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FDA Approves Drug That Uses Herpes Virus To Fight Cancer (nature.com)

An anonymous reader writes: U.S. regulators have approved a first-of-a-kind drug that uses the herpes virus to infiltrate and destroy melanoma. Nature reports: "With dozens of ongoing clinical trials of similar 'oncolytic' viruses, researchers hope that the approval will generate the enthusiasm and cash needed to spur further development of the approach. 'The era of the oncolytic virus is probably here,' says Stephen Russell, a cancer researcher and haematologist at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. 'I expect to see a great deal happening over the next few years.' Many viruses preferentially infect cancer cells. Malignancy can suppress normal antiviral responses, and sometimes the mutations that drive tumour growth also make cells more susceptible to infection. Viral infection can thus ravage a tumour while leaving abutting healthy cells untouched, says Brad Thompson, president of the pharmaceutical-development firm Oncolytics Biotech in Calgary, Canada."

76 comments

  1. I can believe it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used LSD and marijuana to cure my alcoholism.

    1. Re:I can believe it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I used LSD and marijuana to cure my alcoholism.

      I've heard that iboga is anothe very effective plant for treating addiction. Of course it's a Schedule 1 drug in the "Land Of The Free". Legal in Canada though, so I've also heard. The Schedule 1 classification is total bullshit. Iboga is not a "happy fun party drug" at all. It's not a pleasant experience. It's a trying experience during which you confront what is wrong with your life. Often you meet your ancestors and they help you discover why your life was so empty and meaningless that you acquired an addiction in the first place. Many, many people have been healed by this herb from Africa. But the moral busybodies just love telling you what you may or may not do with your own body, life, and consciousness. That's just sad.

    2. Re:I can believe it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used a combo of Turnera diffusa and Mitragyna speciosa. Haven't had the desire to drink in over 2 years.

    3. Re: I can believe it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fucking cancer!

    4. Re:I can believe it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lots of research was done on psychedelics following the discovery of LSD. And they were sometimes successful at treating various conditions. However the problem is that they tend to be unpredictable. That's probably the reason why they aren't used in treatment and that research has mostly (but not totally) died down.
      Iboga in particular may be effective in some cases, however it has also caused several deaths.

      It is just a matter of risk/benefits. It is understandable that doctors don't want to prescribe unpredictable drugs that may kill you, and it is understandable for the government to prevent people from abusing it (self-medication can be considered abuse too).I believe the US approach is a bit heavy handed but you get the idea.

  2. Herpes, the love bug, rides again. by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nice. How novel is that? As ugly as a cold sore is, how preferential it might be to eminent death...

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    1. Re:Herpes, the love bug, rides again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice. How novel is that? As ugly as a cold sore is, how preferential it might be to eminent death...

      preferable. imminent.

      (Sigh.)

      I guess in America death could be considered eminent, since so many people seem to worship it.

    2. Re:Herpes, the love bug, rides again. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

      preferable. imminent.

      (Sigh.)

      I guess in America death could be considered eminent, since so many people seem to worship it.

      Don't pick on him. Tonight I was watching Episode 4 of some dumb show on Netflix with Sean Bean called "Legends" (because my wife was grading papers and there was nothing else on) and I figured there's be some shooting and car chases to pass the time and they had a newscaster mis-using eminent the same way, as in an "attack is eminent". Some highly-paid scriptwriter should have their card revoked for that (and so should the surgeon who did Sean Bean's hair transplant. It looks like it was the same one who did Joe Biden).

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    3. Re:Herpes, the love bug, rides again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nice. How novel is that? As ugly as a cold sore is, how preferential it might be to eminent death...

      The virus is modified to preferrentially attack only melanoma cells and not healthy cells so there minimal chance of getting a cold sore.

    4. Re:Herpes, the love bug, rides again. by SydShamino · · Score: 1

      Unless of course the melanoma was on your lip...

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    5. Re:Herpes, the love bug, rides again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, there is no chance of getting a cold sore as that part of the virus has been removed

    6. Re:Herpes, the love bug, rides again. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      The "newscaster" should have still said it properly. Or maybe he's just one of those nuke-you-lear folks.

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    7. Re:Herpes, the love bug, rides again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It looks like it was the same one who did Joe Biden).

      Given the subject, it's pretty awkward to have you fail at grammar. Probably he did Joe Biden's, not Joe Biden himself, no?

    8. Re:Herpes, the love bug, rides again. by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      The theory is pretty old though, and well-known enough that there was a House episode on it (House VS God from Season 2).

      There have been recordings of cancer remissions and tumors being shrunken by viruses since the 19th century, and we've known for a long time that the herpes virus is particularly effective at this.

