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MAME Emulating a Sonic the Hedgehog Popcorn Machine (polygon.com)

New submitter AmericaCounterweight writes: Polygon is reporting that the MAME development team has unearthed and emulated one of the most obscure pieces of Sonic heritage: a popcorn machine. MAME developer David Haywood reports that contributors "purchased the PCB for another novelty Sonic item, this time a SegaSonic Popcorn Shop, a popcorn dispenser machine with a video display. It runs on the Sega C2 board (Genesis type hardware)." This follows news from earlier this year that the MAME team would be switching to a true Open Source license for the project and concentrating on more than just arcade games. MAME project coordinator Miodrag Milanovic also recently appeared at the BalCCon2k15 event to speak about MAME, the current direction of the project, and software preservation.

33 comments

  1. WTF page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Horrible font is horrible.
    And none of the embedded videos is visible, is there is direct link to them?

  2. I appreciate the mame guys by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 1

    Back in th

    1. Re: I appreciate the mame guys by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 2

      Sorry for half comment, mobile device some how posted. I appreciate the mame guys because back in the day you'd go to the arcade and come back another day and your favorite game would be gone! Those machines break and if no one fixes them, they're done for. Mame preserves the games.

    2. Re: I appreciate the mame guys by timrod · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually in some cases, there were arcade boards that had planned obsolesence built into them. All of the Capcom Play System boards (CPS1, CPS2, CPS3) had various forms of what was known as a "suicide battery". In some boards this was a battery powering a RAM chip that contained a decryption table for the game. Once the battery died, the RAM would lose the decryption tables and make it impossible for the board to work. Others had a "suicide battery" that powered the game's graphics hardware, and needed a hardware-level fix (beyond just replacing the battery) to get the game working again. Sega also had their own suicide battery system for some of their hardware, but Capcom was the biggest offender.

      MAME bypasses all of this suicide hardware, and from what I recall some of the people on the MAME project worked on some of the software-level fixes necessary to get the older boards working again.

    3. Re: I appreciate the mame guys by netsavior · · Score: 1

      I opened up a CPS2 machine once, and the guy who had it before me had parallel wired up about 3 of those 3.6v batteries to the ramboard. there was a brittle sticky note on the inside of the plastic cover that said "Don't touch this battery solder in a new one"

      I admire the guy's genius of a hack, not sure if it actually worked, but that shitty Capcom trick removed any residual guilt I may have had about MAME.

    4. Re: I appreciate the mame guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The suicide battery has nothing to do with "planned obsolesence" and everything to do with piracy. Capcom's CPS1 titles were heavily bootlegged, notably SF2 (pre-Super), and the battery-backed encryption schemes were an attempt to protect their products.

      Moreover, the encryption wasn't introduced across the product line until the CPS2; CPS1.5 had the suicide batteries, but these titles were fewer in number.

    5. Re: I appreciate the mame guys by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I bought a Super Street Fighter II Turbo stand-up (and an older PacMan) and both sit in my basement collecting dust. I've been meaning to turn them both into MAME boxes for years now. *sighs* So many forgotten and half-done projects.

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    6. Re: I appreciate the mame guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, that isn't the definition of planned obsolescence, just poor design.

  3. FTFA by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 2

    "That game, not the actual popcorn-making, is what's supported on MAME."

    Nothing to see here, move along :(

    1. Re:FTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nothing to see here, move along :(

      Something to see, nothing to taste.

    2. Re:FTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ugh, don't you just hate forced MAMEs?

  4. Curry? by Dan+East · · Score: 1

    a 1993 vending machine which dispenses popcorn in one of three flavors—salted, butter or curry.

    I've never heard of curry flavored popcorn before.

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    Better known as 318230.
    1. Re:Curry? by donkwich · · Score: 2

      Curry flavored snacks is very much a Japanese thing, Google image search "japan curry flavored snack" for more examples. They love curry over there.

    2. Re:Curry? by jonathan.e.bell · · Score: 1

      Oh wow. If you have not had it before, I highly recommend it. A dash of salt, curry, and cayenne pepper on homemade popcorn is amazing. It's really not hard to do on the stove top.

    3. Re:Curry? by slashdice · · Score: 1

      And then do a Google image search for "tubgirl" for another Japanese thing. Bet you're no longer hungry for popcorn!

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      Copyright (c) 1990 - 2014 Dice. All rights reserved. Use of this comment is subject to certain Terms and Conditions.
    4. Re:Curry? by donkwich · · Score: 2

      If anything it just makes me crave a Fanta.

    5. Re:Curry? by rsmither · · Score: 1

      Also a very common flavor in Indian snacks. I imagine it is very common across much of Asia.

  5. Sonic, He Can Really Move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sonic, he can pop corn faster than the speed of light.

  6. The things people do when they aren't having sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously. What a waste of human energy.

