. Re:Indian Govt ISP is just horrible. by amalcolm · · Score: 1

      Obblig: Nuke it from obbit .. it's the only way to be sure

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    2. Re:Indian Govt ISP is just horrible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a huge outcry when airtel did something similar at a smaller scale on their mobile (3G) internet service. I dont believe you, sorry.

    3. Re:Indian Govt ISP is just horrible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Bharti Airtel is the worst sinner of them all and they intentionally do stuff like this. In their case the saying is "Never attribute to incompetence what can be attributed to malice." That is not to say they are competent. Their service is crap and incompetent as hell.

      However in BSNL's case it is "Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence". They are quasi-public sector and you know how the indian government machinery (NOT) functions if you have lived in India. They would be playing candy crush saga during customer complaint hearing meetings. So I would say some malware was there on BSNL's servers and have found a way to propagate to customers.

  4. Re:But still no toilets by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    Jared Diamond, in Guns, Diamonds and Steel argues that the poor hygiene of Europe is one of the reasons why it was able to conquer the world. Just before the age of exploration Europe was filthy beyond belief. Worse that what India is right now. The exploring Europeans were carriers of so many devastating diseases they were immune to themselves. Their diseases destroyed some 90% of the population of the New World, enabling them to conquer it with much ease.

    So brace yourself buddies. If there is a systemic collapse of the current world order, may be due to climate change, may be due to financial instability or a global war, 90% of slashdotters will die of diseases leaving the world free to be conquered by the Indians. That is why I visit India every year to reinforce what little immunity I still have left.

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  5. Who needs backdoors! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The NSA can go right through the effing front door. Served on a silver platter.

    After facebook zero, and net neutrality violations, we have this.

    I will also give a small anecdote from the streets of Delhi. There are many bookshops from roadside vendors to small shops to huge bookstores. "The new digital age" - aka google's vision of the internet, is plastered on bookshelves everywhere. There is not even ONE book in most of these stores which discusses the opposite view.

    The Indian PM is visiting Silicon Valley - esp Facebook for a town hall this month. In the quest for delivering on his "development" promise, he seems to be making a deal with the devil(s).

    It is quite sad.

    (Go ahead, mark me a troll...)

  6. Amtrak by ottothecow · · Score: 1

    And yet, here in the US, we can't even manage to get reliable/functional wifi on amtrak.

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    1. Re:Amtrak by ph1ll · · Score: 1

      "And yet, here in the US, we can't even manage to get reliable/functional wifi on amtrak."

      At least they have reasonably clean toilets. Having travelled on Indian trains, I was wondering why Google didn't just donate toilets where you can't see the train tracks running beneath your arse. Now that would have wow-ed me.

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  7. Amtrak vs Indian Railway by linuxguy · · Score: 1

    I occasionally travel to Seattle from Portland, OR by train. Amtrak provide free wifi on the train. I have tried using it many many times, to do work while on the 3 hour ride. The wifi service is entirely useless and worthless. It is much much better to tether your computer to your phone and try to use that connection.

    Part of the problem I think is wifi tech used by Amtrak. No 5GHz signal. The 2.4GHz signal gets saturated when more than a handful of people use it. All access points use the same frequency, etc. etc. They gave the contract to the lowest bidder or a buddy of the admin.

    Google's wifi for the Indian Railway probably will be million times better than what we have here with Amtrak.

  8. Wrong priorities by oyenamit · · Score: 1

    How about first ensuring clean toilets and a website where you can actually do something hassle-free?
    Seriously.

  9. What is Internet? What is free? by Tokolosh · · Score: 1

    If the ISP does deep packet inspection, blocks ports or protocols, prioritized or degrades certain classes of traffic, censors sites, messes with DNS or otherwise does something besides providing connectivity to the network, then the service shall not be called "Internet".

    If users have to give up personal information, it is not "Free".

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  10. Thought I'd get here... by balajeerc · · Score: 1

    ...before someone mentioned toilets or the lack of them, but nooooo. Think of India and the first thing that Slashdotters think of is toilets and then cows. Or is it cows and then toilets?

    1. Re:Thought I'd get here... by kaka.mala.vachva · · Score: 1

      For intelligent people, the majority of Slashdotters are singularly obtuse when it comes to India and toilets. Yes, there should be more toilets - but there is more to life than toilets.

    2. Re:Thought I'd get here... by balajeerc · · Score: 1

      The way I look at it is like this: Let's say there is this fat guy. So you tell him he needs to lose weight. He agrees that he needs to do weight. But like most fat people he finds it difficult to stick to a diet/exercise regimen. A couple of months later, you hear that this guy has picked up a guitar and is trying to learn to play it. Sure, he is still fat, but from the looks of it, he seems to be a quick learn when it comes to playing the guitar. Do you now appreciate how well he is playing, or would you rather chastise him for not having done enough to lose weight first?

  11. Re:A country with other problems by balajeerc · · Score: 1

    Surely, you do agree that (having all those problems + free wifi) > (having all those problems)? Even if the difference be only marginal?