      What we didn't have before was a way to boost that efficacy to the level where it was a reliable treatment. Previous cases were almost entirely down to observed events in accidental infections. Of course, current cancer treatments are all rather bad for the immune system which actually made it more effective than it would have been if you were not getting those as well.

      The big change is that we can now modify genes - including virus RNA to take something that occasionally worked by accident, and make it into a reliable treatment.

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    9. Re:Herpes, the love bug, rides again. by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      Well... you never know..

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    10. Re:Herpes, the love bug, rides again. by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      Regarding the faux pas,

      I'm not finding a ton of solace in the literary inaccuracy immanent in Hollywood script crafting.

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    11. Re:Herpes, the love bug, rides again. by sociocapitalist · · Score: 1

      Nice. How novel is that? As ugly as a cold sore is, how preferential it might be to eminent death...

      Depends - are we talking about a teenager?

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    12. Re:Herpes, the love bug, rides again. by TheReaperD · · Score: 1

      It's a living organism, there is no such thing as "no chance" of anything. Living organisms mutate and do wildly unpredictable things in rare instances; hell, that's how we're able to discuss this. Now, that being said, the chances of something wildly rare and unpredictable happening with the virus versus the predictable sickness and death with the cancer, I'd take the virus any day but, not all people are that rational (just look at the anti-vaxxers).

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  3. Caves by anmre · · Score: 2

    mutations that drive tumour growth also make cells more susceptible to infection

    Interesting. Like cave dwelling creatures who've "lost" (by process of evolution) their sense of sight in order to enhance other senses. It's all good until some other creature invents a flashlight.

    1. Re:Caves by Chikungunya · · Score: 3, Informative

      Maybe not exactly like your example but more like creatures that lost their ability to run fast by overeating themselves to obesity, let loose a few bears and the fit ones will have much better chances of surviving.

      Cancer cells are in general very susceptible to infection, many times you can grow viruses in cell cultures coming from organisms that are not susceptible to that virus because the cultures are cancer cells. The problem is to make the virus lethal enough to kill efficiently the cancer but tame enough so the normal cells and organs are not affected too much. Similar to live vaccines but with a much more difficult balance to keep.

    2. Re:Caves by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Troll

      If I really wanted to get herpes I would fuck your mother. The problem is, she also has AIDS. Your mother's a slut!

      Someone just got here after watching the Republican debate.

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    3. Re:Caves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      their other senses have not been enhanced. Their sense of sight was just diminished because it wasn't useful.

    4. Re:Caves by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Try being blind for a few months. Your senses of touch, of spatial orientation, of proprioception, of hearing will all help fill in the blanks rather quickly. However, studies have shown that blind people also learn how to use the visual cortex to process data from their other senses, so they can be taught to echo-locate (if they haven't already learned themselves) quite impressively.

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    5. Re:Caves by Your.Master · · Score: 1

      Yes, but none of that implies that the cave-dwelling creatures selected for the loss of sight so that their visual cortex could be repurposed. They're blind regardless of whether they could see if introduced to light.

    6. Re:Caves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you saying the perceptions you mention are BEING ENHANCED due to the loss of sight?

      Or are you saying that you will use them more due to the loss of it?

      Because there is a very real difference between the two.

    7. Re: Caves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kinda both.

      Same way a gpu can be coopted for general computing. The visual cortex gets used to process sound into a 3d rendering.

    8. Re:Caves by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Somebody who was apparently very threatened by what they saw watching the debate and thus riled up.

    9. Re:Caves by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Yes, but none of that implies that the cave-dwelling creatures selected for the loss of sight so that their visual cortex could be repurposed. They're blind regardless of whether they could see if introduced to light.

      Never said it did. Just that the brain has a certain plasticity, and can repurpose parts to provide greater processing power for the other senses when blind (mri studies show this).

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  4. I Am Legend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, we are a step closer to I Am Legend.

  5. Zombies in 3, 2, 1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Herpes virus used to cure cancer, the premise of that Will Smith zombie movie awhile back.

    1. Re:Zombies in 3, 2, 1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not zombies. Vampires.

  6. Remedies A go go! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice! Fuck Marijuana! We got Herpes sinplex 10. Here. Rub this on your face. Oooooo, yeah, just like that.

    1. Re:Remedies A go go! by Adriax · · Score: 2

      Herpes for Health. Curing cancer one night stand at a time.

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    2. Re:Remedies A go go! by i+ate+my+neighbour · · Score: 1

      Maybe asking for a mercy fuck would be more reasonable now.

  7. Eminent death by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    Nice. How novel is that? As ugly as a cold sore is, how preferential it might be to eminent death...

    I dunno... it might be a close call if I could get an eminent death out of it.

  8. Lovely Not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fight Cancer.

    Get Herpes!