  7. On "concentrating on more than just arcade games." by Red_Chaos1 · · Score: 1

    "This follows news from earlier this year that the MAME team would be switching to a true Open Source license for the project and concentrating on more than just arcade games."

    This somewhat confuses me. M.A.M.E. stands for Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. While the concession stand was part of the arcade (depending on what one you went to), most wouldn't consider those machines "arcade machines." This popcorn machine has a game in it though, so I can see that. I suppose even the redemption games and such might get a pass. So what else would they focus on besides arcade games with the name of the emulator being all about that specifically? Will they start emulating the coin changers? Hot dog rollers? Cotton candy spinner?

  8. Re:On "concentrating on more than just arcade game by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

    And the word "concentrate" is used in the opposite sense of what concentrate actually means.

  9. MAME by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You've made us feel alive again,
    You've given us the drive again,
    To make the South revive again, MAME.
    MAME! MAME! MAME! MAME!

  10. Re:On "concentrating on more than just arcade game by MrLogic17 · · Score: 1

    Sure, why not? What does the arcade community lose by preserving related devices?

    I'm all for the Google approach - more data is better. Pile on the devices!

  11. Aw yeah by Vyse+of+Arcadia · · Score: 1

    Now this is news for nerds.

  12. pinmame needs to get the redemption games by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    pinmame needs to get the redemption games that are missing dumps. Some of the 90's ones even used pinball hardware.

    Others are very to easy to emu if the roms are dumped and you can use something like Visual pinball for the coin rolling parts.

    There are other PC based games from the 90's that need to be dumped and put in to mame.

    lasertron redemption I think mostly pc based hardware games are needed. Some one on YouTube with one had to a be ass when asked for the roms / software and state the copyright BS. Well mame is about saving the games and I think that even pinball maybe dead right now if not for the visual pinball and pinmame comeing out in the late 90's / early 00's

  13. Re:On "concentrating on more than just arcade game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what else would they focus on besides arcade games with the name of the emulator being all about that specifically? Will they start emulating the coin changers? Hot dog rollers? Cotton candy spinner?

    I think you answered your own questions:

    This popcorn machine has a game in it though, so I can see that.

  14. I really want to like mame. But they are homopho by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And promote a toxic environment by constantly providing a safe harbour for "justdeserets"

    https://archive.is/gjNG6
    https://archive.is/Oiqb0

    "You really like this Tony Wilen guy a lot, is he your wife or something?

    Serious question, do you have Asperger's?"

    Until this kind of badgering and harassment is ended, mame is utterly toxic.

  15. Mame? by 0xdeaddead · · Score: 1

    I always love their abusive rants to me and others who dare touch any other emulator.

    If some project needed a code of conduct, it is mame

  16. Re:On "concentrating on more than just arcade game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Basically 'the easy stuff' is done. There are no more real big games to add in. Anything left is pretty much trash or so wildly expensive they will not buy it to dump. Haze did a pretty good experiment a few years ago of going thru and completely emulating the Sega Master System and making sure all 2k of games it had ran very well. It had an immediate benefit to about 20-30 arcade games that were flakey and didnt work very well and a few dozen other devices.

    Consoles and computers have a much wider swath of 'test cases' (ie other software). It may be fine for an instruction to be off here or there on a 1 off bit of software such as pac man. But on other machines which use the same cpu may not be as tolerant. So as you fix bugs in one thing you get a 'free' fix across thousands of other games.

    Basically at this point if it has a CPU and some memory they are going to give it a go. All the games are still there. It just does more now.

    'mame pacman' still fires up pacman. You can now though fire up a original fairly competent Gameboy emulation and play the version of pacman on that platform if you are interested. Or just ignore it.

    Nothing to be really confused about. They are putting more of the devices together and finding more and more bugs. Because they have more test cases. If you really are against it they even accommodate you. You can check out your own git fork and build it just as 'mame classic' with only arcade games in there. MAME has always been the 'borg' of emulation. There used to be dozens of particular one off board games out there. In fact MAME started off as yet another pacman emulator. It is going to pick up more and more as it goes along.

    Now if only we could get a decent 3d physical simulator in there. The pinball emulation they have in there could be more interesting.

    Will they start emulating the coin changers? Hot dog rollers? Cotton candy spinner
    if it has a cpu probably. Knowing the dudes who write this? Yes. They have a few CNC machines, several printers, a typewriter, an EPROM programmer, even a telephone. You may not find it interesting. But it is kinda cool that the same chips that let you run an arcade game were mostly used these days as microcontrollers. They have created a fascinating architecture of 'devices' which let them quickly stand something up. I would be willing to bet they had that popcorn machine up in under a week. That sort of work used to take years.

  17. Re: I really want to like mame. But they are hom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Toxic?
    Toxic 2?
    Toxic Crusaders?