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British Engineers Create Sonic Tractor Beam (bbc.co.uk)

An anonymous reader writes: According to the BBC, engineers in Bristol, England have created a system for remote manipulation of physical objects using sound holograms. The video shows pea-sized objects being dragged around and stacked up in mid-air with no visible means of support. "In essence, an object sitting in a 'quiet' region of space can be held there if it is surrounded by very high-intensity sound waves. As the pattern of that boundary shifts, the object can be moved around." If the Empire is making a tractor beam, now they only need a Death Star to go with it.

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  1. Screwdriver Form by tgetzoya · · Score: 5, Funny

    When will they get this in screwdriver form?

    1. Re:Screwdriver Form by fyngyrz · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You intend to screw with some peas, do you?

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    2. Re:Screwdriver Form by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 0

      Whoever modded this 'troll' needs to have their geek privledges suspended.

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    3. Re: Screwdriver Form by ememisya · · Score: 1

      Right after they perfect the Heimlich maneuver with it I presume. I need one just to cancel out barking dogs in the neighborhood. Either way it won't work on wood.

    4. Re: Screwdriver Form by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

      Right after they perfect the Heimlich maneuver with it I presume.

      Wrong Doctor. Go back to Geek School.

    5. Re:Screwdriver Form by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No-one modded it "troll". I modded it off-topic because the story has fuck all to do with Dr Who and I knew the comments would be filled with people who saw the sound connection but had nothing worthwhile to contribute. In other words I got the reference so you can't have my geek card, but that doesn't mean I should give everyone who also gets it a pat on the back.

    6. Re:Screwdriver Form by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      I modded it off-topic because the story has fuck all to do with Dr Who...

      Bullshit. Look, I'm all for nipping memes in the bud, but if there's one time we can get away with it, this is it. This is the first time we've seen something in our own technology that can explain the magic of how it works. Not bad considering it has been disguised as a 'tractor beam'.

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    7. Re:Screwdriver Form by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Here's an idea for Dice: before someone is allowed to moderate, they must prove they have a sense of humor. :)

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  2. Ah yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A tractor beam, that relies on waves propagating through matter, that will work in the nearly matterless void that is space, right?

    1. Re:Ah yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If we make use of the quantum foam, yes.

    2. Re:Ah yes by bobbied · · Score: 4, Funny

      A tractor beam, that relies on waves propagating through matter, that will work in the nearly matterless void that is space, right?

      Just turn up the volume until it works..

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    3. Re:Ah yes by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      I thought you just have to reverse the polarity...

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    4. Re:Ah yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A tractor beam, that relies on waves propagating through matter, that will work in the nearly matterless void that is space, right?

      Just turn up the volume until it works..

      Turn it up to 11!!!!!!

    5. Re:Ah yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      couldnt we just reverse the polarity?

    6. Re:Ah yes by binarylarry · · Score: 1

      A layman might try that, however as an expert I would cross the streams.

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    7. Re:Ah yes by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Years ago, I'd visit the physics department and one of the things they were playing with (they had the coolest toys) was a speaker made of some exotic material - I think it may have been ceramic so not that exotic. Anyhow, they were pumping very low frequencies into it and using it to balance a pingpong ball in mid air. I read the summary but, being no heretic, I didn't read the article. I suspect the same thing applies.

      Oddly enough, I don't think they were studying sound or pingpong. I was probably a little drunk, or high. I seem to recall that they were actually doing something with fluid dynamics. No, no I am not a physicist and my memory is pretty fuzzy. This was way back in the early 1990s or late 1980s. I seem to recall that they were actually using a very high speed camera to look at it. I've no idea what the outcome was and I strongly suspect they were high too.

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    8. Re:Ah yes by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

      Years ago, I'd visit the physics department and one of the things they were playing with (they had the coolest toys) was a speaker made of some exotic material - I think it may have been ceramic so not that exotic. Anyhow, they were pumping very low frequencies into it and using it to balance a pingpong ball in mid air. I read the summary but, being no heretic, I didn't read the article. I suspect the same thing applies.