    Not an even exchange.

    Sorry.

  9. Good news for rock stars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They'll never get cancer!

  10. Sooo.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Around 1981 I managed to catch herpes from some equally drunken young lady and suffered for about 2 weeks without ever having any subsequent outbreaks. Does that mean I'm equally immune to this as a treatment?

    1. Re:Sooo.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it just means your cancer will get herpes outbreaks inside of you.

  11. No, no, no, baby! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not like that! I got cured from cancer!

  12. Vaccine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What if we already had an effective herpes vaccine? Wouldn't this treatment be ineffective in the immunized portion of the population?

  13. Old news by just___giver · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I first posted this 13 years ago. Sad how long it takes http://m.slashdot.org/story/40...

    1. Re:Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      13 yrs ago someone was telling me to invest in both google and /.

      I guess I bet on the wrong horse.

    2. Re:Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      13 yrs ago someone was telling me to invest in both google and /.

      I guess I bet on the wrong horse.

      I don't know about that. Next April is the 10th anniversary of OMG PONIES. :D

    3. Re:Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reovirus is not a type of herpes virus.

    4. Re:Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also not sure if they ever got FDA approval for their line of REO virus for intralesional injection.

  14. Nice! by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    So like Legend but bad (distasteful sores)...

  15. herpes virus to fight cancer by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

    sweet, I'll never get cancer!

  16. Virus piggyback cell reproduction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think you'll find it isn't that Viruses preferentially infect cancer cells, its that by definition, a cancel cell grows fast than a non-cancer cell.

    And since Viruses piggy back onto the cell reproduction, then they get the faster growth too. So of course they would attack cancer cells more, because the cancer cells have a faster reproduction, so they make more viruses.

  17. What does it cost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What does it cost, roughly, too get this kind of Slashvertisment?

    Do you pay them straight out cash, or is it more of a hookers and blow thing?

  18. Market looks cornered already. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLcXvgv4FYI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzs-09Of99I

    From here.
    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8241145&cid=50822911

  19. Could we PLEASE cure herpes, then, too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please!? Come on, medical researchers, if you're playing around with the goddamned herpes virus, could you please cure it while you're at it!? Please!?

    1. Re:Could we PLEASE cure herpes, then, too? by chilenexus · · Score: 1

      Would it be worth it, if by curing herpes they end up making people immune to a cure for cancer?

  20. because this has worked so well in nature... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    introducing one species to control or eliminate another......

  21. Re:American SEX! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You sound like a fat person trying to defend your disgusting looks, smell and lifestyle.

  22. Miracles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What if, just what if the rare "miracle cure" from cancer have been an exotic viral infection in some far away place? It was not the giving your little money to the foreign priest that just arrived and promised a miracle cure if you only believe, but that visit to the local cave with bats and spiders.

  23. Hmmmmmmm by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    "FDA Approves Drug That Uses Herpes Virus To Fight Cancer"

    I have to admit, I feel somewhat conflicted about this.

    And what about people who already have herpes, can they get a discount?

    Disclaimer: I lived through the 1970's and didn't get herpes, a fact that I'm rather proud of considering all of the sleazy girls I banged during that decade. Luck of the draw, I guess.

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  24. Borg by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    Many viruses preferentially infect cancer cells. Malignancy can suppress normal antiviral responses, and sometimes the mutations that drive tumour growth also make cells more susceptible to infection.

    I suspect the tumors will just add the viruses uniqueness to its own.

  25. Instantly thought of Ice Pirates! Space Herpie by Tighe_L · · Score: 1

    What a great movie. The late great Robert Urich. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  26. I work with one of the authors! by DaemonDan · · Score: 2

    This is so cool! I work just down the hall from Dr. Kaufman at CINJ. His lab is one of the labs developing these herpes virus cancer therapies. My lab uses vaccinia, the smallpox vaccine virus, doing similar research (I'm also working on a melanoma model). We use GM-CSF just like this one, but also add in some tumor-specific antigens to increase targeting to the tumors. It's quite exciting stuff, and we even had a promising clinical trial against pancreatic cancer recently.

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    1. Re:I work with one of the authors! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please continue working on the melanoma model! The other therapies were killing me faster than the cancer, now I am all on the "luck" therapy.

  27. Would this cure be transmittable the old way? by chilenexus · · Score: 1

    It would be interesting if the discount plan for administering this cure was to sleep with your doctor. (Doesn't hurt that my doctor is the opposite gender as I, and definitely not unattractive)

    Just think, they could rename brothels to be "treatment centers".

