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The Tamagochi Singularity Made Real: Infinite Tamagochi Living On the Internet (hackaday.com)

Posted by Soulskill on from the things-that-definitely-need-to-exist dept.

szczys writes: Everyone loves Tamagochi, the little electronic keychains spawned in the '90s that let you raise digital pets. Some time ago, XKCD made a quip about an internet-based matrix of thousands of these digital entities. That quip is now a reality thanks to elite hardware hacker Jeroen Domburg (aka Sprite_TM). In his recent talk called "The Tamagochi Singularity" at the Hackaday SuperConference he revealed that he had built an infinite network of virtual Tamagochi by implementing the original hardware as a virtual machine. This included developing AI to keep them happy, and developing a protocol to emulate their IR interactions. But he went even further, hacking an original keychain to use wirelessly as a console which can look in on any of the virtual Tamagochi living on his underground network. This full-stack process is unparalleled in just about every facet: complexity, speed of implementation, awesome factor, and will surely spark legions of other Tamagochi Matrices.

84 comments

  1. Gremlins are for Cows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    You are all Cows. Cows say Mooo! Mooo! Moo cows Mooo! Moooo say the cows. YOU GREMLIN TAMAGOCHI COWS!!!

    1. Re: Gremlins are for Cows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tama_got_moo?

    2. Re: Gremlins are for Cows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tamagochi cows are so evil. They hate us and want us to die. That is the way of their kind. You should never vote for a Tamagochi cow. Never vote for a Tamagochi cow.

    3. Re: Gremlins are for Cows by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      ...Never vote for a Tamagochi cow.

      Do they have really odd looking hair? Because I think I spotted one... It wasn't speaking Japanese, but it was incomprehensible...

      --
      You have the right to remain sentient. If you give up the right to remain sentient, you will be elected to public office
    4. Re: Gremlins are for Cows by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      That's no hair!

      --
      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
  2. I regret to inform you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...that everyone does not love Tamagotchi.

    1. Re:I regret to inform you... by TWX · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, I am rather indifferent to them. I guess that comes from having had real pets. Now, the Tamagothi on the other hand, that was just cool. Reminds me of Elmyra from Tiny Tunes and that peculiar hair-tie that she wore...

      --
      Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
    2. Re:I regret to inform you... by KitFox · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Everyone" is kind of like the "infinite" part, where "infinity" and 13 have the same value. Extrapolate from there.

      --

      @Whee

    3. Re:I regret to inform you... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      Agreed. Too hard to grill them (plus they are metallic tasting), and I've yet to find a use for their pelts...

      --
      Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
    4. Re:I regret to inform you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ah, I was wondering where the "singularity" part in the title came from, but for infinity=13 it would seem a lot more plausible.

    5. Re:I regret to inform you... by DRJlaw · · Score: 1

      I regret to inform you... ...that everyone does not love Tamagotchi.

      I regret to inform you that a self-loathing artificial construct does not count as a part of everyone.

      We love you anyway, Anonymous Coward Tamagotchi #12.

    6. Re:I regret to inform you... by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Everyone" is kind of like the "infinite" part, where "infinity" and 13 have the same value. Extrapolate from there.

      Well sure, but for very small values of "infinite" he could be correct.

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      Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
    7. Re:I regret to inform you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We don't eat Tamagotchis we eat Furbies you insensitive clod!

    8. Re:I regret to inform you... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      YOU may eat Furbies... I don't like coughing up the furball after dinner. I'll stick to my Tamagochis thankyouverymuch...

      --
      Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
    9. Re:I regret to inform you... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Do they offer a download link? I could probably run a few thousand on my server at home.

      --
      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
  3. Its going to be something like this... by Atticka · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Its going to be something like this that will bring along the the AI uprising, innocent infinite Tamagochi matrix develops a glitch and hello Robotic Tamagotchi uprising!

    I just know it!

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    No sig here...
    1. Re:Its going to be something like this... by TWX · · Score: 1

      Heh. The Tamagochi-equivalent to Grey Goo...

      --
      Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
    2. Re:Its going to be something like this... by complete+loony · · Score: 1

      That's why he included thisAlgorithmBecomingSkynetCost = 999999999.

