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First Liquid-Cooling Laser Could Advance Biological Research (washington.edu)

Posted by Soulskill on from the or-wage-war-against-unruly-cells dept.

Zothecula writes: In a world where lasers are sci-fi's weapon of choice for melting away an enemy spaceship, researchers at the University of Washington have swum against the current and produced the first laser capable of cooling liquids. " They demonstrated that the laser could refrigerate saline solution and cell culture media that are commonly used in genetic and molecular research. To achieve the breakthrough, the UW team used a material commonly found in commercial lasers but essentially ran the laser phenomenon in reverse. They illuminated a single microscopic crystal suspended in water with infrared laser light to excite a unique kind of glow that has slightly more energy than that amount of light absorbed. This higher-energy glow carries heat away from both the crystal and the water surrounding it." The technology could be especially useful for slowing down single cells and allowing scientists to study biological processes as they happen.

55 comments

  1. Proper use of lasers in sci-fi by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    >> lasers are sci-fi's weapon of choice for melting away an enemy spaceship

    No, I think lasers are sci-fi's weapon of choice for whittling down deflector shields.

    1. Re:Proper use of lasers in sci-fi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you explain to me exactly what a disruptor beam is?

    2. Re:Proper use of lasers in sci-fi by decipher_saint · · Score: 2

      Well, first you get some Corbomite...

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    3. Re:Proper use of lasers in sci-fi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Disruption radiating outwards in a beamlike configuration.

    4. Re:Proper use of lasers in sci-fi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I think you're a fuckwit.

    5. Re:Proper use of lasers in sci-fi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You had the most legitimate possible opportunity to shout "Frosty Piss", and inexplicably, you didn't.

  2. Nearly twenty years later by gcnaddict · · Score: 2

    and Mr. Freeze's weapon of choice has finally arrived.

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    1. Re:Nearly twenty years later by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      and Mr. Freeze's weapon of choice has finally arrived.

      I was thinking they need these in Dubai for their jet-pack equipped firefighters!

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    2. Re: Nearly twenty years later by ememisya · · Score: 1

      "Chill"

    3. Re:Nearly twenty years later by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

      >> they need these in Dubai for their jet-pack equipped firefighters!

      Have you been to the UAE? When I first heard about that I thought they were just planning to launch Filipinos* at the fire until it was smothered.

      * = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  3. A freeze ray? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    Wow, that sounds awesome ... I might have to RTFA even.

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    1. Re:A freeze ray? by knarfling · · Score: 5, Funny

      but essentially ran the laser phenomenon in reverse

      Are you telling me that reversing the polarity actually WORKS??!!

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    2. Re:A freeze ray? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Apparently something works ... cooling, but with frickin' lasers.

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    3. Re:A freeze ray? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, when you think of classical physics, and the whole "Every action has an opposite and equal reaction" running many things in reverse suddenly makes a lot of sense. The trick is figuring out the method to running it in reverse, as the method for running it forwards is usually entirely different.

  4. Typical Liberal Thinking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Liberal demoncraps: Invent a laser to cool liquids.
    Conservative republicans: use ice from the fridge.

    I can think of no clearer illustration of why liberal demoncraps are always stealing more of your money. It's because they don't understand simple concepts and instead throw money at a problem until they lose interest. Like monkeys flinging poop. Because liberal democraps hate you and want your stuff.

    1. Re:Typical Liberal Thinking by Adriax · · Score: 3, Funny

      Billy, if you're going to play you have to submit a character sheet for your character before you start roleplaying. You can't just jump in like this.
      Besides, there are already a lot of level 1 trolls running around. Maybe try another class, like druid or scholar.

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    2. Re:Typical Liberal Thinking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Know what I think?
      I think you should go back to 4chan/pol/, and furthermore spend more time at your other favorite passtime (sucking cocks and swallowing jizz) instead of showing us what a gigantic faggot you are by posting your pseudo-political reactionary drivel on internet discussion forums. Go back to your containment unit and stay there, or the straitjacket goes back on.

