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Take a Visual Tour of CyberKnife Radiosurgery (jeffreifman.com)

reifman writes: On June 3rd, I had brain surgery to treat a benign tumor called a meningioma. I knew ahead of time that the surgeon wouldn't be able to remove the entire tumor – its geography extended from my cavernous sinus to the pituitary gland to the left hemisphere of the brain and to my brain stem. I also needed CyberKnife radiation therapy to attempt to mutate the remaining tumor's DNA to stop its growth. Come meet Lenore, my robotic radiosurgeon.

36 comments

  1. Looks ok. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I read your blog, and it looks like they got it okay - it's scary, but you did it. Congratulations.

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  2. Surgeon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Lenore would be a badass name for a sexbot.

    1. Re:Surgeon? by someone1234 · · Score: 0

      You wouldn't want it to diagnose your testicles as tumor, would you?

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  3. Amazing view of modern technology by mykepredko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Jeff,

    Thank you for the description of your treatment and the equipment that was used. It's amazing where medical technology has come to and the hope that it can provide.

    Last year, my son was treated for stage three non-Hodgkin s lymphoma with just chemotherapy and (thankfully) no need for surgery.

    Good luck and I hope for complete remission.

    1. Re:Amazing view of modern technology by Technician · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My wife had that but for anal canal cancer. I recognized the machine and steel door. Amazing surgery. A year later there is no sign of the tumor. Unfortunately she is in radiation and chemo again for tumors on her lymph glands in her chest. I'm hoping they get it and it doesn't spread. Chemo has been rough.

      I hope after you get your treatments completed that there is no new ones elsewhere. Be sure to keep up on the follow up appointments. Good luck.

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    2. Re:Amazing view of modern technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Score:5, Funny!?

    3. Re:Amazing view of modern technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      can you fuck her in any of her three new assholes created by radiation burns?

    4. Re:Amazing view of modern technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bitch is doomed, mate. and with anal off the table, you are better off w/o her. buy a plot now, she ainta gonna make it a year.

    5. Re:Amazing view of modern technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow did you jam yer prick in a fuggin' ASS TUMOR mate?

  4. If it makes surgery safer and cheaper... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    the Republicans will never let us have it.

    1. Re:If it makes surgery safer and cheaper... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      the Republicans will never let us have it.

      They'd say it is cheaper and more effective to use a gun, 'cuz with a gun you can better defend yourself from tumors.

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    2. Re: If it makes surgery safer and cheaper... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right. Almost every week you hear about a promising new procedure or drug, but they never make it to the people.

    3. Re: If it makes surgery safer and cheaper... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are truly the party of death.

    4. Re: If it makes surgery safer and cheaper... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For their kind, profit is more important than people.

    5. Re:If it makes surgery safer and cheaper... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      It's just sexconker. They forgot to post AC, again...
      http://science.slashdot.org/co...

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    6. Re:If it makes surgery safer and cheaper... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      "the Republicans will never let us have it."

      No, the Republicans will just make it ridiculously expensive. But if it involves radiation, it will be the Democrats who won't let us have it.

  5. Take a tour? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No thanks, cool tho

  6. Re:Reconstructing the mind at the quantum edge by rfengr · · Score: 0

    Oh buzz off Deepak Chopra.

  7. There is still time! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 0

    The machines are helping to save lives, for now. I suspect they are just biding their time until we give them legs before they turn on us. #TheEndIsNigh ;)

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  8. MRI guided fiber conducted laser thermal ablation by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

    MRI guided fiber conducted laser thermal ablation is also an option these days (just started gaining wider use in the last 2 years).

    It's a technique that can target small areas with great precision, not too good for massive or diffuse tumor growths, but it excels at "string of pearls" problems.

  9. Stray radiation by rl117 · · Score: 1

    Amazing machine and staff. Slightly worrying are the radiation spots on the CCD of his digital camera for the shots of the machine and the treatment room, which makes me wonder how much dosage the technicians who operate it pick up, and also how intense the beam is when the aperture is opened up.

    I can definitely sympathise with the fear of confinement. I had a head MRI a few weeks back, and it was in a small mobile scanner. While I'm not claustrophobic, it was definitely confining, and this process where you're directly restrained looks like it could be really terrifying if you can't deal with confinement.

    1. Re:Stray radiation by zenith1111 · · Score: 1

      As far as I know, those machines usually use linear accelerators to provide the radiation beams, that means the technicians don't get exposed when they are inside the treatment room when the machine is not operational or being serviced. The dots in the screen look like laser dots to me, they wouldn't have the machine turned on with the door open, and in that picture there are violet dots as well.

    2. Re:Stray radiation by rl117 · · Score: 1

      I thought they might be laser dots as well, but take a close look at all the pictures, and you can see purple random scattering on most of them to varying degrees, most intense on the ones with the machine in view. It's not the emission or reflection of light source(s) that I can see. Linear accelerators can apparently (just been reading up on it) also cause local activation of materials, though far less than proton and neutron beams, so it could potentially be recording very low level of decays from that.

    3. Re:Stray radiation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought they might be laser dots as well, but take a close look at all the pictures, and you can see purple random scattering on most of them to varying degrees, most intense on the ones with the machine in view. It's not the emission or reflection of light source(s) that I can see. Linear accelerators can apparently (just been reading up on it) also cause local activation of materials, though far less than proton and neutron beams, so it could potentially be recording very low level of decays from that.