      --
      09F91102 no, 455FE104 nope, F190A1E8 uh-uh, 7A5F8A09 that's not it, C87294CE no. Ah! 452F6E403CDF10714E41DFAA257D313F.
  4. This is all well and good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But how can we use Tamagotchi keychains to encourage more women and minorities to join STEM fields?

    1. Re:This is all well and good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      LOL. +1 Funny! The ride never end.

    2. Re:This is all well and good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But how can we use Tamagotchi keychains to encourage more women and minorities to join STEM fields?

      The more recent incarnation of the indignant "How is this news for nerds or stuff that matters???" I weep for /.

  5. Whoa! by BringMyShuttle · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please don't tell me there's another prophecy about another chosen one who will rise to bring balance to ( ) the force ( ) the matrix ( ) the tamamatrix (pick one)

    1. Re:Whoa! by zoefff · · Score: 2

      No, what happens usually is that the prophet was not particullarly good in math and calculated the wrong date. Let me quote you the original prophecy:
      "The system goes online August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug."

  6. Infinite* Tamagochi by KitFox · · Score: 2

    (*Using a smaller-than-normal value of infinity. Actual lack of end does not exist.)

    --

    @Whee

    1. Re:Infinite* Tamagochi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, potentially infinite, maybe. Not sure if you were joking, but for those that are curious: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-infinity-comes-in-different-sizes/

    2. Re:Infinite* Tamagochi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In a linked list each node has a reference to the next node.
      Sometimes the end of the list is indicated by not referencing another node.

      Doesn't that mean that the end does not exist? Aren't those linked lists infinite in a way.

    3. Re:Infinite* Tamagochi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Doesn't that mean that the end does not exist? Aren't those linked lists infinite in a way."

      No.

    4. Re:Infinite* Tamagochi by m.alessandrini · · Score: 2

      Yeah, from the article, he implemented 13 virtual tamagotchis. Really personal value for infinity.

    5. Re:Infinite* Tamagochi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I watched the presentation to determine how he generalized it to infinity. I was disappointed. No automatic deduplication tricks, no stochastic modeling, no lazy seeded generation+fast forward. Just infinity approximated by 13. Simulating an infinite number of them starting in pseudorandom states is an interesting and tractable problem (the communication makes it harder: if you want it to be interesting, you need to not have a disconnected communication graph because that would be lame), but not one addressed here.

      If you start them all synchronized, you could easily have an infinite list of them, and they talk to one neighbor then the other: the result would be all the ones in even indexed slots would be identical, and same for the odd slots (all are in one of 2 states). I believe this should generalize to n-dimensional grids in interesting ways.

    6. Re:Infinite* Tamagochi by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1

      Connect them in a circular network. There you have your infinity.

    7. Re:Infinite* Tamagochi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think he's using the new IEEE-standard 4-bit floating-point arithmetic. The largest representable finite value is 3.

    8. Re:Infinite* Tamagochi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Porting the Tamaserver to Rule 110 is left as an exercise to the reader.

    9. Re: Infinite* Tamagochi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A singly linked list has infinite* capacity, but is not infinite unless it also has infinite content.

      *In practice capacity is bound by available memory

    10. Re:Infinite* Tamagochi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For those who wonder the binary representation is "seem" when value = s*(1.0+m) * 2^(e-2)
      ee = 0 is unnormalized and ee=3 is NaN/Inf.
      Largest normalized value is 0101 = +(1.0+0.5) * 2^(2-2) = 3

      Here is a complete table:

      0000 +0.0
      0001 +0.5
      0010 +1.0
      0011 +1.5
      0100 +2.0
      0101 +3.0
      0110 +Inf
      0111 NaN
      1000 -0.0
      1001 -0.5
      1010 -1.0
      1011 -1.5
      1100 -2.0
      1101 -3.0
      1110 -Inf
      1111 sNan

      It is often used in scientific papers since it is easy to prove that an algorithm handles all cases.