      P.S.: Memo to your mommy: You need to keep Junior off the Internets, he's embarassing you. Oh and by the way jizzing in your ass last night was awesome as usual, don't spend the $20 all in one place.

    3. Re:Typical Liberal Thinking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Know what I think?
      I think you should go back to 4chan/pol/, and furthermore spend more time at your other favorite passtime (sucking cocks and swallowing jizz) instead of showing us what a gigantic faggot you are by posting your pseudo-political reactionary drivel on internet discussion forums. Go back to your containment unit and stay there, or the straitjacket goes back on.

      P.S.: Memo to your mommy: You need to keep Junior off the Internets, he's embarassing you. Oh and by the way jizzing in your ass last night was awesome as usual, don't spend the $20 all in one place.

      I see progressive "tolerance" is alive and well.

      How DARE you threaten their coddled viewpoints!

  5. Bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fricken' sharks are gonna get stuck in ice

  6. Ive worked on some of this research. by nimbius · · Score: 4, Funny

    Originally we'd set out for a liquid cooled laser that could be affixed to a large mobile rigging and dynamically targeted while immersed in a saline coolant. this proved difficult due to budgetary and logistics constraints (our director was none too pleased.) However we found a similar biomedical project had succeeded in mounting a laser to a subspecies of the Dicentrarchus labrax with only mild side effect of distemperment.

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  7. Refrigeration laser by kheldan · · Score: 1

    Can we send a ship into the sun's photosphere now?

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    1. Re:Refrigeration laser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We still need Tursiops crewmen. I blame the bio team for holding us up.

    2. Re:Refrigeration laser by kheldan · · Score: 1

      I'm more with Larry Niven on the subject of dolphins, as soon as we enhance them to the point where they can have real conversations with us, they'll be suing us (humans, in general) for a few decades over how they've been treated over the centuries.

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    3. Re:Refrigeration laser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends. Do you want it back?

  8. Anti-stokes shift by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Aside from the science fiction spin of the summary, the ACTUAL science going on here is called an anti-Stokes shift. When light is absorbed and re-emitted, more commonly some of the light energy is converted to heat (phonons), resulting in the emitted light having slightly longer wavelength (Stokes shift). If there is a strong resonance in absorption at a particular wavelength, emitted light will tend to be closer to the resonant wavelength, even if the absorbed light is of lower energy and requires absorbing heat (a phonon) to generate the higher energy photon for emission.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stokes_shift

  9. I challenge you by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    I challenge you to find me one person who successfully made it past that headline without thinking "Haven't liquid cooled lasers existed since the laser was first discovered?"

    1. Re:I challenge you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Challenge accepted. I'm that person.

  10. Now we need transparent aluminum by jmcwork · · Score: 1

    To make beer cans!

    1. Re:Now we need transparent aluminum by bruce_the_loon · · Score: 1

      That would be the worst beer in the world. Beer needs darkness, light damages the taste.

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    2. Re: Now we need transparent aluminum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be Corona.

  11. Maybe don't assume all readers are idiots. by mpoulton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "To achieve the breakthrough, the UW team used a material commonly found in commercial lasers but essentially ran the laser phenomenon in reverse. They illuminated a single microscopic crystal suspended in water with infrared laser light to excite a unique kind of glow that has slightly more energy than that amount of light absorbed."

    That is the most detailed explanation in the article of what this phenomenon is and how it works. No names, either for the phenomenon or the materials involved. No numbers, or even quantitative comparisons. No links to the actual research. Who do they think reads this stuff? Random people aren't looking at long-form articles on research posted to university websites. Their whole audience would appreciate a lot more detail than they're giving us.

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    1. Re:Maybe don't assume all readers are idiots. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This might be their paper: http://arxiv.org/abs/1503.07265

      "The cold Brownian motion (CBM) analysis of individual YLF crystals indicates local cooling by >21 C below ambient conditions suggesting a range of potential future applications."