      Oddly enough, I don't think they were studying sound or pingpong. I was probably a little drunk, or high. I seem to recall that they were actually doing something with fluid dynamics. No, no I am not a physicist and my memory is pretty fuzzy. This was way back in the early 1990s or late 1980s. I seem to recall that they were actually using a very high speed camera to look at it. I've no idea what the outcome was and I strongly suspect they were high too.

      I think you were high when you posted this. Sober up before going on-line.

    9. Re:Ah yes by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Actually, a quick Google indicates it may have been using aero-acoustics to study fluid dynamics. You're free to poke around here:

      https://www.google.com/search?...

      Anything published would have been post 1992. And sober up? Why, I never!

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    10. Re:Ah yes by Lab+Rat+Jason · · Score: 1

      In Space... no one can hear your tractor beam!

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    11. Re:Ah yes by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that "space" has plenty of air in it in the Star Wars version, given the way spacecraft "fly" in it...

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    12. Re:Ah yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this was the physics department at Bristol University? Or are you claiming that Americans got there first...?

    13. Re:Ah yes by KGIII · · Score: 1

      No, this was them floating a ping pong ball with sound. It was MIT. They were video taping it - and watching the waves because you can do that with a high speed camera. I'm pretty sure they were neither studying ping pong nor acoustics - I'm pretty sure that they were working on fluid dynamics. I have no idea what ever became of it, it was just neat to see. This device seems like a much refined form of the above. MIT was not, as far as I know, the first to float a ping pong ball with sound. They might have been but I've no idea. S'not my field and thus I'm not really qualified to opine.

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    14. Re:Ah yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just bounce a graviton particle beam off the main deflector dish. That should carry the sonic waves.

  3. Who writes this tripe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "If the Empire is making a tractor beam, now they only need a Death Star to go with it."

    Not even wrong.

  4. Sonic Tractor Beam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So does it only work on blue hedgehogs then?

  5. Good luck with a sonic tractor beam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE

  6. Not a tractor beam by jules_d'entremont · · Score: 2

    It's a pressor beam. It doesn't attract anything.

    1. Re:Not a tractor beam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It attracts defense $.

      You might even call it a "contractor beam."

    2. Re:Not a tractor beam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's a pressor beam. It doesn't attract anything.

      Not true.

      "We wanted to demonstrate that we could do it upside down. We had a discussion and we thought that everyone thinks of a tractor beam as people being sucked up into space.

      "So we mounted the array upside-down in a cardboard UFO, and the particle gets sucked up into it."

      And this is demonstrated in the video attached to the article too.,

    3. Re:Not a tractor beam by bobbied · · Score: 1

      I was thinking it was more of a pusher beam.... Which would be more efficiently constructed out of nozzles using compressed air... But I suppose the point is not about being practical, but doing something new and unique in a different way. Kind of like teenaged boys saying "Watch this!"

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    4. Re:Not a tractor beam by WeeBit · · Score: 0


      <quote><p>And this is demonstrated in the video attached to the article too.,</p></quote>

      and the video was too short. I wonder the size of the little pebble size balls were as in weight? Looks like they didn't even match the weight of a ping pong ball. Then I have to wonder what size their new gadget needs to be if they had a truck instead of that little pebble?

    5. Re:Not a tractor beam by parkinglot777 · · Score: 1

      and the video was too short. I wonder the size of the little pebble size balls were as in weight? Looks like they didn't even match the weight of a ping pong ball. Then I have to wonder what size their new gadget needs to be if they had a truck instead of that little pebble?

      I think you are missing the point. The size or weight does not matter. It just demonstrates that tractor beam can be used in such the way. In the future, they may be able to use it to move bigger/heavier objects. Trying to imagine the size of gadget now has nothing to do with the demonstration because it will go under a lot more research in order to achieve something more useful.

