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Uber's Rivals Forming an International Alliance

jfruh writes: Didi Kuaidi is China's biggest native ride-sharing app, and it's using its cash hoard to build an alliance to take on global giant Uber. On the heels of a $100 million investment in Lyft, the company is also investing in Ola, India's biggest entry in the market. The deals have been described as involving sharing technology and market knowledge. "We look forward to exchanging learnings from two of the worlds largest markets and the tremendous synergies this partnership can bring, towards our commitment of building mobility for a billion Indians," Ola said about the new deal in a statement Monday.

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  1. The taxis are going to join the alliance too by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Funny

    But they're running late to the meeting

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  2. haven't people learned... by PhantomHarlock · · Score: 0

    ...to stop using the word synergy in press releases?

    1. Re:haven't people learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously. Look at all the negative repercussions: trolls pay attention to you, venture capitalists fund you, newspapers run your story... the list goes on. When are people going to stop selling themselves and their products and start being as cynical and worthless as your average slashdotter??

  3. Re:Fuck China, Fuck India by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    No, they do that in Pakistan, too.

  4. I'm all for it. by galabar · · Score: 1

    As long as it doesn't involve rent seeking.

  5. Re:Fuck China, Fuck India by epyT-R · · Score: 1

    So they bathe in the ganges? That's hardly a mark in their favor.

  6. Irrelevent. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

    Uber is going down on so many governmental levels. Competing with Uber? Competing to be knocked down and told to go away.

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  7. Can We Start by Luthair · · Score: 1

    correctly referring to Uber & al with the correct term: bandit taxi dispatchers. These are not ride sharing services (the car wasn't going that way already), they are dispatchers for quasi-contractor taxi drivers.

  8. The worst thing that could happen by danbob999 · · Score: 1

    Is a Uber monopoly.
    After they kill the taxi industry, they would then raise prices back as high or even higher then before.
    So any competition is good.

    1. Re:The worst thing that could happen by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      After they kill the taxi industry, they would then raise prices back as high or even higher then before.

      This only works in markets with large barriers to entry (like cable service). Ride sharing has near zero barriers to entry, since anyone can have more than one ride-sharing app on their phone.

    2. Re:The worst thing that could happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      your comment seems soundly logical, but in contradiction with the world I see around me.

    3. Re:The worst thing that could happen by danbob999 · · Score: 2

      On the contrary. Once Uber will have win its war against the taxi industry, barriers to entry will be huge. Since everyone will have Uber installed on its phone, an independent taxi driver will have 0 chances of getting called. Everybody could clone the Uber app tomorrow. The problem is getting both the drivers and the clients to use it, not only in one market, but internationally. The tourist traveling to Paris won't use a Uber competitor he has never heard of even if it's popular locally if he has the Uber application installed. And it's not just about downloading the application. You have to create an account (which is another barrier to entry) and trust them with your credit card number. Not worth it even if you save $2 once on one ride in a foreign country.

      It's like saying that there are no barriers to entry in the operating system market and everyone can create a competitor to Windows. The barrier is not the technical difficulty in writing the software, it's to get the people to use it, and depend on it.

    4. Re:The worst thing that could happen by gwolf · · Score: 1

      Most people never travel out of their countries during their lifetime. Don't give that much importance on what you will do in Paris or what I'll do in Bogotá.

    5. Re:The worst thing that could happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like programs that only run on Windows, I've got an ass that somehow can only ride on Uber. It's literally impossible for me to install multiple apps on my phone.

    6. Re:The worst thing that could happen by danbob999 · · Score: 1

      But those who do use taxi services a lot.

  9. Ride-sharing in China!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's soooo many unlicensed cabs in China. You need to be really careful because while some are honest people, there's a slew of opportunists who will just drive you out to nowhere and demand a fortune to bring you back, especially if you are a foreigner.

    My wife (a Chinese native) is adamant about make sure the cab is legit when we go there. There's no way in hell she would ever let me get into a ride-share. If she found out I did that, she'd be furious--I'd probably be better off if had committed an affair than did a shady cab ride.

    1. Re:Ride-sharing in China!?! by Rick+in+China · · Score: 1

      *yawn*

      Uber is very popular in China. So many people I know use Uber exclusively rather than real cabs, foreigners and Chinese alike.. cheaper, cleaner, all around better service in general. "Real" cabs are more likely to scam you (ie. give you the run-around) or get in accidents, they often drive insanely aggressively. I'm both a driver (I don't mean for Uber) and passenger in China, and I can tell you: your wife is wrong. She's more than likely talking about the black santanas that hang around outside airports or bus stops/train stations and try to tout customers into their rides for literally ride sharing with some other random people, often between-city..which are also fine, and I've taken many of those as well.

  10. Uber is evil - and already doomed by gurps_npc · · Score: 1
    Uber is a company built on lies (They promised far higher sales than they had, encouraged employees to give false, bad reviews to competitors, and did other similar crap.

    But when it comes down to it, their business is getting started less than a decade before robots are going to destroy their market.

    Lets face it, we already have viable driverless cars, the only reason we don't already have them available for sale to the wealthy old folk that drive into farmer markets and wealthy parents of drunkard teenagers are the legal and insurance issues.

    They have a sellby date, just like Newspapers.

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    1. Re:Uber is evil - and already doomed by Clifton+Beach · · Score: 1

      ...their business is getting started less than a decade before robots are going to destroy their market.

      I'm pretty sure self driving cars are included in Uber's plans:

      http://www.businessinsider.com...

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    2. Re:Uber is evil - and already doomed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Modded down because enough with your facts, jerk!

  11. Love to see an open source competitor by trawg · · Score: 1

    I've thought for a while an international collaboration between taxi companies via open source would be a great way for them to combat Uber. Rather than spin off a million of their own crappy little apps with terrible user experience, they could all be working together to make a nice piece of software they can all use.

    One of the reasons Uber is great (for me anyway) is it works really really well when traveling. You turn up at a new place, load the app, and you know it will work. I can get a price estimate in an entirely new city while I'm on the plane waiting to disembark. A collaborative approach between taxi services would allow for the same kind of thing internationally.

    There's all the usual benefits of an an open source app as well; I'd feel much more comfortable - I don't like all the permissions required (Android) and the mystery behind the Uber app.

    1. Re:Love to see an open source competitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would be a great idea if it were just the app.

      Programming costs and effort is the least of the worries.

      The primary expenses at this stage of the game would probably require very deep pockets for legal expenses, lobbyists & insurance coverage.

      The problem is each time Uber or others go up against a city or state, they typically walk away some new patchwork of rules for that area, city, or state.

      In California, the rules include insurance. Insurance companies for the most part don't want to cover bandit taxis. In order for your plan to work, well... it just can't now.

  12. The Coming Rideshare Wars by _0x783czar · · Score: 1

    They will be bloody. And some may fall by the wayside faster than the competitive price drops that brought them there. But I fear that, through it all, no matter which company wins and loses...

    I fear that the real losers will be: The Drivers.

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