    2. Re:Maybe don't assume all readers are idiots. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No names, either for the phenomenon or the materials involved. No numbers, or even quantitative comparisons. No links to the actual research.

      Right, because clicking two links to find the research was too hard. It took me less than 30 seconds to find the article on Peter Pauzauskie's webpage which is linked from the article.

  12. The rest of the story... by slew · · Score: 4, Informative

    FWIW, they've been doing laser-doppler cooling for a while (all the articles you hear about cooling atoms down near absolute zero generally used laser-doppler cooling). This anti-stokes technique is very similar to the laser-dopper cooling technique in that both involve on average the emission of photons at higher mean energy than those absorbed.

    In the case of laser doppler cooling, you illuminate a batch of atoms with a laser from multiple directions at a slightly lower frequency than a transitional energy state. Atoms that are thermally in motion, but are instantaneously moving towards one of the lasers will absorb more photons (because doppler blue-shift makes the atom see the slightly higher frequency matching its transition energy state from the laser if it is moving towards from laser) causing the atom to lose net momentum in that direction and become slightly cooler (mostly because the photon will be re-emitted in a random direction).

    In the case of the anti-stokes technique, you need to construct a system that has florescence (emits light a certain frequency when excited) with a bandgap, you then need to pump the energy into the system at the lower frequency. The trick (which is what makes this hard), is that the system needs to be tuned so that the energy you pump in is more efficiently converted into florescence energy than general thermal heating and the photons that are released by florescence can efficiently leave the system to avoid secondary heating.

    Anti-stokes is interesting because it has the potential to be able to cool things microscopically (rather than at the atomic scale only).

    AFAIKT, this team pulled out quite a few stops to setup this system. Apparently, they setup a laser trap to localize the florescent crystal (doped-YLF) and the "liquid" was D2O (deuterium or heavy water) to get the right thermal gradients for the laser trap for their experiment.

    If you are interested, you can read about it here.

  13. Already been accomplised by TheDan666 · · Score: 1

    Chris Knight at Pacific Tech discovered this laser technology years ago..

    1. Re:Already been accomplised by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Naa, his laser was used to pop popcorn, so therefore it was heating the foil.

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  14. Duke Nukem Freeze Ray Gun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one welcome our new alien overlords... so that I can freeze them and shatter them with my mighty foot!

  15. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #2/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

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    "your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    No, hosts do due to WFP/SFP - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

    ---

    "won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen by others so it's misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

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    "What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it using process monitor + wireshark to prove it (don't need code)!

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    "the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I place hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - you'd spot it easily & bulk of hosts is sorted blocked known bad threats.

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    "What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    Hasn't happened..

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    "They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    It works there!

    Telemetry tracking's killing 10 by itself! Win10 = Win8: A flop - who're you fooling other than yourself?

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #3/5... apk

  16. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #1/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Where'd I say it? Show us. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

    + Migrate hosts across a LAN (admin/scripts not GPO)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    I'm RIGHT on admin priv + hosts (WFP/SFP)!

    "figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

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    "it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it!

    Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

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    "Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Stupid, mine doesn't to get new data. Only hosts itself updates need it vs WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

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    "90's technology to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

    "I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

    It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET said hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts+recommends APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #2/5... apk

  17. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #3/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    62 sources of good repute show + /. users say otherwise:

    Proven safe by 57 antivirus programs in its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Same for the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Per VirScan its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news... /.'ers say my work is good too:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    ---

    You tried using Computer Associates another antivirus I turned over on false positives (1/8 over time) & they were caught in ACCOUNTING SCANDALS FRAUD http://www.bing.com/search?q=c...

    Reputable source (not): They had to sell off their PC security suite too (crap also) LOWERING the 'threat level' on THAT program (not my hosts file engine) TO ZERO!