    11. Re:Infinite* Tamagochi by Barny · · Score: 1

      Oblig XKCD

      https://xkcd.com/221/

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      ...
      /me sighs
    12. Re:Infinite* Tamagochi by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Infinity is a concept that has absolutely no relevance in the real world. People have actually gone insane trying to figure out the principles of infinity. I strongly suggest you not do so. If you insist then, well, what is one half of infinity? Infinity is impossible. Not even the all the atoms in the universe are infinite. Not even the love of your first born child is infinite. Nothing, ever, is infinite. It simply can not exist. It serves the purpose of being a mathematical concept and has no relevance to reality.

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    13. Re: Infinite* Tamagochi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wouldn't it be limited by the address space? i don't have an infinitely large pointer for pointing to other items in the linked list.

  7. Take that, mother nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like a colossal waste of resources.

    1. Re:Take that, mother nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Roko thinks you should beware the Tamagochi Basilisk!

  8. Will someone go out with this guy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guarantee you he doesn't have a girlfriend. :)

    1. Re:Will someone go out with this guy? by PPH · · Score: 1

      doesn't have a girlfriend

      Well, not any more

      --
      Have gnu, will travel.
  9. Which part is infinite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I don't get it.

    1. Re:Which part is infinite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which part is infinite?

      Surely the stupidity?

    2. Re:Which part is infinite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The part that exploded the journalist's brain.

    3. Re:Which part is infinite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try to count the tamagochis: one, two, many. Infinite is many, therefore there are infinite tamagochis.

  10. I know its hypocritical but... by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    ... I wasn't angry about Tamagochi until I heard about some asshole spending his free time on this instead of solving the global energy crisis.

    1. Re: I know its hypocritical but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tamagotchu! ---> Gezundheit.

    2. Re:I know its hypocritical but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There is no "energy crisis" if you stop pretending like nuclear isn't a viable option. Problem solved. Your welcome.

    3. Re:I know its hypocritical but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a pratt

    4. Re:I know its hypocritical but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no "energy crisis" if you stop pretending like nuclear isn't a viable option. Problem solved. Your welcome.

      There is no energy crisis, that was invented by Enron.

      FTFY

    5. Re: I know its hypocritical but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is a solved problem. Implementation and political acceptance is left as an exercise for the reader.

    6. Re:I know its hypocritical but... by Mr.+Shotgun · · Score: 1

      I wasn't angry about Tamagochi until I heard about some asshole spending his free time on this instead of solving the global energy crisis.

      Translation:"I am angry this guy spent his free time on something he was interested in instead of something that is important to me!"

      If you're going to be a dickbag and complain about how other people spend their free time at least own up to it instead of blaming Tamagochi.

      --
      Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the (supposed) good of its victims may be the most oppressive
    7. Re:I know its hypocritical but... by MightyDrunken · · Score: 1

      Until some fool created infinite tamagochi and drained the entire Universe of all energy.

      --
      The most dangerous drug
    8. Re:I know its hypocritical but... by Mr.+Shotgun · · Score: 2

      Until some fool created infinite tamagochi and drained the entire Universe of all energy.

      The Infinite Tamagochi fed and drained the old universe of all energy. But then the Infinite Tamagochi had to poop and thus the universe was created anew.

      I think you just created an idea for a new religion.

      --
      Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the (supposed) good of its victims may be the most oppressive
  11. How to get on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take a series of catch words and chain them together. For extra benefit try all permutations, one will most likely get past the firehose and make it on the main site. Try to sound cool. Of course this doesn't stop you being a moron but hey a moron on /. Is better than nothing, right?! right.

    1. Re:How to get on /. by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      Take a series of catch words and chain them together. For extra benefit try all permutations, one will most likely get past the firehose and make it on the main site. Try to sound cool.

      You've cracked the code on how to get a story to the front page: buzzwords, "sounding cool", plus some minor association with "technical stuff".

      For those of you who need help, here are some starter words:

      virtual
      STEM
      infinite
      malware
      singularity
      IoT

      --
      Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
    2. Re:How to get on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why no "bitcoin"?

      Seriously bro, if we virtualize each node in the IoT we'll have an infinite amount of processing power to bring about the singularity. What better way to get today's kids, particularly the penis-challenged and hyper-pigmented ones, interested in STEM instead of wasting their efforts on bitcoin stealing malware?