    6. Re:Not a tractor beam by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      "We wanted to demonstrate that we could do it upside down. We had a discussion and we thought that everyone thinks of a tractor beam as people being sucked up into space.

      "So we mounted the array upside-down in a cardboard UFO, and the particle gets sucked up into it."

      And this is demonstrated in the video attached to the article too.,

      Got me to go RTFA. I cannot believe how much the web has changed since I last saw it, circa 1998 or so!

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    7. Re:Not a tractor beam by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      I hear this is their third version.

      The first could be used to calculate angles. It was a protractor beam.

      The second was used to black out sensitive text from documents. It was a redactor beam.

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    8. Re:Not a tractor beam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're working on a version that will redirect the enemy's attention away from you.

      That's right, it's a dis-tractor beam!

    9. Re:Not a tractor beam by Lab+Rat+Jason · · Score: 1

      Man I wish I could mod this up, but it's already at 5... so awesome I nearly sprayed Mt. Dew all over the screen.

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    10. Re:Not a tractor beam by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Is this something like a pusher robot?

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  7. Ya but ... a 'quiet' region of space ? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    In essence, an object sitting in a 'quiet' region of space can be held there if it is surrounded by very high-intensity sound waves.

    In Space, no one can hear you tractor beam.

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    1. Re:Ya but ... a 'quiet' region of space ? by bobbied · · Score: 0, Redundant

      In essence, an object sitting in a 'quiet' region of space can be held there if it is surrounded by very high-intensity sound waves.

      In Space, no one can hear you tractor beam.

      Ah, just turn up the volume until somebody does.... My volume knob thing goes to 11! So there....

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    2. Re:Ya but ... a 'quiet' region of space ? by leathered · · Score: 1

      Everyone in space can hear a Disaster Area concert.

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    3. Re:Ya but ... a 'quiet' region of space ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      In Space, no one can hear you tractor beam.

      That's so right!

      Its because of all those other galaxies. Andromeda, Cartwheel Galaxy, NGC 4676. They are ripping us off. They make a fortune with our air. If Trump becomes president, he will bring back the oxygen, he will bring back the nitrogen, and make this galaxy GREAT AGAIN. He loves the Cartwheelians. He loves the Cartwheel people. He has thousands and thousands working for them. Their leaders are too smart for us. Imagine Rubio negotiating with the Andromedans about the merger. Whom do you rather want to negotiate with them: Rubio or Trump?

      You see all these asteroids entering the atmosphere? Killing the dinosaurs? Gertie! Gertie, oh wonderful Gertie! Killed by an asteroid. Five times it has already passed earth, five times it has been coming back. With the solar system filled with air, all the asteroids will burn. Yes burn. Trump knows that's not politically correct, but one has to say how it is. Do you want somebody with low energy to be president?

      Yesterday, polls came out. All arms for trump. The Sagittarius Arm. Leading by ten percent. The Scutum Arm. 30 percent. 30. 30 percent, the second has 2, can you believe it? The perseus arm. 40 percent. In one arm, trump fell back. By two percent! The next day, the whole press titled "TRUMP FALLS BACK". Can you believe it? Unbelievable. If he didn't fall back, it wouldn't be worth a line for them. They are all liars. Not all of them, but 70 percent of them.

      Trump will make the milky way great again.

    4. Re:Ya but ... a 'quiet' region of space ? by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

      In Space, no one can hear you tractor beam.

      That's so right!

      Its because of all those other galaxies. Andromeda, Cartwheel Galaxy, NGC 4676. They are ripping us off. They make a fortune with our air. If Trump becomes president, he will bring back the oxygen, he will bring back the nitrogen, and make this galaxy GREAT AGAIN.

      He can also built a transparent wall around the earth to keep out those illegal aliens and protect our air supply. Of course, it will need to have a combination. I wonder if he'll use the same combination as the one he has on his luggage?