  28. Re: Father is also chemo damaged, die of treatment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have experience with that as my father was diagnosed with stage IV colorectal cancer and his chemotherapy is killing him faster than his cancer. Here is an email I sent to his oncologist, demanding he be taken off of chemo with the evidence I gathered that chemo was a bigger threat than his cancer currently. The oncologist only responded by cutting off contact.

    The email:

    I have been talking to my father. He has been experiencing a loss of appetite, a side effect shared by Avastation[1], Oxaliplatin[2] and 5-Fu[3] which he is receiving. Today he ate just some yogurt and a half cup of soup all day. He also has difficulty swallowing[1], and is experiencing taste changes[3]. He has a low white blood cell count[3], which means his immune system is also comprised thanks to chemo[4]. When eating certain foods like bread he has nausea[1, 2, 3]. Cancer is a wasting disease, even without chemo patients have difficulty maintaining bodyweight. The chemo you are giving him is making it even harder for him to maintain bodyweight. My uncle says he looks like a starving African.

    According to the published journal literature, in contributing positively to 5 year survival, chemotherapy, is only effective in less than 3% of cases[5]. More specific research to the type of cancer my father has reveals: "stage II colon cancer patients who received chemotherapy treatment were more likely to have poor [quality of life], recurrence, and all-cause mortality after 24 months compared to those who did not receive chemotherapy."[6] A study on the use of chemo in end stage cancer, since my father is in Stage IV, maintains in its conclusion: "The [quality of life near death] in patients with end-stage cancer is not improved, and can be harmed, by chemotherapy use near death, even in patients with good performance status."[7]

    In the Family Leave Form you kindly filled out(which I do appreciate) for my employer you stated that one of the reasons my father needed care was, "Terminal stage colorectal cancer with cognitive failure." According to the research again, while cognitive impairment is present in many cancer patients before treatment, chemo is known to increase the incidence of impairment[8]. In another field you entered: "He [sic] hospitalized 3 times due to toxicity secondary to treatment," which I read as him being hospitalized because he received chemo, not because he has cancer.

    I would appreciate it for all these reasons if effective immediately you cease administering chemotherapy to my father, who you noted has "cognitive failure" and is under the mistaken impression he has a benign tumor and will live indefinitely, so that he can enjoy some measure of a quality of life in his last days and months alive. If it is required when I arrive in Greece, I will have to tell him the truth and explain to him his real prognosis and how chemo is at this point a bigger threat than his cancer, but I don't want to drop this bomb over the phone and into my uncle's lap who himself is not well and has multiple sclerosis.

    I am not attacking you in a professional capacity, because this is basically what I expect from every doctor and which is why I avoid doctors. I am sure oncologists in the USA are just as in love in with ineffective chemotherapy and just as forbidden from doing anything else. I would appreciate it if I can receive pathology, MRI Scan and surgical reports(if any), two blood tests (CBC,SMA-24) no older than two weeks on my father so I can take him abroad for 2-3 weeks somewhere(not the USA as our cancer care is just as chemo centered) so he can gain some bodyweight, improve his white blood count(immune system) and generally get healthier, instead of focusing exclusively on killing his cancer with chemo to the point that he obviously currently has a very low quality of life, since it cannot discriminate between healthy and cancer cells.

    [1] http://www.drugs.com/sfx/avastin-side-effects.html
    [2]

  29. ahead of the game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With all the pussy I get, I picked a few things along the way. But at least I won't get cancer!

  30. Reminds me of a Strangers With Candy episode by valles · · Score: 1
  31. Re:"It's working Neville - it's working" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're biting off my style from long ago

    "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - mere paper roses"

    Arrogance of the highest order purveyed by the most delusional visitor to slash dot since michael kristopeit. Nobody gives a shit what you think you invented asshole.

  32. Wrong & you care + /.'ers disagree... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Nobody gives a shit" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 29, 2015 @09:54PM (#50830169)

    A projecting reply from your primitive brain gives it away & a sampling of /.'ers contrary opinions outnumbering you:

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    "Arrogance of the highest order purveyed by the most delusional visitor to slash dot" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 29, 2015 @09:54PM (#50830169)

    You've delusions of grandeur you're a psychiatric pro, lmao!

    I'm somebody and somebody who does others right.

    You're just cowardly unidentifiable scum and you KNOW it. It's why you hide by unidentifiable ac posts + why you're an unimaginative unskilled douche nobody in computing!

    Above all else:

    IT'S NOT POLITE TO TALK WITH YOUR MOUTH FULL & YOURS IS - full of your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH ramming down those WORDS OF YOURS YOU MUST EAT washed down w/ the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" (the story of your wasted low life... lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> YOU fail vs. my SUPERIOR factual firepower vs. your (lol) "ne'er-do-well'ism" (for lack of a better description - It's hard for the likes of me to comprehend wastes of life like you)... apk

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