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Orange County Developer To Install Tesla Batteries In Two Dozen Buildings (computerworld.com)
Lucas123 writes: The Irvine Company, a Newport Beach-based real estate developer that is a dominant landlord in Orange County, plans to install Tesla commercial batteries in two dozen of its buildings around Irvine Spectrum and John Wayne Airport. The project is the first of its kind of that size. The batteries will charge during non-peak hours and distribute power to the buildings during peak hours, a process that's expected to save the developer up to 10% of its energy costs or about $1 million a year.
I'm sure Orange County residents are fine with wise use of tax money. It will cost over 30 million to install, it might save up to a million per year.
How long is that battery life?
$30M to install? I'm seeing roughly $600k, at $25k per pop, per building.
The thing to remember about commercial building electric rates is that you not only pay a charge based on electrical usage, but also a 'peak power demand' surcharge. By reducing any peaks in power usage, it saves money on their bills.
If it saves anywhere near $1M/year, a roughly $1M investment is a foolish bargain to refuse.
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This is a great example of peak shaving.
In a nutshell, peak shaving is the process of reducing the amount of energy purchased from the utility company during peak hours when the charges are highest. Many businesses are paying for their electricity consumption on a time-of-use basis. Peak demand charges typically apply to electricity consumed from noon to 6:00 p.m. while lesser charges apply to the rest of the day. This rate trend mirrors demand, which typically peaks during these hours of the day. The great thing about solar electricity panels is that they produce most of their energy during these peak hours. Your business can offset their highest costing electricity with solar and only pay for the lower costing energy used during off peak times.
What isn't mentioned in the quote is another way that this saves money, which works even if your electric company doesn't offer a discount during off-peak hours. The transmission charges on an electric bill are typically based on the prior year's peak usage number times the rate for your transmission-based charges (this is true in the PJM and MISO footprints, I can't vouch for other areas). So if you can reduce your maximum usage kilowatts in a given year, the following year your charges will be lower.
I've noticed these coming a common topic amongst developers in Southern California. I've had a few ask me about this, just this week. Assuming this isn't just a flavor of the week (what happened to bloom boxes) my question is will the power company always tune there billing in such a way that makes this profitable. Realistically the buildings will utilize the same amount of power, but the peak loads will level out. in short Edison gets less money for the same kilo watts. How long will they let this fly before they begin adjusting there billing metric.
or the whole "off peak" thing will disappear. the grid will run at constant, and increasing, capacity full time. the first casualty however, will be any cost benefits for "off peak" charging.
The early adopters can greenwash and maybe make a case though.
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Do the numbers really work for this? If they do, why isn't the power company buying up Tesla's production for the foreseeable future?
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If not, this is a waste, like changing dollars to euros and back again. You will consume more on the long run.
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Just the other day you were spouting BS trying to minimize Fukushima. Here you are spouting BS about this energy storage investment. . .
Your painfully insecure posts, as you witness the miserable failure that is nuclear power continue down the road towards obsolescence, are seriously enjoyable to read. . . Seriously, keep it up. I am usually not one to feel schadenfreude, but this is some fucking good shit. Keep them coming. . .
So if everyone starts charging their electrical storage devices (batteries, cars, etc.) during off-peak hours, how long before the off-peak hours become peak hours?
I mean, they make sense in a car, because they are light, but for a building a lead-acid battery would make more sense, wouldn't it?
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Last time I went through Orange County I didn't see a single Tesla.
Are they sure they have the right market for this?
Us Floridians can get easily confused, what with the heat and all,
Seems we get a slashvertisement every day pimping one or another of his businesses - Tesla, SpaceX, SolarCity.
But I thought we'd 3D print fusion reactors with helium-3 from the Moon!??
The jew trolls are most the comments. A lot of the comments don't even say anything but they are voted up. Very obvious.