    5. Re:Ya but ... a 'quiet' region of space ? by blazer1024 · · Score: 1

      I feel like Futurama had the right idea with Nixon's head being president... just the wrong crazy old president.

  8. Stellarator Neutron Flux Solution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Electricity instead of bombs? (Think Ira\b\b\b NIF)

  9. Its a tractor beam Jim ... by Alain+Williams · · Score: 1

    but not as we know it.

  10. Video? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see any video in either of the two articles linked (but the second has a lot of nice diagrams)...

    1. Re:Video? by Sowelu · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure your browser's broken then, the BBC article has a video just above the text "Engineers in Bristol".

    2. Re:Video? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After enabling lots of unnecessary javascript, it tells me to install flash. In 2015.

    3. Re:Video? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect I would find the same thing if I were to disable all my protection as well. Exhibit A of how advertising has broken the web.

      (And I agree, any competent web developer would have built a page that works with adblockers/privacy in place)

    4. Re:Video? by NotInHere · · Score: 1

      No, this is not because of advertising. The bbc tries to make copying the content hard, and uses digital restrictions management. They even supported EME: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/ar...

    5. Re:Video? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      digital restrictions management? Finally, someone is going to manage those pesky digital restrictions! I was getting sick of all these media companies imposing digital restrictions on me without anyone bothering to manage them. Seriously, though, could you please stop trying to make DRM sound like a good thing and call it something that makes it clear that it manages rights?

    6. Re:Video? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Revise the previous AC's comment to read: Exhibit A on how DRM breaks the web. (although advertising actually has broken the web anyway)

  11. Like this? by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 2
    1. Re:Like this? by petervandervos · · Score: 1

      Yes, but then only on one side.

    2. Re:Like this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean more like this - even two dimensional: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Sorry, dear Americans, the UK beat you to that, but i'm pretty sure that the whole matter has been achieved even earlier, can't bother to find a proof now, though.

    3. Re:Like this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like this? No, not at all.

      Argonne are just showing the nodes in a standing wave. Bristol can manipulate the sound pressures to actively move things around - much more useful!

  12. Just one more thing... by msauve · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "If the Empire is making a tractor beam, now they only need a Death Star to go with it."

    Well, that and an atmosphere.

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  13. Tarctor beam. by jondeanmack · · Score: 1

    I might start with a sound positioning beam until the subject is worn out a little, then transfer to using a light positioning beam to move the subject until the subject is worn out a little bit more than before, then transfer to using a magnetic field to move the subject until the subject is even more worn out, and so on,.. until death.

  14. Was it Scotty? by justcauseisjustthat · · Score: 1

    Montgomery "Scotty" Scott invent tractor beam, hmmmm....

  15. What happened to Slashdot? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The reference should obviously had been either Dr. Who or Star Trek. Fuck Star Wars, it's the Wizard of Oz in space.

    1. Re:What happened to Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is what Trek nerds actually believe. Go put on your pointy ears and hide out in a phone booth, fruitcake.

    2. Re:What happened to Slashdot? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 2
    3. Re:What happened to Slashdot? by RonTheHurler · · Score: 1

      Watch "Clash of the Titans" by Ray Harryhausen.
        R2D2 is clearly the mechanical owl. The rest is a pretty close parallel too.

      Of course, Joe Campbell's book "Hero with 1000 faces" was a strong influence to both.

    4. Re:What happened to Slashdot? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Fuck Star Wars, it's the Wizard of Oz in space.

      Best. Description. Ever.

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    5. Re:What happened to Slashdot? by JohnStock · · Score: 1

      Well said sir. Star Wars is a joke. Intelligent people like Star Trek.. Einstein said so.

  16. Obviously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tachyon

  17. Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now we'll just have to build a big pump to inflate the vacuum of space and then this will work just fine in microgravity.

  18. In Soviet Russia... by Megane · · Score: 1

    In Soviet Russia, you drive tractor!