    * YOU ARE WRONG ON EVERY ACCOUNT NOTED!

    APK

    P.S.=> To be continued in part #4/5... apk

    1. Re:Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #3/5... apk by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      It looks like your poorly coded script might be overwhelmed by the traffic. It doesn't seem able to count anymore.

      2, 1, 3, 4, 5, 1, 3 is not the order of your posts, you will have to start all over again from the beginning and do it right now!

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  18. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #4/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

    "introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    How can my program do it?

    Only things it puts in as non-blocking IP addy to hostnames is ones users give it as their favs to speed up @ the TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

    (For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

    YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY AS THEY ARE @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out of it!

    (Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

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    "maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods making you "eat your words" vs. me (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

    +5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://science.slashdot.org/co...
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
    http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
    http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    "You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in tech fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt! You did it to yourself.

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #5/5... apk

  19. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #5/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "defame me saying things he knows aren't true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    Hypocrite you're projecting & your signatures do the rest.

    "the feeling of icky his software - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    I show /.'ers say differently by quoted testimonials - Show us you've done better: YOU can't!

    "maybe someone will think they are true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    Quotes of you = true - & You can't keep your word + projecting what YOU do (AD/DNS lie).

    "I don't have time for the Troll APK, and refuse to respond anymore to a post signed APK" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

    I protect users speeding them up, helping reliability, & security + anonymity online w/ more ability & efficiency than ANY 1 solution doing more w/ less - do you? No.

    "I should change my signature again to rile him up more." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

    Childish sigs = all you've got!

    "I refuted his assertions - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    &

    "You claim I have never proved you wrong...a flat out lie." - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

    &

    "I proved you wrong on numerous occasions" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

    Where & on what tech? "Cat got your tongue"??

    "written in shitty Delphi, "How to secure Windows" docs I could have written in my sleep when I was 20" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2016

    You're 30++ & haven't done either!

    Show you've done MORE vs.a small partial list of mine & better, + earlier:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    THEN talk vs. TALKING OUT YOUR ASS!

    CIS Tool took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... which you doubted & my layered security guides got me paid http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn... MILLIONS use.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "I never admit you were right" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    You PROVED I AM... apk

  20. No kidding. This reads like magic. by trout007 · · Score: 2

    Here is how I understand it. Imagine you have a bunch of fat kids on swings. The swinging represents the kinetic motion of the atoms. If you measure the motion of each kid carefully and shoot a tennis ball at the kid when they are traveling towards you, you can slow them down. If you shoot enough balls at them you can slow them nearly to a stop.

    Replace fat kids with the atoms in this crystal and tennis balls with photons and you have your cooling laser.

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  21. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #1/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Where'd I say it? Show us. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

    + Migrate hosts across a LAN (admin/scripts not GPO)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    I'm RIGHT on admin priv + hosts (WFP/SFP)!

    "figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

    ---

    "it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it!

    Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

    ---

    "Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Stupid, mine doesn't to get new data. Only hosts itself updates need it vs WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

    ---

    "90's technology to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

    "I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

    It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET said hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts+recommends APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #2/5... apk

  22. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #3/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    62 sources of good repute show + /. users say otherwise:

    Proven safe by 57 antivirus programs in its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Same for the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Per VirScan its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news... /.'ers say my work is good too:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    ---

    You tried using Computer Associates another antivirus I turned over on false positives (1/8 over time) & they were caught in ACCOUNTING SCANDALS FRAUD http://www.bing.com/search?q=c...

    Reputable source (not): They had to sell off their PC security suite too (crap also) LOWERING the 'threat level' on THAT program (not my hosts file engine) TO ZERO!

    * YOU ARE WRONG ON EVERY ACCOUNT NOTED!

    APK

    P.S.=> To be continued in part #4/5... apk

  23. Could the be the beginning of my dream of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Could the be the beginning of my dream of reverse "microwave" appliance that could quickly cool food?