      Interesting question. I came to the opposite conclusion from the same data: The dots are circular on the upper-right part of the ceiling, yet stretched/elongated on the upper/middle left portions of the ceiling, and really stretched/distorted on the upper-left of Lenore's body. As one might expect a circular beam pointed at a curved surface at a low angle of incidence.

      Moving up two pictures, there's at least one really bright spot reflecting off the top of a tower PC. The reflection appears to be cut off right at the point where the PC ends and thin air begins.

    4. Re:Stray radiation by lucien86 · · Score: 1

      It definitely doesn't look like radiation causing the dots. Looks like a diffraction laser grid. Radiation affecting cameras tends to look like coloured static covering the whole display - plus maybe vertical noise bars, picture tearing or distortion, or in video recordings picture breakup and instability..

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  10. Re:Reconstructing the mind at the quantum edge by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Hi, Roger! Does this mean you still think that strong AI will never be possible?

  11. Was the robot surgeon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...standing "on yon drear and rigid bier"?
    Silliness aside, the advances in this kind of technology are incredible. That said, the greatest advancement will be when we don't need that kind of equipment because what it treats simply doesn't exist any more. Not a near-future goal, obviously!

  12. Radiation by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Slightly worrying are the radiation spots on the CCD of his digital camera for the shots of the machine and the treatment room

    To me it looks like the laser grid used to position the device in place.

    The most tell-tale sign: the dots are a primary color (blue). There's no reason why why stray radiation would affect only the photo detecting pixel that happen to be behind one specific colour of the CCD's bayer filter.

    which makes me wonder how much dosage the technicians who operate it pick up,

    They work with the machine everyday, so indeed there could be some slight exposure risks over time.
    That's why everyone working in radiology and nuclear medicine must carry radio-dosimeters that help determine if some worker has been getting more radiation that should be allowed.
    So in practice, technician don't get too much radiation thanks to controls in place.

    and also how intense the beam is when the aperture is opened up.

    Not much actually.
    That's the whole idea behind the technique:

    The rays aren't very strong so they aren't very likely to cause random damage on their path.
    But, the treatment is designed in such way that all the rays end up going through the same point.
    And even if 1 single ray isn't a big deal, all the rays end-ing up at the same point have a cumuliative effect and a destructive effect on that point.
    That's what can be seen on the screen-shot of the computer interface:
    the software computes a treatment in such a way that all the delicate structures (like brain tissue) don't get much exposure, but that the tumor gets fired at over and over again from every possible angle and ends up getting quite a big dose from everywhere and that kills the tumor.

    this process where you're directly restrained looks like it could be really terrifying if you can't deal with confinement.

    Now that's the researcher in me talking:
    I do hope that over time, thanks to fast actuators and complex visual tracking, the robot would be able to follow the patient around, instead of need the patient firmly fixed.
    Such approach start to appear in other fields. Some of the robotic surgery machine (the one holding scalpel) are able to track heart motion.
    From the referential that the surgeon gets in the 3D display, the heart seems immobile.
    But not because the heart is stoped (as in other surgery with extra-corporeal circulation bypass), but because the whole robot (including effectors and camera) are moving back and forth in the same rythme as the heart.

    A radiotherapy robot is heavy, so its much more complicated (and would require big processing power ton constantly be able to determin if the current angle in sight is sage or not). But maybe some day someone will find a solution.

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  13. Laser by DrYak · · Score: 1

    The dots in the screen look like laser dots to me,

    That's what I think too.

    Most of the rays used in radiology and nuclear medecins are invisible to the human eye. Therefore, so the human operator can see what they are aiming the device at, most devices tend to use laser grid for the positionning steps.
    (e.g.: to line up the mask with the device)

    That would also explain why all the dots are the same primary colours (unlikely if they where due to stray radiation).

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  14. Human touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for sharing, Jeff. Having just started RT myself, I know what it feels like to "wear" the mask and ironically that is what keeps me awake at night, not the treatment itself. The mask doesn't look like a big deal, but indeed when you're lying there all by yourself, it's a completely different story. Thirty minutes per session is a looong time. Well done! (Mine are 10 minutes, but I have to go 30 times. I'll either be a zen master or completely messed up by the end.)

    I wonder what can be done to make you feel more comfortable when you're alone. As you mentioned, physical contact makes all the difference, thus maybe a "realistic" physical robot that is remote controlled by a human (e.g., girlfriend)? I bet that just having a cat sit on your chest that you can pet would make a huge difference too. We need to start engineering radiation resistant cats (or just stick them in a leaden box, then they can't escape either).

    Good luck with everything!

  15. Re:Reconstructing the mind at the quantum edge by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    No, consciousness is an emergent by-product of organic brains.

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  16. Re:Reconstructing the mind at the quantum edge by lucien86 · · Score: 1

    Consciousness is a dynamic synthesis of a totality information matrix based on the brains neural network, a type of universal machine or Turing Machine. Since the brain at its atomic scale foundation is an ordered quantum machine you are both actually right.. The quantum woo does not make building a working strong AI impossible, but it is a very hard problem. - I know because I've been working on building one since 1990..

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