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  19. It was a full size Star Wars tractor beam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Star Wars takes place in a galaxy far away and long ago, so we have no idea of scale. Except...

    We know they can travel between planets in a relatively short time. Given that faster than light travel is impossible, we can calculate the upper limit to their "galaxy" size by the speed at which they can traverse it. We also know that sound travels in their "space" so it is probably filled with air. What we take for "gravity" is probably some other force, such as electrostatic attraction, surface tension or soic tractor beams. By my calculations the "humans" are microbe sized and the death star was the size of a pea.

  20. PULL! by sycodon · · Score: 1

    The word tractor was taken from Latin, being the agent noun of trahere "to pull".

    So far, they all push.

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  21. Fake science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL, this was done two years ago in Japan.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJxJRAxdFU

    Headline should read "British scientists discovers ultrasonic two years late.

    NB. The japanese has much better 3d control than the UK example.

    1. Re:Fake science by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      Nice video. But this is a levitation (objects are pushed) rather than a tractor (objects are pulled) beam.

      The first part of the linked bbc.co.uk video is a bit unclear, watch it until the end to see the pulling effect.

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  22. Really??? How is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You really had my hopes up with the title on this one. Pushing the pea into the air against the force of gravity with sound waves. This is nothing new. They've been able to do things like this for years. In science fiction, tractor beams almost always pull things towards themselves (which is a much more impressive feat). Now had they been able to focus the sound waves from above to levitate the pea without reflecting them, then I would've been much more impressed.

    1. Re:Really??? How is this new? by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      Watch the video until the end. The pea is actually being pulled.

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  23. So here's a question.... by Scrab · · Score: 1

    Can it be developed so that it can reduce the speed of incoming projectiles? Like some kind of point defence.....speaker system.....

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  24. Good news! by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    Now we don't need ants to sort tiny screws in space!

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    1. Re:Good news! by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

      Now we don't need ants to sort tiny screws in space!

      And to think, I had just put up my "Hail Ants!" poster.

  25. Laugh by koan · · Score: 1

    "If the Empire is making a (sonic) tractor beam, now they only need a Death Star to go with it."

    Wouldnâ(TM)t work in space now would it...

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  26. In Space No One Can Hear You Scream ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or use a "tractor" beam that requires sound to manipulate objects.

  27. Why is everyone so obtuse? by DontBlameCanada · · Score: 1

    The crucial element here is the use of waves (in this case sound).

    The basic physics likely points to the possibility of using modulated light waves (or x-ray, gamma ray waves). Those propagate quite well in a vacuum. The question will be how much energy is needed to achieve the necessary wave density to manipulate objects.

    This is a pretty cool, imho.

  28. More like a pushing beam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The attraction relies on gravity's pull.
    I don't see where the speakers are applying an additional "pull" force.
    While neat the title needs adjustment.

  29. Misnomers by TheOneFreeman · · Score: 1

    There's an ongoing trend with technologies that are somewhat similar to sci-fi tropes but do not do what those devices do that is worrying these days, recent examples: 1. Hoverboards that require metal surfaces instead of floating over anything (you know, hover?) 2. Tractor beams that are actually high intensity wave generators, need a medium to travel through and do not have anywhere near the level of power and flexibility an actual tractor beam has (it's not even a beam!) This is not to diminish the achievement of the existing technologies but please stop calling them by the wrong names.

  30. Not even close to a "beam"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I won't consider anything a candidate for being called a "tractor beam" (emphasis on beam here) until the distance it works at is at *least* twice the size of the emitter.

    1. Re:Not even close to a "beam"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, we'll pass that right along to the researchers and ask them how many shits they give about what you think.

      I have a strong feeling it will be 'zero,' but you never know.

  31. Holding out for a radio tractor beam by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    Where is my radio tractor beam? I need to know.

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  32. Sound in space! by Bengie · · Score: 1

    If the Empire is making a tractor beam, now they only need a Death Star to go with it.

    Darned kids. In my day, sound didn't travel through space