    1. Re:Could the be the beginning of my dream of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having my food glow is probably the last thing I want - unless I'm running a Halloween / radioactive party I guess.

  24. Ironically, it takes a bit of time to warm up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It also requires Wonderflonium, which means the device should be protected from bouncing.

  25. Coffee too hot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What your coffee is too hot. I'l just shine this little gizmo on it and cool it to any temperature you choose.

  26. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #1/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Where'd I say it? Show us. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there on OpenDNS free (I use it) + AD in my security guide.

    + how to migrate hosts across a LAN (admin/scripts not GPO)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    I'm RIGHT on admin priv + hosts (WFP/SFP)!

    "figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

    ---

    "it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it!

    Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

    ---

    "Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

    ---

    "90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

    "I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

    It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts+recommends APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #2/5... apk

  27. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #2/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    62 sources of good repute show + /. users say otherwise:

    Proven safe by 57 antivirus programs in its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Same for the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Per VirScan its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news... /.'ers say my work is good too:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    ---

    You tried using Computer Associates antivirus that I overturned on false positives (1/8 over time) were caught in ACCOUNTING SCANDALS FRAUD http://www.bing.com/search?q=c...

    Reputable source (not): They had to sell off their PC security suite too (crap too) LOWERING the 'threat level' on THAT program (not my hosts file engine) TO ZERO!

    * YOU ARE WRONG ON EVERY ACCOUNT NOTED!

    APK

    P.S.=> To be continued in part #3/5... apk

  28. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #3/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

    ---

    "your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    No, hosts do due to WFP/SFP - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

    ---

    "won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen by others so it's misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

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    "What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it using process monitor + wireshark to prove it (don't need code)!

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    "the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    I place hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - you'd spot it easily & bulk of hosts is sorted blocked known bad threats.

    ---

    "What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    Hasn't happened!

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    "They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015 @04:14PM (#50904323)

    It works there!

    Telemetry tracking's killing 10 by itself: Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #4/5... apk

  29. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #4/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

    "introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    How can my program do it?

    Only things it puts in as non-blocking IP addy to hostnames is ones users give it as their favs to speed up @ the TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

    (For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

    YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY AS THEY ARE @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out of it!

    (Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

    ---

    "maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods making you "eat your words" vs. me (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

    +5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://science.slashdot.org/co...
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
    http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
    http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    "You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

    YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in tech fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt! You did it to yourself.

    APK

    P.S.=> Con't. in #5/5... apk

  30. Coren22's "greatest hits" fails #5/5... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "defame me saying things he knows aren't true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    Hypocrite You're projecting & your signatures do the rest.

    "the feeling of icky his software - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    I show /.'ers say differently by quoted testimonials - Show us you've done better: YOU can't!

    "maybe someone will think they are true - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    Quotes of you = true - & You can't keep your word + projecting what YOU do (AD/DNS lie).

    "I don't have time for the Troll APK, and refuse to respond anymore to a post signed APK" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

    I protect users speeding them up, helping reliability, & security + anonymity online w/ more ability & efficiency than ANY 1 solution doing more w/ less - do you? No.

    "I should change my signature again to rile him up more." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015

    Childish sigs = all you've got!

    "I refuted his assertions - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 04, 2015

    &

    "You claim I have never proved you wrong...a flat out lie." - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

    &

    "I proved you wrong on numerous occasions" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2015

    Where & on what tech? "Cat got your tongue"??

    "written in shitty Delphi, "How to secure Windows" docs I could have written in my sleep when I was 20" - by Coren22 on Monday November 16, 2016

    You're 30++ & haven't done either!

    Show you've done MORE vs.a small partial list of mine & better, + earlier:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    THEN talk vs. TALKING OUT YOUR ASS!

    CIS Tool took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... which you doubted & my layered security guides got me paid http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn... MILLIONS use.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "I never admit you were right" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

    You PROVED I am... apk