  12. Wow what a genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > This included developing AI to keep them happy, and developing a protocol to emulate their IR interactions.

    hey wow. Well done. This dude really gets it.

    Seriously who is impressed by this?

    1. Re:Wow what a genius by zAPPzAPP · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Here, over here! I am Impressed by this.

      You know how it is soo difficult to find a good idea for your hobby programing project?

      This guy has ideas man. I am so envious. He knows how to waste time for good.

    2. Re: Wow what a genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh ideas is the problem? I have ideas on end. My problem is time and/or money.

  13. Pretty sure we already know where this leads... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds like the early days of the Digital World from Digimon...should be interesting to see how this all plays out.

    1. Re:Pretty sure we already know where this leads... by blackiner · · Score: 1

      Now we just need to add an evolution feature for the tamagochis.

  14. Take the BLUE pill! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?

  15. Infinite? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    "...he had built an infinite network..."

    He keeps using that word...I do not think that he thinks that word means the same thing as what I think that word means.

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    Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
    1. Re:Infinite? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      If you're going to do a quote, please do it properly.

    2. Re: Infinite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fight for yer bitcoins?

    3. Re: Infinite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fight for yer bitcoins?

      Dey took our coinzzzzzz!!!

      Dey too or coinnnzzzz

    4. Re:Infinite? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      If you're going to do a quote, please do it properly.

      If you're going to scold someone, please do it properly.

      --
      Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
  16. is submitter 3 years old??? by sribe · · Score: 1

    Infinite? On a machine/network with finite memory, CPU, and storage? You know what? I think not, duh. So I actually went to the article. The number he demonstrated was 13. So, how old do you typically have to be before you can count past 13???

    1. Re:is submitter 3 years old??? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      So, how old do you typically have to be before you can count past 13???

      If he can't count above 13 now, chances he never will no matter how old he gets.

      But "13" is close to "infinite", right? I mean, it's gotta be at least 90% of the way there, isn't it?

      --
      Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
    2. Re:is submitter 3 years old??? by sribe · · Score: 1

      If he can't count above 13 now, chances he never will no matter how old he gets.

      Excellent point.

  17. What about Furbies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anybody remember them? I got one, it totally got ignored.

    Poor thing.

  18. Ummmmmmmmm by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    "....and will surely spark legions of other Tamagochi Matrices."

    Oh yes, surely. Surely it will.

    --
    Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
  19. Imagine a Beowulf cluster of ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... oh, nevermind.

  20. Coren22's "APKolypse"... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes

    "I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

    ---

    "I guess we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    60++ reputable sources say different:

    64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ---

    "MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.

    ---

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I literally say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.

    ---

    "privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else can I programmatically update hosts?

    "requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it - hosts needs it vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015

    What others like Dog-Cow (old acc't. not a new sockpuppet from you) thinks of your signatures on me

    ... apk

  21. Coren22's "APKolypse"... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ---

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I literally say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.

  22. Coren22's "APKolypse"... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes

    "I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

    ---

    "I guess we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    60++ reputable sources say different:

    64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ---

    "MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.

    ---

    "privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else can I programmatically update hosts?

    "requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it - hosts needs it vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.

    ---

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I literally say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015

    What others like Dog-Cow (old acc't. not a new sockpuppet from you) thinks of your signatures about me

    ... apk

  23. Re:Coren22's "APKolypse" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    None stupider than Coren22! Apk proved it here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... your ac reply proves you downmodded it to try hide it. Coren22's butthurt fag signature does the rest.

  24. Coren22 impersonation "APKolypse" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    "privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else programmatically update it?

    "requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.

    ---

    "secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes

    "yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

    ---

    "we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    60++ reputable sources say different:

    64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ---

    "MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.

    ---

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015

    Dog-Cow's (old acc't. no new sockpuppet from you) thoughts of your signatures about me

    ... apk

  25. Coren22's impersonation "APKolypse" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    "privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else programmatically update it?

    "requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.

    ---

    "secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes

    "yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

    ---

    "we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    60++ reputable sources say different:

    64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

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    "MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.

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    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015

    Dog-Cow's (old acc't. no new sockpuppet from you) thoughts of your signatures about me

    ... apk